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[Cross-posted at The Left Coaster.]

Despite all the primal triumphant blaring from the Governor’s office about relatively modest administrative fiscal accomplishments in our sorry, clanking state of State this is the most important observation in all the chatter, how some of the most fanatical liberal-hatin’ tax-cuttin’ Republicans in all the Republic are saying such nice things about that hippie moonbeam traipsing-through-the-tulips Democrat.  What gives?

As the wise Digby of Hullaballoo instantly noted, don’t fall for a second for the blather in Republican quotes about fiscal responsibility, meeting monetary obligations and paying off debt.  Total bullshit, Republicans don’t care about balancing books, they care about using whatever political lever is presently handy (deficits and debt in our times) to lower taxes for their rich benefactors and brutally endorse whatever authoritarian means possible to keep those hippie feminist liberals in their place.  Plus those Al Gore environmentalists, Jesus, shut them up so exploitation of our earth can continue.  So why all the love for Mr. Brown?

Governor Brown and the Democratic legislature are in the shining, beatific promised land of supermajority, they could instantly, tangibly deliver liberal and progressive goals to millions of Californians, locking in their votes and the reality that government works for the little people.  So what is Assembly Speaker Perez going to do with this awesome potential power?

Nothing, Assembly Speaker Perez said.

My job is to say no, Governor Brown said.

High fives, champagne and whoo-hoos! from the cranky tax-cutting authoritarian Republicans, we couldn’t have screwed the little people and liberal politics better ourselves!

Millions of California children live in abject poverty with woefully underfunded schools.  We have mercilessly screwed our university students over the years to the point of where public education is a joke, UC and State are now essentially private institutions.  Prop 13 desperately needs to have its business loophole fixed.  What pittance we gave to the disabled and grievously sick we’ve cut like some super-ruthless Scrooge cousin of Satan. What, pray tell, could be done about our neglected roads, bridges and parks?


My job is to say no.

This is where electing a centrist becomes a disaster for the Democratic Party and the little people, they spend their political careers dis-avowing liberal values and causes, yet of course they proclaim no allegiance to Republicans either.  If the world where a relatively benign place with all our problems solved this wimpy embrace of stasis could somewhat be tolerated, but with so much pain and neglect in all of California’s screaming issues and problems this triumphant chest-beating of fiscal victory is revolting.  The Republicans are happy, yes.

Appropriately described political chumps like Brown and Perez got away with their inconsistent centrism most of their careers because the legislature was crippled, they never expected a supermajority to deliver such real political power.  Never be fooled for an instant, California isn’t back worth a damn, the place is reeling and broken with screaming inequality, lousy Prop 13 taxation, grossly underfunded schools and neglected infrastructure. For Christ’s sake, a supertrain and new tunnels to steal delta water doesn’t do shit for the little people!

With leadership failure like that there isn’t much hope for the young, hurting and unemployed among us, the Republicans were hopeless against anyone in 2014 and Jesus they’re blissfully happy with our Democratic governor now, we easily could get six more years of shining Democratic centrism, what say, you want a decent education with an affordable university degree so you can have a life like the State provided for previous generations?


My job is to say no.

Given their corporate restraints and format San Francisco Chronicle journalists Marinucci and Garofoli did an excellent job of presenting California’s terrible problems and the inconsistencies of centrism in this story.  “We are in an era of limits,” Garofoli quoted from a cruel UCLA professor, totally oblivious to screaming human pain and shuttered hopes for the futures of millions of Californians.

No, my dear asshole sir, we live in an era of centrist Democrats who have forgotten their duty to the little people, if they ever had any in the first place. Simply fix the business loophole in Prop 13 and use every cent to lower UC and State fees, the little people never demanded a socialist nirvana, they just want a government that works so they can have a chance.  With everything that’s gone wrong and all the howling wreckage around the State can’t fix Prop 13 for our students, could Perez and Brown just do that one small absurdly simple popular good thing, just anything?


My job is to say no.

Originally posted to paradox on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 05:46 AM PST.

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  •  Draft Solis. (3+ / 0-)
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    paradox, psnyder, Chi

    I have nothing else of value to offer.

    "I have often seen people uncivil by too much civility, and tiresome in their courtesy." Michel de Montaigne

    by JesseCW on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 06:37:10 AM PST

    •  Yes Hilda Solis is the way to go. (8+ / 0-)

      Jerry Brown will build up a surplus on the backs of the middle class and poor and then the R cons will come in and spend it.
        By investing in education social supports small and smaller business the D pro base will grow. If Jerry Brown does not know. He has got to go. Recall anyone.

      •  If they don't deliver, it's going to get harder (10+ / 0-)

        and harder to turn out the voters.

        We saw what happened in 2010 after the Party threw away a super majority at the national level by failing to deliver.

        We have to lower college tuition and raise minimum wage.  We have to increase school funding.
        We have to un-cut MediCal and bring back dental services.

        There's no chance of the state will go Republican, but we won't have the votes in a  de-gerrymandered situation to hold a super-majority unless Democratic voters have a reason to be revved up.

        Somehow we've got to get Solis (or someone like her) to challenge Jerry, or we have to make so much noise that he decides to retire rather than even risking a primary.

        "I have often seen people uncivil by too much civility, and tiresome in their courtesy." Michel de Montaigne

        by JesseCW on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 07:52:16 AM PST

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      •  Recall would be pretty tough (0+ / 0-)

        Jerry Brown has an approval rating of 48/35. Recalling him would be a pretty tough sell.

        "crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government" -Thomas Jefferson

        by Phil In Denver on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 12:10:15 PM PST

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  •  When I first enrolled in a CA Community College (20+ / 0-)

    20 years ago, it was six bucks a unit with a 60 dollar per semester cap no matter how many units you took.  I carried 15 units, it was 60 dollars.  

    Minimum wage was 4.25.  After taxes, paying my whole tuition cost about two days wages.

    After 15 years of 1 or 2 dollar hikes every other year or so, and doing away with the cap, in  2007 it was 20 bucks a unit.  15 units was 300 bucks.

    Minimum wage was 8 bucks an hour.  After taxes, about six days wages.

    Arnie raised it to 26.  A good deal of hell was raised, but he prevailed.

    Jerry motherfucking Brown  - the genius who came up with charging "enrolment fees" to get around the ban on in-state tuition for CA residents - hiked it to 46 bucks.  

    Nearly doubled tuition on the whole bottom 60% of kids in this we can have the funds to keep locking up people for growing a little pot, or because they're addicted to cocaine.

    Minimum wage is still 8 bucks an hour.  Now we're looking at about 12 days work after taxes.

    It's now six times as hard for a kid to pay their way through school.  This is Jerry's rich boy vision.

    If we've got any intent to take back our state Party (one the most top-down state Parties anywhere in the US) replacing this asshole isn't the worst place to start.

    "I have often seen people uncivil by too much civility, and tiresome in their courtesy." Michel de Montaigne

    by JesseCW on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 06:58:12 AM PST

  •  on the other hand... (8+ / 0-)

    ...there is also a great danger to the Democratic Party brand by  electing anyone to any office, from governor to Congress or anywhere else, who tries to represent ONLY Democrats.

    The biggest challenge for any elected official, regardless of political party (assuming they belong to one) is that, to be successful, both short-term and long-term, they do, in fact, need to try to represent ALL of the people of the jurisdiction that elected them. To do otherwise is to limit your chances of getting elected or reelected.

    Very few people in very few places can get away with representing ONLY the interests of Democrats and even fewer can get away with representing ONLY the interests of progressive Democrats.

    Even Bernie Sanders, who, to me, is one of the few truly progressive members of Congress, is widely admired by his independent constituents, as well as many Republican constituents, in addition to Democrats and progressives.

    To me, Sanders is one of the most brilliant politicians alive today, able to thread the needle of actively and aggressively fighting for progressive change while also ensuring that he doesn't exclude independents and Republicans.

    And, then again, it is also quite different to serve as a governor then as a member of Congress.

    You're right...too many Democrats like Jerry Brown seem to all-too-quickly abandon their progressive base once they get into office in an effort to appease independents and Republicans.

    There are ways of appealing to independents and Republicans without making your progressive base feel abandoned. Those are the politicians we progressives need to elect.

    •  No. There really isn't. Our State is 60% + (16+ / 0-)

      Democrat or Democratic leaning.

      California is not Vermont.  Democrats don't win here by pandering to right-wing assholes.  They win by getting Democrats to show up on voting day.

      We need to elect politicians who use the power we give them to enact the agendas they ran on, at least to the fullest extent they have the power to do so.

      Our policies are better.  They work.  They improve peoples lives.

      Then those people vote for us, no matter how anyone tried to "make them feel".  

      Steady jobs and a large minimum wage hike are what matter to the voters we're going to need in 14.  

      "I have often seen people uncivil by too much civility, and tiresome in their courtesy." Michel de Montaigne

      by JesseCW on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 09:10:48 AM PST

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      •  my guess is that VT would disagree (0+ / 0-)

        with the formulation that you have to pander to right-wing assholes to get elected. This is the place that elected Jim jeffords and Bernie at the same time. I think what the majority there values is honesty, integrity, dedication to one's  constituency, an independent mind, and a predilection for problem-solving.

        But I could be wrong. I'll shut up now and let Vermonters speak for themselves. :-)

        if necessary for years; if necessary, alone

        by SouthernLiberalinMD on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 07:48:52 AM PST

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      •  Steady jobs and a wage hike (0+ / 0-)

        are what all the voters want with the exception of the farthest right-wing fringe.  There is a bipartisan consensus in this country that we want jobs, good wages, social security, medicare, and medicaid.  When people say that those are "liberal" views and only liberals want those things, they are talking and acting in bad faith. Everybody except a tiny fringe of ideological fanatics wants those things.  Even some of the fanatics want them! Remember the Tea Party woman who told Obama to keep the government out of her Medicare? No matter how misguided or dumb that statement is, it's clear that that woman liked Medicare and wanted it to continue.

        This association of the above economic goals with "liberals" or even "Democrats" is just plain wrong, and it's used all the time as an excuse not to enact those policies. It goes something like this:  

        1)Jobs, a living wage, and earned benefits are liberal policies

        2)only liberals like liberal policies

        3)hardly anyone in America identifies as a liberal

        4)if we enact these policies we will suffer at the polls and lose political power.

        In truth,

        1) Well, maybe.

        2) Completely and provably false.

        3) True, because liberals have been identified for 30 years with everything short of demonic possession.

        4) Total bullshit, unless what you're worried about is offending your big donors.

        if necessary for years; if necessary, alone

        by SouthernLiberalinMD on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 07:56:32 AM PST

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    •  said no Republican EVER (6+ / 0-)
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      really? Can you name one thing a Repub ever did that represented the Democrats in his or her jurisdiction?

  •  Definitely need to fix the business loophole (10+ / 0-)

    in Prop 13. We also need high speed rail, and Brown is fully behind that. But the water tunnels - how can we stop them?

    The spirit of liberty is the spirit which is not too sure that it is right. -- Judge Learned Hand, May 21, 1944

    by ybruti on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 10:03:26 AM PST

    •  get it on the ballot and vote it down. again! (0+ / 0-)

      Once the cost/benefit analysis is done folks will be screaming. 14billion is nothing! It will cost much more than that.

      C-WIN's statement

      Garamendi's statement

      if a habitat is flooded, the improvement for target fishes increases by an infinite percentage...because a habitat suitability index that is even a tiny fraction of 1 is still infinitely higher than zero, which is the suitability of dry land to fishes.

      by mrsgoo on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 09:43:46 AM PST

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  •  Why are people surprised? (9+ / 0-)

    Jerry Brown brought the whole Proposition 13 disaster on 35 years ago by refusing to do anything or at least seriously dithering with a very large budget surplus.

    Looks to me like he hasn't learned his lesson.  He's still hung up on minding the cash register as opposed to minding the state as a whole.

    California voters need to step up the demands for public services to be fixed, and for businesses to pay their fair share of tax.

  •  I support Jerry Brown, period. (9+ / 0-)

    I might oppose this or that vs. his positions, but it's because of Brown that Democrats in CA are in a position where progressive change can even be discussed from a position of power and viability.  

    You know, I sometimes think if I could see, I'd be kicking a lot of ass. -Stevie Wonder at the Glastonbury Festival, 2010

    by Rich in PA on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 11:06:20 AM PST

    •  So, if you were Governor, (3+ / 0-)
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      you too would consider it your job to say "no?"

      Government and laws are the agreement we all make to secure everyone's freedom.

      by Simplify on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 11:36:25 AM PST

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    •  I agree. I think moonbeam or not Brown (1+ / 0-)
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      is doing his job. By keeping the state solvent, keeping its borrowing costs low, Brown is ensuring the survivability of many of the social programs that we hold so dear..

      •  Jerry Brown has taken a hatchet to those (1+ / 0-)
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        programs while raising taxes on the poor.

        We cannot restart growth through austerity.

        "I have often seen people uncivil by too much civility, and tiresome in their courtesy." Michel de Montaigne

        by JesseCW on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 11:56:02 PM PST

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    •  Jerry Brown didn't make the wave. He road it. (0+ / 0-)

      We can do better than rich third generation sons of privilege who are dedicated to blocking poor from joining the middle class and maintaining the prison industrial complex he once fought against.

      He is not the man he was.  It's the memory of who he was 30 years ago that got him elected - and he's completely failed to live up to his own legacy.

      He needs to go.  He's an obstacle to progress.

      "I have often seen people uncivil by too much civility, and tiresome in their courtesy." Michel de Montaigne

      by JesseCW on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 11:54:49 PM PST

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  •  Why do they think (7+ / 0-)

    we elected so many dems in the first place?? So we could have republican lite?

    I don't think so. Same thing in 2008, and look what happened to our super majority then.

    If people vote for democrats there's a reason. We are trying to speak; if you don't hear us, we'll have to speak louder and you're probably not going to like it.

    "Mediocrity cannot know excellence." -- Sherlock Holmes

    by La Gitane on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 11:20:04 AM PST

  •  Democrats don't want to be progressive (6+ / 0-)

    Even if the voters want them to.

    ¡Cállate o despertarás la izquierda! - protest sign in Spain

    by gjohnsit on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 11:33:40 AM PST

  •  Excellent post (8+ / 0-)

    In a similar vein:

    Nov. 08, 2012
    Calif. Gov. Brown: Dems dare not use their hard-won power for good
    by Simplify
    State Senate President Pro Tempore Steinberg has made more encouraging noises than Governor Brown or Assembly Speaker Pérez, so if anything's going to go anywhere, the likeliest place it would start is in the Senate.

    Government and laws are the agreement we all make to secure everyone's freedom.

    by Simplify on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 11:35:34 AM PST

  •  Useless Perez is my State Rep (1+ / 0-)
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    Which is why I voted NONE OF THE ABOVE in the last election. He's utterly useless and worthless.

  •  CA Dems haven't forgotten their duty (5+ / 0-)
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    to their Owners. CA Dems had a chance to pass single payer health care and they blocked it; one of the four insurance-bought Dems who blocked it was rewarded with a Congressional seat (Vargas, CA-51).

    When the Repubs can't be used as the excuse for not enacting what the people want (but the Owners do not want), then Dems will find some other excuse: "We are in an era of limits". Limits set by the Owners of the Democratic Party.

  •  Who was it that jacked up taxes on the rich in CA? (14+ / 0-)

    The income tax increase that saved us from worse cuts went through because JB is a better politician than you or I. More democrats got elected in CA because he kept the party sounding more rational than the teathuglicans.  The decrease in revenue in this state was real and needed to be dealt without the funhouse mirrors of past budgets. If this state was as progressive as this web site, we would have never elected Schwartzenegger or Wilson.  Or Feinstein, for that matter.

    Point is, JB did not campaign saying he could fund everything that should be funded.  The revenue is just not there. But he did more than anyone else to get the funding we have.

    •  He jacked up taxes on the middle class and poor (1+ / 0-)
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      because he insisted on raising sales tax.
      There was a better proposition on the ballot and Brown used his connections kill it. It didn't raise the sales tax and it brought in additional revenues.
      Brown is better than Wilson but we deserve better than Brown.

    •  He raised taxes on the poor, hitting them (1+ / 0-)
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      with extremely regressive sales taxes, while slashing services.

      Wilson is ancient history, elected by what was effectively a different state.  We have completely changed our demographics since then.

      More Democrats got elected because people want Democrats in office.  They didn't get elected running about Republican Lite bullshit, they got elected on minimum wage hikes and college aid and health care and jobs, jobs, jobs.

      No credible Democrat would have lost in 2010.  We easily could have elected an actual Progressive, but the State Party Machine made it clear that anyone who ran against the New Democrat version of Brown would be ending their career.

      "I have often seen people uncivil by too much civility, and tiresome in their courtesy." Michel de Montaigne

      by JesseCW on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 12:00:59 AM PST

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  •  Oh good heavens. (14+ / 0-)

    Jerry Brown is a total lefty, heart and soul. However, he has also always had a parsimonious streak which was ridiculed by Republicans, by the way, when he was governor year's ago and thought limousines and mansions were an extravagance.

    He didn't dig the hole California is in. That was a succession of Republican governors intent on strangling government and any benefit of government.

    He did, however, bring California BACK to solvency in no time. Had Meg Whitman won the election, she would have finished California off for good and that would have been her intent.

    Now California is back on level ground.  It can rebuild from there.  But the damage is extensive and this includes successful propagandizing to people that the benefits of government (schools, roads, bridges) just appear magically with no taxes required. He also turned THAT unfortunate path of the ship of state around.

    In short, he has been an amazing Governor working within constraints that began to be put in place when a guy called Ronald Reagan was governor of California.

    I wish we had Jerry in Hawaii.

    If you hate government, don't run for office in that government.

    by Bensdad on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 02:58:54 PM PST

    •  I would not call him amazing (1+ / 0-)
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      I would call him better than Whitman. That's not saying a lot.
      And the constraints started on his watch - Prop 13.
      The number one thing - top of the list - that should be done is to eliminate the tax breaks for commercial real estate in Prop 13.
      Now that we have the super majority we need to take advantage of it.

      •  He didn't pass Proposition 13. (5+ / 0-)
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        The People did. And only the people can repeal it.

        If you hate government, don't run for office in that government.

        by Bensdad on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 08:50:01 PM PST

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        •  He enforced Prop 13 vigorously (3+ / 0-)
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          even though he didn't pass it.

          only the people can repeal it.
          I'm not talking about repealing it.
          The number one thing - top of the list - that should be done is to eliminate the tax breaks for commercial real estate in Prop 13.
          I'm talking about modifying it - which can, and should, be done by the new super majority legislature.
          The modification is referred to as "Split Roll".

          A Public Policy Institute of California poll found majorities – 57 percent of adults, 58 percent of likely voters – favor such a plan; it’s supported by 66 percent of Democrats and 58 percent of independents, while Republicans are split (47 percent in favor, 48 percent opposed). The poll of 2,001 Californians was conducted Nov. 13-20; it has a 3.5-percentage-point margin of error for all adults and a 4-point margin of error for likely voters.

    •  Now you're judging souls? This isn't even (1+ / 0-)
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      a political discussion anymore.

      This isn't about your odd personal feelings about the guy as a person.

      I wish we had Jerry in Hawaii.
      Classic.  You have no idea how pervasive long term unemployment is in this State, or how the shredding of the safety net is destroying our young people, or how many fucking kids are living in cars.

      But you sure do love some Jerry Brown you heard about.

      "I have often seen people uncivil by too much civility, and tiresome in their courtesy." Michel de Montaigne

      by JesseCW on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 12:03:26 AM PST

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  •  I also back Brown fully (13+ / 0-)

    He is trying to move things forward without losing the very tenuous support he enjoys from some independents and libertarians.

    We currently control the agenda! We have already changed some of the stupid budget laws and are in a position to change more of them!

    And under Browns proposed budget, UC & CSU are getting back some of what was cut!

    It hurts when the things that end up getting cut or reduced are one's favorite causes, I get that. But California under Jerry Brown is now posed to lead the whole nation out of the Bush Recession, and finally to force the Jarvis slime back into the swamps. I see Brown as key to that.

    There are just so many things wrong in California and in the country and world. As long as some of those wrongs are getting righted, that's progress.

    As for Repugs liking Brown, that's just evidence of the man's skill as a political leader. Instead of putting him down for it, I say let's take advantage of the moment, because I really doubt it will last long.

    •  Huh? (2+ / 0-)
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      He is trying to move things forward without losing the very tenuous support he enjoys from some independents and libertarians.
      What the hey - you think he won becasue of independents and libertarians? Whoa daddy - not even close to reality.
      Instead of putting him down for it, I say let's take advantage of the moment
      That's the problem - he's NOT taking advantage of the moment.
  •  A contrarian defense... (9+ / 0-)

    Maybe I just come from a different place, but I'm not surprised, and I'm not (at this point) particularly upset.

    We just (in all of a few months) celebrated the unprecedented victory of complete Democratic majority rule in California.

    We crowed that we were going to be the shining example to the rest of the country that:


    No sooner did we swear them into office, we did.

    That is a monumental accomplishment, not to be taken lightly.

    California is no longer the butt of GOP jokes. Right wing demented fanatics can no longer point fingers at our state and chortle.

    We have every right to say to the rest of the country, "See, this is what Democrats can do."

    I'm not surprised our governor and speaker would choose to let that settle for a little while, and let the good times roll.

    Once things settle a bit, IMO then it will be time to decide how best to use that surplus to invest in those areas that can do us all the most good.

    Getting a surplus and then spending it would be the height of irresponsibility, with all due respect.

    It would be like your boss promising you a bonus, and before you even got your hands on the check, you spent it.

    What separates us, divides us, and diminishes the human spirit.

    by equern on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 04:17:12 PM PST

    •  Now is not the time to sit around - (4+ / 0-)
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      I'm not surprised our governor and speaker would choose to let that settle for a little while, and let the good times roll.
      Once things settle a bit, IMO then it will be time to decide how best to use that surplus to invest in those areas that can do us all the most good.
      No - you don't gain the advantage and the "let it settle". That's precisely the wrong thing to do. Holy Moly - that kind of attitude has plagued the Democrats for 40 years.
      You strike while the iron is hot.
      •  There's a lot pro-austerity gibberish from (1+ / 0-)
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        people who don't have to see the holes in the shoes of the kids who walk by my front door on school days.

        "I have often seen people uncivil by too much civility, and tiresome in their courtesy." Michel de Montaigne

        by JesseCW on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 12:09:19 AM PST

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    •  What "good times"? I've got friends killing (2+ / 0-)
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      themselves in despair because they can't find work after 5 fucking years in a Depression.  Poverty is becoming more and more pervasive and accepted.  

      I see y families going to the beach for a chance to get a shower instead of a chance to play in the waves.

      "Good times".

      Check the wait list for housing assistance for a 250 square foot SRO in Skid Row.

      "Good times".

      I can't even say it's because you don't live in this State.  A lot of the six figure and up crowd in this State is just as ignorant of what has really been happening for most people for half a decade now.

      "I have often seen people uncivil by too much civility, and tiresome in their courtesy." Michel de Montaigne

      by JesseCW on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 12:08:25 AM PST

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  •  the title of this diary should say (6+ / 0-)

    "Republicans Are So Happy With California Governor Jerry Brown, they can't even muster a challenge to him in 2014"

    Why are Republicans so happy with Brown you may ask?
    well they're scared  "Sh*tless of the Democratic legislature.

    Brown is doing a decent job, the guy is same guy he was back in the 1970's

    The goal for the Dems should be to pay down debt, add to a rainy day fun, and refund the social net. So far things are looking decent, but yes we do have awhile to go

    In fact, the occasional victory for the GOP cannot hide the fact that this country is fast heading into another era, not of two-party democracy, but a party-and-a-half system. And the GOP is the half a party- Larry Sabato

    by lordpet8 on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 04:17:16 PM PST

  •  Cannot agree with the diarist. (7+ / 0-)

    Jerry Brown is doing a fine job as a governor. Making the state financially healthy helps progressive politics in number of ways including ensuring survivability of social programs that the diarist seem to ignore.

  •  Can the legislature modify Prop 13? I doubt it (1+ / 0-)
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    but maybe I'm missing smth. UC has been getting only a few percent of its budget from state for decades. They did give a bit more money to UC this year.

  •  Jerry did a great job, gotta start where you are (3+ / 0-)
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    Zinman, bluebelle7, Hannibal

    and go from there. Our state has been saddled with prop 13 for a long, long time. Jerry cut the deal he could for a ballot proposition and an a budget that could work and could pass. Prop 30 passed and our state has what it needs to avoid even more cuts in services. Prop 30 barely passed and it was a real victory for funding our state which has slipped so badly relative to other states since I was a kid (almost 60 years of California living).

    Despite our super-majority, in its earliest stages of development, the taxing of business, oil and personal wealth it will take to return us to what we were. The slim margin of Prop 30's passage shows me that it will be a gradual process. I think Brown has accomplished something significant and is managing it well. As with Obama we are at a turning pint in a cycle that has become more and more conservative and the turn at the bottom of the curve isn't going to look like the upward swing. I agree that we should all push for more, I just don't think Brown is part of the problem.

    Love = Awareness of mutually beneficial exchange across semi-permeable boundaries. Political and economic systems either amplify or inhibit Love.

    by Bob Guyer on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 08:01:57 PM PST

  •  I voted for Brown for President (1+ / 0-)
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    Still proud of that vote

    •  Me too. That guy was the first National Politician (0+ / 0-)

      to use the term "Prison Industrial Complex".

      The guy we have now fought to stop voters from legalizing Cannabis, and fought our efforts a few years back to reform a broken 3 strikes system.

      Not the same people.  

      "I have often seen people uncivil by too much civility, and tiresome in their courtesy." Michel de Montaigne

      by JesseCW on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 12:13:30 AM PST

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  •  Whatever (0+ / 0-)

    Enacting a hard partisan agenda will just create a backlash.  I wouldn't get too worked up about it.

    There is truth on all sides. The question is how much.

    by slothlax on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 08:57:02 PM PST

  •  When I think of sound fiscal management.... (2+ / 0-)
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    Hannibal, louisprandtl

    ..I think of California. Not.

    You clowns out there (both parties) screwed things up so badly that you were bankrupt, offices had to shut down, and checks couldn't clear the bank. Billion dollar deficits were the rule, and horrific cuts in social services were unavoidable.

    Brown has put the state back on its feet. And everyone has had a part in it. Sorry if this bursts your bubble, but there's something good about raising sales taxes (in addition to income taxes in the higher brackets), because everybody is paying to regain the state's solvency. Everybody has some skin in the game, and everybody will demand responsible spending.

    State revenues are still down, and there are still places in the state with 15% unemployment and higher. When revenues increase - as the economic recovery begins to take hold - there will be the opportunity to fix the holes in the social safety net.

    Brown has the Republicans scared shitless. He has taken their number one issue - fiscal sanity - and shredded it. They have become irrelevant.

    Kossacks and other progressives in California should take a page from Occupy Sandy and begin - on their own - helping to provide shoes for the children JesseCW says he has seen walking to school with holes in their shoes. As a community, we should do more than bitch.

    JesseCW is right. After five years of the great recession, there are terrible needs in California. My own family members out there grow enough food for themselves on our small rural property, and give the rest to food banks. We can all do something. And we all should.

    Jerry Brown has put California on a castor oil and spinach diet. It sucks. But the state will - after decades - regain its fiscal health.

    Like they tell you on the airplane, put your own oxygen mask on that you will be able to help others. The state must be solvent and strong, so that it can pay its bills and help others.

  •  Awesome! Obama Democrats all around! (1+ / 0-)
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    Or should I say Reid and Baucus Democrats?

    Our job is to not do anything!  Eat your peas!

    Screw these people. No matter how much power you give the Democratic party, they don't enact even populist legislation, much less progressive legislation. And fixing problems? No sir!

    We have conclusively proven that Reaganomics is a failure--or rather, the most passionate adherents of Reaganomics have proven it's a failure, by driving Reaganomics to its extreme. That extremism has shown the terrible global effects of that economic philosophy, which threatens to destroy capitalism itself (the system the adherents of Reaganomics supposedly love).

    Doubling and tripling down on that philosophy, and the policies that emerge from it, is a doctrine of political failure. It admits that the state, the nation-state and the world are going down the tubes, and shrugs. It's as if Rome has already fallen--everywhere--and all that's left to do is loot. So they crank up the Reaganomics so that they can speed up the looting everywhere, leaving everything to collapse except the richest of the rich, who will, one supposes, retreat to their guarded compounds with the resources of the world.  Of course, the catch is that climate collapse is going to kill off the rich along with everybody else, just more slowly. But they seem to be OK with the fact that their kids or grandkids are going to live through a nightmare and probably die of it as long as they get to loot the world to breaking point and retreat to their compounds in the short term.

    if necessary for years; if necessary, alone

    by SouthernLiberalinMD on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 07:44:20 AM PST

  •  It's not our job to pick the right candidates, (0+ / 0-)

    it's our job to make them afraid of us. Politicians, even Democrats, even good Democrats, will always be reticent to take action without a demand. So make them! Protests, demonstrations, phone calls, outreach, ad campaigns, whatever can be done to push leaders to act - while having your actions to point to so they can cover their own ass.

    As FDR told progressive leaders: you know what I need to do, now go out there and make me do it.

  •  a VERY important lesson (1+ / 0-)
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    that electing just anyone, even if they don't really get why progressive values matter, doesn't get us anything.  Brown cannot blame an intransigent legislature.  No, this is what we get from the centrist corporate wing when they have the whole place to themselves  They walk the walk.  THere is no eleventy dimensional chess.

    Hay hombres que luchan un dia, y son buenos Hay otros que luchan un año, y son mejores Hay quienes luchan muchos años, y son muy buenos. Pero hay los que luchan toda la vida. Esos son los imprescendibles.

    by Mindful Nature on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 08:35:21 AM PST

  •  Very poorly written (0+ / 0-)

    You probably have some good points, however, I can't get through your rambling, insult-laden prose.

    "The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who in times of great moral crises maintain their neutrality" -Dante-

    by gillangreen on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 09:02:49 AM PST

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