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For those interested, and to follow up the story and the diaries written about it on Wednesday, sadly a second victim shot by the law-abiding gun owner who lost his temper and momentarily thought the best solution to solve his problems was to use his gun, has died. This brings to three people dead in the attack, including the shooter. Freedomz.

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Originally posted to Fordmandalay on Fri Feb 01, 2013 at 01:32 PM PST.

Also republished by Shut Down the NRA.

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  •  It was expected (8+ / 0-)
    Osborn Maledon partner Bill Maledon said Thursday afternoon that Hummels was on life support, but that he would not survive his injuries.

    He deferred questions regarding donation of Hummels’ organs to family, saying he did not feel comfortable speaking for them.

    “They are making the determination when they can pronounce him dead,” Maledon said.

    Hummels has a wife and two children, 8 and 10 years old.

    http://www.azcentral.com/...

    "No one life is more important than another. No one voice is more valid than another. Each life is a treasure. Each voice deserves to be heard." Patriot Daily News Clearinghouse & Onomastic

    by Catte Nappe on Fri Feb 01, 2013 at 01:48:57 PM PST

    •  Watched the videos at that link of (7+ / 0-)

      interviews with people who knew Hummels. Newspaper journalist he had worked with, Circuit Court judge that hired him out of law school, owner of the firm he worked in. Guy with all the right stuff: brains, dedication to justice, hard working, insightful, articulate, sense of humor, independent streak; plus a wife and two kids - 8, 10.

      Then the guy police were praising for chasing Harmon after the shooting. Turns out he had ridden in the elevator with Harmon who was hitting the 1st floor button with a shaking finger, seemed upset. He ended up becoming a witness when Harmon opened fire, and decided to follow him. Harmon realized this, stopped, got out of his car with a rifle and fired one shot. The witness took off. He had a good description of the perp and his car, which was very helpful for the police. The mayor is going to have some kind of recognition ceremony.
      Interview with witness who chased shooter.

      Oscar Behar is a 20 something, boyish good looking, HISPANIC guy.

      Yeah, I think the city of Phoenix, AZ should dwell on this a bit. Old white guy with two weapons shoots and kills two younger white guys that are classic good citizens with family values. He is chased by a young Hispanic male who he shot at, failing to stop the unarmed citizen from giving excellent information to police. May have been why Harmon chose suicide.  

      "People, even more than things, have to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed and redeemed; never throw out anyone. " Audrey Hepburn "A Beautiful Woman"

      by Ginny in CO on Fri Feb 01, 2013 at 03:03:37 PM PST

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    •  so another death (8+ / 0-)

      but additional survivors touched forever by gun violence - these young children who lost a parent; the wife who lost a spouse.  
      Condolences to the families.  And may this be another call for the rest of us to make this the time to make the changes needed to start to address this tragic waste of life.

      Never separate the life you live from the words you speak - Paul Wellstone

      by meralda on Fri Feb 01, 2013 at 03:09:45 PM PST

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  •  That officially makes it a murder-suicide. (5+ / 0-)

    The beat I follow, and the growing craze sweeping America. In  many cases, these are not reported as homicides in national figures.

    Now that President Obama has lifted the ban on collecting and analyzing such actions, I may have to find another hobby.



    Denial is a drug.

    by Pluto on Fri Feb 01, 2013 at 01:52:05 PM PST

    •  It was already a murder/suicide (5+ / 0-)
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      Pluto, a2nite, Ginny in CO, joynow, WakeUpNeo

      This man is the third death from the incident. First was the other victim who died at the scene, second was the shooter who killed himself. Wonder if he knew he'd killed not one, but two, people.

      "No one life is more important than another. No one voice is more valid than another. Each life is a treasure. Each voice deserves to be heard." Patriot Daily News Clearinghouse & Onomastic

      by Catte Nappe on Fri Feb 01, 2013 at 02:10:12 PM PST

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  •  Guns, guns every where but not a drop of sense. (2+ / 0-)
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    Calamity Jean, WakeUpNeo
  •  A lost temper shooting? (3+ / 0-)
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    myboo, WakeUpNeo, kurt

    Back in high school a great teacher I had asked the class to close our eyes, open our mind, raise our hand if we could see any possible scenario where we might kill someone besides in self defense.
    Seconds later eyes were open and two hands were up, mine and the teachers'.
    He asked me the scenario.

    A small gathering, a few drinks, a gun on table in front of us, we'd come in from target shooting. Discussion enrages me, person further goads me, I pick up the gun...
    The whole thing imaginary... I'm not a drinker, a shooter or easily enraged. But combining an easily available loaded gun with drink and/or rage

    The teacher had been asking this for years as a college professor had asked his class. He'd been the lone hand raiser then and most years no one raised their hand, never more than one.
    He'd added the closed eyes in recent years thinking it was peer pressure that kept hands down

    The teacher had imagined a similar scenario when he'd raised his hand in his class. Most people simply could not imagine it possible, they weren't killers. No, they wouldn't pick up a gun in anger, of course not. They'd talk, they'd walk. They'd never shoot.

    I assumed I'd do the same, didn't actually think I would or could kill. Happy to say that more than 30 years later I've never killed anyone.
    Can't recall just how teacher explained point of experiment/question.  Gun violence was part of what we were looking at then. I do recall he wished more people understood that it was possible...

    But I have often thought back to that class in recent years as carry laws have exploded. As special laws pass where guns can go into ridiculous places (like bars)
    Having a loaded gun changes the equation of predicting reactions.

    I am so sorry for this loss, for all the losses and grief

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