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"Sometimes, even I believe my lies."
During Speaker of the House John Boehner's Sunday appearance on Meet the Press, host David Gregory did a fairly good job of holding Boehner's feet to the fire and challenging some of his more obvious misstatements ... but Gregory did miss the boat on this one:
SPEAKER JOHN BOEHNER: Now listen, we've known about this for 16 months. And yet even today, there's no plan from Senate Democrats or the White House to replace the sequester. And over the last 10 months, House Republicans have acted twice to replace the sequester. There are smarter ways to cut spending than these automatic across the board...

DAVID GREGORY: But Mr. Speaker that's just not true. They've made it very clearly, as the president just did, that he has a plan that he's put forward that involves entitlement cuts, that involves spending cuts, that you've made a choice as have Republicans to leave tax loopholes in place. And you'd rather have those and live with all these arbitrary cuts...
(OVERTALK)

SPEAKER JOHN BOEHNER: Well, David that's just nonsense. If he had a plan, why wouldn't Senate Democrats go ahead and pass it?

Gregory pivoted to tax revenues at that point, missing the very obvious response: Senate Democrats did vote for a plan. But Senate Republicans filibustered it. Just as they've filibustered every major piece of legislation that's come down the pike over the past four years.

So close, Mr. Gregory, so close.

Originally posted to Barbara Morrill on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 06:24 AM PST.

Also republished by Daily Kos.

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  •  Yup, must reinforce "Both Sides Do It" (18+ / 0-)

    Therefore, why bother voting, because both sides are just as guilty...

    Doesn't help when our side keeps being "reasonable" to insanity.

    I don't blame Christians. I blame Stupid. Which sadly is a much more popular religion these days.

    by detroitmechworks on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 06:26:48 AM PST

  •  ummmm, Mr. Speaker? (17+ / 0-)

    I was taught that the House has to pass bills first and send them to the Senate.

    Me thinks you need to get off your a$$ and do your job, instead of posturing.

  •  Loopholes is spending too Boner. (5+ / 0-)
  •  Close only counts (4+ / 0-)

    in horseshoes and hand grenades

    •  And... (0+ / 0-)

      backseat at the drive-in :-)

      Shows how old I am.

      "I'm totally pro-choice in the matter of abortion. But of course I'm also so radically pro-life that I think every person from birth onward must have full and affordable access to healthcare." - Gail Collins

      by gritsngumbo on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 01:16:29 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  Make sure to thank Harry Reid again for this... (6+ / 0-)

    This is all theater.  Obama and Reid want to cut entitlements but want to try and blame the GOP for it.  

    Boehner is right - Senate Dems didn't pass any bill.  They could have if they reformed the filibuster but the Senate Dems and Senate Dems alone didn't want that responsibility so kept the filibuster to allow the GOP to block them, so "we have no choice but to compromise with the evil GOP".  

    If you're not talking about what billionaire hedgefund bankster Peter G. Peterson is up to you're having the wrong conversations.

    by Jacoby Jonze on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 06:40:49 AM PST

    •  You have any proof of that Jacoby? (4+ / 0-)

      I see this said from time to time but what I don't see is why?  What would possibly be the motivation for Barack Obama and Congressional Dems to keep the status quo and have some devious plan in place to "cut entitlements".  I see no real benefit whatsoever to 1. Their personal finances or 2. To their future power.  If this corporatist conspiracy you infer existed, why even pretend?  The theft could have easily occurred without all the drama the day he roared into office.  They could have just let the country fall into depression, no push for health care reform, no auto bailout, no jobs bill push, no liberal Supreme Court nominations, no draw down of troops, and the pieces would have been in place to rob all the entitlement funds, turn the country into a jobless wasteland, and those in power could have just sunk away into a comfortable lifestyle buoyed by the payoffs from their corporate masters.  

      You know when you look at it that way, what you propose is the ultimate CT, a more complex plan or sleight of hand than would have been required for a faked moonshot.

      "A celibate clergy is an especially good idea, because it tends to suppress any hereditary propensity toward fanaticism." -- Carl Sagan

      by artmartin on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 07:22:42 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  GOP gambling it won't be held accountable... (2+ / 0-)
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    by the general electorate in 2014 House and Senate races for being the primary factor responsible for deliberately blocking solution to federal budgetary problems and public service interruptions.  Thanks in substantial part to congressional district gerrymandering they were positioned to do by the 2010 elections, they got by just-enough in the 2012 elections to insulate themselves from accountability so far, with an assist from the bumbling both-sides-do-it slant to media coverage.

    It remains to be seen whether the public will be prodded not merelyh into sufficient annoyance and attention, but for enough to make correct conclusions to make 2014 enough of a "wave" election for the dems to retake control of the house and retain control of the Senate, contrary to long-term trends in 6th year elections of two-term presidents.  I certainly hope so, but for this to happen, there's lots of political and media inertia that has to be overcome.  Unfortunately, so far (2010 especially) the GOP's gamble on non-accountability for their strategy of total sabotage of government has paid off well enough for it to work.

  •  Lying is just accepted now (9+ / 0-)

    The press really isn't about the truth anymore. They might as well just be a press release service by now.

    It is possible to read the history of this country as one long struggle to extend the liberties established in our Constitution to everyone in America. - Molly Ivins

    by se portland on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 06:45:33 AM PST

  •  We need to get the 2014 Congressional campaigns (4+ / 0-)

    moving NOW. Dump these chumps and return the gavel to Nancy.
    Then and only then will we get the traction to move forward. Make Obama's final two years actually work.

    If I ran this circus, things would be DIFFERENT!

    by CwV on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 06:46:13 AM PST

  •  Boehner got 98% of what he wanted (3+ / 0-)

    in the Sequester.  Why in the world would anyone think he is going to negotiate in good faith when he already has 98% of what he wanted??

  •  "Obama already got his tax increases." (8+ / 0-)

    Um, no, Mr. Squeaker. The president prevented the tax increases your side engineered in 2001. Sorry not all your cronies didn't get all the sugar they wanted.

    Republicans represent both sides: the insanely rich and vice versa.

    by Crashing Vor on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 06:47:49 AM PST

  •  Gregory is never capable of a homerun because (4+ / 0-)

    those bunts are enough for him.  Had he brought up the filibuster the conversation would have snoozed out the politichat-weary and would have highlighted the dysfunction in both the House and Senate.  This would chip away at Sunday Morning's Sacred Access to DC talkers.  Gregory thinks he needs this even though most who watch MSNBC no longer are interested in the exhibitionists of both houses.

    Building a better America with activism, cooperation, ingenuity and snacks.

    by judyms9 on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 06:49:35 AM PST

  •  That is classic Gregory when at his best: (10+ / 0-)

    A good follow-up, with a call-out....just so he can say he did his job.  Then, no real follow-up when needed, and let the lying liar have the last word.

    Gregory at his best....unless he is hosting the Morning Show and dancing, or something journalistically important like that.

    Ayn is the bane! Take the Antidote To Ayn Rand and call your doctor in the morning: You have health insurance now! @floydbluealdus1

    by Floyd Blue on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 06:50:32 AM PST

  •  David Gregory's favorite follow-up question (18+ / 0-)
    I want to talk about something else.

    Sunday mornings are more beautiful without Meet the Press.

    by deben on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 06:50:59 AM PST

  •  I spit my coffee up when that idiot's pic came up (2+ / 0-)
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    when I opened up Dailykos this morning

    80 % of Success is Just Showing Up! CLIMATE CHANGE: The era of procrastination, half-measures & delays is coming to an end; In its place we are entering a period of consequences!

    by Churchill on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 06:56:52 AM PST

  •  Journalists today have no sense of history (7+ / 0-)

    Murrow, Cronkite, Huntley, Didion, Herbert, Moyers, Winchell...
    The list goes on and on.
    What did they have in common?  They weren't afraid to ask hard questions and didn't care about some producer screaming in their ear that it was time to go to commercial.
    To them news was not theater... it was an important addition to the public conversation.

    "Please don't dominate the rap Jack, if you got nothing new to say." - Robert Hunter

    by WSComn on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 07:01:15 AM PST

    •  Thank God you didn't put Woodward on that list! (2+ / 0-)
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      He may have started out there but, man, he has gone over to the dark side and is pushing for a leadership position.

      ... like tears in rain

      by bladerunner on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 08:00:04 AM PST

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    •  For much of my teaching career (3+ / 0-)
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      way back when (I am retired), I used to tell my young students (middle school age) that "an independent press" was a key component that kept democracy working.  As long as our media (tv and print back then) remained unconnected to government/corporations we, the people, could find sources for speaking truth to power.

      How sad that now I feel I would, if I could, go back and warn my students, "do not trust the media....beware that they can be and will be bought and paid for by huge corporations and they will be willing to sell out the people to line their own pockets."

      Maybe I was naive but at one time in my young life, (during things like Watergate, during the protests against the draft, the fights for civil rights, women's rights) I believed that we, the people, had survived the McCarthyism of my parents' era, the Nixonian craziness and had moved forward in people power.  Coming of age in the 1960s, I protested, I was an active citizen, and I taught that way, not telling students what to believe but rather that being an active, informed participant in democracy was crucial.
      I never imagined we would go back to McCarthyism...on steroids no less.

      I cried the day Reagan was elected.  To me, that was the turning point.  I had a sense of foreboding that something really wrong would be the result and for thirty years I have watched (still staying active myself) as the right grew in power, aided by extreme right wingers, and weak spineless democrats.  I fear for us all now.  I am not sure we can undo what started in 1980 -think Scalia.  I want to believe we can use social media and the web to get our the truth but the power of corporate media is frightening.   So many of my peers (agewise) don't bother challenging the media on television believing it has not changed that much.  And even my more centrist left leaning peers, don't quite want to admit that electing Reagan was a bad thing.   I cannot believe how many of them have bought into the Reagan mythology.  Maybe it is their own guilt.
       They see Brokaw and give him the same credence given to Cronkite...they think MTP and Face the Nation and This Week are the same shows they were before corporations bought out the networks. Half of them don't even know that the networks are now small pieces of huge international corporations who basically never want "the people" to have their democracy.

      Scary and sad....for me anyway.  Sometimes I really wonder if we can change this destructive path at all.  I voted for Obama and frankly, I don't see him as much different than Clinton.  I knew when I voted for Clinton he was a centrist.......but it was at least a move to the left a little coming off the Reagan/Bush years.   Then we the SCOTUS stole the 2000 election and people just accepted it,  I was stunned.   I saw Hillary and Barack as pretty much the same. I know, I know, Hillary was for Iraq but other than that they were no different and in fact, I think Hillary was left of Barack on some things.  But I am OK with that because I think we have to nudge and nudge to the left before we can actually elect a Bernie Sanders or an Alan Grayson.   Now, I really don't know.  With the help of the media, the corporate powers that give any and every  crazy on the right credence,  the spineless concessions of the left, the inability of the president or the democratic side of Congress to call out the craziness, to really play hardball with these a**hates, I wonder if we have any chance at all.

      “We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both.” Louis D. Brandeis

      by Jjc2006 on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 08:45:51 AM PST

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    •  But those journalists didn't care about "access", (1+ / 0-)
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      the current currency in the Village these days.  It is more important to get Boner on the show than it is to have Boner actually say something, or perhaps confront him when the absolute bullshit starts to flow.

      It's all just a bunch of loose ends flapping in the breeze.

      And it feels like I'm livin'in the wasteland of the free ~ Iris DeMent, 1996

      by MrJersey on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 11:00:17 AM PST

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  •  So, we're left with the question, (3+ / 0-)
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    artmartin, OleHippieChick, MrJersey

    if he can't see an obvious follow-up question that's right in front of him, can he see stop lights and stop signs and other road signs?

    In the interests of safety, it should be determined whether David Gregory should be allowed to drive motor vehicles on the nation's highways.  

  •  And on "we have acted twice to replace sequester." (4+ / 0-)

    When is someone going to point out this was from the last congress and has nothing to do with this congress. If you want it to have any validity with the senate, the President or the public in negotiations, you have to pass it again. Thing is most think he would not be able to in the new congress with the new Dems that now have seats. In other words it's bull crap that they passed it twice before.

    •  Are the interviewers ignorant of these major (0+ / 0-)

      questions/issues (that was the lat Congress, Speaker!) or are they afraid to directly confront, or are there time constraints because of the overwhelming importance of the fucking commercials which are the major part of the shows?

      Or are people like Gregory walking a fine line to maintain access with the so-called elites while still barely being TV journalists?

      All in all, compared to the BBC,Al Jazeera,  French TV, even the show GPS on CNN and a few others, most of these interviwers let us down each and every time they interview a major politician.

      •  Yes. (1+ / 0-)
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        MrJersey

        The answer to your questions is a single, all-encompassing, "yes."

        Yes, the interviewers are likely ignorant of basic civic procedure.

        Yes, the interviewers are likely afraid to directly confront the (R) guests they have on their bobble-head shows.

        Yes, the interviewers are under monstrous time constraints, due to the overwhelming importance of the corporations that buy and pay for the airtime on which the interview runs.

        And yes, people like Gregory are walking with one foot in journalism, and the other in schill-dom.

        We all know what happens if you straddle the lane divider in traffic.

  •  Close only counts in what again? (1+ / 0-)
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    MrJersey

    If only our collective will could push him to ask the obvious. Can't watch MTP anymore, the teeth clenching gives me a headache - every Sunday hoping for a home run and getting a whiff, the constant let down causes unnecessary stress.

    Organizing is what you do before you do something, so that when you do it, it is not all mixed up. A. A. Milne

    by hulibow on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 07:02:38 AM PST

  •  are there 17 GOP-held seats in toss-up districts? (1+ / 0-)
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    OleHippieChick

    I didn't think there were that many.

    80 % of Success is Just Showing Up! CLIMATE CHANGE: The era of procrastination, half-measures & delays is coming to an end; In its place we are entering a period of consequences!

    by Churchill on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 07:03:32 AM PST

  •  re: Blind squirrels and nuts. /nt (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    a2nite

    Happy little moron, Lucky little man.
    I wish I was a moron, MY GOD, Perhaps I am!
    —Spike Milligan

    by polecat on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 07:04:09 AM PST

  •  We're having the wrong debate (2+ / 0-)
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    Simplify, MrJersey

    And that's intentional on the part of leaders in both parties and the special interests who own them. Instead of the debate we should be having, between maintaining current tax and spending levels that undertax the rich, overspend on corporate welfare and defense (which includes corporate welfare) and underspend on infrastructure and needed services for the poor and middle class, and reversing this, we're having a fake debate--by design--between those who want to destroy the New Deal and those who merely want to trim it. This is all political theater, Kabuki, intended to push the goalposts rightward so that we end up with a "compromise" that isn't quite as bad as what the Repubs want, but still far worse than it could and should be, and we can all breath a sigh of relief that the republic is saved. Except it's not.

    We're being played for suckers by people who are experts at it, and who appear to rather enjoy it. On BOTH sides of the aisle (and Pennsylvania Ave).

    Take away social issues, and the differences between the parties are mostly ones of degree and competence, not core values. They both want to reward the rich and screw everyone else, only one is being "nicer" about it.

    "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

    by kovie on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 07:10:35 AM PST

  •  So Infuriating! (3+ / 0-)

    Not only did he not get called out on the Republican filibuster blocking a Senate Sequester Replacement Bill from getting to the House (which had 51 votes BTW), he also got away with this:

    And over the last 10 months, House Republicans have acted twice to replace the sequester.
    Those House bills were all passed last year by the previous Congress and cannot be taken up by the current Senate because it is not allowed by that little old thing called the CONSTITUTION.  Those bills are dead and Boehner knows it (or should know it).

    "Some men see things as they are and ask, 'Why?' I dream of things that never were and ask, 'Why not?"

    by Doctor Who on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 07:12:35 AM PST

  •  Almost is as close as... (6+ / 0-)

    David Gregory will ever get.

    Otherwise, he might actually, accidentally, tell the truth.

    Then he'd never get to go anywhere with the "cool kids"

  •  he complements himself at the end (2+ / 0-)
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    david, if you're reading:
    R's run up spending more than D's - should have been challenge 1

    R's mean cutting SS by spending.  that fund is balanced today.  what's up with hostage/crisis talks for a fund that is out of balance in 10 years - challenge 2

    'the thing everyone knows' is there's a huge inequality in the system, and tax reductions on the rich or anybody isn't going to do much - challenge 3

    i think gregory is several orders of magnitude better now than say 2 years ago, but is still a lost pundit in the desert

    what lincoln said http://cleantechnica.com/2012/10/10/abraham-lincoln-was-on-to-wind-power-long-before-the-rest/

    by rasfrome on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 07:15:54 AM PST

  •  only "close" (0+ / 0-)

    when a miss is as good as a mile

    sort of like being "just a little bit pregnant"

    "Show up. Pay attention. Tell the truth. And don't be attached to the results." -- Angeles Arrien

    by Sybil Liberty on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 07:17:46 AM PST

  •  I have to wonder (1+ / 0-)
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    Heavy Mettle

    Why Gregory failed to call Boehner on this obvious lie?  The GOP's filibustering is the principle reason why nothing is getting done.  Additionally, Gregory should have also called Boehner on his sayint the House passed two bills.  Although true, they were passed in the last congress and no longer valid.

    •  Item 1 on Gregory's job description (0+ / 0-)

      is to not call Republicans on obvious lies.  If he did that, it would upset the big sponsors, who love it when Republicans get to perpetuate lies.  Plus, Boner and McTurtle might not come on his little show anymore, and then what would he do?  He might not even get invited to the Caucus Room for lunch and drinks with Paul Ryan any more.

      "A standing military force, with an overgrown Executive will not long be safe companions to liberty. The means of defence agst. foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home." - James Madison

      by gharlane on Wed Mar 06, 2013 at 12:37:25 AM PST

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  •  It is just outrageous (5+ / 0-)

    ...that the mainstream press is accepting the Republican meme that the Senate/President has no plan. Especially in light of the fact that a majority of the Senate voted for a plan late last week, which was filibustered by Republicans.
    It's like crying that you're an orphan after you murdered your parents.

  •  Boehner translated: (2+ / 0-)
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    Silly Gregory, don't step on my talking point! And so he complied.

    Well, David that's just nonsense. If he had a plan, why wouldn't Senate Democrats go ahead and pass it?
  •  Gregory's a dope (1+ / 0-)
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    a2nite

    NBC should replace him with Lawrence O'Donnell.

  •  This is what passes for a 'challenge' in today's (1+ / 0-)
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    eXtina

    media

  •  I think the interview shows the difficulty (1+ / 0-)
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    a2nite

    the House GOP will have in maintaining credibility on this issue.    It's easy to pound one's chest before the actual cuts have taken place.  It's quite another to maintain that stance once real people and real jobs are affected.  At a macro-level, even Mitt Romney agreed that taking federal money out of the system would hurt overall economic growth.  

    Alternative rock with something to say: http://www.myspace.com/globalshakedown

    by khyber900 on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 07:38:51 AM PST

  •  The Bush Tax cuts Boehner originally voted for (0+ / 0-)

    also had the sunset clause.  Meaning that in 2001 Boehner and 210 other House Republicans, in essence, pre-approved the January 2013 "tax increase" he is now lying about.

    Of course, this is a purely cynical political calculation by the GOP.  If this were 2014, they wouldn't be doing this, because of the risk of getting their asses handed to them in the election.  They are counting on the voting public to have short memories, and will inflict as much damage as they can right now.

    After all, as that sage of NPR, Cokie Roberts, said this morning, if the economy falters, the President will get the blame.  In Cokie's world, the vandals who are doing their damnedest to wreck the economy will get a free pass.  There goes that "liberal" media again.

  •  I'm confused (0+ / 0-)

    Are liberals supposed to be happy that Obama is proposing entitlement cuts? That's our rallying cry on this issue?

  •  So close?!!? (0+ / 0-)

    Not even close!!  Not even in the ballpark!  Gregory does what he always does.  Starts out on sound footing then suddenly a sinkhole takes his brain and he's left with nothing except to start a different line of questioning.  He NEVER finishes a thought. It's always 90% there then, uh-oh, I better watch my step lest I offend my guest by actually confronting them with a real conclusion/question.  Except when it's Democrat.  Then for some odd reason, his brain keeps on ticking.  What up with dat, eh?

    ... like tears in rain

    by bladerunner on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 07:52:28 AM PST

  •  David is a rotten RW tool nt (0+ / 0-)
  •  The Senate didn't pass a bill... (1+ / 0-)
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    AllanTBG

    because Harry Reid and other Senate Democrats refused to push through meaningful filibuster reform.

    Because of this Bohner an can away with claiming the Senate did not pass a bill and not look any more of an idiot than he already is.

    By putting the onus on the Senate to come up with something he new exactly what he was doing; he knew very well it would never get 60 votes.

    But let's put the ultimate responsibility for this where it belongs -- on Reid and other Senate Dems who didn't have the sense to see this (or plenty of future filibusters) coming, or dedcided that this shit was fine with them.

    The dynamic of the sequester would have changed significantly had the Senate actually passed a bill. But Boehner knew that would never happen, so he was more than happy to keep saying "the Senate must act."

    And he can continue this little game for lots of stuff into the future (his bluff did get called with VAVA; notice the  dyamic there.  The Senate bill actually got a vote and passed in the House because a) it did pass the Senate filibuster nonwithstanding and b) the optics were so bad)

  •  "Close?" Come On! (0+ / 0-)

    "So close, Mr. Gregory, so close."

    But "close" only counts in horseshoes.  It is a non-entity when discussing public policy.  I wish I could be as sanguine as Barbara Morrill is about Gregory's performance, but, based on the snippet of transcript given above, my reaction is that yet again David Gregory was asleep at the switch with a fast freight train coming with the switch set against it.  The fact that Gregory did not pursue this line of questioning proves to me that his questions were nothing but big cantalopes lobbed up to the plate and nothing more.

  •  Boehner acts like he's talking to a bunch of kids (0+ / 0-)

    (maybe fitting for his own caucus) - but with his pompous and lecturing attitude - the speaker does more to sink the GOP cause more than most.

    In a capitalist democracy - every dollar is a "vote" ... spend wisely ...

    by RUNDOWN on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 08:20:29 AM PST

    •  Second time today (0+ / 0-)

      someone mentioned Republican party leaders "talking down" to their constituency.

      That's an interesting thought.  Diary worthy, you think?

      Perhaps examining what the thought process is behind it, and why it seems to work? Liberally (HA!) sprinkled with citations, links, and other evidence to support the postulate.

      Hmm....

  •  US media, especially Cable News Channels (0+ / 0-)

    almost never follow up carefully with questions/answers in an interview.  I watch and it is infuriating.  They let  obviously ridiculous and inane answers go without clarifying or confronting.  Gregory does it all the time.  All the newsreaders and spokesmodels on the cable news channels do it - because - I think they are too dumb to understand things the way a thoughtful and informed viewer who loves politics understands.  Many are undereducated and have no sense of history or context and it is obvious they don't have a clue as to the subject matter they are attempting to cover.  There is one at MSNBC who is beyond the pae - Alec Witt (Weekends).  She is always in way over her head and  is simpy silly.  There are silly males also, believe me - Fox & Friends is a farce - with two male clowns.  Fox News Channel is a total disaster - a hatefest against the president and all things Progressive/Liberal.  I cannot watch it.

    Finally, I have noticed there are many young so-called "analysts" and "strategists" appearing regularly on cable news who are do not have adequate diction and do not speak in a sure and clear way so as to be understood.  Public Speaking was a universally chosen course when I went to college - as it truly helped everyone to present and think in a mindful and clear way.  Certain cable news persons slur their words and speak so quickly and without diction that they are unintelligible.

  •  I am going to say something that may not go (0+ / 0-)

    over well...

    But Boehner kind of has a point. He is factually wrong, but the point he is making is Senate Dems haven't brought the President's plan to the floor for cloture (THANK GOODNESS).

    But he is right the Senate Dems know the President's plan is toxic to Dems and Republicans.  Toxic.  

    So maybe the President should offer the Senate Dems plan, and stop putting entitlements on the table.

    And be careful...if you say that will make him look like the he is not compromising, tell me how that differs from what is being said about him now?

    "Small Businesses Don't Build Levees" - Melissa Harris Perry

    by justmy2 on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 08:45:58 AM PST

  •  Technically he's right (0+ / 0-)

    a plan didn't pass. And don't forget to add Hagan, Landrieu and Pryor to list of obstruction.

  •  When you fail to pass Filibuster Reform (1+ / 0-)
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    MrJersey

    When you fail to pass filibuster reform, you own ALL the votes that get filibustered.  Senate Democrats ARE to blame for Republican filibusters.

    http://www.archives.gov/...

  •  Is it like baseball ump calls? (1+ / 0-)
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    Remediator

    I've heard some say Gregory's performances are like baseball umps ... add them up and it becomes pretty even for both sides, but it really seems that he lets GOP leaders "overspeak" change the subject and simply ignore and not answer the questions we all want to hear answered.

    Women are 51% of the population yet are represented in congress by barely 17%! Until our representation reflects the population, we risk sliding backwards .....

    by 51percent on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 09:24:46 AM PST

    •  They would be like baseball ump calls, if in (1+ / 0-)
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      Remediator

      baseball, the umps were paid and trained by the bookies who had billions riding on the World Series.  Gregory's performance is nuanced enough to us to think he is stupid and not following the dictates of the corporate profit center who is paying his rent.

      And it feels like I'm livin'in the wasteland of the free ~ Iris DeMent, 1996

      by MrJersey on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 11:08:33 AM PST

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  •  Left foot on blue... (0+ / 0-)

    The way that "Gregory pivoted" after those three paragraphs is exactly how he operates whenever he gets even a little too close to pressuring a 'winger guest.

    Even though Gregory's a rather tall guy, he's still the all-time Beltway Press Corps Twister Champion.

  •  So? (0+ / 0-)

    This is the stuff or modern American politics.

    The news media, for the most part, is as much a part of the problem as any other institution. They rarely, if ever, elucidate, preferring to reduce news and information to happy-talk gossip.

    The US press is useless. All it does is parrot government information, with little analysis. If Gregory were asking tough questions, no one would come on the show. He knows that. The pols know the power they hold, and they all go to the same parties, have good health insurance, 6 or 7 figure incomes, vacation in the same places and are all part of the ruling glass. No one is concerned in any real way with protecting the public by providing the needed information in a timely fashion and in a useful manner.

    The pols are interested in power, impact and effecting permanent change on this country. The press are mere acolytes. If they have any impact, it's purely happenstance. Speaking of Bob Woodward, see Watergate.

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