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The Republican plan to rig the Electoral College has been well documented here over the last weeks.

But on Friday,  this important issue received national attention in the evening news on NBC so I thought it was important to disseminate.

Republicans hope to reinvent electoral vote
The way we elect the president is being challenged in key states by Republicans who want to award electoral votes by congressional district instead of a winner-take-all to the candidate who carries the state. Had this process been in place during the 2012 election, Mitt Romney would have won. NBC’s Andrea Mitchell reports.

Instead of Obama winning 332 to 206 the electoral map would have gone from blue to red with Romney winning by 273 over Obama's 262 by some estimates.
(Notice with all their gerrymandering and machinations and PAC money, the GOP can still only pull out an 11 vote win). 

They don't present it as any wrongdoing on the part of Republicans and even mentioned that some in the party are not on board with the plan. But it does bring needed attention to the issue - Americans already favor dismantling the Electoral College so knowledge of the attempts to rig votes in this way could accelerate that desire.

Hysterically, Mitchell ends with quotes from Bobby Jindal's exhortations to fellow Republicans to stop being the stupid party, and suggests "it's more important what the GOP says then how they count votes".

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  •  Permanent Ruling Minority. (6+ / 0-)

    Demographics will mean nothing to them for half a century to come.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Fri Jan 25, 2013 at 07:33:40 PM PST

    •  Them passing these pieces of legislation (2+ / 0-)
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      eXtina, slothlax

      would be disastrous but it would take more than just these laws for it to be a half-century disaster. In the gerrymandered red districts the children of Republican voters would have to vote just like their parents.

      Or they would have to implement other measures that more  overtly overturn the democratic process and make pushback that happened in 2012 just about impossible.

      liberal bias = failure to validate or sufficiently flatter the conservative narrative on any given subject

      by RockyMtnLib on Fri Jan 25, 2013 at 09:05:56 PM PST

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  •  You know (6+ / 0-)

    This scares me. But at the same time, this is an extremely short-sighted move on VA's part to even consider. Yes, Mitt Romney would have won if all 6 of the states considering this switched over.

    But if VA had given out EVs this way, we would have had President Gore back in 2000.

    matthewborgard.com ~ @MatthewBorgard

    by zegota on Fri Jan 25, 2013 at 07:34:06 PM PST

  •  Did they say anything about how Obama won (7+ / 0-)

    with a five million vote majority?  And how that majority will be nullified by a minority?

    "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

    by zenbassoon on Fri Jan 25, 2013 at 07:35:10 PM PST

  •  The GOP couldn't do what it does as easily (14+ / 0-)

    or as shamelessly without the utter complicity of the corporate news media.

    If a lie becomes the truth if it is repeated often enough, then an outrage becomes a shoulder shrug if it is treated as 'just more Washington being Washington'.

    "The argument goes this way...."

    Chaging the rules so that one side gets to play by the old rules of getting 100% of their so-called Red State electoral votes, while the other side gets to play by the "new rules" where only some of their most vital Blue States are split so that mathematically you lose even though you win, is not somebody 'making an argument'.

    It's rigging the game.

    It's like talking about marking cards at the poker table to roll everybody else who sits down as just another way to play poker.

    Brian Williams and Mitchell both do their part to take one of the greatest ratfucks in American history had it happened and talk about it like the designated hitter rule in baseball. To turn a really blatant and underhanded ratfuck into a human interest story meets wonky tactical shift, and to frame it as something that, actually, the diverse and ideologically flexible GOP that only exists in the Village's imagination is actually more or less pooh-poohing or dismissing the idea.

    This is how you mainstream something radical while giving yourself cover to say that you 'looked at both sides' of the 'controversy'.

    It's not an argument. It's a powergrab.

    I am from the Elizabeth Warren and Darcy Burner wing of the Democratic Party

    by LeftHandedMan on Fri Jan 25, 2013 at 07:44:55 PM PST

    •  yes, you've described it perfectly (7+ / 0-)

      they never utter anything remotely like 'rigging'

      "I'm sculpting now. Landscapes mostly." ~ Yogi Bear

      by eXtina on Fri Jan 25, 2013 at 07:46:51 PM PST

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    •  Juxtaposing this (5+ / 0-)
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      stagemom, eXtina, defluxion10, viral, Ahianne

      with how Harry Reid and many of his Senate collegues handled non-filibuster reform, I'm worried as hell about the next decade and a half.

      Reid and the non-reformers, of course, didn't really reform the filibuster, and then were rapidly rewarded with two immediate pies in the face.

      The first with McConnell openly fundraising within 24 hours of the deal on how he rolled Reid and humiliated his cluelessly inept counterpart, and then with those lovely wingnut judges who nullified Obama's recess appointments to get around Republican Senators enabled obstructionism at just the moment to make Democrats look even more impotent and foolish for giving up on real reform.

      I don't know how Obama is going to do anything for the next two years, let alone appoint a Supreme Court judge should somebody die or retire.

      If one of the Conservatives were to unexpectedly die, I don't think the GOP would allow the President to appoint that wingnut's replacement without the nuclear option.

      I am from the Elizabeth Warren and Darcy Burner wing of the Democratic Party

      by LeftHandedMan on Fri Jan 25, 2013 at 07:52:15 PM PST

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      •  Compounding the fail (4+ / 0-)
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        Reid then promised McConnell that filibuster reform and any rules changes were off the table for the next two years.

        A blank check to obstruct without consequences.

        Anybody who thinks a Senate Majority leader McConnell won't kill the filibuster for President Marco Rubio or Jeb Bush immediately is delusionally lulled into a trance by beltway bullshit and establishment Democratic poppycock.

        I am from the Elizabeth Warren and Darcy Burner wing of the Democratic Party

        by LeftHandedMan on Fri Jan 25, 2013 at 07:54:28 PM PST

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        •  Yes, it does concern me (3+ / 0-)
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          eXtina, viral, Ahianne

          that if the Republicans take the Senate in 2014 the filibuster will be completely dead on the first dead, no discussion, no debate, just gone. That's how THEY play. I am so disappointed. if they don't start passing a WHOLE bunch of extremely progressive legislation and confirmed armies of Obama's stalled appointments, Harry Reid will hear from me.

          Jon Husted is a dick.

          by anastasia p on Fri Jan 25, 2013 at 09:14:52 PM PST

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        •  We need more leaders among Ds (2+ / 0-)
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          a2nite, eXtina

          like Alan Grayson, who take this type of attitude towards Republicans. I don't mean violent, but in a "we aren't putting up with any bullshit from you" type of way:

          liberal bias = failure to validate or sufficiently flatter the conservative narrative on any given subject

          by RockyMtnLib on Fri Jan 25, 2013 at 09:27:28 PM PST

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    •  Recd for using 'ratfuck' in a sentence. Twice! ;0) (1+ / 0-)
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      eXtina
    •  The gold standard of "fair and balanced" (4+ / 0-)
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      a2nite, isabelle hayes, viral, eXtina

      journalism is fools gold.

      As far as good journalism goes, "balance" should be a lot lower in the list of priorities. The #1 goal should be accuracy. If accurate reporting doesn't seem "fair" or "balanced" and hurts some right-wing fee fees, too damn bad!

      liberal bias = failure to validate or sufficiently flatter the conservative narrative on any given subject

      by RockyMtnLib on Fri Jan 25, 2013 at 09:29:58 PM PST

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    •  That's the dumbest shit I've ever heard (2+ / 0-)
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      isabelle hayes, eXtina

      "The media" are not spokespeople for the DNC.  They are not going to go out every night and just report our opinions as facts or call our enemies names or (especially) pick sides in a partisan fight.  If people want partisan media there are plenty of outlets.

      The fact that this story made its way onto a national news broadcast in such short time is the big deal here.  What was a rather obscure story worked its way from local news, to blogs like this, to a place like MSNBC, to a national news broadcast in no time at all.  It seems like the Republican players in most of these states are moving to quash this bullshit.  We are fucking winning the goddam fight.

      But no, let's whine and complain about "the media" because they aren't advocating for our party's positions.

      There is truth on all sides. The question is how much.

      by slothlax on Fri Jan 25, 2013 at 11:45:27 PM PST

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  •  Drop down my rabbit hole (3+ / 0-)
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    Our Overlords will decide who is President. Best to chill.



    Denial is a drug.

    by Pluto on Fri Jan 25, 2013 at 07:53:57 PM PST

  •  What are you all doing about it? (2+ / 0-)
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    eXtina, ForestLake

    The real question is really ... besides talking about it, what are you all doing about it?
    Today, America is being taken hostage by a majority in the House of Rep. As a whole, the House doesn't represent the country at all.

    •  Correct. The house not represent the majority (4+ / 0-)
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      eXtina, a2nite, isabelle hayes, Ahianne

      And until dems can undo the gerrymandered districts the tail will continue to wag the dog.  

      In Wisconsin we tried to recall walker but there are some dems that just didn't believe in a recall.  But you better believe those same people can't wait to vote him out next election.   All the Blue state with GOP goes need some seriously good candidates to challenge these turds and then we need to GOTV.

      The last thing we need is a repeat 2010 in 2014.  

  •  What the hell even is an "Electoral College"? (1+ / 0-)
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    eXtina

    That's a clear "Constitution Problem", and is curable only bYy us making our next Constitution.

    THE SECOND AMERICAN CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION!

    There can be no protection locally if we're content to ignore the fact that there are no controls globally.

    by oldpotsmuggler on Fri Jan 25, 2013 at 08:55:03 PM PST

  •  Okay - here is my solution.... (2+ / 0-)
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    eXtina, slothlax

    We keep the electoral college (here me out).  As much as many would like to see a winner take all popular approach the electoral college does give smaller states relevance - as it should.  Come on, the population of Chicago is more than the entire state of Montana.   So Montana would cease to have relevance.  

    But the congressional districts MUST be drawn by impartial third party like in California or Arizona.  

    No more gerrymandering.  Take out gerrymandering and equal weight the districts on population we may have a solution.  

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