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Natural Born Killer.
  • 'Hizzoner' Edward I. Koch, former three-term mayor and unrepentant gadfly of the City of New York, died on Thursday of congestive heart failure at the age of 88. His tenures as Mayor, and his impact on politics in the City-so-nice-they-named-it-twice were either really really good, or really really bad, depending on your perspective and upon which of his political stripes (liberal vs. conservative) Koch was sporting on a particular day. But whether you were a Koch fan, or Koch hater (and there are legions of both), there is no question that he left his mark on politics, both New York and national. May he rest in peace.
  • Furthering the never-ending quest to prove once and for all that in-home equitable division of homemaking responsibilities is so emasculating so that white women need to back to being barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen post-haste (I limit it to white women because that has never been the oppression faced by most nonwhite women in America), this week USA Today breathlessly reported that men who spend more time around the house doing "traditional chores" get laid less. According to the American Sociology Review, doing only he-man chores around the house is associated with having marital relations 1.6 times more. Deliberately missing far more obvious reasons for all that reduced sexy time—such as the use of 15-year old data not reflecting the greater acceptance today of "more equal" core-labor division at home, and the fact that the men in the study were first experiencing first-hand the to-the-bone fatigue that results from taking care of a home and the kids all the time day to the point where the only thing that gets you turned on is the idea of some sleep escaped USA Today when it learned of this research. Those who will never take the time to actually read the research paper despite it being link will therefore never know the "misleading baloney factor" that underlies USA Toay's declaration that men who wash dishes simply aren't sexy. (Unless you're a Black protestant or a conservative Christian: according to the researchers, their marital boot knocking is not affected one bit by any of this stuff.)
  • As of this writing (Friday), the cause of Thursday's catastrophic explosion at PEMEX's headquarters in Mexico City, which killed more than 30 people and injured more than 100, is still unknown. What is known that PEMEX, already having a safety record problem, has definitely going to have to evaluate whether its current plans to solicit outside investment maybe should be put on hold until they get the basics (safe workplaces) down pat.
  • Reminding us all that the devil is always in the details, further discussion of this week's much-heralded "bipartisan" proposal for "comprehensive immigration reform" suggests a bill that might actually get passed, given that there's something to hate in it for both sides of the political divide, whether it be that all those Brown people are going to get a chance to be citizens someday, or that they are going to get that chance only after everyone legally in line does, which means in practical terms that their chance may come 15-20 years from now if nobody else applies for a visa, as of right now,  Given that non-marriage-based family visas from the countries most folks think of as being the primary source of the undocumented have visa availability dates as far back as 1999 for family preference categories and 1984 for non-skilled employment categories.  Clearly, nobody's going to be happy, which is why it will probably pass.  Oh, Oh, and by the way: that "bipartisan thing?" As Slate so aptly argues, Baloney.
  • All y'all Beyonce haters can hate, but the former Destiny's Child frontwoman will still be center stage on Super Bowl Sunday, as the scheduled halftime entertainment. And looking good (although whoever did her weave for the Inauguration should be ashamed of him/herself), no matter how mad Chuck Schumer is at her for Inaugurationgate. I swear, when it comes to hating on Black women singing the National Anthem, prerecorded or not, I swear it's Déjà vu.  (Stop complaining; it could have been Justin Bieber.)
  • As a "little lady" (OK, so not that little!) who always wants to be in the vanguard when it comes to the latest fashion accessories, today's midday diary author is always on the lookout for the latest, most effective, self-defense tools for my (IMO) lovely daughters in their 20's. Fortunately, my search is over: Gayle Trotter of the "Independent Women's Forum" has made plain that there is only ONE weapon even worth talking about for today's modern mom:

    Young women are speaking out as to why AR-15 weapons are their weapon of choice . . . The guns are accurate. They have good handling. They're light. They're easy for women to hold. . . And most importantly . . .[a]n assault weapon in the hands of a young woman defending her babies in her home becomes a defense weapon, and the peace of mind that a woman has as she's facing three, four, five violent attackers, intruders in her home, with her children screaming in the background, the peace of mind that she has knowing that she has a scary-looking gun gives her more courage when she's fighting hardened, violent criminals.
    Now, if only we could get on lockdown that self-healing thing that Claire has in Heroes, moms could guarantee that we won’t be blown away trying to run to the gun or other closet and get the ammunition clip necessary to actually fire the AK-15 at the hardened criminals with any actual effect. (What, you mean that responsible moms don’t already  have a fully locked and loaded AR-15 sitting around their babies as the violent attackers burst in?)
  • Yet another idea whose time has clearly arrived:  free compliments on the Internet. Had a bad day at work with an unappreciative boss? Feel like a dork after that last presentation in Theoretical Mathematics? Got a C- in Advanced Basket Weaving and don’t know how you’re going to get to ? No worries; for the low low price of “FREE”, someone at your college who likes you (or just wants to score some brownie points) can send in props and your school’s Free Compliments will post them its social media sites.  So that the whole world knows just how great you are even if you’re not that great.  Which of course, you are! (Please note that this was a free compliment given to everyone at Daily Kos!)
  • We’re going to have to get serious about monitoring those pooties. This week, they took a reputational beating when Fish and Wildlife and the Smithstonian Conservation Biology Institute reported that cats, whether domesticated or feral, are dangerous to a lot of other wildlife if left to their own devices. Wildlife we actually like almost as much as kitty cats, such as birds. Or bunny rabbits. Apparently, it’s in their nature to hunt, stalk, kill, rinse, wash and repeat if you let them.  Who knew (other than the folks who have had the remains of myriad dead birds and small wildlife left on their deck stairs and front porches as love tokens from their furry little friends?)

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  •  Not doing chores at all (6+ / 0-)

    Guarantees you no action at all.

    Studies like this seem to focus on one factoid when so many other variables come into play.   If you're doing a lot of yard work.. you have a yard that is more sizable, which means you have more money and free time.   Versus someone living in a small apartment with no lawn.  

    I'm betting those who pay for lawn service do pretty well.

    And now, a pimp.. even though it's on the Rec list.. I'm debating whether to upload a ton more videos of the house of rep tour.. yeah or neh?  And did these come out worth anything?

    Gandhi's Seven Sins: Wealth without work; Pleasure without conscience; Knowledge without character; Commerce without morality; Science without humanity; Worship without sacrifice; Politics without principle

    by Chris Reeves on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 11:34:39 AM PST

  •  Recession literally killing older Americans (28+ / 0-)
    These Americans in their 50s and early 60s — those near retirement age who do not yet have access to Medicare and Social Security — have lost the most earnings power of any age group, with their household incomes 10 percent below what they made when the recovery began three years ago, according to Sentier Research, a data analysis company.

    *  *  *

    New research suggests that they may die sooner, because their health, income security and mental well-being were battered by recession at a crucial time in their lives. A recent study by economists at Wellesley College found that people who lost their jobs in the few years before becoming eligible for Social Security lost up to three years from their life expectancy, largely because they no longer had access to affordable health care.
  •  I went to a bird watching club meeting. (10+ / 0-)

    Well, if you believe in reincarnation.  Most of the people there were tiny, small-boned, fluttery types.  These were followed closely with fascinated fluffy types.

    Just a personal observation.

    guns are fun v. hey buddy, watch what you are doing -- which side are you on?

    by 88kathy on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 11:36:50 AM PST

  •  hey, I just realized it's my DKos anniversary (14+ / 0-)

    this week.

    Six years, I've been here.

    Feels like twenty.  ;)

  •  Our 4 pooties (aka "killing machines") stay inside (11+ / 0-)

    They have to stay in the house because they are FIV+, but even if they weren't, I'd keep them in.  Out here in the country where we live, there are things around that are as hazardous to pooties as pooties are to birds - such as coyotes, foxes, and fast cars.

    They can watch the birds gather around the feeder in the front yard, and when they want to stalk and pounce, they go after their toys!  Or I'll get out the laser pointer and watch them all run around madly.

    Fox News is to the truth as a flaming bag of dog shit is to a packed lunch. --MinistryOfTruth

    by snazzzybird on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 11:41:59 AM PST

    •  We live out in the country also (10+ / 0-)

      and our pooties are all indoors.

      Too many coyotes.

      •  My 7 pooties are also kept indoors. (4+ / 0-)

        Where I live now it's the Wild Things (coyotes, fisher cats, fox, hawks and owls)  that do in many indoor/outdoor pooties. I know because I lost 2 to some WTs when I first moved here several years back. In the warm weather the pride spends a lot of time on our screened porch. The one that really tries to get out is of course, the one that was declawed when I adopted him but there's no way he's going out. They get their hunting thrills these days when the mice come in during the cold weather.  ^,,^

    •  There was a diary last week about this issue (9+ / 0-)

      with a fair amount of grumbling in the comments, but a domesticated cat belongs indoors, and a feral cat has no safe place to be; TNR isn't effective and cats living outdoors decimate wildlife and spread disease.

      My cat mostly ignores TV and computer screens, but yesterday I was playing the epic Dachshund v Ghost Crab video, and he immediately attacked the screen. Something about that ghost crab got him in his instinctual killer core!

    •  The little furry murder machines also catch lots (2+ / 0-)
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      of mice and bugs and lizards. So, overall they do pretty good work. The birds they catch are much less frequent than other creepy crawlies that they dispatch, so I don't think birds are in much danger of going extinct; and, just imagine how much bird shit you'd have on your car if the cat didn't scare them out of your yard.

      Just doing my part to piss off right wing nuts, one smart ass comment at a time.

      by tekno2600 on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 12:16:57 PM PST

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      •  those creepy crawlies . . . . (5+ / 0-)

        are food for other animals, including birds. There are no loose threads in the web of life.

        Pooties are indeed killers.  There are many islands where introduced feral cats have wiped out . . . well . . .  everything. And many more islands where cats are banned, shot and poisoned, to prevent that from happening again.

      •  Please read the study (6+ / 0-)

        Your impression that cats do not kill many birds and their overall wildlife impact is unimportant is not a scientific study.

        Please keep your cats indoors.

        We can safely abandon the doctrine of the eighties, namely that the rich were not working because they had too little money, the poor because they had too much. JK Galbraith, 1991

        by Urban Owl on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 12:39:28 PM PST

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        •  Yep (0+ / 0-)

          A show on Animal Planet a while back rated domestic cats as the all-time greatest killers.  All felines are terrific murder machines, but house cats take the crown as most lethal killers.  Before my late parents started keeping Speed inside, he'd bring back rabbits, all sorts of birds, anything.  I inherited him after my parents died.  He is now a contented inside cat.  The old man's sleeping right next to my chair as I type this.

          If Speed the dreaded killer can be turned into an inside-only cat, it's possible for any cat to undergo the transformation.

          Tell me what to write. 'To know what is right and to do it are two different things.' - Chushingura, a tale of The Forty-Seven Ronin

          by rbird on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 01:47:21 PM PST

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        •  I actually read the study before it was posted (3+ / 0-)
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          here, but you sound a bit more alarmed than even the author of the study, who did not say that all cats need to be kept inside. Simpler steps, like adding a bell, are suggested instead. Yes, cats do kill billions of birds and mice, but it is doubtful any of these animals are headed for extinction. The population of rodents is quite large and can grow very rapidly if left unchecked. Cats have been domesticated for thousands of years, often in densely populated areas and can perform a useful function in controlling this, even if it offends some people's sensibilities. Yet, birds and mice are still not extinct. Furthermore, the birds they hunt are not exactly eagles or condors. So, I think there should be better recognition of the fact if cats didn't scare away and sometime eat certain birds, their populations could become unsustainably high. I have also learned, after reading many scientific studies, that it's usually not a good idea to put too much stock every latest study. Not only is it wise to wait for more peer review, but the results are often badly misinterpreted by what passes for science journalism these days.

          Just doing my part to piss off right wing nuts, one smart ass comment at a time.

          by tekno2600 on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 02:03:18 PM PST

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          •  Let's also remember that things don't always go so (5+ / 0-)
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            well for little tigers:

             photo thought.jpg

            Just doing my part to piss off right wing nuts, one smart ass comment at a time.

            by tekno2600 on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 02:08:54 PM PST

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          •  Ask the aussies about the cute little bunnies n/t (2+ / 0-)
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            Fry, don't be a hero! It's not covered by our health plan!

            by elfling on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 09:31:39 PM PST

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          •  Know what else is a bad idea? (0+ / 0-)

            Introducing invasive species into ecosystems that aren't equipped to adapt to them. Just ask the Australians. Hares, anyone (but they're so much fun to hunt! Surely that can't be bad)? Oooh... or maybe Cane Toads (but they'll control our cane beetle population... what could go wrong?)! SO MANY fun ways to mux up a fragile biosphere...

            Cats have indeed been domesticated for thousands of years in Africa, Europe, and Asia. In North America... not so much. Admittedly I don't have any good figures on when they may have been introduced to N.A., but it can't have been more than... 500 years maybe? Long time for us; not so much for an ecosystem that's been doing its thang for millions without felis silvestris roaming around.

            Yes, of course "birds and mice" aren't extinct. But consider the populations of birds who ARE impacted  in N. America: Cardinals, Bluejays, Piping Plovers, and others. Just because they're not extinct doesn't mean felines don't have a hugely negative impact on them. As with most large-scale threats to wildlife, human interference (here by introducing a new predatory species) in ecosystems is the culprit.

            See more information from the American Bird Conservancy:

            In short, it's not hard, people. Keep your kitties indoors. The cost to you is nominal (and by nominal I mean non-existant), and the benefits to your cat and nature are high.

            "entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem" -- William of Ockham

            by shazamtwix on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 11:35:23 PM PST

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      •  Great snakes! (3+ / 0-)
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        My sister lives near Sacramento and their neighborhood would be overrun with rodents if the various outdoor cats didn't keep them under control.  If the rodent population gets too high, rattlesnakes are attracted to the food source and move in.

        Cats also kill snakes.  I read once that in Ancient Israel it was considered bad luck to go into a house that didn't have a cat because you were in danger of being bitten by a poisonous snake.  Maybe this had something to do with why cats were worshipped in Ancient Egypt -- something modern cats have not forgotten.  There's also a Muslim legend about how the Prophet was threatened by a snake one day and a cat killed the snake.  In gratitude, the Prophet stroked the cat's back, and that is why cats always land on their feet.  He also ran his fingers across the cat's forehead and down the back of her neck -- on tabby cats you can still see the black stripes left by his finger-tips.

        Better to hide your tax returns and be thought a crook than to release them and remove all doubt. [Adapted from Abraham Lincoln]

        by Caelian on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 01:05:38 PM PST

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      •  thanks (0+ / 0-)

        I did want to ask this question, purely playing Pootie's Advocate, whether the damage to animal populations we like is not substantially offset by them keeping unwelcome populations in check.  Especially when you don't live on an island, where a nonindigenous apex predator can more easily wipe out a prey population.

        And I wonder if those with suburban backyard bird feeders and unwelcome neighbor cats might successfully train their neighbor pooties, by spending some patrol time outside with a water pistol.  I successfully persuaded a neighbor bully cat to stop coming in my cat door by entrapping him one night (rigged the door to open in but not out), and then chasing him around for a while with buckets of water.

    •  Horatio the Evil Kitteh of Doom roams outside all (3+ / 0-)
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      Sleeps in the utility room at night so the coyotes won't get him.

      My first clue that he was a mighty hunter was the Zombie Rabbit. ZR first showed up on the front porch. With bits of him strewn around. I threw him over the fence. He returned the next morning. I threw him over the fence. His head showed up the next day under the horse feeder. I threw his head over the fence. It showed up on the back porch next. I threw it over the fence, this time making sure that HTEKOD watched. For this, I was given a view of Horatio's back, sitting position, tail wrapped tightly, ears flattened.

      Bad owner. Bad, bad owner.  

      Freedom has two enemies: Those who want to control everyone around them...and those who feel no need to control themselves.

      by Sirenus on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 02:01:10 PM PST

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  •  Two things: One, sorry, I didn't like (2+ / 0-)
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    Ed Koch. Every time he was in the news the last few years he was smearing Democrats over Israel. He gave aid and comfort to right wingers for too many damned years.

    Two: Keep your cats inside and insist on spaying and neutering feral cats. We do. We've had up to four cats inside our home at once.

    "They come, they come To build a wall between us We know they won't win."--Crowded House, "Don't Dream It's Over."

    by Wildthumb on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 11:42:38 AM PST

    •  Because Israel is all that matters (7+ / 0-)

      at least to some.  How can a prospective appointee to Sec. of Defense be asked 166 questions about Israel, and only 8 or so about China?

      The Republicans made Hagel's point for him, without even knowing it.

      Oregon:'s cold. But it's a damp cold.

      by Keith930 on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 12:32:26 PM PST

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      •  Someone, some day in public life will challenge (4+ / 0-)
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        this Israel ass-kissing, and there just might be a domino effect. We need to get rid of the right wingers in this country, and the right wingers in Israel.

        "They come, they come To build a wall between us We know they won't win."--Crowded House, "Don't Dream It's Over."

        by Wildthumb on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 01:46:59 PM PST

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    •  Koch worked the seesaw -- liberal to conservative (1+ / 0-)
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      better than any politician in American history.  Don't think he was a bad mayor, but his third term was a debacle and his last decade in public life was pretty much a cry for attention.

      Ed Koch placed himself at the exact position he needed to be in for the audience in front of him.   He could simultaneously be a reforming liberal on the Upper West Side, and a populist conservative in single-family neighborhoods in the outer boroughs.  

      Basically, he succeeded in the political dance that Mitt Romney crashed and burned while trying.

  •  Carly Fiorina Continues to Show (11+ / 0-)

    everyone who bothers to listen to her why she nearly destroyed HP and why she should go home and spare us from her partisan crap.  

    Her appearance on This Week just reinforced her wingnuttery on economics; her contempt for public service and government (unless she is in charge); and her full political alignment with the John Birch Society Republicans.

    Good thing Krugman was there to rebut her nonsense.

  •  "The only thing that stops a bad pootie from (28+ / 0-)

    killing bunnies and birdies are good bunnies and birdies with gun show loop holes.

  •  I thought women liked the AR-15 because (16+ / 0-)

    in addition to thirty rounds of ammunition they can put three tubes of lipstick into the magazine so they can look presentable when the police arrive to clean up the dozen or more marauders they took out protecting their babies.

    Seriously, if you need a $2,000 assault rifle to protect your kids at home, you need to move to a better neighborhood.

    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

    by darthstar on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 11:43:31 AM PST

    •  I liked John Stewart's comment (15+ / 0-)

      "Where does she live? The Alamo?"

      If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low... oh you oughta see it sometime. It's a sight. A big plane like a '52... varrrooom! Its jet exhaust... frying chickens in the barnyard!

      by Major Kong on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 11:57:34 AM PST

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    •  a faulty line of reasoning... (5+ / 0-)
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      whereas a handgub(sic) on the hip would be better and for those who want a light home defense instrument while "facing three, four, five violent attackers", a 12 ga. pump with #00  is adequate until the 911 call is fulfilled by the local constabulary  All guns are scary when you fire the first round.

      Young women are speaking out as to why AR-15 weapons are their weapon of choice . . . The guns are accurate. They have good handling. They're light. They're easy for women to hold. . . And most importantly . . .[a]n assault weapon in the hands of a young woman defending her babies in her home becomes a defense weapon, and the peace of mind that a woman has as she's facing three, four, five violent attackers, intruders in her home, with her children screaming in the background, the peace of mind that she has knowing that she has a scary-looking gun gives her more courage when she's fighting hardened, violent criminals.

      Warning - some snark above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ "We're like a strip club with a million bouncers and no strippers." (HBO's Real Time, January 18, 2013)

      by annieli on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 12:03:45 PM PST

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      •  not so much (1+ / 0-)
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        a handgun is incredibly inaccurate, even in expert hands, when under tension, as one would be in a self defense situation.

        I agree that a shotgun would be the more effective tool, but the recoil is such that for a woman of smaller stature, an AR-15 is likely much better. Besides which, most shotguns are set up to accept fewer shells in the tube than an AR-15 will hold in the magazine and magazines are much easier for reloading (if necessary) than loading individual shells into a shotgun. Particularly if one's hands are shaking, etc.

        •  don't overplay your hand as a n00b, Pete (1+ / 0-)
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          overgeneralizing and defending AR-15s anywhere in DK can get you into trouble like in the other diary; handguns are necessary in CQB as you may already know especially in the domestic space hypothetical where you can't get to your shotgun. Besides, everyone should be well trained, even IDPA qualified like some folks in DK

          Warning - some snark above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ "We're like a strip club with a million bouncers and no strippers." (HBO's Real Time, January 18, 2013)

          by annieli on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 12:27:58 PM PST

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          •  what is wrong with defending AR-15's??? (0+ / 0-)

            It is a very effective tool and one of the most popular weapons in America. I carry one when I am in the woods around my farm specifically because of its positive characteristics - very effective on coyotes because of my familiarity with the rifle and its target acquisition qualities.

            Handguns on the other hand, as I stated above, are very infeffective even at very close quarters. There is a very good reason police officers often have an AR-15 available although they carry a semi-automatic pistol on their hip.

            •  LOL, nice try but I won't take the bait /nt (1+ / 0-)
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              Warning - some snark above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ "We're like a strip club with a million bouncers and no strippers." (HBO's Real Time, January 18, 2013)

              by annieli on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 12:41:10 PM PST

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              •  what bait? (1+ / 0-)
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                Look, I know you don't "know me" (not in a biblical, but in a "community" way - lol), but I dont play games or tricks. I make no apologies for being pro-individual liberties and individual rights. We all dont live in nice gated communities with low crime rates and responsive police departments and thus have to be responsible for the safety of ourselves and our families/property.

                I was raised with guns, learned to shoot them well before I learned to ride a bicycle. The govt put an M16 (military version of the civilian AR-15) in my hands when I was 17 years old. I hesitate to state the following, because I dont mean it to sound braggadocious or intimidating but I will to explain my position and why I feel I can give credible information.

                I shot competitively in the Marine Corps with both rifle and pistol (9mm Barretta) and have placed as high as 5th place in the Eastern Division Matches (open to shooters east of the Mississippi River) with a pistol. I would prefer an AR-15 over a pistol despite my expertise. I hold the military occupational specialty of both Scout/Sniper and Primary Marksmanship Instructor (held, I am no longer active).

                I am here to discuss, share and inform, not to 'bait', my friend.

                •  I'm glad you're more comfortable with an AR-15 (5+ / 0-)
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                  in your situation. Please note that your situation doesn't generalize as easy especially in the gub-phobic DK as you might think and many of us have different skill sets and preferences for self-defense. Your experience in the earlier diary does suggest a combative(sic) logic that should be tempered as I indicated earlier by more careful reasoning. Note that this serves as today's EOM for you and me

                  Warning - some snark above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ "We're like a strip club with a million bouncers and no strippers." (HBO's Real Time, January 18, 2013)

                  by annieli on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 01:01:14 PM PST

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                •  Could you add " listen" (3+ / 0-)
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                  And possibly "learn" to your list?

                  A lot of us want to see gun violence reduced, and are familiar with studies concerning guns.

                  If you have good ideas for reducing gun violence, great, please post a diary, I will read it with interest.

                  I think I am typical at DK in believing a civil discussion does require being open to opinions of others as well as being willing to learn and insisting on real facts, not anecdata.

                  We can safely abandon the doctrine of the eighties, namely that the rich were not working because they had too little money, the poor because they had too much. JK Galbraith, 1991

                  by Urban Owl on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 01:17:58 PM PST

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                •  our hero here should also remind everyone that (5+ / 0-)
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                  virtually nobody in the US is killed by a random stranger---the vast majority of murders happen to people who know their attacker.  So that AR-15 he wants you to wave around will, in all odds, be aimed at your boyfriend or husband or neighbor or co-worker, not at some random (probably nonwhite, the home defense fans usually assume) attacker.

                  Particularly since nearly every person who breaks into a house actually wants your TV set, not your life.

                  Me, I'd offer to help him carry the TV to his car.  There's nothing in my apartment worth anyone dying over--him or me.  Nothing.

                •  I've been shooting since I was 11 (1+ / 0-)
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                  At a target range I'd be happy to go up against anyone, shot for shot, any day of the week.

                  You are not the only one here who knows guns.  And many of us who know guns just as well as you do, are entirely in favor of restrictions and bannings.

                  The simple fact that you apparently don't care what happens to all the bullets from your AR-15 that go through the walls, tells me that (1) you aren't as much an expert as you think you are, and (2) your sense of humanity is really  underwhelming.

                  It is precisely because of people like you, that I think most people should not be allowed anywhere near a firearm.

                •  anyway, the AR-15 is plastic overpriced junk. (0+ / 0-)

                  If you really want a man-killer that is cheap, sturdy and reliable under all conditions, get an AK-47.

                •  You aren't pro-MY-individual liberties. (0+ / 0-)

                  You aren't informing anyone here of anything other than your ideology.

                  To put the torture behind us is, inevitably, to put it in front of us.

                  by UntimelyRippd on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 06:22:34 AM PST

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            •  Well (1+ / 0-)
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              You sound an awful lot like this is the philosophy of home defense you subscribe to:


          •  annieli: second the training (1+ / 0-)
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            Ought to apply to every firearm the user ever handles, IMO.
            Individual weapons are different, by design...

            LBJ, Lady Bird, Anne Richards, Barbara Jordan, Sully Sullenberger, Ike, Drew Brees, Molly Ivins --Texas is no Bush league! -7.50,-5.59

            by BlackSheep1 on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 02:23:01 PM PST

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        •  If only gun manufacturers & baby sling makers (4+ / 0-)
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          annieli, shanikka, colleen, BYw

          ...collaborated to add a space for the shotgun or an AR-15. The baby on her other hip is already crying and the the sound of firing won't last long. Synergy. All we need is synergy between makers of guns, baby slings and carriages and moms can breath easier. I wonder if anyone has tried mounting an AR-15 on the top of a baby swing...

          And I guess all those practices about storing guns unloaded in a locked safe away from children will have to be discarded.

          •  nah, the kid would have to wear ear protection (2+ / 0-)
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            kck, shanikka

            but the three-point sling could easily be modified.

            Warning - some snark above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ "We're like a strip club with a million bouncers and no strippers." (HBO's Real Time, January 18, 2013)

            by annieli on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 12:32:54 PM PST

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        •  who stops all those AR-15 bullets from (2+ / 0-)
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          shanikka, elfling

          going through the walls and killing the nextdoor neighbor?

          •  two words: (1+ / 0-)
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            Warning - some snark above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ "We're like a strip club with a million bouncers and no strippers." (HBO's Real Time, January 18, 2013)

            by annieli on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 12:39:55 PM PST

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            •  absolutely (4+ / 0-)
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              The "blast them with everything" kookers seem to forget that the shooter is responsible, legally as well as morally, for anything that any bullet that is fired does once it leaves the barrel.

              As I noted in another comment a few days ago, I lost most respect for the "home defense" nuts when I went to a gun-owners forum and asked if anyone had any experience firing frangible bullets in a Walther PPK (a pistol that is notoriously famous for jamming with many types of ammo), explaining that I didn't want any bullets to be able to go through my apartment wall and kill my neighbor. At least six people piped up that I shouldn't care what happens to my neighbors since they're probably criminals anyway.

              I bet Pete here thinks the same thing, right Pete?

          •  can you cite any examples... (0+ / 0-)

            of this happening in a home defense situation???

            •  dude, I've seen what AR-15 bullets do to walls (0+ / 0-)

              Don't be an ass.

            •  besides, can YOU cite any examples (0+ / 0-)

              of a mom using an AR-15 to defend against a group of intruders?

            •  Drywall does not stop bullets (0+ / 0-)
              WEST CHICAGO, IL, 1/21/13: A West Chicago man’s honesty and willingness to take responsibility for accidentally firing a pistol whose bullet went through the wall of his friend’s home and damaged a door across the street were factors in authorities’ decision not to seek felony charges. Other factors considered were the shooting was unintended — Studer did not know the gun was loaded when he pulled the trigger.
              (Seattle, 1/23) A man who was playing video games in a fourplex Tuesday night was hit in the back by a bullet that was shot from outside and went through the wall.

              A King County Sheriff’s Office spokesperson said the bullet traveled from the outside, through the laundry room and other walls before hitting the victim.

              NORWALK (9/14/12) -- A 48-year-old man was arrested Thursday after accidentally discharging a firearm in a Fair Street apartment complex and sending a bullet through his neighbor's wall, police said.
              (7/25/2011) HOUSTON – A 14-year-old boy was shot in the stomach as he slept in his bed early Monday morning, police said.
              It happened around 2 a.m. at the Gables apartments on Ocee at Pagewood.
              According to police, a neighbor’s gun accidentally fired as he was putting it away, and the bullet went through the wall into the boy’s room.
              The boy was rushed to the hospital, but police said he’s expected to survive.

              Fry, don't be a hero! It's not covered by our health plan!

              by elfling on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 09:48:16 PM PST

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        •  Please study works by Ayoob and the like (2+ / 0-)
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          annieli, shanikka

          If you ever consider adding a gun to your home security plan please learn why a rifle of any kind is a terrible idea.

          •  Dogs are fuzzy: not so much with the .22 (1+ / 0-)
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            if you get rat shot / bird shot shotshells for it. Much less penetration beyond the intended target. Also, bigger hole, generally speaking, in same than the rifle shell would produce...

            LBJ, Lady Bird, Anne Richards, Barbara Jordan, Sully Sullenberger, Ike, Drew Brees, Molly Ivins --Texas is no Bush league! -7.50,-5.59

            by BlackSheep1 on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 02:28:02 PM PST

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      •  Sounds like she is describing a new (1+ / 0-)
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        Hoover Vacuum cleaner doesn't it?   Just blows my mind.
        yeah.. every kid wants to remember Mama this way.

        We the People have to make a difference and the Change.....Just do it ! Be part of helping us build a veteran community online. United Veterans of America

        by Vetwife on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 12:29:12 PM PST

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      •  The gun-rights world has non-idiots. (1+ / 0-)
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        I know, I've talked with them.

        Why don't they ever put one up in front of a camera?

      •  So all you need to handle hardened, violent (2+ / 0-)
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        annieli, shanikka

        criminals--where is this woman living?--is a scary-looking weapon?

        I vote for a trebuchet.

        Freedom has two enemies: Those who want to control everyone around them...and those who feel no need to control themselves.

        by Sirenus on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 02:09:03 PM PST

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      •  for pure unadulterated peace of mind a pump (2+ / 0-)
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        annieli, greenbird

        shotgun would be the thing to have.

        I would not go with double-ought buck. I'd go with birdshot. You can put holes in more of the oncoming horde that way.

        LBJ, Lady Bird, Anne Richards, Barbara Jordan, Sully Sullenberger, Ike, Drew Brees, Molly Ivins --Texas is no Bush league! -7.50,-5.59

        by BlackSheep1 on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 02:21:33 PM PST

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        •  true dat (0+ / 0-)

          but you may want to actually stop them rather than let them be Cheney attorney-targets

          Warning - some snark above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ "We're like a strip club with a million bouncers and no strippers." (HBO's Real Time, January 18, 2013)

          by annieli on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 02:26:40 PM PST

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          •  birdshot between six and fifteen feet (2+ / 0-)
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            annieli, greenbird

            is apt to stop 'em pretty sudden-like. Further away than that, I've got room to run. Or at least pick my target.

            LBJ, Lady Bird, Anne Richards, Barbara Jordan, Sully Sullenberger, Ike, Drew Brees, Molly Ivins --Texas is no Bush league! -7.50,-5.59

            by BlackSheep1 on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 02:29:23 PM PST

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      •  Stastics show child 25% more likely to be shot if (0+ / 0-)

        guns are in the home.  Let's see 6 kids times 25% = 150% more likely one of her kids well be shot by someone living in the house.

    •  so, only those who can afford to live... (1+ / 0-)
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      Dogs are fuzzy

      in a better neighborhood deserve to live safely??? Do you think people live in dangerous neighborhoods through choice or from economic necessity?

    •  No Kidding - These People Live in Fantasy Land (2+ / 0-)
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      Minnesota Deb, darthstar

      They all think they are action heroes in a movie where they realize they are under fire when  dozens of rounds are fired at them but miraculously they avoid being hit, giving them ample time to take cover, and kill the bad guys. In real life, most people discover they are under fire when a bullet hits them and are probably seriously injured or dead before they have time to take stock of the situation.

      I studied a number of different styles of Martial Arts and Self Defense and still vividly recall my instructors demonstrations of what to do in the event somebody pulls a gun on you. Fall to the floor and beg for your life. Seriously, if someone pulls a gun on you and yours is not already trained on them and firing, you are SOL. That is the big piece of information all of these dumb asses with their concealed and open carry laws can't get through their non-existent brains. If someone has a gun out and yours is holstered, your gun is worthless unless you can get under cover before they shoot you. This is why the new is full of stories about who were shot even though they are a gun owner.

  •  DOE (7+ / 0-)
    The DOE wants to deregulate and actually sell 14,000 tons of radioactive scrap metal (both volumetrically and topically contaminated) from the nuclear war system — uranium enrichment, plutonium extraction, etc. — and “recycle” the waste to the commercial clean scrap metal industry. From there, according to the watchdog group Nuclear Information and Resource Service, the radioactive stuff “could be turned into anything from your next pants zipper to baby toys.”

    The DOE claims that potential radiation exposures to men, women and children would amount to a “negligible individual dose.” But anyone with a scrap of understanding of DOE and the Atomic Energy Commission knows not to believe a word of their assurances. The DOE famously said that rainwater would take thousands of years to seep through Yucca Mountain to a deep waste repository; it ran through the mountain in 40 years.

    If women ran the world, we wouldn't have wars...just intense negotiations every 28 days. ~ Robin Williams

    by anyname on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 11:43:49 AM PST

  •  Feminism kills (2+ / 0-)
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    Given all the feminism fear, I would like to recommend a Gail Collins articles from last week.

    In terms of getting laid, I have often see two camps of men.  Those that just want to jack off into some women vagina, and those who want to, not necessarily make love, but at least try to make something a little more meaningful than masturbation.  Those who count i tend to think are the former group.

    I have also thought about all these poor suburban, no exbur, women who are left home all alone all day with their little kids, no defense except for ar-15 strapped to their sides while watching reality tv.  I imagine that if I were a criminal, and wanted to rob such a house, instead of the empty house next door, it might behoove me to shoot first to compensate for the possibility of a armed women.  After all, if I am a crazed criminal, and stupid for robbing an occupied house, killing someone would not be such a stretch.  And if rape is on the mind of such a person, raping an injured women may not be so bad.

  •  I saw that natural born killer in action (3+ / 0-)
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    We had a problem with strays and I noticed that the chipmunks had disappeared. The problem disappeared (3 former strays now live with me) and the chipmunks returned. But we have one cat that has roamed the neighborhood for years. This summer i was stepping off my deck when zoom here comes this cat and grabs a chipmunk just as it was about to escape under the deck. He was amazingly quick.

    The only thing I can figure with the chipmunk population is that they disappeared when we had a lot of strays and they've returned now- actually they are overpopulated and I have chipmunk holes all over.

  •  Along with my Free Compliment (4+ / 0-)

    I also want a pony.

    The number to call is BR-549.

    by lotac on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 11:46:10 AM PST

  •  There's no such things as "Theoretical Mathematics (0+ / 0-)

    The antonym of "Applied Mathematics" is "Pure Mathematics".  All mathematics is theoretical; that's where the word "theorem" comes from.

    Hey, great job recognizing that someone would feel like a dork after giving or attending a presentation in theoretical mathematics!

  •  Marvelous killing machines. (8+ / 0-)

    I grew up next to a large, natural field.  We always had indoor/outdoor cats.  We never, ever, had rodent problems.

    Well, we did get visits from skunks from time to time.  The cats would monitor them from the trees.

    Create. Build. Serve. Encourage. Teach.

    by algebrateacher on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 11:49:42 AM PST

  •  Carly F vs Krugman (14+ / 0-)

    Paul Krugman Destroys GOP’s Talking Points On Government Jobs

    On Sunday, economist Paul Krugman hit back against GOP claims that public sector employment has increased under Obama, and that such jobs consist mainly of wasteful bureaucrats and somehow count less economically than private sector ones. Back in September it was tea party Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) toeing that line, and this morning it was former Republican gubernatorial candidate Carly Fiorina.

    The exchange commenced immediately after Krugman made the point that, had government employment in the current recovery followed the same path it followed under previous recessions in the Bush and Reagan years, unemployment now would be slightly above 6 percent:

       CARLY FIORINA: I think it’s important to remember, when we talk about the economy, that a private sector job and a public sector job are not the same things. They’re not equivalent. I’m not saying public sector jobs aren’t important. But a private sector job pays for itself. A private sector job creates other jobs. A public sector job is paid for by taxpayers. [...]

        PAUL KRUGMAN: But when we say public sector jobs, it is not a bureaucrat in Washington, D.C.

        FIORINA: Oh, it is, actually.

        KRUGMAN: When we talk about public sector jobs — when we look at the ones that have been lost in large numbers in this — it’s basically school teachers. Don’t think about bureaucrats. It’s school teachers. What we’ve laid off hundreds of thousands of school teachers.

        And when we talk about the cuts in public spending that have happened, they are not, you know, some god awful who knows what. It’s actually public investment. It’s largely fixing potholes and repairing bridges.

        So, you know, you have this image of these wasteful bureaucrats doing god knows what. What we’ve seen is an incredible drought of basic infrastructure, and laying off hundreds of thousands of school teachers.

        FIORINA: It is a fact that virtually every department in every organization in Washington, D.C. has seen its budget increase for the last 40 years. That money is being paid to hire people. The number of people who are — of course there are some teachers…

        KRUGMAN: The vast bulk of public sector employees are at the state and local level. They are largely school teachers plus police officers plus firefighters. And your notion that it’s all these bureaucrats — that’s a myth that’s used…

        FIORINA: It’s not a myth, it’s a fact. It’s not a myth, it’s a fact. We don’t have enough private escort job creation.

    Keeping in mind Carly was responsible for the HP-Compaq merger that was executed with all the finesse of slamming a Ferrari and Lamborghini into each other head on at 200 MPH then picking through the wreckage.

    I want 1 less Tiny Coffin, Why Don't You? Support The President's Gun Violence Plan.

    by JML9999 on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 11:50:16 AM PST

  •  Is the AR-15 the weapon of choice... (8+ / 0-)

    ...for a woman facing a single attacker known to her, such as her husband or boyfriend?  Just asking.

    Create. Build. Serve. Encourage. Teach.

    by algebrateacher on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 11:52:17 AM PST

  •  Not all wildlife is made up of (5+ / 0-)

    beautiful birds.  My cat is doing a remarkable job of keeping my garden free of voles.  Since voles have voracious appetites for vegetables (especially broccoli), reach reproductive maturity in 3 weeks, bear about a zillion babies every 3 weeks, I doubt they are at risk of extinction.  I appreciate my cats activities even tho it a the red in tooth and claw variety.  I also appreciate that lady bugs each the aphids.  Balance.

    I was wise enough to never grow up while fooling most people into believing I had. - Margaret Mead

    by fayea on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 11:55:05 AM PST

    •  My neighbor got a cute little Jack Russell, Wags (2+ / 0-)
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      I love the little shit, but he keeps the feral colony that I feed out of her yard. Within months she had mice literally eating through her walls. One fell down her stove vent right in front of her. Before Wags she never saw a mouse.

      We are surrounded by open fields, the mice move in as soon as it starts to chill off and they are costly to get rid of. Almost impossible to seal off everything, especially in a trailer. Her Pootie just thinks we should all get along, she needs some of my killing machines.

      "The scientific nature of the ordinary man is to go on out and do the best you can." John Prine

      by high uintas on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 12:13:34 PM PST

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      •  Please read the study. (2+ / 0-)
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        high uintas, bgblcklab1

        Your feral colony is bad for birds and other wildlife.

        We can safely abandon the doctrine of the eighties, namely that the rich were not working because they had too little money, the poor because they had too much. JK Galbraith, 1991

        by Urban Owl on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 12:43:37 PM PST

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        •  I read the study (4+ / 0-)
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          annieli, BlackSheep1, sharman, BYw

          The other wildlife we are talking about here are gophers, voles and snakes. They do get a few birds I admit, and I hate that but so do the crows that are here and right now the biggest threat to our bird population is mourning doves. We are over-run with them.

          I have never seen so many in all the time I've been here. They are driving out the red wings and even the starlings. I have no idea what has caused this boom, we have been here for 23yrs with a fairly stable feral cat colony, so they aren't causing a change.

          I don't feed birds, I leave that to neighbors who are far enough away that it isn't really worth it for the cats, besides my cats average a vole or gopher a day in the summer. Mice? I don't see them.

          We don't have squirrels or quail here, never have in this side of town. Too many bigger predators, coyotes and the red fox that lives in the next field over. We have skunks and raccoons who have wintered over in our yard as well.

          Since you are into owls we have a resident Barn Owl that has been here for years but we are just too urban for burrowing owls. I know where some are, but they are in the next valley over.

          "The scientific nature of the ordinary man is to go on out and do the best you can." John Prine

          by high uintas on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 01:26:34 PM PST

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          •  Barn owls eat plenty of mice! (1+ / 0-)
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            high uintas

            Mourning doves, hmm, maybe a climate change effect, a lot of their habitat is hotter and drier now.

            Perhaps you could consider keeping cats inside more during migrating season? Your avian regulars are probably cat-shy, but visitors might not be.

            I do think the suburban sprawl and their cats are more of a problem than areas that have been rural for a long time. There have been a lot of houses built into farmland and forest over the past few decades, so impacts on wildlife haves soared.

            It seems to me that with the changing climate, a lot of stressed species are a lot closer to the edge now. We don't see a species go extinct, it's sort of like drought, a slow emergency.

            It just seems to me that a feral cat colony is, as any invasive species, just one more stress on the local ecology.

            We can safely abandon the doctrine of the eighties, namely that the rich were not working because they had too little money, the poor because they had too much. JK Galbraith, 1991

            by Urban Owl on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 02:19:17 PM PST

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            •  I do understand what you are saying (1+ / 0-)
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              Urban Owl

              I live on a corner, windy road with fields behind me. The amount of drop off animals is unbelievable. We are stressed with trap/spay/neuter programs and working to adopt as many out as we can.

              It is a never ending and growing issue. My heart will not let me ignore the colony that was here when I came and will be here when I die, once a colony establishes it's there is almost always one. Still, with the t/s/n work I end up with more. It's very hard to handle.

              My indoor cats are always indoors, I am talking about real ferals who I can't touch or pet, who barely trust me to feed them. We are in the middle of a very tough winter here, there will be losses, I can't keep the stress off them even with all I do. Still there will be more, there always is.

              In Europe they have been using a contraceptive for cats for years. We claim it isn't safe and won't allow it's use here, only for people who raise pedigreed cats and want to control estrus. I don't know how safe it is, but it can't be worse than litter after litter. Sometimes I just don't know what to think.

              "The scientific nature of the ordinary man is to go on out and do the best you can." John Prine

              by high uintas on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 09:57:03 PM PST

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    •  Cats belong inside, period. (2+ / 0-)
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      JeffW, bgblcklab1

      So much wrong with your post, it's hard to even begin.

      •  Aparently you hold that opinion (0+ / 0-)

        strongly.  And I respect that.  However, my opinion is quite different.  I love to be out in nature, out in the garden.  I can tell my cat also loves being outside a lot of the time.  He also loves to be on the couch sleeping for great periods of time.  To me, being kept inside a building all the time would be like a prison.  I am fortunate to live where an outside cat is safe.  I have had cats live as indoor-outdoor at will and reaching a ripe old age of 20.  

        I was wise enough to never grow up while fooling most people into believing I had. - Margaret Mead

        by fayea on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 12:48:22 PM PST

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        •  My attitude on outside cats... (2+ / 0-)
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          badscience, arch

 the same as with outside dogs, ferrets, gerbils or any other kind of pet. If it is outside it needs to be under the control of the owner. Period. This may mean confinement (there are some real nice outside cat confinements I have seen), leash, voice command or anything else. Your pet is not not a wild animal and should not intrude on the native ecosystem or neighbors.

          I have always thought that people that just open the door and let their cat(or dog) run wild all day really show little regard for the well being of the pet. They really don't demonstrate care that the pet ever comes back.

          My humble opinion

          (And yes, I have had cats, 4 over the last 20 years and a total of 6 dogs as well)

          •  I think this is also the way the law sees this. (2+ / 0-)
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            arch, bgblcklab1

            I don't want cats or dogs crapping in my vegetable garden.

            I don't want my cat infected with a disease from being outdoors unsupervised.

            I don't want my cat hit by a vehicle because it is outdoors unsupervised.

            Catios and leashes are great options for cats and they can be trained to use them. I think many people feel that their cat suffers if it isn't outdoors free-range, but the reality is that the cat does suffer if let outdoors free-range (statistically speaking. There are always exceptions).

            In a less enlightened time, I had two cats growing up. They were both free-range indoor/outdoor. One lived to be 21. The other ate a poisoned rat and died. My heart broke that day and it has never quite healed.

            My current cat rules the inside of our house. End of story.

  •  If your daughters want strong female inspiration (5+ / 0-)
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    eeff, shanikka, high uintas, a2nite, greenbird

    from the animal world, they should look no further than budgies. Female budgies lead their flocks in the wild. They are very, very active (models for exercise); they don't give up when they find something they like (boy, do they English can "play" with a cage door for up to thirty minutes at a time...bang bang bang bang SHUT UP BIRD!); and they don't take crap from budgie males, or anyone, really. My budges can (and have) back down cockatiels three times their size, and their male SPARKS gets taken down regularly.

    Small, but deadly.

    Bruce Does Not Understand Physics by *Windthin on deviantART

    Vinnie and the Budgies by ~Windthin on deviantART

  •  Beyonce - gate (0+ / 0-)
    I swear, when it comes to hating on Black women singing the National Anthem, prerecorded or not, I swear it's Déjà vu.
    Hey - wait just a minute here.

    My two favorite live versions of the national anthem are:
    1. Jimi Hendrix at WoodStock
    2. Whitney Houston at the 1991 Superbowl
    Jeeze - Whitney's still gives me chills.

    My favorite halftime performance was U2 just a few months after the destruction of the Twin Towers in 2001. The song "Streets Have No Name"
    That one almost brings me to tears.

    And the one thing they all had in common was that, when it counted, when it all was on the line - they brought the goods.
    THAT'S a pro. That's REAL talent.

  •  Hey Shanikka!! (2+ / 0-)
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    Great stuff as always. Hope you're doing well.

  •  Re the housework study (5+ / 0-)

    Echidne observed that every single media popularization of the study took the same angle:  "Men, if you want more sex, do fewer household chores!"  Not one tried, "Women, if you want more sex do more household chores!"  Leaving aside the obvious (Husbands tend to do more household chores when both spouses work full-time outside the home, hence more likely that one or both will be tired) - it's just amazing that none of the media blatherers considered the possibility that women might want  sex.

    I shall die, but that is all that I shall do for Death; I am not on his payroll. - Edna St. Vincent Millay

    by Tara the Antisocial Social Worker on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 11:57:47 AM PST

    •  The Actual Study (4+ / 0-)

      Showed that all those men "not getting laid" were on average doing less than 30% of the "core labor" to run a household.  So women are still doing the overwhelming bulk of the work anyway.

      Maybe it's just that men get tuckered out doing less of it /ewg

    •  Because if women wanted sex ... (0+ / 0-)

      ... they would be having sex!  Women exist in an environment of excess male sexual opportunity - that is why they can afford to be much more selective - another opportunity is just around the corner.  

      Look, I am saying this partially in jest, but I would not be surprised if current data would confirm this finding.  The feminism of my younger years was all about finding reasons NOT to have sex - because sex was seen as the ultimate physical manifestation of the patriarchical oppression of the female blahblahlah....  Mind you, this was before Ally McBeal and Sex and the City.  Those angry feminists got the message half right - if you want to abolish bad male behavior then STOP HAVING SEX WITH MEN WHO BEHAVE BADLY.  The message that they left out was that if you want to see more good male behavior THEN HAVE A LOT MORE SEX WITH MEN WHO ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING!

      Alas, it will never happen.  Feminism is an intellectual framework and sexual attraction is decidedly non-intellectual.  

      Please do not be alarmed. We are about to engage... the nozzle.

      by Terrapin on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 02:29:51 PM PST

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  •  Don't blame the Pooties! (10+ / 0-)

    They were out of their minds at the time.

    From Sundance this year, Catnip: Egress to Oblivion

    "The scientific nature of the ordinary man is to go on out and do the best you can." John Prine

    by high uintas on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 12:00:51 PM PST

  •  No Need to be Dramatic Bout Chores n Sex (1+ / 0-)
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    findings with the talk about the bone fatiguing work that keeping a house is. It doesn't quantify just how much the hubby did, but there are plenty of other plausible reasons to explain the diminished sexy time. If the hubby is helping out of necessity and not out of desire to help, they both have less time on their hands. Also, a household where the men assume only MANLY duties and the women aspire to be domestic goddesses in matching oven mitts are either economically privileged or may be one that believes the woman's primary job is to make babies.

    It's that correlation and causation thing again... Now if you're excuse me, I'm gonna go tell my wife I'm changing the motor oil in her car... even though it doesn't need changing.

    •  It is Bone-Fatiguing (2+ / 0-)
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      Especially when also needing to raise kids.  Which is why I sought refuge in an office first chance I got.  

      We agree, though, that there are lots of obvious reasons that the men in the study might be having less marital sex than just "men who do housework aren't sexy!"

    •  It is bone-fatiguing ... (0+ / 0-)

      ... which is why this finding is less about sex and more about sex-initiation.  If the male is doing more chores then it simply does not matter whether he is reducing the workload of the female or not - overall levels of sex will decline because the female does not initiate sex enough to make up for the lost initiation from the male.  So, where is the incentive to help with chores?

      Please do not be alarmed. We are about to engage... the nozzle.

      by Terrapin on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 02:37:11 PM PST

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  •  Cat comments unscientific! (2+ / 0-)
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    Cats do enormous damage to native species--not a joking matter. We have artificially increased the cat population, and then allow them to roam free part of each day. Some allowed to become feral. This isn't nature, it's even more an aberration than the pythons in the Everglades.

    Love your cats--and keep them inside. They aren't native species and have no business hunting in modern suburbs.

    •  We're not all in the suburbs. (6+ / 0-)

      Outdoor cats have an important role on the farm.  Vermin are real and a health threat.  I would rather have a cat or two than deal with poison to keep rodent populations down.  

      I was wise enough to never grow up while fooling most people into believing I had. - Margaret Mead

      by fayea on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 12:10:39 PM PST

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      •  I do understand that but (0+ / 0-)

        there are many other native animals that serve the same purpose. Breeding cats to do what other small predators should be doing isn't natural. Minks, ferrets, fox, snakes...many other species, depending on your location.

        You also have the big problem of toxoplasmosis, a disease brought into the home when cats hunt outside. It is not insignificant.

        Cats are a lot like whitetail deer--way, way more than the environment could reasonably handle, due to human intervention.

        •  WTF? Breed minks? (0+ / 0-)

          I agree with your take on cats even though I am a violator, but no way in hell should one release mink or ferrets if you are concerned about birds.    Cats are better, because it is at least possible to control or eradicate a cat population.  

    •  my best cat always loved going out (1+ / 0-)
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      when it was raining: not a downpour, more like heavy mist (and i'm a bird, but could never understand) and mostly in temperate weather. could have been the memory of having been saved as an eyes-yet-open tossed-in-a-yard unwanted (and VERY loud) tuxedo, followed by a gentle clean-up in the bathroom sink, and undiluted infant animal formula from a toy/doll bottle, followed by warming up/drying off by amazingly motherly mutt (named Mutt) ...

      so it was permitted. overheard lots of territorial bickering with a feral tom, never saw inkling of urge to ... no, wait, there were some "mouse-leg" offerings, presented with radiant loving pride ... not many, rarely done ... i should have simply purchased a fine-mist spray bottle to use on those days, with nice warm water, and learned you to like being combed. (brushes pull knots.)

      until the sudden seizures, flopping and flailing like trophy salmon, sick but what is it ??!! ? ... then dead best cat. unvaccinated. if not pre-vaccine.

      feline immunodeficiency virus. how! so suddenly! so hidden! so long... i miss you every day, little best cat, and hope you forgave me. i was stupid, not careless but a wuss. we shared a lot, you're not forgot, but there will not be a one like you.

      feral tom was probably a carrier ...

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      by greenbird on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 02:29:46 PM PST

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      •  Don't get me wrong. LOVE cats. (0+ / 0-)

        But domestic cats belong inside, not outside hunting and bringing back toxoplasmosis and a host of other parasites along with their "offerings."

        Domestic cats have been bred to be our companions (in their own way) for four thousand years. Love them, protect them, just don't dump them on the environment.

  •  I am afraid there will be a day when birds (3+ / 0-)
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    are something of the past. Although I can remember affectionately observing an urban feral cat colony where I once lived, with an incredibly fecund mama cat (who seemed to ascend my  back stairway with regularity to announce "Knocked up again!), the bird population is under incredible stress. Even from other birds, like cowbirds.

    Now, having lived in the same place for 5 years, I have seen the diversity of birds diminish greatly to crow dominance.

    •  it's why I like that crows in (0+ / 0-)

      some hunting venues are defined as all-season targets since I am uninterested in larger terrestrial game that are not a range management issue

      Warning - some snark above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ "We're like a strip club with a million bouncers and no strippers." (HBO's Real Time, January 18, 2013)

      by annieli on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 03:02:58 PM PST

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  •  Poison pills in immigration law (2+ / 0-)
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    a2nite, shanikka

    There were poison pills in the ACA--like the requirement for solvency in long term care insurance that could never have been met. This proposal seems to have at least two as well; requirement that (GOP) border governors approve steps, and the obvious slow walk implied in "go to the back of the line." Both could be fixed. Governors' panel could be advisory, only, and data-driven. And funding MUST be put in to speed up the entire process of citizenship for everyone.

  •  Hey Shannika! (2+ / 0-)
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    shanikka, Lady Libertine

    Whut up? Well, since sadly I got permanently laid off last week and therefore don't have any workplace to go to anymore, I had plenty of time to dive into the newer, American remake of "House of Cards" starring Kevin Spacey on Netflix.

    I plowed through 5 episodes yesterday (like I said, I had unwelcome time on my hands), and as someone who loved the original "House of Cards", I can definitely give this one a thumbs-up, too. I think politi-nerds will especially enjoy the depiction of how the sausage gets made and how current some details are, such as the battle over collective bargaining rights for public employee unions.

    So for those of you who can afford Netflix because you still have a job, some other income, or haven't been out of a job long enough to have to cut down to the bare essentials, I say check it out. Good times.

    If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - David Rees from "Get Your War On". //"Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest." - Denis Diderot

    by Oaktown Girl on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 12:08:33 PM PST

  •  So we paid money to learn that cats kill things? (3+ / 0-)
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    Perhaps Republicans do have a point about some government spending after all.

    "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

    by zenbassoon on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 12:12:36 PM PST

  •  Bunnies are as bad or worse for the ecology (7+ / 0-)

    Just ask Australia.   Of course man still tops either bunnies or kitties in the list of creatures that Mother Nature probably regrets...

    Outside kitties do kill a lot of wildlife, even wildlife that you don't see.   Some are more proficient at it than others.   They say that feral cats kill 128 to 339 "tiny creatures" a year (I assume they mean mice) but that estimate is laughably low.   My outside cat averages at least four mice a day, and that is just what he brings up from the field or what we see him catching.    He also eats squirrels and rabbits (it is amazing to see a cat eat a large rabbit, you wouldn't think the head would fit but nature has a solution that I will spare you...)

    I will say that your perspective of the tragedy of cats killing mice and rats changes when you find that the rats have made a nest out of your motorcycle seat and pissed over all of the off cuts of expensive wood that you were saving for future projects.

    Yes, yes, I know.   We live in a tiny house on a very large property.   We were adopted by a stray outside cat and when he passed on we took in two more from the shelter.   Support local spay and neuter programs; Orcas had a huge feral cat problem from some people back in the 70's who thought it unnatural to "fix" cats.   Over the years with a concentrated trap/spay/release program it has gotten to the point that our local shelter imports kitties from other shelters and there are much fewer reports of feral cats.

    So my take: get your cat spayed and never, ever buy a pet bunny.  

    •  rabbits aren't native to Australia though (1+ / 0-)
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      I think that's a big difference.

      "Let's do this!" - Leeroy Jenkins

      by AaronInSanDiego on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 01:55:29 PM PST

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      •  neither are cats, and they are as big a problem (2+ / 0-)
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        From the Australian Government:

        The feral cat is found in nearly all habitats across Australia. It has caused the extinction of some species
        on islands and has contributed to the disappearance of many ground-dwelling birds and mammals on the
        mainland. Feral cat control is feasible on islands, but elsewhere, management is difficult due to the lack of
        effective and humane broad-scale control techniques, and the presence of domestic cats.
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      •  Same problem here as there -- lack of predators (0+ / 0-)

        which is an imbalance that my cat is working to solve.  

        Give this some serious thought.   There isn't a magic property to animals that make some automatically OK and some not.  Deer are native to Orcas Island but there are way too many of them (for a healthy ecology) with more each year.    We have disrupted the natural ecology by removing our main carnivore competitors -- wolves, bears, cougar.    The best ecological solution is not palatable; how many kids do we want to sacrifice to cougars in order to keep the deer population down?

        For an experiment in overgrazing, look at Spiden Island. (    It is the one island that stands out as you boat around, because it has almost no trees!    It looks like it belongs in Baja Mexico rather than the verdent San Juans.    Was it logged?   No, some jerk in the 20's brought in african game animals to shoot, there was an outcry and the hunting was stopped but the animals remain.   Without predators everything has been overgrazed, new trees cannot get started.  

        I have often told my wife that we should sneak a few cougars across some dark night, problem is how to catch one.

  •  In the annals of stupid punditry (3+ / 0-)
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    "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

    by zenbassoon on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 12:13:27 PM PST

  •  Thanks shanikka nt (1+ / 0-)
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  •  Black history month is for children. (0+ / 0-)

    It celebrates Black heroes and the Civil Rights movement, as well as people who did nice things. This is a good idea. I have nothing against it.

    However by Denise Oliver Velez wrote a diary, in which she suggested that we expand it to include people worldwide, and listed two people who weren't exactly heroes. One took over in a coup and was later executed, and another was a rebel who declared himself president and controlled some territory for a few months.

    I looked up the links provided and found these people were not the kind of people who one would look up to, so I demurred and suggested that If we were going to start celebrating those foreigners who were not good people (although one freed the slaves before he declared himself absolute dictator, was deposed and executed), then we should discuss everything to do with African history, including Black control of the slave trade.

    My comments were censored and I was given a shellacking. One of the people who attacked me was for being simplistic about history and not understanding the complexities. Which is bullshit. I understand the complexities perfectly well.

    Black history month is for children. It's supposed to celebrate Black heroes. There's nothing wrong with that. So let's keep it that way because I don't think that it would be good to ruin it with foreign despots, especially failed ones.

  •  Cudo's to the Ladies and their AR-15's (0+ / 0-)

    There is so much fear of so-called "Assault Weapons" (what the he!! is an assault weapons but a semi-automatic rifle that people who are unfamiliar with weapons think look scary?).

    While I might recommend a shotgun for home defense, gun laws have actually made the AR-15 a much better choice. See, the gun laws are such that you can only have three shells in a shotgun and then must reload (if you are a law-abiding citizen) and reloading a shotgun quickly is quite difficult without a great deal of practice. But perhaps this is only for hunting and does not apply to home defense - I've not researched this in any other respect than the hunting laws.

    Be that as it may, for one of smaller stature, an AR-15 has lower recoil, the ability to acquire targets quickly and the ability to fire multiple rounds in one's defense quickly without having to reload. And reloading is very quick, with a little practice if necessary. This makes it a very appropriate weapon for all sorts of legitimate uses, including defense for the ladies (as well as men, but particularly for the ladies).

    I can only think that it is unfamiliarity with weapons that causes this irrational fear of an effective tool.

  •  Beyonce shut everyone up at the press conference. (4+ / 0-)
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    a2nite, shanikka, annieli, BlackSheep1

    "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

    by zenbassoon on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 12:16:16 PM PST

  •  Clearly the MSM has nothing else to cover, like (3+ / 0-)
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    JeffW, Capt Crunch, shanikka

    continuing long term unemployment, the rotten RW ginning for another war, our economy continuing to suck, gun violence as a public health issue and not a sensational bit of theatre; global climate change, oops, can't mention the globe and Americans helping with environmental problems 'cause the UN will come in with their scary black helecopters and take our freedomz.

    Nope, they care about a massive commercial called the super bowl and if Beyonce is going to sing live or by Memorex.

    No wonder we are confused. The 1% are doing this on purpose.

  •  Gayle Trotter needs to be fired for trotting out (4+ / 0-)
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    the ridiculous claim that she "speaks for millions of women" who are clamoring for a machine gun as their tool of choice for smacking down the hordes of armed criminals who apparently invade the average suburban home on a daily basis. One can argue with the inaccuracy of her claims about "machine gun mamma" using the ol' AR 15 to beat back a home invasion while her "babies are crying in the background," but nobody can argue with the fact she does NOT speak for millions of women. Nobody elected her to speak for them, nor are there millions of situations like she described. That kind of lie crosses all ethical boundaries, and should end the career of any people who engage in such mendacity, if the organizations they work for have any integrity (which Ms. Trotter's organization probably does not).

    Just doing my part to piss off right wing nuts, one smart ass comment at a time.

    by tekno2600 on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 12:28:01 PM PST

    •  more irrational fear borne of ignorance (2+ / 0-)
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      Dogs are fuzzy, BlackSheep1

      An AR-15 is not a "machine gun". The fear mongering anti-gun propaganda machine we call the "mainstream media" teaches those ignorant of firearms that it is so your ignorance (this is not an insult and I dont mean it as such) is understandable.

      •  the military-issue M-4 is not a "machine gun" (2+ / 0-)
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        So what?

      •  Bull. Shit! You can bump fire an AR-15 and make it (1+ / 0-)
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        operate like a fully automatic weapon, without any modification (see below)...and if the goal is to educate people about guns, the last thing we need is to be lectured by nitpicking know-it-alls--who apparently don't really know it all--over what is or is not a machine gun (especially when I used the term "machine gun mamma" in a humorous way).

        Just doing my part to piss off right wing nuts, one smart ass comment at a time.

        by tekno2600 on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 02:36:19 PM PST

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        •  and this is an easy technology /product to ban (1+ / 0-)
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          since it's an aftermarket item only possible in a GOP controlled post-ban world. Therefore folks so inclined should write the BATF and their Congresscritters

          Warning - some snark above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ "We're like a strip club with a million bouncers and no strippers." (HBO's Real Time, January 18, 2013)

          by annieli on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 02:56:24 PM PST

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          •  Yes. When gun nuts claim assault rifles are just (1+ / 0-)
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            like any other semiautomatic rifle, they know they are full of shit and they just hope that somehow the public won't notice it. So, they spread misinformation and claim they are "educating" us.

            Just doing my part to piss off right wing nuts, one smart ass comment at a time.

            by tekno2600 on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 02:59:56 PM PST

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        •  back in my younger days, I recall seeing ads (1+ / 0-)
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          for little spring attachments that fit on the trigger and allowed a three-round burst mode.

          I think those were later reclassified as "full-auto" and regulated.

          Of course if your goal is to shoot, maim and kill as many people as possible, semi-auto is the way to go.  One shot per person is usually enough at ten foot range.  

          •  Yep. Finding a recoil spring is not difficult. (0+ / 0-)

            These guns can be easily modified.

            Now, most gun nuts who talk about this stuff do not necessarily plan to use their guns for anything malicious. They just have ridiculous fantasies about how they are defending themselves from the terrible tyranny of the government. However, as I always point out to them, these types of guns are what the military calls "small arms." If the government wanted to come get you, they'd use heavy weaponry: Swat teams with armored vehicles, etc. In an actual combat situation, they'd have even heavier weapons: Air power, helicopters, drones, artillery, etc. In other words, your bullshit little gun wouldn't give you a snowball's chance in hell of standing up against the government...except to make them mad and give them a reason to shoot you.

            Just doing my part to piss off right wing nuts, one smart ass comment at a time.

            by tekno2600 on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 06:02:07 PM PST

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    •  She's paid to lie like a RW lobbyist is. I didn't (3+ / 0-)
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      Watch but did someone call her out or they couldn't or didn't because she's a RW woman and couldn't be challenged. IOKIYARWliar.

  •  When you turn 666 upside down you get (2+ / 0-)
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    "Senators are a never-ending source of amusement, amazement, and discouragement" ~ Will Rogers

    by Lefty Coaster on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 12:36:28 PM PST

  •  Streaming MSNBC? (1+ / 0-)
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    I would like to be able to stream MSNBC. Right now, I record Rachel on TIVO, but would like to dump Tivo. My iPhone 5 doesn't connect to TV directly (unlike the iPhone 4, which did). Ya gotta have Appletv.

    Does anyone know what I would use to stream MSNBC? The full Rachel show? Roku? Appletv? Blu-Ray?

    If you hate government, don't run for office in that government.

    by Bensdad on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 12:42:29 PM PST

    •  youre way ahead of me (1+ / 0-)
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      I dont have any iAnythings so whaddo I know, but look at WD TV Live also.

      we just finally broke down and got an HDTV after years of resisting. Im in tech hell but my husband is having a blast.

      If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution. ~ Emma Goldman

      by Lady Libertine on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 01:06:32 PM PST

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    •  Get an Apple TV with airplay (1+ / 0-)
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      You can't get live MSNBC anymore that I can find (used to be on rockinrooster) but get the MSNBC app and and Apple TV.   IIRC Rachel has her own app on the appstore.    You can also watch Brian Williams if you are so inclined.

      Seriously, the coolest $100 I have spent in a long time and I am not by any means an Apple fanboy, having made my living working for the competition.    The Apple TV is freaking magical, especially for somebody like me who does not have cable.    PBS has an app, we were watching Downton Abbey in full HD without a cable subscription, whenever we wanted and with the ability to pause and rewind.

      I also use the same Apple TV to stream music through the house's in-ceiling speakers -- it happens to come with both HDMI and optical output so I have HDMI into the TV and Optical-Coax-A/D converter to my old amplifier that is hooked up to the speakers.     We then stream sirius and audiobooks throughout the house.    (Don't tell apple or they will probably disable dual output so you have to buy two of the boxes...)

      Used to be that a house that you could walk around with a little device playing music and video wherever you wanted would cost over a million if it was even possible.

      The only downside is Apple's silly hatred of flash, so a lot of apps that should work don't.   My wife is after me to get a MacBook air so we can stream those to our TV.

      •  Oh thank you for that! (0+ / 0-)

        You lost me at Optical-Coax-A/D converter, but it sounds like something I need as my house came with speakers in the ceiling and I have no idea what to do with them (don't have an amplifier with old-fashioned speaker wire connectons or any amplifier in the house right now). I'll use the google so I can figure out what an optical-coax thingy is!

        If I can get Rachel on Appletv, then I'm good! I know I can download her video podcast to my Iphone 5 but it is too small to watch her on.

        If you hate government, don't run for office in that government.

        by Bensdad on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 02:10:49 PM PST

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        •  Most modern amps can connect digitally to Apple TV (1+ / 0-)
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          (with the exception of extremely cheap or insanely expensive ons).   Look for digital input (TOSLINK they call it.)    

          In my case I have an older amp (1990s Carver) that is quite good but has no digital input.     It required a converter box to make an analog amplifier work with a digital signal, but I was also able to take advantage of the fact that digital signals can be sent a long way with little loss, so I put the amp for the house speakers on the first floor while having the apple TV live next to the tv set on the second floor.   They were connected through our cable wiring in the house, which since we don't have cable is just wasted copper otherwise.

  •  I hear there's a football game today or something (3+ / 0-)
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    I'm not a sports fan.  I'll just drink beer and watch the commercials.  :)

  •  So this is what those 'feminine protection' ads (3+ / 0-)
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    Have been about all these years?? I never knew!!


    New Arizona State Motto; "Yeah, but it's a dry hate!"

    by Fordmandalay on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 12:56:17 PM PST

  •  Ive been wondering something (1+ / 0-)
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    and I wanted to see if anyone had any thoughts.

    Why do you think it is that the republicans dispute events that were recorded? Like, claiming we're being deceitful about what someone said, even after having been shown the video of that person saying that thing.

    Do they truly think its not the case, despite the video evidence? Do they not care, assuming everything is a lie? Is it done through active malice?

    because something is seriously disrupting objective reality to these people, and I cant figure out what could do that on such a large scale.

    The only Bug-type Pokemon that can learn the move Fly - Volcarona and Genesect - Are not Flying types.

    by kamrom on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 01:11:47 PM PST

    •  because they know most people are pig-ignorant (0+ / 0-)

      and know absolutely nothing at all about any topic whatsoever.

      And therefore will believe whatever they hear the most often.

    •  Taking Advantage of Human Psychology (0+ / 0-)

      People have a very hard time ascribing negative traits to those who communicate with us from positions of authority (authority we've given them) in our culture.  They have a hard time doing so even with folks they are familiar with.  Use of propaganda techniques such as steadfast denial of known reality works well to trigger both reactions in many people; they would rather believe that there must be something wrong with "reality" than believe they are being played by someone they trust.  Even when the evidence of reality is playing right on the video screen in front of their face.

      Newspeak. It isn't just for 1984 anymore.

  •  What is it Gayle Trotter, the NRA and commonmass (2+ / 0-)
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    agree on? Assault weapons are scary. Especially when toted by five armed men bursting into a single mother's house while her children scream in the background. Because usually, when this happens, it's actually a government agency doing it. These people are very squirrley. And they know it.

    What is truth? -- Pontius Pilate

    by commonmass on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 01:19:36 PM PST

    •  and when that situation comes where the (2+ / 0-)
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      government agencies do it routinely regardless of class or ethnicity, we'll all need more than small arms - it's more likely and more effective to burst into our homes/lives electronically anyway

      Warning - some snark above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ "We're like a strip club with a million bouncers and no strippers." (HBO's Real Time, January 18, 2013)

      by annieli on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 01:23:43 PM PST

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    •  well, given that (2+ / 0-)
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      Ruby Ridge and Waco turned out the way they did ... I'm not going to give ATF an auto-pass.

      Nor the Fibbies.

      LBJ, Lady Bird, Anne Richards, Barbara Jordan, Sully Sullenberger, Ike, Drew Brees, Molly Ivins --Texas is no Bush league! -7.50,-5.59

      by BlackSheep1 on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 02:44:02 PM PST

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  •  Another Directv price hike.. (1+ / 0-)
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    I'm a single, grown, mature and still fairly intelligent woman, and not a jock or a nun or an octomom.

    I do watch some TV. For some good and intelligent TV - the 2 satellites are the only way to go.
    Cable is shit and they want $50.00 or more monthly.
    Dish is Direct's poodle, lets face it. Much less quality programming and if Direct raises the price - so will Dish..

    The absolute minimum from Direct now is $70.99  fucking dollars monthly, just to buy the right "package" to watch a handful of decent  shows. It's not the cheapest package, but if you go less you may as well call Cable - they'll give you the same shit for less.
    Direct, in spite of everyone else's losses has not stopped their yearly price increases for a second.  It's a minimum of 3.00 per month more every year I've been with them. They blame those selling the shows for the need to increase their costs.
    The 'poor us' syndrome.

    I just grabbed this 2011 second quarter report of theirs..right when everyone else was hurting ..badly ..
    A record 13 % increase over the year before..
    Each year a record breaking year over the last..

    Since the 90's, excluding those related to Wall Street, have you known anyone who had a really good year?
    I don't.

  •  Shanikka~! (2+ / 0-)
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    shanikka, BlackSheep1

    That kitty up there filled me with more joy and hope I've felt in some long while~!

    Just wanted to say thanks for the kitty.  :)

  •  What Trotter and the NRA ignore is that, (4+ / 0-)
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    annieli, a2nite, shanikka, klompendanser

    both in the real life woman shotgunning two intruders and Trotter's fantasy of as many as five intruders, that there was/is absolutely nothing to prevent the two real or five imagined intruders attacking a woman and her babies, also having WMD.  Especially under the NRA's rule of no criminal background checks.

    So how would the real life women have done with two intruders with AK 47s and how would Trotter fair against 5 intruders each with an AK 47.

    Both LaPierre and Trotter seem to have caught the TeePee virus from Sarah Palin, and it has turned their brains to mush.

  •  DK Quilt Guild Service Projects & Diary (2+ / 0-)
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    shanikka, annieli

    DK Quilt Guild Diary will be available Sunday approx. 3pm  (Pacific).  

    DK Quilt Guild: A place for quilters to gather, share ideas, projects, and to make the world a better place, one quilt at a time. Join us and share your thoughts, projects, questions, and tips. Quilters here are at many different levels of skill. Beginners and non-quilters are welcome, too.
    Golden Gate Bridge Quilt

    Golden at the Gate quilt by Patricia Bagdon

    The DK Quilt Guild has several cool quilt service projects that support our Veterans, Okiciyap Food Pantry, and NFTT Community. Each project will be promoted within Daily Kos Quilt Guild Diaries.  If anyone is interested & need more info please contact either SaraR (Veteran Wheelchair Quilts), glorificus or Melanie in IA (Okiciyap Block & NFTT Community Block).

    It is a terrible thing to see and have no vision. ~ Helen Keller

    by Pam from Calif on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 02:13:17 PM PST

  •  with apologies to Jeff Foxworthy (2+ / 0-)
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    sharman, the good witch

    If you need more ID to vote than to buy a gun,
    You might be a Red Stater.

     If you want to arm female teachers, but not allow women in combat,
    You might be a Red Stater.

    If you think Acorn stole the 2012 election, but W. won 2000 fair and square,
    You might be a Red Stater,

    If you believe the world was created in 6 days just 6,000 years ago, but climate change is a myth,
    You might be a Red Stater.

    If you know Hillary delayed her Senate testimony due to “Benghazi flu”, not a concussion, but Ronnie didn’t have Alzheimer’s during his second term,
    You might be a Red Stater.

  •  You mean the animal we domesticated in (1+ / 0-)
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    order to have it kill small animals for us is a danger to small animals?

    (or the animal that domesticated us in order to have the small animals it kills put into handy little cans)

    Take back the House in 2014!!!! ( 50-state strategy needed)

    by mungley on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 03:32:25 PM PST

  •  In Australia, feral cats are routinely shot (0+ / 0-)

    simply because they are just so devastating to native wildlife.

    For if there is a sin against life, it consists perhaps not so much in despairing of life as in hoping for another life and in eluding the implacable grandeur of this life. - Albert Camus

    by Anne Elk on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 05:20:24 PM PST

  •  My house cats go out regularly. (0+ / 0-)

    I live in the 'burbs in a fenced in yard. I do keep a close eye on the little bastards and they don't stray too far. They're extremely well trained and come when I whistle for them. I think cats should be allowed to go out side. That's where they're from. Keeping cats inside constantly negatively affects their mental health.    

    "Onward through the fog!" - Oat Willie

    by rocksout on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 09:07:21 PM PST

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