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The news that the great state of Mississippi only now, as result of gentle inquiry by some guy who happened to run across an asterisk on a website, is getting around to putting the final needed postage stamp on their ratification of the 13th Amendment of the Constitution of These United States (you know, the amendment nixing the keeping of humans as slaves as a valid American lifestyle choice, that amendment) is, let's face it, a good story. Even better is the required reminder that Mississippi only got around to an official head nod in the direction of maybe not keeping slaves in 1995, which by any stretch of charity is many, many decades past when such a thing ought to have been done, which in turn should give the youngsters these days a bit of insight into how long conservative white southern folks hold a grudge. If you're of voting age, kids, I've got news for you: At the time of your birth the state of Mississippi had still not gotten around to agreeing to the 13th Amendment. Screw segregation, the civil rights struggle, the Reagan dog-whistles, the fights over park names and certain flags and all the rest of it; Mississippi couldn't fully abide the thought of putting their legislative pens to a final ending of slavery itself until Bill Clinton's second term, an at-that-point sheepish ceremonial footnote wedged between such 1990s cultural milestones as the Tommy Lee-Pamela Anderson wedding and the release of a second Die Hard sequel.

And even then, their final work got shoved in a drawer and forgotten, apparently nobody in the state or the country thinking much of it until some fellow, somewhere, saw the asterisk and, alone among us all, mind you, finally asked himself WTF was up with that.

Every time I hear the punditry ponder whether the mostly regional, almost-entirely-rural conservative movement will be able to properly pivot towards a legitimate embrace of Latino voters in the face of widespread base hostility towards the same, or every time I hear a debate over legitimate rape and whether or not the wommenfolks ought to be allowed to take certain pills without the menfolk's permission, and certainly every time I hear Karl Rove or other very important strategist-grifters mutter on about how well maybe the Republicans aren't going to be quite so open to the racist and/or bigoted and/or misogynist and/or anti-science, anti-knowledge, flat earth thickskulls that keep clogging up their primary races like so many sticks in a beaver dam, I'm just going to keep reminding myself that it was only this year, the year 2013, that the good and proper government of Mississippi finally got around to licking the final stamp on the 13th Amendment, and I am going to jot down that new promised declaration of conservative progress on my custom-printed calendar of things that will possibly happen at some point during or after the year 2060-ish or so, and that is if we're being optimistic about it.

None of it bodes well for the future, mind you. As side note to this pithy story, we've currently got Ramesh Ponnuru engaged in the hapless task of educating fellow conservatives about how the Reagan record was maybe not what all of conservatism is damn convinced the Reagan record was, so thoroughly have the movement fictions overtaken the actual Stuff That Happened. By the same token, it's going to be a whole mess of decades and many, many pundit retirements before True and Proper conservatives dare fess up about, say, the bungling nature of the fiscal crackpottery that has been inflicted upon us these last 30 years. And Lord help us—by the time that final last swath of the country figures out that maybe climate change was not, in fact, all just a U.N. sponsored hoax to make us all ride bicycles to our environmentalist reeducation camps, the entire city of Biloxi's going to consist of a half dozen rusted barges floating somewhere in the Gulf, all tied together with a good stout rope.



Blast from the Past. At Daily Kos on this date in 2003Thursday Morning Iraq Update:

Let’s get caught up on recent Iraq developments. First, under the category of how to win friends and influence people, we have managed to threaten and piss off both the Germans and now the Turks in the last several days. Rummy went so far as to threaten and begin implementing an economic retaliation against the Germans for their lack of support. Now, we have also threatened the Turks as well, while using an inappropriate ethnic metaphor to boot:
"In private, though, administration officials were fuming, with one senior official calling the Turkish efforts to hold out for more aid — and perhaps access to oil from the Kirkuk region of Iraq — as 'extortion in the name of alliance.' Another said that despite a stream of aid from the United States, "the Turks seem to think that we'll keep the bazaar open all night.'"
Not surprisingly, the Turks now want it in writing from Bush.

Tweet of the Day:

It cracks me up that @FoxNewsLatino even exists. News from people who hate you!
@Angie_Coiro via web





On today's Kagro in the Morning show, Greg Dworkin joined us to talk about the Derp of the Day: the Hagel "Friends of Hamas" rumor. We also revisited the issue of the Florida gag law preventing pediatricians from asking questions about gun safety at home. Interesting how gun rights advocates find new privacy rights into the 2nd Amendment, even as courts chip away at them elsewhere. Once again, 2nd Amendment interpretation is somehow magically moving in the exact opposite direction of the jurisprudence on everything else. Also: new #GunFAIL; an interesting Wall Street Journal column calling on "gun guys" to make gun safety cool; some states are claiming Dodd-Frank is unconstitutional, and; Teh Crazy of Teh Ted Cruz.


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  •  683,801 registered users on dKos now. (13+ / 0-)

    Here are the 10 newest registered users on dKos.  Hope to see their comments and diaries here soon!  (If they're not all spammers.)

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    feverdevilguy66 (user #683,800)
    hat8waiter

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    #683,800: feverdevilguy66

    We've added a whopping 3,950 more users in the last two days.  This is a continuation going back to May where we've been absolutely flooded with new users.  I'm pretty sure almost all of these new users are spammers or bots.  While the rate had been getting faster, it seems they suddenly started slowing down right when Hurricane Sandy hit.  It slowed down to under 1,000 new users in a 24-hour period, and we were back down to somewhat over 100 new users every 24 hours or so, until about January 30th, when it exploded again.  What are they planning?


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  •  Ever notice how Mississipi looks like (14+ / 0-)

    Bart Simpson?

    The Awakening Is Afire! Nothing can be done. Rubio drank all their water.

    by franklyn on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 08:32:16 PM PST

  •  Gee, I can't understand why the Teabag goons (12+ / 0-)

    would be so angry at McCain over Immigration Reform?
    .

    "I'm so happy 'cause today I found my friends, they're in my head. Light my candles, in a daze 'cause I found god." - Kurt Cobain

    by Jeff Y on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 08:34:47 PM PST

    •  This is a short but cute one (5+ / 0-)
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      featuring some of the new features from the next Sims 3 EP, University Life (the dude in the llama outfit is actually doing the Gangnam Style dance; the problem with planning a game so far in advance you never know what's going to be passe by the time it comes out):

      (Most fun part is Grim Reaper playing the bass in the background)

      There's only one rule that I know of, babies -- goddammit, you've got to be kind. -- Kurt Vonnegut

      by Cali Scribe on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 09:10:24 PM PST

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    •  Somebody be on the lookout for the JPL version. (4+ / 0-)

      I'm sure it will be great. They have to beat their last one though!

      if a habitat is flooded, the improvement for target fishes increases by an infinite percentage...because a habitat suitability index that is even a tiny fraction of 1 is still infinitely higher than zero, which is the suitability of dry land to fishes.

      by mrsgoo on Thu Feb 21, 2013 at 12:15:05 AM PST

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  •  Canada worrying about KXL - Kerry speech "ominous" (17+ / 0-)
    In yet another potentially ominous sign for TransCanada's Keystone XL pipeline, John Kerry used his first major address as secretary of state on Wednesday to make an urgent call for comprehensive action on climate change.

    "We as a nation must have the foresight and courage to make the investments necessary to safeguard the most sacred trust we keep for our children and grandchildren: an environment not ravaged by rising seas, deadly superstorms, devastating droughts and the other hallmarks of a dramatically changing climate," Kerry said in a wide-ranging speech at the University of Virginia.

    "If we waste this opportunity, it may be the only thing our generation — generations — are remembered for. We need to find the courage to leave a far different legacy."

    http://www.cbc.ca/...

    Keystone XL Pipeline - Canada gets the money, Asia gets the oil, America gets the toxic refinery pollution and potential for a pipeline leak ecological disaster.

    by Jacoby Jonze on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 08:36:57 PM PST

    •  If they can't ship it south. Can they effectively (6+ / 0-)

      ship it west to the Pacific given how cold it is up there or is that just bluff and Bluster?

      I want 1 less Tiny Coffin, Why Don't You? Support The President's Gun Violence Plan.

      by JML9999 on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 08:46:43 PM PST

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      •  a) that involves crossing the Rockies, which... (9+ / 0-)

        is a legit technical challenge, in terms of the elevation change and the potential for extreme temperatures, since, even at sea level, you need to keep the pipeline heated or the stuff turns solid.

        b) native tribes - whose land it would run through - have real political power in Canada and they say No Way.

        c) crucial, vulnerable fisheries populate that portion of the Pacific Coast, meaning the government of British Columbia, which already gains nothing from the tar sands (since they're next door in Alberta), faces economic and political pressure to say No.

        "The Democratic Party is not our friend: it is the only party we can negotiate with."

        by 2020adam on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 09:27:00 PM PST

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        •  This may be a naive question (2+ / 0-)
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          Why don't just build a refinery up there in Canada, and ship finished product to the coast?

          Wouldn't that create a lot of jobs?

          •  It seems that this is a real argument in Alberta. (1+ / 0-)
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            However, Texas already has the refining capacity needed to handle this kind of oil, as it is similar to what we already get from Mexico and Venezuela. Also, adding capacity to current Texas refineries is cheaper than creating whole new refineries, both because labor is cheaper and regulations are significantly lighter both here in the US, and in situations where refineries are being upgraded rather than when building new infrastructure.

            Canadian unions would apparently love to get these jobs, but they don't own the companies making the decisions, and they have no control over the political facts that make transport to the BC coast unlikely.

            "The Democratic Party is not our friend: it is the only party we can negotiate with."

            by 2020adam on Thu Feb 21, 2013 at 07:21:14 PM PST

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    •  Is that pipeline supposed to run through Canada? (3+ / 0-)
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      And if so, what do Canadians think about it?

      "I'm so happy 'cause today I found my friends, they're in my head. Light my candles, in a daze 'cause I found god." - Kurt Cobain

      by Jeff Y on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 08:56:42 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  A lot of Canadians do not like it (1+ / 0-)
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        which means bupkiss, if the Canadian government allows it.

      •  They have a growing protest. (2+ / 0-)
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        LilithGardener, Jeff Y

        Especially by the indigenous tribes. The closest ones in the mining area are having a significant outbreak and deaths from cancers. Fish also. Independent research has been accepted by one part of the Canadian government. It has stalled their progress significantly and the projections I've seen are that if we don't build the pipeline through the US, it won't get built. Too much opposition in BC and too long any other route.

        "People, even more than things, have to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed and redeemed; never throw out anyone. " Audrey Hepburn "A Beautiful Woman"

        by Ginny in CO on Thu Feb 21, 2013 at 12:59:15 AM PST

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    •  Go Kerry! I think he is sending a message. (2+ / 0-)
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      Get ready to fight the 1% and their allies.  I left this comment on another thread. List of federal agencies to contact - with links embedded. We need to flood all the ones who deal with environmental issues. And all the congress critters you can. The link at the end (I was getting paranoid the comment would disappear in cyberspace) is for USA gov. Contact elected officials site. Includes states.

      It's past time. Delaying any longer just postpones the inevitable and will make it worse. The companies who convinced themselves they would never be stopped and the threat is not enough to need to, are just going to have to deal with the risk they took on these investments. I'd rather spend money out of the Pentagon/Intel/Defense industry subsidies budget to offset the job losses than let them keep putting heavy metals into the air and destroying the habitat.

      Agathena's excellent 2/15 diary:  Forward on Climate: The Tar Sands Ecocide NEEDS the Keystone XL!

      Media Matters  2/14/13  5 Myths About Keystone XL, Debunked.  I've used some of the direct links to CBO, Cornell U, etc. for places where Media Matters would immediately discredit the link.

      "People, even more than things, have to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed and redeemed; never throw out anyone. " Audrey Hepburn "A Beautiful Woman"

      by Ginny in CO on Thu Feb 21, 2013 at 01:28:44 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  Sigh... (10+ / 0-)

    so my Ron Paul friend posted this latest screed on the private vs. public sector.  I've copied the image because you can't see his page unless you're Facebook friends with him.

    So, other than the Internet, what are some other things you'd throw back at this graphic?

  •  The Ronald Reagan Legacy Project of (7+ / 0-)

    bathtub boy, Grover "Hapless" Norquist

    One of the ways we work to further the legacy of Reagan is by asking the governor of every state in the nation to make a proclamation declaring February 6th, "Ronald Reagan Day."  An average of 30 governors a year over the last few years have made such a proclamation, choosing to honor character over partisanship. In addition to ensuring that every February 6th is known as “Ronald Reagan Day,” we work to encourage the naming of landmarks, buildings, roads, etc. after Ronald Wilson Reagan.  We continue compiling a list of Reagan dedications that remind American society of the life and legacy of President Reagan.  
    Ramesh Ponnuru engaged in the hapless task of educating fellow conservatives about how the Reagan record was maybe not what all of conservatism is damn convinced the Reagan record was, so thoroughly have the movement fictions overtaken the actual Stuff That Happened.
  •  On the Pistorius scandal... (7+ / 0-)

    A Poet is at the same time a force for Solidarity and for Solitude -- Pablo Neruda / Netroots Radio podcasts of The After Show with Wink & Justice can be found on Stitcher

    by justiceputnam on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 08:41:05 PM PST

    •  Two parents (5+ / 0-)

      are grieving the death of their daughter.  But I guess that doesn't stop the jokes.

      Would you make the same type of joke about the deaths by guns in this country since, say, December 14?

      And I'm a permitted gun owner.

      " My faith in the Constitution is whole; it is complete; it is total." Barbara Jordan, 1974

      by gchaucer2 on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 08:55:00 PM PST

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      •  It's not meant as a joke... (2+ / 0-)
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        ... it's meant as an indictment.

        A Poet is at the same time a force for Solidarity and for Solitude -- Pablo Neruda / Netroots Radio podcasts of The After Show with Wink & Justice can be found on Stitcher

        by justiceputnam on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 09:05:01 PM PST

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        •  I cannot see for the life of me how this guy (3+ / 0-)
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          defends himself. The more that comes out, the worse it looks. Feels like hot headed mofo with a gun makes a decision that is now ending his wonderful life. Not to mention the life of the gal he was soooo pissed at. Ain't guns grand?  

          if a habitat is flooded, the improvement for target fishes increases by an infinite percentage...because a habitat suitability index that is even a tiny fraction of 1 is still infinitely higher than zero, which is the suitability of dry land to fishes.

          by mrsgoo on Thu Feb 21, 2013 at 12:39:38 AM PST

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      •  Tragic, evil. (3+ / 0-)
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        I was wondering whether I was wrong to laugh at an OJ Simpson joke, and talked to a wise friend about it. She pointed out that we delegitimize evil by ridiculing it.

        Freedom isn't free. Patriots pay taxes.

        by Dogs are fuzzy on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 09:08:19 PM PST

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      •  Local sports talk host made a good point (9+ / 0-)

        that rather than the bathroom being the place you'd find an intruder coming in (the Beatles' "She Came In Through The Bathroom Window" notwithstanding), it sounds more like a place a scared woman would be hiding from a crazed boyfriend wielding weaponry.

        There's only one rule that I know of, babies -- goddammit, you've got to be kind. -- Kurt Vonnegut

        by Cali Scribe on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 09:14:41 PM PST

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        •  Exactly... (6+ / 0-)

          ... behind a locked bathroom door.

          His "excuse" does not pass the smell test.

          A Poet is at the same time a force for Solidarity and for Solitude -- Pablo Neruda / Netroots Radio podcasts of The After Show with Wink & Justice can be found on Stitcher

          by justiceputnam on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 09:16:54 PM PST

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        •  It's too bad that she couldn't get out through (2+ / 0-)
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          the bathroom window.

          if a habitat is flooded, the improvement for target fishes increases by an infinite percentage...because a habitat suitability index that is even a tiny fraction of 1 is still infinitely higher than zero, which is the suitability of dry land to fishes.

          by mrsgoo on Thu Feb 21, 2013 at 12:40:46 AM PST

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        •  I believe the prosecution also brought this up. (2+ / 0-)
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          LilithGardener, JeffW

          Especially due to the reports of earlier and prior arguments. bbc link below has a diagram of the bedroom and bath. The trial is going to be quite interesting.

          While one detective is compromised - prior charge of 7 attempted murders has been reinstated, the ballistic evidence indicates Pistorius would have had his prostheses on due to the height the bullets were fired from.

          Sad, in so many ways.

          "People, even more than things, have to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed and redeemed; never throw out anyone. " Audrey Hepburn "A Beautiful Woman"

          by Ginny in CO on Thu Feb 21, 2013 at 02:01:18 AM PST

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    •  Oh -- and p.s. (6+ / 0-)

      it isn't a fucking scandal -- it is a homicide.

      " My faith in the Constitution is whole; it is complete; it is total." Barbara Jordan, 1974

      by gchaucer2 on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 08:55:43 PM PST

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    •  Unknown (1+ / 0-)
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      justiceputnam

      if he is guilty or not.  I get tired of seeing everyone forgetting about innocent until proven guilty.

      I still like your tweet, but then I have a gritty sense of humor.

      Anyway, I've read the trial transcripts, and I really think it's impossible to say what's even likely at this point.

      There has been a lot of incorrect info quoted in the press.  His defense team proved several important errors in the police reporting.

      •  He admitted he killed her, the only question (0+ / 0-)

        of presumption is about the definition of premeditation.

        •  Well (0+ / 0-)

          there is more to it than that.  It's about whether it was a mistake and he was shooting at an intruder, or whether he purposefully killed Reena.

          The premeditation is an additional factor.

          •  Seriously? He shot into a locked bathroom cabinet, (0+ / 0-)

            didn't he? You want to play devil's advocate? Explain how the intruder got in the house and lock themselves in the bathroom while his gfriend was somehow not around.

            •  Perhaps (0+ / 0-)

              you might consider that you are trying him before all of the evidence has been provided.

              That's my point.  

              Why a supposedly progressive person would maintain your stance is hard for me to understand.

              In answer to your question, there was an open window in the bathroom, supposedly.

              Once the case comes to court, we will know what the evidence in, and can make an informed opinion.  Prior to that, you are only getting a tiny slice of the evidence.

              •  There was an open window in the toilet closet? (0+ / 0-)

                support your assertion with actual facts and sources please.

                "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2004

                by LilithGardener on Mon Feb 25, 2013 at 03:41:47 PM PST

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          •  I'm sick of the nonsense arguments (0+ / 0-)

            I fully believe in a presumption of innocence.

            Blade runner's own story belies an intent to kill with a deadly weapon.

            The idea that any man can simply claim that he was afraid, and then shoot multiple shots into a small locked cabinet, and be considered innocent of intent is ludicrous. The toilet compartment is small and totally protected! If he thought there was an intruder in there he still had no right to shoot the intruder. He could have called the police and kept his gun trained on the door and waited for the police to come and take the intruder away.

            But he didn't. He most certainly shot multiple rounds with an intent to kill, someone. The only question is whether he planned in advance to kill HER.

            The corrupt detective, guilty of shooting at people in public, charged with 7 counts of attempted murder, is on the case to throw it FOR Blade runner. What a sham.

            •  Huh? (0+ / 0-)

              Nonsense argument?

              I do not consider 'innocent until proven guilty' to be a nonsense argument.

              Your writing shows that you have made a number of unfounded determinations.  

              •  You missed the point (0+ / 0-)

                My objection is to all these exta-judicial killings as "justifiable homicide" cases based on someone simply claiming fear/self defense! That's the part of this case that looks like nonsense to me.

                A fair trial is not possible if a corrupt police force puts a corrupt detective in charge of the investigation. No matter what evidence is collected, it's all tainted, in part because the corrupt cop made sure it was tainted, by not following standard evidence gathering.

                The shooter's statements may or may not be true. He is still entitled to be assumed innocent by a judge and jury and tried in a court where he gets to mount a defense against all the evidence. The cops gave the defense a whole bunch of easy attack points.

                I don't know whether the shooter's reported statements are true or not. I'm not on his jury, and I have no impact on his future. I'm entitled to form an opinion about corrupt prosecutions that, in my opinion, are known to throw the case for the shooter.

                Based on the layout of the house, and adding the shooter's statements (not the police statements) I formed an opinion. Based on my reading some press I formed an opinion about the police.

                YMMV

                "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2004

                by LilithGardener on Mon Feb 25, 2013 at 03:53:04 PM PST

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                •  I consider this (0+ / 0-)

                  to be a reasonable comment, and a reasonable discussion.

                  My opinion is that the evidence is not all known to us yet, and that he is innocent until proven guilty.

                  I'd like to see links to your continued assertion that the corrupt police force purposefully put a corrupt detective in charge, and that "the corrupt cop made sure it was tainted, by not following standard evidence gathering."

                  •  About intent to kill (0+ / 0-)

                    Reasonable people can disagree, and comments on a blog are not a total treatise of one's thinking on a subject.

                    You wrote:

                    It's about whether it was a mistake and he was shooting at an intruder, or whether he purposefully killed Reena.
                    There is a gap in there - do you see it?

                    "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

                    by LilithGardener on Mon Feb 25, 2013 at 07:28:59 PM PST

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                  •  You asserted there is a window (0+ / 0-)

                    so you can assemble links to the evidence you thinks warrants your assertion. I'm not interested in further hashing over the case, or discussing police evidentiary rules in SA. (I did not save links).

                    But I'll leave you with these thoughts:

                    The definition of premeditation must include consideration of his behavior, whether he intended to kill the intruder, not only whether he intended to kill the person he in fact did admit killing.

                    If you are following the story and want to champion the shooter's right to laws that may not exist in his country, then you may be promoting civil rights in a place they does need them as much as we do. I would applaud you for that.

                    If it is, then that "window in the bathroom" that you threw out is an important detail you might want to really pin that  down. My opinion is that it doesn't really matter.

                    If you are correct, and there was a window in the toilet closet, and it was large enough for the intruder to escape, wouldn't that also undermine the shooter's asserted fear of being in imminent danger?

                    Wouldn't it be more plausible that he woke to the sound of someone in the house, picked up his gun from under the bed. Saw that Reena was sleeping soundly, or didn't notice her at all, and proceeded down the hall (which is not very long). He might have heard the toilet door shut and lock - (I read that it was locked).

                    It there was a window through with the shooter could leave the house, it would be like shooting someone as they are running out the back door?  So in my opinion, whether he shot bullets (how many 3, 4?) into a locked closet, or he shot bullets into a locked closet with a window egress, in NEITHER scenario was he in imminent danger.

                    There was also a long gap before he called the police and there were 2 iphones and 2 blackberries recovered. But he also had another cell phone that neither he nor his defense made available to the police.

                    Those details were all part of forming my opinion about whether his confession made any sense, or whether the confession had been coerced.

                    Good luck with your civil rights advocacy.

                    "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

                    by LilithGardener on Mon Feb 25, 2013 at 07:33:33 PM PST

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                  •  My opinion is that the evidence is not all known (0+ / 0-)

                    That is an unfortunate fact - the evidence will never be all known because of what he did and what the police did.

                    Between the shooting and the bail hearing a lot of evidence was contaminated or destroyed.

                    The case will be tried on contaminated evidence, departures from normal practice, involvement of people with serious credibility issues. It's a mess they have there. And if they have an appeals process like we do, it may already be that even if he is convicted he'll be let off on appeal because of the police.

                    "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

                    by LilithGardener on Mon Feb 25, 2013 at 07:39:15 PM PST

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                    •  [It] is an unfortunate fact [that] the evidence (0+ / 0-)

                      I agree that it's certainly not possible at this stage to know all the evidence.

                      "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

                      by LilithGardener on Mon Feb 25, 2013 at 07:49:31 PM PST

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              •  Nope - I haven't made any determinations (0+ / 0-)

                It's not my job to make determinations.

                You don't have to understand my opinion. And you can judge my political values as much as you want - you're entitled to your opinion, as is everyone else.

                Enjoy your soapbox.

                "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2004

                by LilithGardener on Mon Feb 25, 2013 at 04:09:32 PM PST

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                •  It's pretty obvious (0+ / 0-)

                  who's on a soapbox here.  

                  All of your statements to the contrary, this is what you said:

                  "He admitted he killed her, the only question of presumption is about the definition of premeditation."

                  You stated this as fact.  It is not.

                  Now, your comment above this does state that this is your opinion.  That is a reasonable statement.

    •  It's not a scandal, it's a killing - call it what (1+ / 0-)
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      it is. He's presumed innocent of murder until convicted, but he did admit to a killing.

  •  John McCain story today gave me the warm fuzzies (6+ / 0-)

    After watching him be an insane, out of control Old Man Yelling At Cloud actively working to destroy the country he swore to faithfully serve for the past 4 years, it was such poetic justice and great popcorn munching entertainment to see the monsters he created turn on him. Especially with his enormous ego, I can imagine his thoughts as Emperor John had to stand there and get yelled out by what he must have considered old, insane, loser 'little people'.

    Still one of my favorite mashups;

    Bqhatevwr, dude. Srsly. Bqhatevwr.

    by Fordmandalay on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 08:48:07 PM PST

  •  Took in a shitty gun and got a shitty pizza... (4+ / 0-)
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    JeffW, Jeff Y, Miggles, Eric Nelson

    A Poet is at the same time a force for Solidarity and for Solitude -- Pablo Neruda / Netroots Radio podcasts of The After Show with Wink & Justice can be found on Stitcher

    by justiceputnam on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 09:11:29 PM PST

    •  I just discovered that Netroots Radio (2+ / 0-)
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      justiceputnam, Eric Nelson

      also is available through the iTunes app on my Mac -- I should listen more often when working at the desktop. (Mom-in-law has said she'll help us buy a new laptop since ours is dying; I'm hoping she'll go for a MacBook Air so I can have that for NN13. It's cheaper than a MacBook Pro and I've decided to leave off a lot of the programs I had and just use it for word processing and basic image adjustment, maybe casual games.

      There's only one rule that I know of, babies -- goddammit, you've got to be kind. -- Kurt Vonnegut

      by Cali Scribe on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 09:18:33 PM PST

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      •  Hope you do... (1+ / 0-)
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        ... next week we are expanding our reach and bringing some national voices on board; so there will be some changes in the existing schedule.

        Slow but sure, we are growing.

        A Poet is at the same time a force for Solidarity and for Solitude -- Pablo Neruda / Netroots Radio podcasts of The After Show with Wink & Justice can be found on Stitcher

        by justiceputnam on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 09:26:28 PM PST

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  •  Kossack Jon Perr has the scoop on Boehners.. (5+ / 0-)
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    ..sequester
    Jon PerrImage Hosted by ImageShack.us

    This is the last page of a powerpoint presentation Boehner delivered  to the House in July of 2011.

    So the myth about the sequester being President Obamas' idea is just BS. No surprise there.

    Jon's Diary which lays it all out didn't get that many views so just thought to pimp it a bit

    •  He always produces such substantive diaries (2+ / 0-)
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      I try to read/rec every one that I spot. He puts a lot of work into them.

      He gets front-paged now and then, I believe. "Featured writer" status, even, IIRC.

      Thanks for the link.




      Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us.
      ~ Jerry Garcia

      by DeadHead on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 10:11:57 PM PST

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  •  government can create jobs... (3+ / 0-)
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    but you have to have companies create a PAC and make donations to Republicans and then they'll probably never
    admit that government can create jobs.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/...

    somebody do a diary on this.

  •  Please help. (0+ / 0-)

    Desperately trying to publish a diary, but my mobile is not displaying any place to edit tags in the diary, and it will not publish without tags.  Thoughts?

    We're trapped in the belly of this horrible machine,

    And the machine is bleeding to death.

    by Marcus Tullius on Thu Feb 21, 2013 at 01:32:52 AM PST

  •  Reaganomics is not "fiscal crackpottery". (0+ / 0-)

    It did exactly what it was intended to do, siphon more money to the already rich. Mission accomplished as it were. The question is when will most Americans realize that the reason  the "rain" smells like piss is that republicans and some Democrats, have been urinating on them for the last 20 years. Clueless Fox News viewers, limbaugh listeners and their ilk will continue to appreciate the warm shower.

    "Remember, Republican economic policies quadrupled the debt before I took office and doubled it after I left. We simply can't afford to double-down on trickle-down." Bill Clinton

    by irate on Thu Feb 21, 2013 at 02:06:24 AM PST

  •  It's just their brains...they can't help it. (0+ / 0-)

    I was going to do a diary on this really good study presented at AAAS, but HuffPo obviously had a reporter with a brain.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

    Turns out they can't help it!

  •  Ogallala's Gonna Git 'Em All (1+ / 0-)
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    Long before "Conservatives" leave their paranoid schizophrenia, climate change and their relentless Earth exploitation is going to run them from their homes. Before Biloxi and the rest of the Gulf Coast is permanently submerged, though amidst plenty of Katrina/Sandy superstorms and "once in a lifetime" river floods, they're going to run out of water.

    The Ogallala Aquifer is the source for most of the agricultural, industrial and urban water starting just south of Texas' Panhandle, through all of eastern New Mexico and western Oklahoma, eastern  Colorado and western Kansas, all of Nebraska, southeast Wyoming and southern South Dakota. About 27% of the US irrigated land is fed by the Ogallala, along with 82% of the over 2 million people who live on the High Plains.

    When the Ogallala Aquifer dries up, most of the agriculture that makes the Midwest (to some) worth living in will be a Dust Bowl again. Cities, towns, and doomsday bunkers will be abandoned in search of water to live. The millions displaced will first try to find a place among their own outside the crater, which will just drag those places down. An orgy of "libertarian" gunfire, combined with the typical squeeze for welfare.

    Who knows whether these lunatics will keep some recombinant form of "Conservatism", or whether the Republican Party's corporate sponsors will exploit the crisis to gain even more power. But the actual base will be forced off its land and away from whatever lifestyle it's been "conserving" for the century and a half since it was forced to trade live slaves for dead Indians.

    Probably they'll sink deeper into the theocratic warlordism that their spiritual twins in the wastes from Arabia through Central Asia have made their own.

    "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

    by DocGonzo on Thu Feb 21, 2013 at 05:08:59 AM PST

  •  Don't dis Mississippi (0+ / 0-)

    We are tired of this. Why the other day I picked up an old Stephen King book and damn if there wasn't a story in there with a scary guy who has Mississippi plates on his car.  That is your idea of scary, a guy with Mississippi plates on his car.  Lots of people got Mississippi plates on their cars. Also on their dump trucks with Rebel flags and rifle racks and boxes of ammo in the back seat and "Forget, hell" bumper stickers.  I do not think of that as scary.  You know what is scary is the liberal left wing communist atheist socialist hippie colored federal government coming to take away our guns and our Bibles and our daughters is what is scary.  It is unconstitutional and if you try any of that commie hippie colored pervert federal stuff we will defend the sovereignty of our great state.  That happens to be southern Virginia but I bet Mississippi will say the same.

  •  I wonder which Mississippi Legislators (1+ / 0-)
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    JeffW

    chose NOT TO VOTE FOR RATIFICATION in 1995?

    From the first link:

    [After taking his family to see the film Lincoln,] Sullivan had tears in his eyes, overwhelmed.

    He knew he would do what he could to ensure his native state officially ratified the amendment. “I felt very connected to the history,” he said.

    He tracked down a copy of the 1995 Senate resolution, introduced by state Sen. Hillman Frazier, D-Jackson, who had been upset to learn Mississippi was the only state that had never ratified the 13th Amendment.

    The resolution passed both the Mississippi Senate and House.

    “It was unanimous,” Frazier recalled. “Some didn’t vote, but we didn’t receive a ‘nay’ vote.”

    In 1995!  Who was in the Mississippi Legislature in 1995? Who refused to vote for ratification of the 13th Amendment?
  •  The words 'progress' and 'Mississippi' first time (1+ / 0-)
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    JeffW

    ever that they were used in a sentence together.

  •  My browser can't find Wikipedia - hacked? (0+ / 0-)

    There were reports Apple and Facebook were hacked in the last day or so, now Wiki?

    There's no such thing as a free market!

    by Albanius on Thu Feb 21, 2013 at 09:58:57 AM PST

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