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Maybe the kids won't notice ...
There's a lot to laugh at in the Republican Party autopsy on why they lost in 2012 and what they need to do going forward, but this little nugget was particularly funny: the realization that death will continue to take their aging, bigoted base and that they need to appeal to young people ... who overwhelmingly support marriage equality:
For the GOP to appeal to younger voters, we do not have to agree on every issue, but we do needto make sure young people do not see the Party as totally intolerant of alternative points of view. Already, there is a generational difference within the conservative movement about issues involving the treatment and the rights of gays — and for many younger voters, these issues are a gatewayinto whether the Party is a place they want to be. [...]

On messaging, we must change our tone — especially on certain social issues that are turning off young voters. In every session with young voters, social issues were at the forefront of thediscussion; many see them as the civil rights issues of our time. We must be a party that is welcoming and inclusive for all voters

And does this mean the Republican Party will finally embrace the "civil rights issues of our time"? Hell, no! They conclude that:
The Party should be proud of its conservative principles, but just because someone disagrees with us on 20 percent of the issues, that does not mean we cannot come together on the rest of the issues where we do agree.
So instead they'll do things like "host quarterly discussions on youth issues with Chairman Priebus, a leading GOP youth surrogate or elected official and young voters" and "establish an RNC Celebrity Task Force of personalities" (see: Rock, Kid) and will "participate in and actively prepare for interviews with The Daily Show, The Colbert Report, MTV and magazines such as People, UsWeekly, etc., as well as radio stations that are popular with the youth demographic."

... where they will continue to peddle their message of hate and intolerance on the civil rights issue of our time. Good luck with that, boys.

11:16 AM PT: Ahem:

Record high 81% of 18-29 year-olds say gay marriage should be legal in new Post-ABC poll
@postpolls via HootSuite

Originally posted to Barbara Morrill on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 10:06 AM PDT.

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  •  Good for them they put this manifesto out AFTER (15+ / 0-)

    CPAC.....If they'd put it out before, Hunter would still be alive....;-)

  •  the GOP simply doesn't understand democracy (10+ / 0-)

    and the concept of protecting individual rights

    The Party should be proud of its conservative principles, but just because someone disagrees with us on 20 percent of the issues, that does not mean we cannot come together on the rest of the issues where we do agree.
    20% makes a big post-Kinsey closet for the GOP

    Warning - some snark above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ eState4Column5©2013 Acedia is essentially a flight from the world that leads to not caring even that one does not care

    by annieli on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 10:16:18 AM PDT

  •  now THAT'S funny (12+ / 0-)

    I can just see John and Steven declining to ask these surrogates where the party is on LGBT issues, never mind this

    just because someone disagrees with us on 20 percent of the issues, that does not mean we cannot come together on the rest of the issues where we do agree.
    Folks, you have single-issue anti-abortion voters in your party. Does it not occur to you that some of the younger voters you covet so much might be single-issue voters on
    the civil rights issues of our time
    and thus unreachable unless you embrace their issues as well? None of this 20% stuff, either.

    -7.75, -8.10; . . . Seneca Falls, Selma and Stonewall (h/t cooper888)

    by Dave in Northridge on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 10:23:34 AM PDT

  •  the party of hate will not win over young voters, (14+ / 0-)

    especially if the teabaggers think they only need to change their communication style, rather than their horrendous policies.....

  •  every time they say that....... (2+ / 0-)
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  •  as long as the sexual fundamentalists and (3+ / 0-)
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    glorificus, wishingwell, nellgwen

    the Tea Party are in control of the GOP, they will never accept same sex marriage. NEVER. Think Michelle Bachmann, Sarah Palin types. You get the picture.

    •  And the weird part is that some religions who (2+ / 0-)
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      oppose gay marriage have been dealing with the difference between religious or sacramental marriage, and civil marriage, for decades.  The Catholic church teaches that marriage in the church is a sacrament, and forbids divorce.  If a couple married in the church gets an annulment, their sacramental marriage is over.  But from a legal standpoint, they must still get a civil divorce.  Similarly, if a couple married in the church gets a civil divorce, but not an annulment, they can't remarry in the church, because they are still religiously married, even though legally they are not.

      So why not just admit the obvious, that legal/civil marriage is a right to which all Americans are or ought to be entitled, and then churches can define religious marriage for their members any way they want?

      •  France (3+ / 0-)
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        In France, if you want to get married, you go before a civil official. If you want a church marriage, too, then you can get married in church, too.

        •  Don't we already do this as well? (2+ / 0-)
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          Forest Deva, skrekk

          A couple gets a marriage license that's issued by the state, and then if they also want a ceremonial church service, they go ahead and do that.  Our laws have always respected the difference between a sacramental marriage and a civil marriage.

          The marriage equality debate has nothing to do with sacramental marriage.  No high-ranking official is claiming that the federal or state government should force churches to perform same-sex marriages.  The debate has been exclusively about whether or not the state should issue civil marriage licenses, and to a lesser extent what we should call them.

          This problem is that the Michelle Bachmanns of the world don't think the state should be granting civil marriage licenses to same-sex couples, because they believe that our civil laws should mirror religious laws and definitions of morality.  Since the Bible can't be changed, fundamentalist politicians will not change either.  It will be interesting to see what happens to this minority in the future.  Some time very soon, in the next decade at most, they won't have enough numbers to maintain the current party line (which will simply have to moderate).  The Republican party will then be in the difficult position of tolerating a very unpopular minority viewpoint within its ranks that runs contrary to their official platform.

  •  Yaeh, they're going to go mano-a-mano (or (5+ / 0-)

    womano-a-mano) against Stephen? Trying for that Colbert Bump, eh?

    "They will not collect a ransom in exchange for not crashing the American economy. The full faith and credit of the United States of America is not a bargaining chip."

    by TofG on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 10:39:58 AM PDT

    •  I have to wonder if this means they're going (0+ / 0-)

      to go back on with his segments of "Better Know a District".  I hope Stephen's sister wins her contest and comes on his show for that, but I'd love for the Republicans to stop their blanket ban of appearing on his show.

  •  Keep in mind (8+ / 0-)

    What their idea of "youth" is. Remember Henry Hyde committed a "youthful indiscretion"? He was in his mid-40's at the time. By the way, Kid Rock had to cancel his show in Madison due to lack of sales and talent.

    I'm no philosopher, I am no poet, I'm just trying to help you out - Gomez (from the song Hamoa Beach)

    by jhecht on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 10:40:06 AM PDT

    •  Kid Rock ain't no kid anymore... (3+ / 0-)
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      He just turned 42.

      And he's just about as relevant musically to actual young people as his soulmate Ted Nugent.

      Not long before he's yelling at the kids to get off his lawn!

      •  Yes 42 is not a youthful age, though I would give (1+ / 0-)
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        my right arm to be 42 again, it is still not considered to be youthful.   I was 39 when I got married and some people thought called our wedding, a middle aged couple getting married. Of course, mostly all of my friends did not get married until they were in their 40s because of careers, medical school, law school, grad school, the job situation, job layoffs and so on.

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        by wishingwell on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 12:01:58 PM PDT

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    •  Yes and Bush drinking till he was 40 something (1+ / 0-)
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      was a youthful indiscretion and he had changed.  I guess I am getting old then as I never viewed a person in their mid to late 30s as youthful..a person in their 20s to perhaps early 30s ...yes but not someone in their mid to late 30s.  

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      by wishingwell on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 11:59:42 AM PDT

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  •  The civil rights issues of previous times (4+ / 0-)

    Since 1900, have they ever been on the moral side of a civil rights issue?

    Freedom isn't free. Patriots pay taxes.

    by Dogs are fuzzy on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 10:40:30 AM PDT

  •  Please Proceed, Republicans. (n/t) (9+ / 0-)

    Hige sceal þe heardra, heorte þe cenre, mod sceal þe mare, þe ure mægen lytlað

    by milkbone on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 10:40:38 AM PDT

  •  They'll also... (8+ / 0-)

    They'll also say things like, "Hey, that Elvis Presley is really hip," and sprinkle their sentences with words like "daddio," "beatnik," and other slang popular with kids today.  

  •  Wow. How bad must it be to be a gay Republican? (3+ / 0-)
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    You must have to build a second closet inside the one you use with your family.  

    It boggles my mind that this is still an issue in this day and age.  

    Not everyone is part of a Gestalt - Owsley Stanley

    by SpamNunn on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 10:42:35 AM PDT

  •  Here's the thing... (3+ / 0-)
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    Aquarius40, nellgwen, skrekk

    This will backfire right in their faces.

    For 30 years, the GOP has been telling the world that it is the party of Jesus and that homosexuality is evil and wrong and that to support it in anyway is satanic.

    Now they want to pretend to be inclusive and understanding?  You can't just walk that back when your base has been mainlining that shit on talk radio for the last 30 years.

    "Give to every other human being every right that you claim for yourself." - Robert G. Ingersoll

    by Apost8 on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 10:44:10 AM PDT

  •  But what else can they do (4+ / 0-)
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    sfbob, wishingwell, nellgwen, skrekk

    You have two opposing camps.  They aren't really opposing, more orthagonal to each other:  

    1)  Religious conservatives: Gay rights are a hot button issue, it and abortion are their litmus tests.  They refuse to budge on it.

    2) "Fiscal" "Conservatives":   They just don't get why those darn kids care about gay rights...civil rights aren't an issue to them, they honestly don't care about them one way or another.  They only care about "the other 80%", and furthermore, that today's youth only care about the same.  

    Given those two facts (as I see them), they party just can't budge on gay rights.    I'm good with that, they can continue swirling down the drain of history for all I care.

    Minority rights should never be subject to majority vote.

    by lostboyjim on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 10:44:11 AM PDT

  •  Yes, please keep going on 'The Daily Show' (2+ / 0-)
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    Sweet Endolphins Heal, nellgwen

    I love seeing Stewart tear up GOP talking points via skits and interviews ... PLEASE PLEASE keep sending reps of the GOP movement to 'The Daily Show!'

    Returned Peace Corps Volunteer 2005-2007, The Gambia ... A Liberal Defense Contractor (Wha?!) ...

    by AfricanLived on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 10:44:12 AM PDT

  •  The measure of their intellectual bankruptcy (1+ / 0-)
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    is the misunderstanding of the Pareto principle inherent in their pronouncement.

    Finding Fred A Memoir of Discovery @

    by Timothy L Smith on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 10:44:32 AM PDT

  •  I sense more Man(Dad)Splaining from the GOP (1+ / 0-)
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    Typical Sex-Ed from your parents.  A mind numbing Eye Rolling cringe worthy experience for all involved.

    I want 1 less Tiny Coffin, Why Don't You? Support The President's Gun Violence Plan.

    by JML9999 on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 10:45:42 AM PDT

  •  LOL, Can you see this conversation.... (3+ / 0-)
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    RichM, sfbob, nellgwen

    Student: Who did you guys book for the spring bash??  mumford and Sons, Louis CK, the Guys from Queer Eye.

    Student Council: No even better....Reince Priebus.

    Student: Who the fuck is that?  

  •  They'll also do interviews in Tiger Beat (4+ / 0-)

    I heard all the kids like that magazine.

  •  Did you notice the missing words...? (6+ / 0-)

    "Marriage" , and "Equality".

    If they're so uncomfortable with bringing up the topic that they have to call it "alternative points of view", they're not making much headway/

  •  Marriage is not a "point of view" (7+ / 0-)
    but we do need to make sure young people do not see the Party as totally intolerant of alternative points of view.
    It's not a point of view. It's a fundamental right.

    Younger voters don't see the GOP as "intolerant of alternative points of view." They see the GOP as intolerant of people, intolerant of people who are their family and friends.

    As long as the GOP remains intolerant of people, the gateway to winning the youth vote will remain closed.

  •  any back stage word about how (2+ / 0-)
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    Mr. Ryan etc., are reacting to the new pope and his comments about "the church of the poor" and his statement that “we don’t have such a good relationship” the all of creation [i.e. nature]? Is the church a new stance on governmental austerity programs?

    These capitalists generally act harmoniously and in concert, to fleece the people... -Abraham Lincoln

    by HugoDog on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 10:49:24 AM PDT

  •  But will young people vote? (0+ / 0-)

    Will they vote in 2014? How many of them are UNCONDITIONALLY committed to voting in every election?
    I joined Young Republicans in 1961 at age 20 but became a Democrat about 1967. I grew up hearing my parents say they voted in every election. One thing I have kept from my GOP past is a policy to vote in every election. I think I last missed an election in 1974.

    Censorship is rogue government.

    by scott5js on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 10:51:06 AM PDT

  •  and if they could just get past the (2+ / 0-)
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    world is 5,000 years old thing...and that thing Maybe Earth was created in 7 days because ‘I’m not a scientist, man’

  •  As a fiscal conservative (2+ / 0-)
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    Here is why I think the republican party is useless.  Millions spent on defending Newt Gingrich's right to be a Serial Adulterer.  Up to $100,000 million spent on investigating the sex life of Bill Clinton.  Untold amounts spent on making sure kids do not know about evolution, making sure kids think sex is bad, and making sure kids eat processed food and adulterated milk.  That parents think that bad food is healthy for their kids.  This is the image of Palin holding up a Big Gulp.  Don't you think she would have spent money promoting soft drinks in schools in the same way the taxpayer paid $140 million to promote the use of cheese in fast food?

    It really has nothing to do with disagreement on gays, or marriage, or whatever.  It has to do with the certainty that they will waste my tax money forcing others to live in a way that is consistent with conservative superstition.

  •  That's one nutty political party (1+ / 0-)
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    I see a very beautiful planet that seems very inviting and peaceful. Unfortunately, it is not.…We're better than this. We must do better. Cmdr Scott Kelley

    by wretchedhive on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 10:57:59 AM PDT

  •  Somewhat OT but still about youth (2+ / 0-)
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    citylights, nellgwen

    Some Repub complained in a budget hearing last week that we've saddled our kids with as much as $50,000 in debt as their portion of the federal debt. Think about that. Someone who hasn't yet entered the work force but will likely end up working for around 50 years, will end up owing the government $50,000 over their lives, according to this estimate. Damn, sign me up! (Oh, wait, I already am, never mind.) By any sane measure, $50,000 over a lifetime, even for a poor person, is really nothing, considering what they're getting in return:

    Roads, bridges and tunnels
    National security
    Social Security

    The list is HUGE. And for $50,000 over a lifetime? That's a BARGAIN!

    Do they actually think before speaking?

    Also, yeah. teh gay. Same old same old.

    "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

    by kovie on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 11:00:11 AM PDT

  •  "Not TOTALLY intolerant..." Well, that's a relief! (3+ / 0-)

    Actually, that's not even what the GOP manifesto said. We must read it carefully:

    "... we do need to make sure young people do not see the Party as totally intolerant of alternative points of view."
    So, make sure the "young people" don't see ... the GOP for what it really is.

    News of the Day for Republicans: Today's young people are not totally stupid.

    2014 IS COMING. Build up the Senate. Win back the House : 17 seats. Plus!

    by TRPChicago on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 11:01:22 AM PDT

  •  In short, GOP will try to trick ... (3+ / 0-)
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    the youth vote but will not offer anything in return. DOA

  •  the plan is to just lie about everything? (3+ / 0-)
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    which is basically what they have been doing.  Lie better?  Lie, but don't get caught?

  •  Such Inspiring Ideas (1+ / 0-)
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    I Formally Nominate Dennis Miller to be the Chairman
    of the New RNC Celebrity Task Force.

    He is SUCH a Popular Guy.  Soooo Much Charisma.

    Everyone in Hollywood will be Begging to Join Dennis
    Miller in the RNC "Youth Vote" Holy Crusade.

    I can't wait to see How well that Works.

    On Giving Advice: Smart People Don't Need It and Stupid People Don't Listen

    by Brian76239 on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 11:08:01 AM PDT

  •  What Stupidity! (0+ / 0-)

    "Republicans vow to capture the youth vote ... if they can just get past that whole gay thing"

    What a stupid, dumb-ass statement!  Maybe liberal kids are possessed by this  "gay" jazz, but I would be willing to bet that young people in general have other issues that are more important to them than the "gay" lifestyle.  Issues like jobs, student loans, the likelihood of having to go to war, the possibility of getting a job in one's chosen field rather than having to take ANY job, the future of Social Security and Medicare, etc.

    Liberals love to portray conservatives as batshit crazy -- I see my share of that here on Kos -- but liberals are just as batshit crazy in their own way.  Not all of us progressives genuflect to the gay lifestyle.  And some of us progressives are into science and would like to see legitimate science in terms of "global warming."  And many of us don't bow the knee to "St. Barak."  We approach him like we do any president of any race from any party.  Our respect has to be earned; it is not freely given or given automatically.  At least mine isn't.

    I hate stupid!  And I hate stupid of any persuasion.  And when I see stupid like in the headline to this diary, I will reject the stupid and consider it as not worth my time.  Intellect, logic, and rationality score big with me.  That is why I ignore Republican talking points out of hand.  And if the liberal or Democratic talking points lack the qualities I just named, I reject those out of hand as well.

    •  "Genuflect to the gay lifestyle?" (4+ / 0-)

      Seriously?  Sexual identity is a lifestyle? I myself chose the straight lifestyle back when I was born, but maybe I could just change that....Hawkeye, you need to think that one over a bit.

      Not to mention putting "global warming" in quotation marks when you call for "legitimate science."  The conclusion that the earth's temperature is going up and that human activity is the primary cause of it IS the legitimate science.

    •  Gay... Jazz? (5+ / 0-)
      Maybe liberal kids are possessed by this  "gay" jazz, but I would be willing to bet that young people in general have other issues that are more important to them than the "gay" lifestyle.  
      Not all of us progressives genuflect to the gay lifestyle.

      What the fuck are you talking about?

      "Fat Chance" Is Right (0+ / 0-)

      "Appeals from President Obama are the last thing that could possibly work with these guys."

      The question is, what is it going to take to get Barak Obama to realize that?  I do my darnedest to keep from seeing Obama as a "dumb ni--er," but he just keeps on making that harder and harder for me. What he needs to do is to stop kowtowing to the Republicans and start channeling LBJ and saying "This is the way it is and this is the way it's going to be, like it or not."  I am starting to lose respect for him because of his inability -- or unwillingness -- to stand his ground.

      "The only thing that will is Harry Reid going nuclear and changing Senate rules mid-session."

      And we all know that the chance of a snowflake surviving the fires of Hell are far greater than the chance of Old Harry ever doing that.  It's a lovely dream, but the nightmare comes when we wake up and face the reality.

      by hawkeye42 on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 10:15:17 AM PDT

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      Um. Gay lifestyle? I do my darnedest to keep from seeing Obama as a "dumb ni**er," but he just keeps on making that harder and harder for me?

      How has anyone missed this?

      It's like nobody noticed that somebody is shitting all over the floor right in front of them.

      You hate stupid? Me too.

      Now, explain to me, exactly, the "Gay" Jazz?

      I doubt that Obama N-word quote of yours has an explanation, so, let's just stick with the "lifestyle" take.

      How exactly is pointing out that the Movement Conservative Right has a very real problem with homophobia, something that makes them out of step with the rest of the country going forward, stupid?

      I hate homophobia, my tent isn't that big that I will accept that as okay. Let the GOP keep its Birthers in the tent, I don't have to accept homophobes in mine. And I really dislike it when people who talk like a Klansman about the President one minute then go on to lecture me about "the gay lifestyle" the next  if they aren't being idiots.

      Hello! Is anybody paying attention here?!?

      I am from the Elizabeth Warren and Darcy Burner wing of the Democratic Party

      by LeftHandedMan on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 11:41:18 AM PDT

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    •  Well, at least you're willing... (4+ / 0-)
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      CS in AZ, stevemb, LeftHandedMan, skrekk admit to being a homophobic bigot.

    •  Hawkeye, to be honest, I must say.... (3+ / 0-)
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      nellgwen, stevemb, LeftHandedMan

      I found this statement offensive as it sounds like a right wing talking point.  


      And many of us don't bow the knee to "St. Barak."
      That is the kind of stuff I hear the right wing saying. Why is it necessary for a liberal to be saying that?  

      You give validity to the claims of the right that we Democrats worship Obama like an messiah and that is pure garbage.

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      by wishingwell on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 12:07:28 PM PDT

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    •  Indeed, this comment is full of stupid (2+ / 0-)
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      with a large serving of bigotry for good measure. Truly offensive.

  •  When asked, Larry Craig refused to take a (0+ / 0-)

    wide stance on the issue.

  •  "civil rights issues of our time"? (0+ / 0-)

    Um..actually - Joe was speaking of transgender folks then - not gays.

    It kinda bears repeating given how often people just say gay and others get swept under the table. Again.

    But - sure - Preibus and his pals are right on board with trans folk being treated with respect and equality............ahem........

    Can't wait to be asked to be a token at CPAC. Free money!!!! Wingnut welfare!!!!

  •  They don't even fucking read... (2+ / 0-)
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    What they are typing?

    In every session with young voters, social issues were at the forefront of thediscussion;
    So, if social issues are the most important thing, then how can this be true:
    but just because someone disagrees with us on 20 percent of the issues, that does not mean we cannot come together on the rest of the issues where we do agree.
    Um, if social issues are THE FOREFRONT of the discussion in connecting with young people, then HOW THE FUCK can you 'come together' on 'other issues'?  

    Not only is the completely fucking stupid, it is an insult to young people about something they care about deeply.  

    'Guns don't kill people, video games do - paraphrased from Lamar Alexander (Sen-R-TN)'

    by RichM on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 11:32:52 AM PDT

  •  Dear GOP, I hate to tell you this, but marriage (4+ / 0-)
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    wishingwell, nellgwen, Forest Deva, skrekk

    equality isn't the only stumbling block your party has for young voters. Or actually, anyone for whom equality is important.

    They will also have problems with the heavy handed inequality you believe is okay for womenfolk.  See, women today feel that they can make their own decisions about their own bodies without some politician telling them what they and their doctors can do regarding their health.  Oh, and those binders full of women also feel they are entitled to equal wages for equal work (silly girls).

    And then there's that whole immigration thing. You know, GOP, the issue some of your leaders were for before they were against it.

    Oh, oh, and that reminds us all of health care, and how that mandate idea was one dreamed up by your rw think tank (Heritage) and the supposed reason you wouldn't sign on to health care for the American public back when Bill and Hillary tried give us lower costs and wider coverage.  You remember. Doncha?

    Oh.  And cap and trade.  That was another idea of yours.  Just like your idea that deficits don't matter when you're waging two wars, one of which was entirely trumped up (pun definitely intended) by Iago, ummm, I mean Cheney.

    You know what, dear GOP?  Turns out that marriage equality is kinda just the tip of the old iceberg. You and your right wing old testament evangelical tea party birther McCarthyism is just a bridge too far, especially considering you won't allow a vote on the President's JOBS bill that puts people to work shoring up our bridges and repairing things like roads. . . and schoolhouses.  And bringing more of America better broadband.  And highspeed rail.  And solar panels. And wind energy.

    So. Yeah. Y'all got trouble.  With young people.  With women.  With Latinos. And African-Americans. And Native Americans. And Asians. And the LGBT community, and the people who love them.

    And guess what, dear GOP. Turns out I don't hate telling you this.  At all.  In fact. I'd be saying,"Nah-nah-nah-nah-nah!"  but my momma raised me better. I'll just do what this delightful diary did, and wish you good luck. (I'm gonna get me some popcorn and hide and watch.)

    "In politics stupidity is not a handicap." Napoleon Bonaparte

    by citylights on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 11:33:14 AM PDT

  •  What they don't get (2+ / 0-)
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    nellgwen, skrekk

    What the Republican "leadership" doesn't get is that the people who strenuously disagree with them on 20% of the issues are open to education on the other 80%

    The tables linked by my sig line are never going to persuade people who are wedded to the rest of the Republican aganda. They wil keep believing that Republican policies lead to economic growth.

    But the young voters turned off by Republican hiomophobia are open to lezarning on other issues. And, when tehy do, the rest of their age mates will learn about it, too.


  •  in my best Strother Martin voice... (1+ / 0-)
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    "What we've got he'a is failure to commu'cate".

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