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John McCain says "adding gay rights to the immigration bill would be like adding Tax Payer funded abortion"

Slate quotes Sen. McCain at a breakfast meeting yesterday, saying that including LGBT protections in the immigration bill (as Pres. Obama has suggested) would be a Poison pill.  Because we cannot marry (or at least have a federally recognized marriage), LGBT people and their  non-American partners face much more difficulty in settling in the US than straight people.  That's why immigration reform has been a critical concern to gay organizations for years.
Link to Slate story
 Thanks, John McCain, for comparing basic human rights to a political third rail.
Oh, and by the way, as far as I am concerned, tax payer funded abortions are a great idea.


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Comment Preferences

  •  Old Boat Anchor who™? (1+ / 0-)
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    Time to join your former running mate in the wilderness.

    Float like a manhole cover, sting like a sash weight! Clean Coal Is A Clinker!

    by JeffW on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 12:18:24 PM PST

  •  If John McCain is right, that adding gay (1+ / 0-)
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    rights to the immigration bill would kill the possibility of passing it, I think they ought to leave it out, and present it as a separate bill. They're already looking for ways to kill the immigration reform bill (like making sure the borders are secure). We don't need additional hurdles. With enough support from LGBT groups, and those who support them, we can push for that at a later time. Question: Why wouldn't the LGBT community be included automatically? Serious question.

    •  Will it be a moot question if (1+ / 0-)
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      the Supreme Court upholds gay marriage?  If so, then it definitely seems like leaving it out of the immigration bill is a good idea.  The country is changing, attitudes are changing - let's get through right now what we can and keep working on the rest.  And there's an awful lot of "the rest" to keep us working the next four years and then some.  Bit by bit, I believe we'll get there.

      •  left handed sort of good news is that the (0+ / 0-)

        draconian measures being proposed both in immigration and LGBT issues may be pushing the very changes the wingers fear so much.  States which cracked down on immigrants found themselves foundering financially.  
        In the meanwhile, states with a fragile economy and a sane government are figuring out that social issues are economic losers.  This is the schism we are seeing in the GOP today as the business side of the party wants to concentrate on economic issues while the morals/social issues group wants to continue to push various issues such as abortion or, marriage equality, for example.  The problem for them is that the country right now is focused on the economy and distractions from the social issues crowd are not welcome    

      •  From your mouth to the Court's ear! (0+ / 0-)

        I am just not that optimistic on the Court okaying gay marriage any time soon.

        Actually, I don't think this is necessarily a poison pill.  LIke the gay marriage question, I think it attracts as many votes as it repels.  Most of the people who would hate already hate the immigration bill.

    •  The rights in question . . . (0+ / 0-)

      would specifically be a way for gay couples to bring their foreign partner here to live as married people can do with no trouble.   It's not all gay rights, only those pertaining to immigration.  

      Of course individuals whether gay or straight would be included in the bill.  It's the equal treatment of our partnerships that is at stake.   I could have done a better job explaining that above.

  •  McCain has jumped the rails as he grills Hagel (0+ / 0-)

    over criticizing the surge in Afghanistan as a mistake

    McCain demands "were you right or wrong? Yes or no"
    Hagel tries to give a nuanced response as McCain literally shouts him down with "Yes or no.  Answer me yes or no"
    When Hagel tried to protest the question was of the "Do you still beat your wife category" McCain snapped "let the record show he refuses to answer"

    I guess the good news is that McCain is up to be the GOP version of Lieberman as the years have clearly taken a toll on him mentally

  •  I want him to explain to me (0+ / 0-)

    What I should do if I have an immigrant boy friend and the contraception fails.

    Mostly just to see his head explode.

    "Til you're so fucking crazy you can't follow their rules" John Lennon - Working Class Hero

    by Horace Boothroyd III on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 02:49:30 PM PST

  •  Giving in to RW arm twisting regarding abortion by (0+ / 0-)

    granting them the qualification of the Hyde rule, which at the time seemed a good-faith effort on our part to acknowledge some on the Right's religious beliefs, was in fact a mistake. Big, huge mistake.

    Hearing some RWNJ bandy the idea about as some ridiculous false equivalence is like listening to fingernails on a chalk board.  And McCain?  Aaaarrrggggghhhhh!

    John McCain, with his obstreperous posturing, reminds me of that guy we all knew in school.  You know the one--he was so desperate to be seen as the BMOC (big man on campus) that he would end up acting ridiculous and immature or even rude and obnoxious--whatever it would take to get him noticed, even if the attention was negative.

    Yes, Senator McCain, we see you.  We hear you yelling. And we think, what now. . .and for pity's sake, what would it take to get you to JUST. GO. AWAY.

    "In politics stupidity is not a handicap." Napoleon Bonaparte

    by citylights on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 05:30:12 PM PST

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