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ProgLegs mentioned that Rob Morris, pastor of Christ the King Lutheran Church in Newtown, was forced to apologize for taking part in a community-wide prayer vigil after the Sandy Hook shooting.  The reason?  Jews and Muslims took part in it, and Morris' denomination, the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod, does not allow its pastors to take part in such gatherings if prayers are offered.  Their line is that praying with non-Christians means accepting their beliefs.  

While most normal people--Christian and non-Christian alike--think the LCMS was being incredibly callous, at least one religious right figure is standing up and applauding the LCMS.  Bryan Fischer used part of yesterday's edition of Focal Point to say that Morris had no business taking part in an "idolatrous" function. (h/t to People for the American Way)

Fischer is of the mind that Christians have no business taking part in interfaith prayer services because they offer prayers to "counterfeit gods."  Therefore, any Christian who takes part in such functions would be "unequally yoked."

And there, ladies and gentlemen, is the reason in a nutshell why this country is so polarized today.  If putting aside our differences just for a moment so we can mourn together is being "unequally yoked," there's something fundamentally wrong.

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  •  LCMS is an odd denomination (8+ / 0-)

    While it is conservative it tends to be more mainstream that most other conservative denominations, but then they do stuff like this.  Their very closed communion is also very odd.

    But, I don't think the rank and file LCMS agree with this, even Pastors, but the power in the denomination lies with the old guard.

    •  Oh, trust me, there are. The subject was much (8+ / 0-)

      discussed in my congregation after the 9/11 Yankee Stadium interfaith prayer vigil, where LCMS Pastor David Benke attended - with the permission of the Synod President - and then was later suspended for several months for having attended.  The question posed by some (and it will probably come up again after this) was why the leadership of the Synod goes so far in its definition of unionism and syncretism to make us look like a bunch of extreme right-wing buffoons...

      ...fer cryin' out loud, the Southern Baptists, of all people, complain when they get left out of these things...

      "In a nation ruled by swine, all pigs are upward mobile..." - Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

      by Jack K on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 03:34:29 PM PST

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  •  Religion is poison (4+ / 0-)

    It ruins everything it touches.

  •  I'm sure this will make Fischer very popular (2+ / 0-)
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    exterris, irishwitch

    Among a very small set of small-minded people.

  •  Meat of the thing here (2+ / 0-)
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    irishwitch, Munchkn

    You should all sub to Right Wing Watch, anyway.

    Streichholzschächtelchen

    by otto on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 03:54:35 PM PST

  •  I was under the impression (2+ / 0-)
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    irishwitch, Munchkn

    That there is only 1 God known by different names to different religions.  

    Never be afraid to voice your opinion and fight for it . Corporations aren't people, they're Republicans (Rev Al Sharpton 10/7/2011)

    by Rosalie907 on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 05:58:03 PM PST

  •  Even Pope Benny 16 (1+ / 0-)
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    Munchkn

    doesn't freak out about interfaith vigils. I know there was a Catholic priest there and so far his bishop hasn't tossed a hissy fit.

    The last time we mixed religion and politics people got burned at the stake.

    by irishwitch on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 07:23:03 PM PST

  •  Counterfeit gods, my ass! (0+ / 0-)

    How in the hell is the God that Jews and Muslims worship different from the God of the LCMS?

    •  They are VERY different gods.... (0+ / 0-)

      The god of the Jews chose one little desert tribe as his "chosen people" over all of the other people he supposedly created.  He did not send them a savior to mitigate their sins.

      The god of the Christians DID send a savior to mitigate sins.

      The god of the Muslims sent Jesus as a prophet only and Mohammed as the key messenger.

      This is the problem with interfaith activities. There is always the claim that "we are worshipping the same god after all". That's nonsense.

      But then one could say that no one is worshipping the same god because god is a figment of the imagination and everyone has a different imagination.

      This "controversy" is just another example of the adolescent ridiculousness of religion.  Hope we all grow out of it soon.

  •  It's not just Jews and Muslims that pose a problem (1+ / 0-)
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    for the LCMS.
    I was raised in the LCMS but didn't like it much, even as a child, so as a young adult I switched to a more liberal Lutheran branch, the ELCA.
    I later attended an ELCA church in Japan, but when I returned to the US the only Lutheran church close to my home was LCMS, so I decided to go there.
    The first time I tried to take communion the pastor approached me and told me I couldn't take communion unless I could prove my "credentials" as LCMS.
    I explained that I had been baptized and confirmed in the LCMS but had joined the ELCA and been a member of a church in Japan. I produced records for myself and my children and even had my former pastor write a letter of transfer to the new church.
    The LCMS pastor refused to recognize the validity of my ELCA membership (usually church members can transfer from one church to another based on a transfer letter), and, worse yet, refused to recognize the validity of my children's baptisms by the ELCA church in Japan.
    I did not attempt to join this church. The Episcopalians welcomed me, and I eventually found an ELCA church.
    I wish I could say that the problem was this one pastor, but the LCMS church my parents attended ran things the same way.
    The LCMS apparently believes it holds a monopoly on truth and religious purity, and even other Christians in the same denomination are suspect.
    The funny thing was, one of the hymns I remember them singing at this church was titled "And They'll Know We are Christians by Our Love."
    The LCMS probably thinks Fischer is a problem, too.

  •  praise (0+ / 0-)

    To founding fathers who understood that our government should stay as far away from all religions as it can.

  •  all praise (0+ / 0-)

    To our founding fathers, who tried to keep as much distance as possible between all religions and our government.

    Bless them.

  •  Well, (0+ / 0-)

    lie down with dogs, wake up with fleas!

    "The light which puts out our sight is darkness to us." Thoreau

    by NancyWH on Sat Feb 09, 2013 at 07:03:40 AM PST

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