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corruption, nepotism and outright gangsterism has been part of human society since ever. and it will never go away. It is only a question of how pervasive it is. On the minimal scale we get basically decent and egalitarian societies such as Norway, Finland Australia etc on the other scale we have countries such as North Korea, Syria and Iran.  Where does the USA fall on this scale of shame?

Over the last 30 years I sadly watched the US become ever more corrupt and undemocratic. Starting with the Reagan tax giveaways and greatly accelerating with the anointment of the loser in the 2000 presidential election by the supreme court.  The election of Obama only slowed the process to a corrupt oligarchy not reversed it.

Last year  movie "The Dictator" by Sacha Baron  captured the  essence of our failing democracy and this segment is a must view.

Matt Taibbi a long critic of wall street and the politicians that enable it wrote extensively about the similarities of wall street business practices and the Mafia.  here is a sample from his June 21 article "The scam wall street learned from the Mafia"

But USA v. Carollo marks the first time we actually got incontrovertible evidence that Wall Street has moved into this cartel-type brand of criminality. It also offered a disgusting glimpse into the enabling and grossly cynical role played by politicians, who took Super Bowl tickets and bribe-stuffed envelopes to look the other way while gangsters raided the public kitty.

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What would it take to actually move the US to a more just and progressive direction?
or with the consequences of citizen united decision, gerrymandering and the determination of the right to suppress voting and change the rules in its favor makes it impossible to achieve progress?

To fix our democracy we need to

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  •  I think the more interesting questions is this... (1+ / 0-)
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    What changes are necessary to get the votes in congress, the signature of the president and support by the supreme court for any of the excellent suggestions in your poll?

    What I mean is this, I think you are proposing what would be the culmination of a progressive movement as step one of a progressive movement.

    The question that needs to be asked is what are the first steps that we must do now to reach a point, perhaps in a decade, perhaps more, where any of your proposals could actually be enacted into law?

    As to my suggestion, it is this...look to the LGBT rights campaign since the 1980s.  That campaign has been the single greatest progressive accomplishment of the last 30 years.  We need to study how they did it, and adapt those strategies to accomplish our long term goals.

    I might also ad, that a glaring omission from your list of things to do are issues of racial, ethnic and gender equality and global warming and the environment.

    "Empty vessels make the loudest sound, they have the least wit and are the greatest blabbers" Plato

    by Empty Vessel on Fri Mar 29, 2013 at 02:29:54 PM PDT

  •  I believe the ancient Greeks (3+ / 0-)
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    Rizzo, Words In Action, Nattiq

    ...stumbled upon the only dummy-proof democracy:

    Representatives are chosen from all citizens by lottery. Rather like the draft.

    Denial is a drug.

    by Pluto on Fri Mar 29, 2013 at 03:00:09 PM PDT

    •  citizenship was limited to land-owning men (1+ / 0-)
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      If we limited the franchise to the 1%, I'm sure they too would be happy with names picked out of a hat ... presumably from their own ranks.

      •  We'd probably have to give all current citizens (0+ / 0-)

        ...40 acres and a mule to pull it off in this day and age.

        Denial is a drug.

        by Pluto on Fri Mar 29, 2013 at 06:53:24 PM PDT

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        •  a free stock portfolio might do the trick (1+ / 0-)
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          Give large numbers of ordinary people a voice in corporate governance, with extra shares for employees and at best "superdelegate" voting rights for actual officers of the corporation who get paid in stock (meant to align their self-interest with that of the stockholders, but in practice it motivates them loot the company, since there are many ways to quickly and dramatically pump up stock prices that are bad for the long-term health and profitability of the company).

          The shareholders are supposed to be the people for whose sake the corporation is managed; that's the relationship that we're supposed to have with civil government, so why not establish the same relationship with the power behind the throne?

  •  The fix: public funding of elections (1+ / 0-)
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    So the problem is this: in order to be a law-maker, you need lots of money.  To get that money, those who would be law-makers ask for (and receive) big donations from corporations and wealthy individuals.  In return, the corporations and wealthy individuals then have sway over those who get eleced, and get laws written just the way the corporations and wealthy people want laws to be written.

    Therefore the correction or fix is to make ALL elections be publicly funded.  When would-be law-makers no longer need big financial gifts from corporations and wealthy individuals, the law-makers will no longer be beholden to the corporations and wealthy, and the corporations and wealthy will no longer have power over the law-makers.  When the law-makers get the money they need to mount an election from ALL tax-payers, then law-makers will discover they have to satisfy the political wishes of the masses of tax-payers - and not just the wealthiest.

    In my opinion, to restore our democracy we need to outlaw ALL private financial gifts to law-makers and campaigners, and provide for public funding of ALL elections.

    "The fool doth think he is wise: the wise man knows himself to be a fool" - W. Shakespeare

    by Hugh Jim Bissell on Fri Mar 29, 2013 at 03:21:40 PM PDT

  •  I think there is a consitutional convention (0+ / 0-)

    that may be in the future if the path is still trodden that we are on...I read an article on USA and it seemed to indicate such


    We the People have to make a difference and the Change.....Just do it ! Be part of helping us build a veteran community online. United Veterans of America

    by Vetwife on Fri Mar 29, 2013 at 04:24:21 PM PDT

  •  Oligarchy. The only way to fight it (0+ / 0-)

    is via movements like OWS.

  •  money is the root of all evil (0+ / 0-)

    All of these problems boil down to money: a few people have a whole lot of it, and for them the rules change.

    •  I beleive the actual quote is (1+ / 0-)
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      "the love of money is the root of all evil"  A distinction lost upon most people.  Money isn't the evil it's the charcter of humans.  Of course the people that don't have any don't see it that way.  Always been that way so that too is nothing new.  

      Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

      by thestructureguy on Fri Mar 29, 2013 at 09:34:39 PM PDT

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