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NOAA satellite image, 03/06/2013
A band of pretty colors is expected to make its way down the east coast today.
Residents are advised to dress in neutral tones so as not to clash.
So there was this:
The House Science, Space and Technology subcommittee on Environment was scheduled to hear from a panel that included a pair of witnesses more skeptical of some of the scientific consensus regarding climate change.
But it's been called off due to weather. Specifically, due to the current winter storm in Washington. Hey, these people don't like to work late on Thursdays, you think they're going to work on a snow day?
Some climate scientists contend weather patterns like the one Washington is forecast to experience correlates with climate change. They argue climate change will make snowfall more irregular while producing heavier hitting blizzards.
Yes, but everybody knows that when it snows that proves climate change isn't real, because I'm fairly certain we passed a law saying so.

Well, I think we've seen what will happen in our new, climate-change-fueled future. The weather will suck, but since the weather sucks nobody will want to go to the meetings talking about it. Problem solved.

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  •  the irony and karma is entirely too much (16+ / 0-)

    i wonder if the GOP and climate deniers will take a hint this time?

    In the time that I have been given,
    I am what I am

    by duhban on Wed Mar 06, 2013 at 04:05:48 PM PST

    •  No, of course not. (6+ / 0-)

      It's not like they're waiting around for proof.

      The most violent element in society is ignorance.

      by Mr MadAsHell on Wed Mar 06, 2013 at 04:06:45 PM PST

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    •  It's gonna take them a whlie. (2+ / 0-)
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      duhban, citisven

      They're still soaked in self-delusion and brainwashing.....likewise, it will probably also take a while for climate doomers to realize that, no, we're not at risk of extinction, civiilization isn't going to fall apart a la Mad Max at any point in our lifetimes due to just AGW; and yes, we can still mitigate climate change and that we ARE making progress, even if it's hard to see sometimes.

      Unfortunately, the heads of the mass media, it seems, props up both extremes whenever it's convenient: usually the deniers' agitprop, but sometimes, they'll let out a doomer Chicken Little screed not only to try to fool us into thinking that they might just care about it, but in the case of the conservative wingnuts, like Faux News or WND, to make us ALL look like nutters(and I've begun to wonder if some of the most absolutely extreme doom-and-gloomers may not be so well-intentioned: James Wells had an excellent diary on here, called the "Ringwraiths of Despair" a little while back.).

      •  STOP IT! (3+ / 0-)
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        Steve Canella, WarrenS, citisven

        Stop it.
        Stop it.
        Stop it.
        Stop it.

        Stop using logic and rational thought.

        These are GOPers and TeaBuggerers we are dealing with. Most of them are immune to truthiness, facts, and contrary data.

        What we call god is merely a living creature with superior technology & understanding. If their fragile egos demand prayer, they lose that superiority.

        by agnostic on Wed Mar 06, 2013 at 04:30:05 PM PST

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        •  Heh, thanks, agnostic. (1+ / 0-)
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          TBH, I try not to be as hard on the doomers; most of the average Joes and Janes amongst them are okay people, I think; they've just been used, and the same also goes for many of their figureheads as well.

          But I think most of us can agree on one thing; sadly, most of the deniers are pretty much in the pay of the Establishment; they are unwilling to let the facts & assorted data stand in the way of Big Oil's profits.....after all, why else did biofuels and other renewables have such substantial trouble taking off?

          Big Oil basically had them silenced and suppressed(might also be part of the reason why Jimmy Carter got screwed outta his second term!) while the denier talking heads kept using excuses like "The economy would DIIIIEEE!!!1!one!11one!" or trotting out the Jevons' Paradox and other wacko ideas, anything to stop us from reducing fossil fuel consumption and to get the economy going again.....

  •  You forgot to make the obligatory mention (4+ / 0-)

    of Al Gore's belt size.

    ad astra per alia porci

    by harrije on Wed Mar 06, 2013 at 04:06:53 PM PST

  •  Sadly it could be the human race's epitaph (8+ / 0-)

    "Cancelled because of the weather."

    Oh well, I'm sure what ever life form emerges to take our place will vote Republican so it's all good from their perspective.

    You can't assassinate the character of any of modern conservative. You'd have to find where it was buried, dig it up, resurrect it, then kill it. And killing a zombie isn't really assassination, is it?

    by ontheleftcoast on Wed Mar 06, 2013 at 04:11:04 PM PST

  •  even more reason (6+ / 0-)

    to stay on these guys' case. Thanks for the update, even if it's just another link in the cycle of futility.

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    Ecology is the new Economy

    by citisven on Wed Mar 06, 2013 at 04:13:17 PM PST

  •  Here's How YOU Can Help (8+ / 0-)

    Help Us Spread the Word About Climate Change

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  •  It could be pretty funny (3+ / 0-)
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    Except that it isn't.

    Common Sense is not Common

    by RustyBrown on Wed Mar 06, 2013 at 04:18:42 PM PST

  •  woooooo (2+ / 0-)
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    WarrenS, Words In Action

    an inch of snow in DC. certainly these guys have to cancel.

    anyone born after the McDLT has no business stomping around acting punk rock

    by chopper on Wed Mar 06, 2013 at 04:19:25 PM PST

  •  They simply won't get it. Cold weather= (4+ / 0-)

    proof there's no "warming." That simple-minded meme works for them and viewers of Hannity on Fox.

    "They come, they come To build a wall between us We know they won't win."--Crowded House, "Don't Dream It's Over."

    by Wildthumb on Wed Mar 06, 2013 at 04:19:32 PM PST

  •  Love the symbolism and irony in all this. n/t (3+ / 0-)
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    WarrenS, citisven, Words In Action

    If we really want to straighten out all this crap we really need to think about shit - Holy Shit.

    by John Crapper on Wed Mar 06, 2013 at 04:23:43 PM PST

  •  News they pay for but don't hear. (5+ / 0-)
    Average sea ice extent for February 2013 was 14.66 million square kilometers (5.66 million square miles). This is 980,000 square kilometers (378,000 square miles) below the 1979 to 2000 average for the month, and is the seventh-lowest February extent in the satellite record. Since 2004, the February average extent has remained below 15 million square kilometers (5.79 million square miles) every year except 2008. Prior to 2004, February average extent had never been less than 15 million square kilometers. Ice extent remains slightly below average everywhere except the Bering Sea.
    NSIDC 05Mar2013 A Fractured Winter
  •  Being this is about Climate Change and I asked (1+ / 0-)
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    Words In Action

    this question part statement in another diary about Permafrost by Beach Babe in Fl(US Scientist report big jump in heat trapping CO2) so I'll ask it here too to see if someone might know the answer "Say do all those researching this(the Permafrost) know and have taken into account that Bacteria release heat as they live and multiply and under the insulating properties of compacted material it gets very hot in fact hot enough to start fires like in barns with wet hay and to see this in action stick your hand in a pile of grass-clipping a couple days after it's been mowed,so if this happens in permafrost also as I suspect then the heat will come not just from the air and sunshine but from inside the thawing permafrost itself and that can speed things up really fast."? and also this got me to thinking about another heat producing reaction that can lead to what's known as Spontaneous Combustion(which won't happen hopefully in the very wet thawing permafrost but will also supply heat enough to melt the frozen material)and that is caused by having organic Material in an insulated place like Oily Rags in a trash can slowly oxidize releasing heat that builds up because it can't escape but in the permafrost the heat would go into melting the frozen water I'm guessing.Oh and both of these processes have even set Sawdust Piles at some Sawmills where I grew up on "fire"(those piles don't burn with a flame except at times mostly they smoke a lot and inside smolder for months,one pile was so large it "burned" for almost 2 years) along with Lighting.

    •  I'm no scientist (2+ / 0-)
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      defluxion10, Words In Action

      I have dug (in some cases drilled and blasted) a lot of holes in areas of permafrost soils.  From what I recall, there was a fairly thin layer of organics (mosses, lichens, rotted vegetation, roots) overlying a couple of feet of silt and clay, and then gravel forever, or at least far deeper than I needed to dig.  That was mostly in the upper Susitna-Talkeetna and the Copper-Chitina river drainages in Alaska.  That was a lot of years ago.  I don't think the vegetation layer was thick enough to combust spontaneously.

      Other parts of that state, say in valleys of the Brooks Range or the Arctic Slope?  The vegetative/carbon zone can be very deep and dense, more like a frozen peat bog.  I'd guess it would be possible for it to combust if it melted, and if the water had some place to drain (too wet, and it wouldn't happen).  A lightning strike or dropped cigarette would probably be much more likely to light melted, semi-dried tundra than would be spontaneous combustion.  I could be wrong.

      My kids used to come up with questions like that, and I've always enjoyed thinking about the what ifs, maybe because I've never completely grown up.  For many years there was a smoldering coal vein at the head of Kachemak Bay, lit by lightning.  I'm not sure if it still burns.  

      The wisdom of my forebears ... Two wise people will never agree. Man begins in dust and ends in dust — meanwhile it's good to drink some vodka. A man studies until he's seventy and dies a fool.

      by Not A Bot on Wed Mar 06, 2013 at 05:40:14 PM PST

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  •  Overhyping storms (1+ / 0-)
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    has become the norm - but this one takes the cake.

    It seems to me that meteorologists should stop depending on models and start using their brains when forecasting.  

  •  Your map made me think of this Onion story (2+ / 0-)
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    WarrenS, Words In Action

    The Republican Party is now the sworn enemy of the United States of America.

    Listen to All Over The Place - we play all kinds of music!

    by TheGreatLeapForward on Wed Mar 06, 2013 at 05:23:39 PM PST

  •  Ironic indeed.... (1+ / 0-)
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    ....but the GOP doesn't do irony.

    Freedom isn't "on the march." Freedom dances.

    by WarrenS on Wed Mar 06, 2013 at 05:36:45 PM PST

  •  well, there was no snow and no storm (3+ / 0-)

    in Washington DC and all there is to it, is that they all wanted to have a day off. Everything was closed due to the hysteria any winter storm announcement in the weather forecast causes here.

    It's a big f*n shame. In our office everyone said they had never had such a good commute to work, because all the streets were empty and no snow nowhere to speak of just rain.

    Shame, shame, shame, shame.

  •  In fact, the snow did not materialize. (0+ / 0-)

    It was mostly rain.  That's 'cause it was warmer!  =:-o

  •  Speak for yourself! I love the snow! (0+ / 0-)

    I love snow! I love moisture! I'm sorry if the storm is snarling traffic.... but we shouldn't be driving or flying so much anyway.

    Climate change is advancing so rapidly that snow even in the wintertime will soon be a rare event in the US. Enjoy it while you can! Get off the computer and have a snowball fight with the kids :-)

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