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Originally posted to Comics on Thu Jan 17, 2013 at 02:50 PM PST.

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  •  Excellent work. WE should put even more pressure (4+ / 0-)
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    oceanview, Mary Mike, Helpless, Womantrust

    Harry Reid to not water down reform.

    Move Single Payer Forward? Join 18,000 Doctors of PNHP and 185,000 member National Nurses United

    by divineorder on Thu Jan 17, 2013 at 03:01:27 PM PST

  •  Just signed to (0+ / 0-)

      ...Act Blue?  petition.

    •  I am referring to the petition at the (0+ / 0-)

       end of Joan Mc Carter's front page story, a few stories down thread, entitled, Reid considering more modest filibuster reform plan. Link to petition at end of said diary, for those interested.  

  •  we are wrong (2+ / 0-)
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    HugoDog, Brown Thrasher

    The Rs will obstruct everything but appointments in the House--what a stupid time to change the rules in the Senate.  There will come a time when the sane ones will be in the minority in the House and Senate--and will need to filibuster.  If timing is everything, we missed the boat.

    Apres Bush, le deluge.

    by melvynny on Thu Jan 17, 2013 at 03:06:40 PM PST

  •  Buster Makes Me Feel Bad (0+ / 0-)

    ... just a nod to Ray Parker Jr. ("Ghostbusters") theme.

    "And once again, the forces of niceness and goodness have triumphed over the forces of evil and rottenness." --Maxwell Smart

    by emobile on Thu Jan 17, 2013 at 03:07:04 PM PST

  •  The answer is no. Looks like Reid and Dem Senate (1+ / 0-)
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    Brown Thrasher

    do not have the stomach to show him the door.

  •  oh if only we had (5+ / 0-)

    majority control of the senate we could kill the filibuster!

    But at least it helped the dems stop bush's right wing SC nominees, eh?

    At least it stopped the odious Patriot Act eh?

    At least it stopped the Iraqi debacle, eh?

    At least it stopped retroactive immunity for telecomms, eh?

    At least it stopped Free Trade Job Outsourcing, eh?

    Oh wait.  It did none of those things, did it?

    But it sure as hell stopped the Public Option, didn't it?

    If I didn't know better, I'd think this were a Kabuki Play.

    The excuses for Obama's behavior have long since passed the point of predictability neccessary to qualify as an absurd production of Kabuki Theater.

    by Johnathan Ivan on Thu Jan 17, 2013 at 04:03:44 PM PST

    •  Milquetoast Harry doesn't want effective reform (1+ / 0-)
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      Then inaction would be laid at his feet.

      The "painless" filibuster is anything but.  With Republicans' majority in the House, it gives them control of both the house and Senate.  Imagine if they carry through to change the way electoral votes are allocated in swing states and a Republican is elected in 2016.  Total control of the Federal government from a minority of votes.

      Even Democrats can be asses. Look at Rahm Emanuel.

      by Helpless on Thu Jan 17, 2013 at 05:19:38 PM PST

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  •  Filibuster (d. 1975); Cloture Vote (1975-) (0+ / 0-)

    I'll tip the jar, though I humbly beg to differ on the message.

    In truth, the filibuster has not existed since the Senate changed its rules in 1975, giving birth to the lazier & politically-cheaper cloture vote in its place — & eventually setting the stage for the modern era in which Democrats have to whip 60 votes to go to the lavatory.

    The problem with the Senate lies more in the ease of obstruction rather than obstruction in itself. Many of us at Daily Kos & elsewhere can remember numerous bills — many backed by "bipartisan coalitions", in fact — which absolutely deserved to be publically blocked because they contained horrid, un-American give-aways to 1%er lobbyists at our expense (SOPA/PIPA, anyone?) — & would have sailed right through on a simple majority vote. After all, we're human beings, not hamsters; we can see clearly that DC is not necessarily making forward progress just because its wheels keep turning.

    I argue, then, that we need the filibuster back — specifically, the pre-1975 requirement that a Senator hold the floor, bar the door, & stop all business until he either yields the podium or gets voted back into his seat by 60 of his colleagues (or collapses onto the floor from exhaustion — shouts of "Hallelujah" being entirely optional).

    Remember Savita Halappanavar!

    by Brown Thrasher on Thu Jan 17, 2013 at 06:19:58 PM PST

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