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On the eve of the 10th anniversary of one of the most contentious and divisive wars in living memory, Peter Taylor forensically investigates how key aspects of the secret intelligence used by Downing Street and the White House to justify the invasion of Iraq, were based on fabrication, wishful thinking and lies.
But who's wish was the wishful thinking based on?  Not mine.  
With a series of revelatory interviews, including a shocking exchange with the Iraqi spy and self-confessed fabricator ‘Curveball’, Panorama sheds new light on the spies who fooled the world.
Nothing to see here, peeps, move along....below the yellowcake-coloured  CURVEBALL

Using remarkable first hand testimony, this one-hour Panorama special reveals the full story of how two very highly placed sources, both close to Saddam Hussein, talked secretly to the CIA via an intermediary and directly to MI6 in the build-up to the war and said Iraq did not have an active Weapons of Mass Destruction programme. But both were ignored.

In a compelling story of spies and intrigue, deception and lies, key players reveal how sparse British and American intelligence was and how none of the handful of human sources had direct knowledge of WMD production. The former CIA Paris Station Chief, Bill Murray, explains how he used an intermediary to recruit Iraq’s Foreign Minister and his frustration when he found crucial intelligence from this source was rejected because it didn’t fit in with the White House’s agenda. The intelligence from Iraq’s Foreign Minister was confirmed four months later, when an MI6 officer met Iraq’s Head of Intelligence, who passed on the same message, saying Iraq had no WMD.

Lord Butler, author of the 2004 report into the WMD intelligence, says the British public was misled.

Who knew?  

Surely, by contrast, claims of Iran's "nukular" aspirations are true....ritght?  right?

Pull the other one, it's got bells on it


Are similar claims of Persian Nukular Aspirations Compleat Bullshit?

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  •  Tip Jar (2+ / 0-)
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    nailbender, liberaldregs

    "We must close union offices, confiscate their money and put their leaders in prison. We must reduce workers salaries and take away their right to strike.” -Adolf Hitler, May 2, 1933

    by bekosiluvu on Thu Mar 21, 2013 at 10:30:10 AM PDT

  •  I'll say it again: the biggest failure of the Dems (1+ / 0-)
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    this century so far is the failure to prosecute these criminals.  Of course, such a prosecution would likely turn up collusion amongst many of those Dems, so it's not entirely unfathomable that they would toss away the Constitution and US laws and treaties which they'd already wiped their butts with.

    "Well, yeah, the Constitution is worth it if you succeed." - Nancy Pelosi // Question: "succeed" at what?

    by nailbender on Thu Mar 21, 2013 at 10:43:11 AM PDT

  •  Aspirations v. capability (1+ / 0-)
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    Of course, Saddam had nuclear aspirations.

    The problems are:

    (a) between the conclusion of the Bush 41 war and the commencement of the Bush 43 lunacy, Bush Sr. and Clinton had a reasonably effective strategy for containing Saddam Hussein, given that there was no way we'd ever get a suitable government there.  One consequence is that too much of Iraq's capability was done in.

    (b) Since Saddam didn't want to hear about (a) and tended to deal with anyone who told him what he didn't want to hear in rather creatively nasty ways (aka, genitals boiled in acid) the people working on the program lied about its progress and stashed the money in Swiss bank accounts as fast as they could.

    There was no likelihood that Saddam was going to get the bomb after some time in the 1990s.  And even in the 1980s, when this was a concern, it's unlikely he would have been able to come up with more than a few crude low-grade weapons with no delivery capability (their supergun wouldn't work, they didn't know how to fuse them and mount them on a Scud missile, and in any event they had no idea how to make it compact enough).  That's why they made such a big investment in chemical weapons (for which they also lacked a good delivery capability, they were useful in local combat and for slaughtering innocent Kurds, but had little strategic value -- and their capability was pretty much eradicated in the 1990s.

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