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  •   'preemptive strike' on them 'evil's' (7+ / 0-)

    Tryin to use a driveway, the dear leader cheney and puppet bush cheer along with them gun nuts to the ole man protecting his 'rights'!!!

    Report: 71-year-old fatally shoots neighbor during driveway dispute

    Vets On FLOTUS and SLOTUS, "Best - Ever": "We haven't had this kind of visibility from the White House—ever." Joyce Raezer - Dec. 30, 2011

    by jimstaro on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 03:04:31 PM PST

  •  And God made Farm Subsidies for Corporate Farmers (14+ / 0-)

    "Senators are a never-ending source of amusement, amazement, and discouragement" ~ Will Rogers

    by Lefty Coaster on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 03:05:22 PM PST

  •  "God made a farmer" ad - K, we fixed it! (6+ / 0-)
    Did you guys catch the Superbowl ad on farmers? We thought it might have been a lil outdated so we decided to fix it.

    By now you've probably heard about or seen one of the most talked about Super Bowl ads this year. The ad showed a singular portrayal of American farmers coupled with a poetic narration by radio personality Paul Harvey.

    We thought there was a big, big problem with it though - so we decided to go ahead and fix it - and make a point while at it:


    Vets On FLOTUS and SLOTUS, "Best - Ever": "We haven't had this kind of visibility from the White House—ever." Joyce Raezer - Dec. 30, 2011

    by jimstaro on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 03:07:39 PM PST

    •  Video (1+ / 0-)
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      Is an 'iframe' embed, when you folks gonna let them be embedded, so click the link, this ones frankly better then above, but both give the reality!!

      Vets On FLOTUS and SLOTUS, "Best - Ever": "We haven't had this kind of visibility from the White House—ever." Joyce Raezer - Dec. 30, 2011

      by jimstaro on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 03:08:52 PM PST

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  •  That was a Nice Ad Spot (5+ / 0-)
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    IMO, factory farming is one of our greatest shames as humans.  The treatment of farm animals is a total disgrace.  The spoilation of the environment is unreal.

    Put in terms of the commercial:

    And God made assholes whose livelihood is dependent on cruelty to his own creations.

    Fuck factory farming.

    Big money got a mean streak...big money got no soul. - N. Peart

    by jsibley on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 03:08:29 PM PST

    •  factory farms (3+ / 0-)
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      You are pathetic.  Have you ever gotten up in the middle of the night to help birth one of your 100 cows?  Or worried about how they were faring on a very cold winter night?  Or fussed over your daughter's 4-H cow that was having milk fever?
      Fuck factory farming?  Fuck you!
      I've worked all my life to assure that my cows were well fed and comfortable.  Why?  Because only healthy, well fed, comfortable cows will give any chance for this 'asshole' to make a living and provide you with cheap food for your pie hole.

      •  Um (0+ / 0-)

        I don't think you get it. If you are making sure your cows are well fed and comfortable, you aren't running a factory farm.

        •  I do get it (0+ / 0-)

          My point is that whether I run a 100 cow farm or a 5000 cow farm I cannot make a profit unless my cows are well fed, healthy, and comfortable.  Most people that decry "factory farm" have no idea about what they are complaining.  Please define factory farm.  Farming practices are always changing and always will to fit the economics of the current agriculture but no adopted practice can be used that harms the animals.  Unhealthy, stressed animals don't produce!

          •  I see (0+ / 0-)


            I'm not going to go digging for the easily available endless documentation I could link that would prove you're utterly full of crap, because honestly I've seen it already and it bothers me to look at.

            Assuming I'm wrong and you're not either a troll or willfully ignorant, take a few seconds and look into how chickens are treated in factory farms. To pretend 'no adopted practice can be used that harms the animals' is one of the most transparently false, idiotic claims I have yet to see on the comments section on this site, and that's no easy feat.

            •  nonsense? (0+ / 0-)

              I ask someone to define 'factory farm', and thus far I learn it is farms where they are constantly being cruel to their animals; apparently that is the view of those who farm from the the comfort of their homes and narrow point of view.

              • family are farmers (0+ / 0-)

                so you can take your bullshit and stuff it right up your ass.  We farm oranges, almonds and olives.  So fuck off....seriously.

                I have not eaten meat (chicken and fish included) for over 20 years, so I put my money where my mouth is.  Diary and cattle farming are a fucking scourge, you will never convince me otherwise.  In addition, they fuck up the land and each pound of meat takes thousands of gallons of water to produce.  Is that sustainable?  

                Your a total piece of shit vmdairy.  I don't need to explain myself to you in this, or any other lifetime.

                Big money got a mean streak...big money got no soul. - N. Peart

                by jsibley on Tue Feb 12, 2013 at 11:23:13 AM PST

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            •  Absolutely... (0+ / 0-)

              vmdairy is a fucking awipe troll and he is conflating his "sweet and cute" little dairy farm with the farms that run like cowschwitz.  

              But fuck him, becuase he has the nerve to say if you aren't  farming (which I am) you can't comment on the habits of farmers.  Total bullshit.  

              Big money got a mean streak...big money got no soul. - N. Peart

              by jsibley on Tue Feb 12, 2013 at 11:27:02 AM PST

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  •  I did not realize God did all this; I thought it (11+ / 0-)

    all stemmed from changes to farm policy during the Nixon administration...

    ...Son, those Elephants always look out for themselves. If you happen to get a crumb or two from their policies, it's a complete coincidence. -Malharden's Dad

    by slowbutsure on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 03:08:36 PM PST

  •  And here's to the forgotten farmers... (2+ / 0-)
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  •  great (4+ / 0-)
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    spot on ,great job thanks for the laugh

    In all affairs it's a healthy thing now and then to hang a question mark on the things you have long taken for granted." Bertrand Russell (1872-1970)

    by lippythelion69 on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 03:10:58 PM PST

  •  And God made Paul Harvey to help peddle (13+ / 0-)

    the bullshit of the conservative right. Now and then...

    "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room." - President Merkin Muffley

    by Farkletoo on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 03:13:12 PM PST

  •  Solar is... (5+ / 0-)
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    A Poet is at the same time a force for Solidarity and for Solitude -- Pablo Neruda / Netroots Radio podcasts of The After Show with Wink & Justice can be found on Stitcher

    by justiceputnam on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 03:14:21 PM PST

  •  The video with LOUD sound is auto starting. (1+ / 0-)
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  •  awesome ad (5+ / 0-)

    I was hoping someone would make it after that god-awful super bowl travesty of an ad.

    Can't make it to Washington D.C. on 2/17? Check for a Forward on Climate Solidarity Rally near you!

    by citisven on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 03:16:20 PM PST

  •  Good day. (1+ / 0-)
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  •  Did you hear about CA's gun-control proposals? (2+ / 0-)
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    yet another liberal, cactusgal

    You would if you read this diary.

    Please proceed, governor

    by Senor Unoball on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 03:18:50 PM PST

  •  This ad seems to have entered "Where's the Beef?" (5+ / 0-)
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    Stude Dude, OLinda, gffish, DuzT, JeffW

    territory. Everyone is talking about the ad but is anyone talking about the trucks it was trying to sell?

    What's wrong with America? I'll tell you. Everything Romney said was pre-chewed wads of cud from Republicans from the last 30 years and yet he managed thru a combination of racism and selling the (false) hope of riches to get 47% of the national vote.

    by ontheleftcoast on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 03:20:16 PM PST

  •  LOL!!! (4+ / 0-)

    I think God just made me pee myself.

  •  OMG (2+ / 0-)
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    There IS a liberal conspiracy to take down Fruit Gushers....

    I am running to walmart and stock up before they disappear. When the apocalpse comes, I will survive.


  •  I grew up hearing the voice of Paul Harvey (2+ / 0-)
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    My dad listened to him every day, sometimes twice a day - same broadcast. Even then, I thought he was condescending and what I would later learn what is called conservative - older white guy telling everyone else how to behave.

    And my parents used to watch and listen to college football at opposite ends of the house. We weren't allowed to make any noise or bother them during those broadcasts.

    So I can't stand the sound of Paul Harvey's voice or of football broadcasts. I missed all the ads, but have had chance the watch them thanks to the internet. This ad ain't about farmers. It's about trucks? Guess people watched it during the game and felt moved to open another beer and a bag of Doritos.


  •  hi, all - may i do a bit of side track here? (2+ / 0-)
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    RedPrairie, roadbear

    zwoof published a diary this morning about alicia's voice, the organization set up after the murder of his daughter.  i've also got a diary here where folks can help keep this respite for abused women open.

    if you could, would you take a minute to go read zwoof's diary and if you can help, Oke has offered a $500 matching gift if we can meet hers (that was put up at 11:56pst and we've not matched yet...)

    thanks for letting me pop in here with what is a very valuable purpose...

    EdriesShop Is it kind? is it true? is it necessary?

    by edrie on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 03:38:39 PM PST

  •  Beethoven's Ninth (1+ / 0-)
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    James DePriest, former conductor of the Oregon Symphony, died yesterday.  A friend of mine told this story about one of his concerts:

    when my son Alex was 8 (i think it was), for his xmas present, i brought him to Pdx (we were living in Eugene) for ice skating at Lloyd Center, dinner & then a performance of Beethoven's 9th Symphony, directed by James DePriest. the Maestro spoke a bit before the performance but, even better, he did this:

    the bass section had bottles of booze & were swaying. someone brought out a bundle of music, tied up in rope. and the Maestro turned to the audience (you can see it coming) - "It's the top of the Ninth, the score is tied, and the basses are loaded."

    Had to share this.  Thanks to TA Barnhardt for a great story.

    I'm still mad about Nixon.

    by J Orygun on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 03:41:07 PM PST

  •  bush family calls hack (2+ / 0-)
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    gffish, DuzT

    "An outrageous breach of privacy!"

    Just saw on CBS news.

    Really, the bush and someones 'privacy', Huh!!!!!

    After what jr did, takes moxie to come up with that and just about their family!!

    Vets On FLOTUS and SLOTUS, "Best - Ever": "We haven't had this kind of visibility from the White House—ever." Joyce Raezer - Dec. 30, 2011

    by jimstaro on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 03:43:54 PM PST

  •  well-trained LEOs (5+ / 0-)
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    Bisbonian, sneakers563, gffish, DuzT, roadbear

    TORRANCE, Calif. (KTLA) — Two women are recovering after their pickup was riddled by police gunfire in Torrance, in what investigators are calling a case of mistaken identity.
    The officers who opened fire were on the lookout for fugitive Christopher Dorner. Another vehicle was also mistakenly fired upon not far away.
    The first incident happened about 5:30 a.m. Thursday in the 19500 block of Redbeam Avenue.
    It involved LAPD detectives from the Hollywood division, who were reportedly on a protective detail for an LAPD captain and his family named in Dorner’s manifesto.
    Emma Hernandez, 71, was delivering the Los Angeles Times with her daughter, 47-year-old Margie Carranza, when officers apparently mistook their pickup for that of Dorner.
    Hernandez was shot in the back, and remains hospitalized in stable condition.
    Carranza suffered a wound from glass that struck her hand and received stitches.ce-shot-in-manhunt-for-ex-cop/#wuZIUKwwL2cqKR0V.99 Hernandez and Carranza are both expected to be okay. They have retained attorney Glen T. Jonas.
    “There was no warning, there was no orders or no commands… just gunshots,” Jonas told reporters.
    According to Jonas, the women’s vehicle was “the wrong color and the wrong model,” compared to Dorner’s.

    Warning - some snark above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ "We're like a strip club with a million bouncers and no strippers." (HBO's Real Time, January 18, 2013)

    by annieli on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 03:43:57 PM PST

  •  I really don't know what to think of this (5+ / 0-)

    It was funny, and I suppose it's an accurate portrayal of the worst parts of our agricultural industry, maybe even the majority of our agricultural industry. But I grew up in a place where family farms are still a thing.

    My father is the kind of guy Paul Harvey was describing. As was my grandfather, and his father before him. My Great grandfather came here from Germany sometime after the Civil War. He settled in northern Iowa and built the home I grew up in, he and my grandfather built the farm my father worked.

    I won't pretend the system is perfect. The industrialization or agriculture causes a lot of problems, but it also feeds the world. Without GM crops, we (humanity) would be facing constant famine, but it's not right for a company like Monsanto to patent the crops to extort massive profits from the farmers growing the grain.

    My father grew corn because it was the most profitable cash crop, even in the 90s. I fully recognize that this is because of special interests and protectionist trade policies, but I have a really hard time blaming the farmer for that. The factory farm and the farmer are two very different things, they both exists, and I'm really conflicted on things like this video that appear to lump them both in together.

    "There is one rule for the industrialist and that is: Make the best quality of goods possible at the lowest cost possible, paying the highest wages possible." -Henry Ford

    by sixeight120bpm on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 03:45:16 PM PST

  •  As a former Farmer I'll comment on video (8+ / 0-)

    I think farming is a little like Paul Harvey's monologue in Dodge Ram ad, and a lot like the Funny or Die video.  Funny or Die makes a good counterpoint to the nostalgia fest that was Paul Harvey. I still know many great families who are farmers. In many ways they are good stewards of the Earth.
    Our agricultural policies are more to benefit the large corporation and much is done by lobbyists to insure profits for the ag corporations by trading on the image of the fabled farmer.  
    Paul Harvey was a huckster and his God Made a Farmer story was delivered in 1978, even then it glowed with a 1940's - 1950's feel.  I think all the farmer trashing is off base in this comment stream, but trying to gain control of Congress so subsidies are eliminated, conservation and local foods promoted, those are goals I can agree with.

    The past, present, and future are equally compelling; none of the three are easily understood.

    by Grey Panther on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 03:47:04 PM PST

  •  Snow removal is under way (1+ / 0-)
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     photo 535880_460776667323581_1037724912_n_zps8a7de026.jpg

    Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

    by ActivistGuy on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 03:54:16 PM PST

    •  Needed supplies are being received (3+ / 0-)
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       photo 395688_460793007321947_898595016_n_zps9f88b39a.jpg

      Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

      by ActivistGuy on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 03:56:34 PM PST

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      •  That is an amazing photo! (1+ / 0-)
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        Any back story you can share?

        I can see Canada from my house. No, really, I can.

        by DuzT on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 04:29:06 PM PST

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        •  I really can't tell you anything (1+ / 0-)
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          It probably is a photo from the blizzard of 1888, as some of the other photos in the collection where I found it were labeled as such, but even that is just guesswork.

          Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

          by ActivistGuy on Sat Feb 09, 2013 at 07:01:49 AM PST

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      •  Hey, ActivistGuy (1+ / 0-)
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        I know you are suggesting that this is what we shall wake up to, here in the Pioneer Valley, in the morning.  Only about 5 inches, so far, up here near the NH and VT borders.  

        It is starting to come down really hard now, and we are in the path for the largest amount:  probably two feet or so.  

        I just wanted to add that although I live an hour from you, if you need any help during your transition to legal blindness, please kosmail me.  Just an extra hand if you need something.

        Wishes for everyone to stay safe and warm.

        Just waitin' around for the new Amy Winehouse album

        by jarbyus on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 05:10:04 PM PST

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        •  Yes (0+ / 0-)

          It had just really kicked into gar down here around the time you posted.  My sister estimates about two feet fell here, although drifting makes it hard to be precise.  And thank you very much on your offer.  While it's unlikely, should I need anything up Franklin County way, I will get in touch with you.

          Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

          by ActivistGuy on Sat Feb 09, 2013 at 07:07:31 AM PST

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  •  Ha! (4+ / 0-)
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    A little background.  I am a farmer's daughter.  And throughout my childhood my parents were much like the people in the original commercial.   They only farmed 400 acres.  They only had a couple hundred hogs total.  They used equipement that was 30, 40, and 50 years old.  They made little money and devasting floods on their land were common place (they bought the place with an innocent looking creek that was actually basically a river that would require replanting most years).   My mom was a stay at home parent.  My didn't have an off the farm job until I was 20.

    And I watched the original Dodge commericial and thought that it was the stupidest thing I'd ever seen.   First, the people they were showing were never the people that were going to buy a new Dodge truck.  Due to good weather and good prices and inheriting land that they had been renting for decades (and an off the farm job that was required to get affordable health coverage), my parents are doing fairly well (that could all change if the drought doesn't ease up).  My parents fully realize that the farm subsidizes are run poorly.  And most farmers now don't need them.  

    My mom thought the commercial was stupid.  She said she is probably jaded from 35 years of hard work and heartache and worry.  But farmers like that don't exist anymore.  My dad thought the commercial was are no better or worse than any other group of people.   They can be viscious.  A lot of them aren't nice.

    Anyway, all of that to say that the Super Bowl commercial was incredibly stupid even to me and I should have been the one that it was aimed at.  I'm grateful that my parents made it work for 40 years and I'm even more grateful that as they entire their 60's things are a bit more comfortable for them.  But for that comfort now, they had more than there share of tough times.  And I'm not sure that they would do it all over again.

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