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Paul Krugman at The New York Times in The Big Deal offers some advice for progressives:

F.D.R. had his New Deal; well, Mr. Obama has his Big Deal. He hasn’t delivered everything his supporters wanted, and at times the survival of his achievements seemed very much in doubt. But if progressives look at where we are as the second term begins, they’ll find grounds for a lot of (qualified) satisfaction.[...]

Now, none of what I’ve just said should be taken as grounds for progressive complacency. The plutocrats may have lost a round, but their wealth and the influence it gives them in a money-driven political system remain. Meanwhile, the deficit scolds (largely financed by those same plutocrats) are still trying to bully Mr. Obama into slashing social programs.

So the story is far from over. Still, maybe progressives — an ever-worried group — might want to take a brief break from anxiety and savor their real, if limited, victories.

Joe Stiglitz at The New York Times laments that Inequality Is Holding Back the Recovery:
There are all kinds of excuses for inequality. Some say it’s beyond our control, pointing to market forces like globalization, trade liberalization, the technological revolution, the “rise of the rest.” Others assert that doing anything about it would make us all worse off, by stifling our already sputtering economic engine. These are self-serving, ignorant falsehoods.

Market forces don’t exist in a vacuum — we shape them.

Marc Thiessen at the Washington Post proves in Republicans should start acting like Obama that he really does live in an alternate universe:
Instead of using Obama’s Chicago-style, brass-knuckle approach, too many Republicans are wringing their hands today, looking for ways to moderate their approach in response to Obama’s victories.
John Nichols at The Nation writes This President Can—and Must—Claim a Mandate to Govern:
Obama’s mandate extends beyond himself. His party has increased its Senate majority and Democrats earned 1.4 million more votes in House races than Republicans. Gerrymandering and money kept Republican control of the House, but that opposition party is in such disarray that the president really does have an opening to make something of his mandate

Obama must seize that opportunity as an essential part of making the case for bold executive orders and a bold legislative agenda that will bring not just the hope but the change he promised in what now seems like a very distant 2008 campaign. The president has in the transition period since the 2012 election displayed a willingness to push harder, to go bigger, and it has yielded significant progress not just on gun-safety issues but in the long struggle against the Republican austerity agenda that makes a diety of deregulating away consumer and environmental protections, tearing the social-safety net and cutting taxes for wealthy campaign donors.

Peggy Noonan at The Wall Street Journal once again lays down her perfectly upside-down perspective in His Terms Are Always Hostile Ones:
A president approaching that day will necessarily be, in his spirit, benign, embracing—unifying.

So here is what is utterly remarkable: President Obama has been using the days and weeks leading up to his inauguration to show the depth of his disdain for the leaders of the other major party and, by inference, that party's voters, which is to say more or less half the country. He has been spending his time alienating instead of summoning. It has left the political air more sour and estranged.

As a presidential style this is something strange and new. That has to be said again: It is new, and does not augur well.

What was remarkable about the president's news conference Monday is that he didn't seem to think he had to mask his partisan rancor or be large-spirited. He bristled with unashamed hostility for Republicans on the Hill.

Danny Goldberg at Alternet explains why Criticizing 'Zero Dark Thirty' Is Not an Assault on Free Expression:
As a long-time defender of the rights of artists -- including controversial ones -- I find it intellectually dishonest for champions of Zero Dark Thirty to pretend that serious criticism of the film amounts to an assault on free expression.

Responding to public statements by actors Ed Asner, Martin Sheen and David Clennon urging Academy members to refrain from voting for Zero Dark Thirty, Columbia Pictures co-chairman Amy Pascal said "to punish an artist's right of expression is abhorrent."

Bhaskar Sunkara at In These Times explores the arc of blazed by some young pundits in For policy wonks, politics no longer computes:
Once upon a time, hope was scarce and darkness everywhere. People looked for heroes. During the worst years of the Bush administration, we found them. They weren’t big or brawny, but they had heart. A bunch of nerdy kids blogging about politics were here to save the day.

Matthew Yglesias, Ezra Klein and their companions were fearless—but, beyond that, analytical. They knew how to use graphs and the Internet, bringing an earnest quantitative approach that would make liberals the Very Serious People of the Digital Age. Even the media establishment had nice things to say about our protagonists. [...]

But at some point, Klein and company stopped being liberals. They even stopped being human. The singularity—a technological superintelligence—was upon us. The wonks had become robots, ready to force enlightenment down our partisan throats.

Linda Gordon at The Progressive works at Piercing the Myths about Women and Guns.

Laura Flanders at The Guardian writes on the anniversary of Martin Luther King Jr.'s birth and the year that marks the 50th anniversary of his "I have a dream" speech and the 150th anniversary of the Emancipation Proclamation At Obama's second inauguration, how emancipated are we really?

Dr King and his colleagues knew that change would come not from presidents but from movements. Presidents might move, but movements make them do it. Only movements have the emancipating power to make strength out of numbers, even numbers of the weak.

The March on Washington married a demand for freedom with a demand for jobs. Listen to how little the moneyed media give the march its complete name: the March on Washington for Freedom and Jobs.

We could do with another march, but more importantly, another movement with equal punch. People like to say freedom isn't free. But neither is emancipation: it costs the status quo. Emancipating a former slave state like ours takes a whole lot more than a declaration. We're not there yet.

Debra Saunders at San Francisco Chronicle explains how Obama's promise could send you to prison over marijuana.

The Editorial Board of the Miami Herald writes Common sense on gun madness:

Mr. Obama and gun-control advocates will need overwhelming public support to break the stranglehold of the NRA and its allies on Capitol Hill, but history would not forgive a president who shirnks from this fight. Americans are tired of madmen with guns turning theaters, schools and even places of worship into shooting ranges. It’s past time to act.
Leonard Pitts Jr. at the Miami Herald has some nice things to say about No Labels in A fix for poisonous politics:
Understand: Our politics are not simply polarized, they are poisonous. Left has seceded from right, fact has seceded from media, compromise has seceded from negotiation, pragmatism has seceded from legislation. We play a zero sum game where party trumps country, reason is treason and there is an evident belief that he who yells the stupidest thing in the loudest voice, wins.

This state of affairs exists because voters have allowed it to exist, because they reward it with big ratings on television and big numbers at the polls. But there is a price tag for this. Our government is a train wreck.

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    •  So, what part of Peggy's (0+ / 0-)

      piece do you disagree with?

      Are you saying you don't thing President Obama has been partisan and openly confrontational with the GOP?

      A lot of folks around here have noticed the same thing and cheered him for it.

      •  I disagree with her insinuation (23+ / 0-)

        that partisanship and confrontation toward  a party hell-bent on destroying Obama's presidency and the economic well-being of 99% of the population is a bad thing.  The president spent much of his time and political capital in his first term attempting bi-partisanship and being non-confrontational, all for naught.

        "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

        by SueDe on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 05:16:08 AM PST

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        •  Nooner's just trollin' (2+ / 0-)
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          Minnesota Deb, zinger99

          No one can really think that Obama just hasn't given enough of a fair shake to the ideas of tanking the world economy by defaulting and turning schools into the wild west.    

          •  Rachel's Piece On "Trolling" (1+ / 0-)
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            Usually I can agree with her but trolling (by TRMS's defn.) is saying something just to get attention but I think the right, deep down in their poisonous, shriveled up hearts thinks these things to be true, at least on some level.

            They really, really believe this mean spirited shit.

            Time is an enormous, long river, and I’m standing in it, just as you’re standing in it. My elders are the tributaries, and everything they thought and every struggle they went through & everything they gave their lives to flows down to me-Utah Phillips

            by TerryDarc on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 10:27:49 AM PST

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            •  Well, sure (0+ / 0-)

              Can you blame them? The country has been moving rightward, slowly or quickly, on the economic spectrum, since 1980. (Much of the social spectrum too, though there has been real progress gained there, too. But women's rights have been eroded, not just abortion-wise but even just respect-wise; racial inequality is getting worse again, and we are jailing more and more minorities for things we don't jail white people for; etc.)

              The only times when it hasn't moved right steadily were some parts of Clinton's presidency (though we still ended that with a less progressive country than we started it with) and some parts of Obama's presidency. And Obama's had some victories (by which I mean 'has managed to stop the country from getting more conservative'. not 'has managed to make the country more progressive') lately.

              If you saw the last 30 years as a natural progression of 'Republicans move right, Democrats move right', rinse, repeat, and 'cooperation' and 'compromise' was defined for you as 'Democrats finding the new center and flocking to it', wouldn't you be mad when the Democrats didn't do that on schedule?

      •  He is being confrontational in this sense (7+ / 0-)

        Her idea of being non-confrontational is to let the GOP majority in one house of Congress take over running the country.

        He is not being partisan. His goals are shared by a solid majority of Democrats and, importantly, independents, and some Republicans.

        And she goes off the rails also by saying that this is something new.  So no other President has ever admonished Congress, or the other party in this way? She is a professional speechwriter, and she says this?

        And you agree?

        "The only thing we have to fear - is fear itself." - Franklin Delano Roosevelt

        by orrg1 on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 05:53:40 AM PST

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        •  I don't agree (0+ / 0-)

          I do question the wisdom of it as a tactic, however.

          The President, apparently, feels he has a mandate and wants to come out guns blazing in his second term.

          And that is a perfectly valid tactic.

          He has at least 3 major negotiations coming up, none of which will move without either a: complete capitulation on the part of the GOP or b: co-operation from them.

          The GOP House leadership is already taking a hit from their base on the fiscal cliff and are being pressured to dig their heels in on spending cuts.  So, option A is off the table.

          At some point the President will need cooperation.  The GOP will pass a 90 day debt limit extension and they will likely a budget battle as their hill to die on.

          So, do you get that cooperation by coming on strong?  Apparently the White House thinks so.  I, quite frankly, don't know.  We'll see.  My gut tells me it could backfire.

          And I think it is a perfectly legitimate topic for the pundit class to ponder on..

          •  And you think his playing nice will win (3+ / 0-)
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            cooperation from the GOP?  When he offers a plan from THEIR playbook, they turn it down, unanimously.  When he offers a compromise on their terms, they turn it down.

            The President is a marked man of the GOP crazies.  Have you heard one GOP leader tell the nutcases to dial down the rhetoric about killing the President?  

            Bullies only respond to bullying...and the death of the Hastert rule proves it.

            If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich. John F. Kennedy ( inaugural address, January 20, 1961)

            by Outraged Mom on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 07:32:04 AM PST

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          •  oy. he has tried your way for 4 years now; (3+ / 0-)

            Republicans, however, met (on Inaugeration Day!) 4 years ago and made the commitment to NOT work with the President.
            I don't think their commitment has changed, but I am sure glad that he is standing up to them.

          •  And who said it wasn't. But when pundit... (1+ / 0-)
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            ...pontificate they should expect the same kind of pushback most of encounter here when we take a position on something unless you think we should bask in her "wisdom." She totally ignores the Republican obstructionism in that piece of hers, which is paragraph after paragraph devoted to breaking wind.

            Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

            by Meteor Blades on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 11:12:35 AM PST

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      •  I disagree with her disingenuous posturing, as (12+ / 0-)

        though the GOP hadn't actively been showing the President disdain for four years.  As though the last four years were supposed to magically disappear with fairy dust during the last four weeks.

        That's one more thing to add to my long list of small problems. --my son, age 10

        by concernedamerican on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 05:56:14 AM PST

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      •  How can you say (3+ / 0-)
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        Minnesota Deb, zinger99, Laconic Lib

        the other party (repubs) are

        more or less then half the voters.
        ?

        They are not more then half the voters- Obama won 51-47. Does she not understand Obama won the election?

        Faced with the likes of Boehner and McConnell, Obama has been more then generous.

        Elections do have consequences. Maybe the repubs need to realize that for once and for all.

        •  Not only that but they "lost" in the House (2+ / 0-)
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          They were outpolled in all Congressional races by 1.5 million votes. Just the ridiculous scotchtaped districts were aligned to keep them in office.
          Please, everyone, let's just ignore Peggy Noon AND Peggy Noonan. She has been scratching this same pathetic delusional garbage since before Reagan.

    •  Peggy Noon? Should be Peggy Midnight, as she is (8+ / 0-)

      in the dark, and clueless most of the time.

    •  Interesting fact (0+ / 0-)

      In the Irish music community (a rather tight-knit and insular group), the phrase 'totally Noonaned' is slang for 'so drunk that you show up to the wrong venue for your concert, which is okay because you also showed up on the wrong day'. However, the gentleman who this slang was invented for has largely stopped this self-destructive behavior.

      I move that we change the target to Peggy. It's pretty clear that the stuff she writes must be the product of a similar quantity of alcohol.

  •  The singularity-a technological superintelligence (2+ / 0-)
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    judyms9, skillet

    I want 1 less Tiny Coffin, Why Don't You? Support The President's Gun Violence Plan.

    by JML9999 on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 04:47:24 AM PST

  •  Thank you for the roundup, MB! (9+ / 0-)

    Thanks for reading some of the crazies so we don't have to.  I like Leonard Pitts, Jr., but I'm tired of being blamed for what's on TV.  I don't choose it.  We've just started watching Al Jazeera for the nightly news because we're so sick of the trivia on the network news.

    When are the administration policy wonks going to start listening to Krugman?

    "Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

    by Diana in NoVa on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 04:49:05 AM PST

  •  Regarding Leonard Pitts' piece, the generosity (8+ / 0-)

    of spirit on the left is the only thing to explain this embrace of an escape hatch fashioned by the rightwing in case their mobs decide to turn on the extremist screechers.  The left must pull hard left to correct the ship of state.  Running to the middle will most certainly capsize us.

    Building a better America with activism, cooperation, ingenuity and snacks.

    by judyms9 on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 04:51:30 AM PST

    •  No Labels Version 1.0 (1+ / 0-)
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      spent something like $8 million and what do they have to show for it? Not one candidate, not one electoral victory, and basically no support.
      I think it was doomed from the start:

      Even if they did have something to lose, signing onto "No Labels" is risk-free. The group's mission statement is filled with the bland pablum of political campaigns. It's the kind of stuff that's so obvious, no one would ever disagree. "Americans are entitled to a government and a political system that works—driven by shared purpose and common sense." Unlike all those groups that prefer a political system that doesn't work.
      "Americans want a government that empowers people with the tools for success … provided that it does so in a fiscally prudent way." Me, I'm for spending wads of money on failure. "America must be strong and safe, ready and able to protect itself in a world of multiple dangers and uncertainties." That is going to upset their rival group, Americans Against Strength, Safety, Readiness, and Ability To Protect Ourselves.
      http://www.slate.com/...

      “We are not a nation that says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says ‘out of many, we are one.’” -Barack Obama

      by skohayes on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 06:15:02 AM PST

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  •  Actually, O has the Big Ff'ing Deal. (2+ / 0-)
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    a2nite, DefendOurConstitution

    You have exactly 10 seconds to change that look of disgusting pity into one of enormous respect!

    by Cartoon Peril on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 04:54:26 AM PST

  •  Thoughts on an Inaugural Day (3+ / 0-)

    I sit in my local Starbucks with my I-Pad.

    I reflect

    I begin writing

    This is the result which I invite you to read

    Peace

    "We didn't set out to save the world; we set out to wonder how other people are doing and to reflect on how our actions affect other people's hearts." - Pema Chodron

    by teacherken on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 04:56:16 AM PST

  •  Memo to Pegs (22+ / 0-)

    Ms. Noonan, the Prez treats the leaders of the other party with disdain because they have richly earned his (and America's) disdain.  You make it seem that they have been innocent and benign players in the dysfunction of government.  That seems to be the basis for making such an observation -- a basis that is completely false. So, no need to finish reading your pabulum.

    Sincerely,

    Pengs

      •  Erick Son of Erick (2+ / 0-)
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        skillet, bmcphail

        trying to be reasonable (a little late for that), and pissing off his minions.

        I do believe Eric is drinking the kook aide this president is set to destroy this country! You people had better wake up!

        “We are not a nation that says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says ‘out of many, we are one.’” -Barack Obama

        by skohayes on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 05:37:10 AM PST

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        •  Like it or not.....four more years Erick.....so... (1+ / 0-)
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          skohayes

          whatcha wanna do?

        •  I went and read the editorial and all comments (1+ / 0-)
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          skohayes

          Fascinating, totally fascinating. I actually found it an enlightening picture of the current state of the right.

          Some of them are recognizing how extreme parts of their party has become. Others exhibit that uncanny up-is-down projectionism so characteristic of the tea party and exclusive viewers of Fox News in general.

          One poster in particular was asking Eric what he thinks about the Birchers being driven out of the party. Doesn't he know that the Tea Party is in large part financed and run by Birchers?

          We are the principled ones, remember? We don't get to use the black hats' tricks even when it would benefit us. Political Compass: -6.88, -6.41

          by bmcphail on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 10:25:56 AM PST

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      •  yeah but she probably reads the comments posted (0+ / 0-)

        to that piece.... scary.

        If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich. John F. Kennedy ( inaugural address, January 20, 1961)

        by Outraged Mom on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 07:35:25 AM PST

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    •  Rec'd for being (1+ / 0-)
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      Laconic Lib

      RIGHT ON!

      "I'm totally pro-choice in the matter of abortion. But of course I'm also so radically pro-life that I think every person from birth onward must have full and affordable access to healthcare." - Gail Collins

      by gritsngumbo on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 07:18:04 AM PST

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  •  That's not really Noonan (9+ / 0-)

    She was replaced by an AI column generator last year.

    Toto, I've a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore

    by Minerva on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 05:01:36 AM PST

  •  Madmen with guns... (8+ / 0-)

    I'm sure it won't hit the media, but a 15 year old in New Mexico picked up dad's semiautomatic and wiped out the whole family last night before killing himself. I'm sure Dad was bragging about that semi and his right to have it last week.

    •  It was probably the last thing that went (3+ / 0-)

      through is mind.......

      I want 1 less Tiny Coffin, Why Don't You? Support The President's Gun Violence Plan.

      by JML9999 on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 05:06:36 AM PST

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    •  How many more children/families must we continue (6+ / 0-)

      sacrificing, year after year, at the altar of the NRA's gun Cult before we take back our Government and get Congress to pass sensible firearm regulations like FULL background check on EVERY sale/transfer, licensing and registration?

      Sure, those things - even when implemented a few months/years from now - will have very little effect short term and the carnage will continue, but after a few years of having those regulations in placed we will see reductions in the carnage from keeping guns away from (some, not all) people that should not have their hands on a firearm. This will happen in a few ways:

      1. Registration (or some tracking mechanism so that the provenance of every gun can be traced) will make gun owners much less likely to sell guns to criminals, which is done with impunity since private sales are not regulated and this results in many straw purchases that get "laundered" into illegal guns.  Many people that claim their guns were stolen probably just sold them to one of the dealers that import them into states with strict gun regulations and supply criminals.  Knowing that the gun can be traced back to you, will make an owner think twice before selling it to unscrupulous dealers.

      2. Fewer guns will end up in the hands of violent felons that, in spite of being banned from purchasing firearms, still get them. teacherken had a diary on one such example a couple of days ago.

      3. People that are licensed/trained will eventually start keeping firearms secured and out of the reach of so many young people that shouldn't have access to them, and yet they do (as in this tragedy or in the carnage in Newtown).

      Then they came for me - and by that time there was nobody left to speak up.

      by DefendOurConstitution on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 05:42:19 AM PST

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  •  'His terms are always hostile ones'......so let's (8+ / 0-)

    impeach him.

  •  It's so funny (13+ / 0-)

    listening to Joe "I was in Congress" Scarborough shaming the divisiveness in our politics - and the next breath he goes on to criticize President Obama for his official swearing-in yesterday.
    It went something like this:
    Joe: The President looked at his daughter yesterday after he was sworn in and said "I did it" - no Mr. President, you should have said "we did it" - it's not all about you. How many times will he say I in his speech, huh? Huh? Doris Kearns Goodwin, please weigh in.
    Seems to me it was a little 'you didn't screw up the words dad' exchange between PO and his daughter. Psst Joe, you are part of the problem.

    I'm pretty tired of being told what I care about.

    by hulibow on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 05:17:31 AM PST

  •  Anyone who gets Noonan's knickers that twisted up (9+ / 0-)

    has got to be doing something right.  She outdid herself in that column.  Heavy hand with the puckery sour, Peg.  Ever hear of lemonade?  It's what you do when life brings you lemons.  Add some sugar for sweetness though.

    "Democracy is a life; and involves continual struggle." ---'Fighting Bob' LaFollette

    by leftreborn on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 05:18:10 AM PST

  •  Speaking of pundits, did anyone see This Week (8+ / 0-)

    yesterday? Rick Santorum was recycled to the round table.  The guests are getting worse on that show.  Why is Greta Van Sustern even invited to the round table?  When I hear her talk about foreign policy, I Have to laugh.  When did she become an expert.  And Santorum should never be see in the daylight again.  Cokie Roberts? incredibly wrong often.
    Why does George invite these washouts?

    Research Shows Poverty Creates the Biggest Achievement Gap.

    by Desert Rose on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 05:21:34 AM PST

  •  On Morning Joe this morning, (4+ / 0-)
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    the assembled blowhards are discussing Obama's 2nd term agenda:  immigration, guns, debt.  Still no mention of "jobs, jobs, jobs."  In fact, I haven't heard the word "jobs" uttered once, except in the context of the unemployment numbers and what a shame they're so high.

    "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

    by SueDe on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 05:22:40 AM PST

  •  They're Not Robots (2+ / 0-)
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    skohayes, tb mare

    Bhaskar Sunkara says:

    A bunch of nerdy kids blogging about politics were here to save the day.
    [...]

    But at some point, Klein and company stopped being liberals. They even stopped being human. The singularity—a technological superintelligence—was upon us. The wonks had become robots, ready to force enlightenment down our partisan throats.

    No, a bunch of nerdy kids blogging politics weren't here "to save the day". They were here to tell us facts:

    "At this point in my life, I don’t really think of myself as a liberal. That’s not the project I’m part of, which is to let the facts take me where they do." This statement isn’t unusual. It reflects a new center-left common sense—liberals against politics and democratic messiness. Liberals, in the interest of humanity, against humanity.

    That's not a "center-left common sense". It is fact, which is non-partisan. Where the facts take us is far more "messy" than mere politics, especially the ideological partisan that runs roughshod over reality it strains to define instead of accommodating it. Reality is messy, which is the entire reason we create ideologies: to simplify it into human terms we can accept and control as ours. It's not "common sense", either: it's a data driven product of "earnest quantitative approach" from "nerdy kids", which is far from what even liberals or much more dreadfully Conservatives have delivered for decades.

    They're not "robots". That's just a liberal (Sunkara) attacking intelligence that doesnt' always agree with his ideology. We're far more used to Conservatives attacking people smart enough to explain something that makes Conservatism look bad. Sunkara demonstrates how liberals do it: not with the resort to irrational religion Conservatives reflexively deploy. But with the turn to an undefined "humanism" railing against "robots" who insist on telling us facts because of reasons.

    Sunkara is mad because these "robots" are right, but don't agree with him or do it his way. They don't persuade by chanting a label like "liberal". But probablty worst of all, they are popular and influential (as Sunkara reviews their growing resumes) in ways that Sunkara (who? I never heard of him before today) is not.

    So this nobody punches the nerds. I suppose if he'd given actual facts in his attack instead of just "they're not liberals" he'd have been guilty of "forcing enlightenment down our non-partisan throats".

    Anti-intellectualism is the rule in American politics. The brute attack on fact bearers is the inhuman truth. Smart people analyzing facts, loyal to policy instead of fealty to politics, is so rare that our government and its campaign infrastructure is the most grandiose failure ever wrought. Sunkara's way is the enabler. If we don't do it differently, all we'll ever get is humans who can't think, and all they feel is some kind of partisan rage.

    "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

    by DocGonzo on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 05:25:59 AM PST

    •  I have to agree, DG (1+ / 0-)
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      I like that Ezra and Yglesias are numbers guys, dealing in charts and polls and percentages, and explaining complex policies in terms normal people can understand. I read EK almost every day, and as I remember it, he was quite derisive of Ryan's plan for the most part.
      And then Sunkara says this:

      By comparison, the Republican tendency to shore up their social base by closing ranks and enforcing ideological conformity seems awfully sophisticated.
      It's great if you don't care about winning elections, I guess.

      “We are not a nation that says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says ‘out of many, we are one.’” -Barack Obama

      by skohayes on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 05:55:13 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  The point seems to be (0+ / 0-)

      that when it is time to choose, it is time to choose.  

      Facts do not make choices.  They are neutral by definition.  In addition, Klein and a few others too often end up involved in the frames and terminologies served up by the righties and msm.  

      His point was not that one should ignore facts.  

      The robb'd that smiles steals something from the thief. -- Shakespeare

      by not2plato on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 10:44:51 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  Thiessen lost his mind (5+ / 0-)

    when Obama was elected, and has been searching fruitlessly ever since:

    Here is a better idea: Republicans should take a page from Obama’s playbook, do what they think is right, use all the leverage at their disposal and stop worrying about the electoral consequences. If they learn anything from Obama’s victories, it should be this: Voters reward conviction politicians who fight for what they believe in — even when they disagree with them. Pandering does not work.
    By all means, don't pander to the people who put you in office, don't follow through on any campaign promises about silly things like jobs,  and please DO consider a pledge to an unelected lobbyist as more important than the Constitution.
    Let's just hope the Republicans listen to him.

    “We are not a nation that says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says ‘out of many, we are one.’” -Barack Obama

    by skohayes on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 05:28:26 AM PST

  •  I was going to comment on Danny Goldbergs (5+ / 0-)

    thing on Zero Dark Thirty, but thought better of it and instead wanted to urge All Democrats to sit back today and enjoy PBO's second inauguration. I think it's a win for the whole county (and do consider the alternative) and for sure a win for all Democrats (maybe even the few sane Republicans).

    Victory is sweet-November 6, 2012

    by al23 on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 05:28:29 AM PST

  •  Fabulous round up, MB! (2+ / 0-)
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    I'm still reading...

    “We are not a nation that says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says ‘out of many, we are one.’” -Barack Obama

    by skohayes on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 05:31:46 AM PST

  •  re: Zero Dark Thirty (4+ / 0-)
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    Criticizing an person’s ACT OF free expression is not concurrent with violating their RIGHT TO free expression.

    So few pay attention to the difference.

    Much less is known than not, More far than near. - Philip Larkin

    by rusto on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 05:36:11 AM PST

    •  It's the insistence that torture lead to Bin Laden (2+ / 0-)
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      a notion that Cheney et al cling to which any reputable source would discredit seems to be the sticking point

      A firmly vague disclaimer on the DVD release at the beginning might resolve this.

      ;

      I want 1 less Tiny Coffin, Why Don't You? Support The President's Gun Violence Plan.

      by JML9999 on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 05:58:07 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  The director said that message isn't in (1+ / 0-)
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        the movie and he wonders that people find it there.  He says torture didn't provide the intelligence that led to OBLs capture.  Haven't seen the movie so I only have his take on what he was saying.

        I'm not looking for a love that will lift me up and carry me away. A love that will stroll alongside and make a few amusing comments will suffice.

        by I love OCD on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 06:24:54 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

  •  Brass knuckles? Obama? (5+ / 0-)

    lol

    The banks have a stranglehold on the political process. Mike Whitney

    by dfarrah on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 05:58:19 AM PST

  •  WTF OFA? (5+ / 0-)

    "progress not just on gun-safety issues but in the long struggle against the Republican austerity agenda that makes a diety of deregulating away consumer and environmental protections, tearing the social-safety net and cutting taxes for wealthy campaign donors."  John Nichols

    OFA failed to get the memo.  In a recruitment e-mail yesterday, the OFA called on Obama volunteers to fight for the President's plans for IMMIGRATION  REFORM AND CUTTING THE DEFICIT? Mr. President and OFA, WHAT ABOUT JOBS?>?

  •  Just imagine if Mitt was it today! And then toast (4+ / 0-)

    Obama and those of us who got him elected with vigor.

  •  It's Now Official... (0+ / 0-)

    ...Peggy Noonan has put away her vibrator and taken out the claws.

  •  How Zero Dark Thirty Should Have Gone (3+ / 0-)
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    Have you ever seen any of those videos out there about how this or that movie should have gone? They did it for Lord of the Rings and Star Wars. Well, here's mine for Zero Dark Thirty. I found the timing and pacing of the film that glossed over the lost years under Bush, and made  the Obama Administration look like they were dragging their feet, almost as offensive as the torture scenes and repeated wistful wishes that torture could continue. I don't have the ability to animate it, but I hope you'll get the picture:

    SPOILER ALERT SPOILER ALERT SPOILER ALERT SPOILER ALERT SPOILER ALERT:

    Lady in WTC "I'm gonna die, aren't I?"
    9/11 Operator: "Oh, no. We'll get you out. Ooooops." (Sad, Sniff)
    OBL Family allowed, no, helped to leave the country by the Bush Administration. Saudis are our friends. Gas prices go sky high. IRAQ DEATH DEATH DEATH MISSION ACCOMPLISHED (well, no, not really, but that banner sure looks good on the aircraft carrier) TORTURE TORTURE TORTURE TORTURE TORTURE TORTURE TORTURE
    TORTURE TORTURE TORTURE Can the girl take it? TORTURE TORTURE TORTURE. She's actually pretty good at it. TORTURE TORTURE SEXUAL TORTURE TORTURE Morocco gives USA the important lead. It's filed next to the Ark of the Covenant from Raiders of the Lost Ark. TORTURE TORTURE TORTURE TORTURE TORTURE TORTURE
    TORTURE TORTURE TORTURE TORTURE TORTURE TIME TIME TORTURE TIME TORTURE OOOOPS, WE GOT CAUGHT TORTURING. TIME TIME TIME TIME TIME TIME TIME TIME TIME TIME CIA DEATHS TIME TIME TIME TIME TIME TIME TIME WISH WE COULD TORTURE MORE TIME TIME TIME TIME TIME TIME TIME TIME TIME TIME TIME TIME TIME
    OBAMA WINS TIME TIME TIME TIME. Lead beginning to look pretty good. TIME Ooooops, we should have looked at that lead from Morocco in the first place because that's it, and we could have gotten it without torturing anyone (but what fun would that have been?). FOLLOW FOLLOW FOLLOW. What the heck is this house? TELL TELL TELL. WAIT WAIT WAIT. 3-4 months not too shabby compared to the 7-8 years we got nothing torturing under Bush (but we still wish we could torture some more). DECISION. GO. DONE.

    FIN

    Using my free speech while I still have it. http://www.ellenofthetenth.blogspot.com/

    by ebgill on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 07:02:28 AM PST

  •  I hate agreeing with Debra Sauders. (1+ / 0-)
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    It makes me feel so unclean.

  •  I think Nooner just has to (0+ / 0-)

    provide so many words per week(?), or whatever, doesn't matter what order they are in.

    "I'm totally pro-choice in the matter of abortion. But of course I'm also so radically pro-life that I think every person from birth onward must have full and affordable access to healthcare." - Gail Collins

    by gritsngumbo on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 07:35:10 AM PST

  •  Sorry Prof. Krugman, I'm leaving (1+ / 0-)
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    leftreborn

    adjectives out of my celebration.  The passage of the ACA was a miracle, not a limited success.  Just like SS, and Medicare, and all those other progressive wins that progressives of the time fussed about but learned to love and fight for.  

    DADT is gone, DOMA's on life support.  We're not selling apples or living in cardboard boxes.  The 1%? are no longer revered job creators, they're finally seen as selfish greedy assholes with few redeeming qualities.  Ditto the Republucan Party.

    Way more here than I'd have hoped for in 2008, so take your qualifiers to the Very Serious People and natter away while the rest of us dance the victory dance.

    I'm not looking for a love that will lift me up and carry me away. A love that will stroll alongside and make a few amusing comments will suffice.

    by I love OCD on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 07:35:48 AM PST

  •  Sunkara is right (0+ / 0-)

    Ezra Klein has always been too moderate for me.  

    Is it true he is poised to replace Ed on MSNBC?  

    The robb'd that smiles steals something from the thief. -- Shakespeare

    by not2plato on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 10:40:37 AM PST

  •  Ezra Klein should replace Jim Lehrer (0+ / 0-)

    on the PBS NewsHour. Ezra's sharp, thoughtful, nonpartisan, and he loves boring guests who talk too much.

  •  Remember when we said this stuff to Democrats? (0+ / 0-)

    Marc Thiessen:
    Here is a better idea: Republicans should take a page from Obama’s playbook, do what they think is right, use all the leverage at their disposal and stop worrying about the electoral consequences. If they learn anything from Obama’s victories, it should be this: Voters reward conviction politicians who fight for what they believe in — even when they disagree with them. Pandering does not work.

    Me:
    Please ignore him, Republicans.

  •  People like Nooner and George Shill (for the right (0+ / 0-)

    wing) are paid to voice certain positions. They'd be out of a job if they didn't. But it always helps to believe these things when you deliver your lines.

    48forEastAfrica - Donate to Oxfam> "It is better to light a candle than to curse the darkness." Edna St.V. Millay

    by slouching on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 12:38:28 PM PST

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