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So maybe Sen. Chuck Grassley should stick to the tweeter machine:
SEN. CHARLES SCHUMER: If you have ways to improve the bill, offer an amendment when we start markup in May and let's vote on it. I say that particularly to those who are point to what happened, the terrible tragedy in Boston, as, I would say, an excuse for not doing a bill or delaying it many months or years.

SEN. CHUCK GRASSLEY (SHOUTING AND POINTING FINGER): I never said that!

SCHUMER: I didn't say you did.

GRASSLEY (SHOUTING AND POINTING FINGER): I never said that!

SCHUMER: I didn't say you did, sir.

GRASSLEY (STILL SHOUTING AND POINTING): I didn't say [unintelligble].

SCHUMER: I don't blame you, Mr. Grassley.

Last week, Grassley did draw a connection between the Boston attacks and immigration reform. The focus of his remarks wasn't on delaying the timeline, but the remarks were aligned with people seeking to use the Boston attack as an excuse for delay.

But now that he's angrily denied wanting a delay, Grassley has put himself up against senators like Rand Paul, who are making the case that the immigration reform should be postponed because the Tsarnaev brothers were born overseas.

Sen. Rand Paul called for comprehensive immigration reform legislation to be delayed until Congress can investigate the Boston terrorist bombings to determine what added protections should be added to the legislation.

In a letter to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Paul bluntly warned, "We should not proceed until we understand the specific failures of our immigration system. Why did the current system allow two individuals to immigrate to the United States from the Chechen Republic in Russia, an area known as a hotbed of Islamic extremism, who then committed acts of terrorism? Were there any safeguards? Could this have been prevented? Does the immigration reform before us address this?"

As you might recall, it was just a few days ago that Paul self-righteously denounced Newtown families for publicly supporting gun safety legislation. In his words, they were just "props." Which makes this a fair point:
Rand Paul asks Reid for  immig bill delay bc Boston "exposed weakness." By his guns/Newtown logic, is he using marathon victims as "props"?
@JohnJHarwood via Twitter for BlackBerry®
Given Grassley's eagerness to dissociate himself from the delay position, I'm thinking Rand Paul isn't going to have much success with this gambit.

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  •  Grassley protesting too much (15+ / 0-)

    It's very funny to see old pro Grassley go out of his way to  pull the pin and jump on the rhetorical grenade Schumer lobbed out to stop opponents from trying to scuttle immigration reform with the specter of terrorism. Grassley makes Schumer--calming the defensive Grassley, welcoming amendments and debate--look like a political genius.

  •  What weakness? (4+ / 0-)
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    Crazy people being crazy?

  •  Amazing (7+ / 0-)
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    Amazing that these guys can still get angry, or feign anger, about attacks on their record, credibility, or integrity. Well, maybe not. In fact, themselves seems to be the only thing they have empathy for.

  •  Grasshole. (10+ / 0-)

    God, what a country we could have, how nice life could be if we didn't have fucking republicans to fucking ruin it.

    It's just wrong.

    •  In 21st Century America we have everything (1+ / 0-)
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      but the right thing.

      The right thing costs the rich money.

      The right thing i objectionable to fucking republicans.

      Much of Conservative America is too stupid to KNOW what is actually right and they run with their pointy noggins FILLED with delusional shit. Just shit. Shit that is a waste of time to even acknowledge, let alone actually try to discuss.

      Their "points" are invariably worthless or sociopathic.

      I am certain things could have been better.....

    •  Reminds me of an old song a relative used to (1+ / 0-)
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      sing.  All I remember is part of the refrain.

      'Reuben, Reuben, I've been thinking...
      What a grand world it would be...
      If all the women were transported,
      Far beyond the western sea!'

      Sounds misogynistic, but maybe you could rewrite it with Republicans rather than women ;)

  •  Rand Paul....a mover and shaker....the GOP is a (5+ / 0-)
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    mess.

    •  The GOP is America's single biggest threat (1+ / 0-)
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      and nobody here wants to treat them accordingly.

    •  He's a total hypocrite, as well (3+ / 0-)
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      how else do you call a "libertarian" exploiting fear to justify a government intrusion in the labor market?  

      The Pauls don't believe in rights except those held by whites.

      Difficult, difficult, lemon difficult.

      by Loge on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 10:13:09 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Rand Paul wants to investigate (0+ / 0-)

      the connection between the alleged bombers immigrating to the US and terrorism. Let's see...the bombers were what, 9 and 15 when they came here? So what Rand, these kids were sent here by____(fill in blank) so as to set off bombs in 2013?

      You are a fucking idiot.........

      "If fighting for a more equal and equitable distribution of the wealth of this country is socialistic, I stand guilty of being a socialist." Walter Reuther

      by fugwb on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 12:10:23 PM PDT

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  •  I don't get how the proposed reforms (3+ / 0-)
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    make it any more dangerous under any possible circumstances.   Any terrorist who would apply is already in the country; he would have to come out of the cold, stay straight for 13 years, pay taxes and "fees", and for what?  To become a citizen, as if that makes it easier to commit terror or for that matter, any other crime?

    That's not even "gun control". It's more like "massacre control".

    by Inland on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 10:00:12 AM PDT

    •  I brought my wife here from Viet Nam (2+ / 0-)
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      via the K1 Fiance Visa program.

      We had a LOT of fees to pay. When Bush created the DHS the first thing they did was jack up costs.

      So that we would only allow in well-heeled terrorists.

      Capitalist fuckers. Raising fees just makes money: it doesn't translate into 1 iota of improved security.

      I hate the US Federal Government because they are so amazingly mean AND stupid.

    •  Logic! (0+ / 0-)

      I don't need no stinking logic!

      "I'm gonna dance between the raindrops"

      by IB JOHN on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 10:10:49 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Awful testy when soft white underbelly is exposed- (4+ / 0-)
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    Evidence that contradicts the ruling belief system is held to extraordinary standards, while evidence that entrenches it is uncritically accepted. -Carl Sagan

    by RF on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 10:00:14 AM PDT

  •  Erm, the brothers got in under our CURRENT (3+ / 0-)
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    system.  No 'reform' or changes to the system that have been proposed would increase the chance that they could get in, as it was already 100%.  They did get in.

    I don't know that you'll ever prevent that sort of thing happening again, but if you really want to go there, you'd have to examine how and if we grant asylum to peoples from constantly war-torn areas where asymmetric warfare is an accepted tactic.

    •  They were friggin REFUGEES. (4+ / 0-)
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      They were invited.

      (And this was the thanks we got)

    •  So they came in about ten years ago....... (1+ / 0-)
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      who was President then? hmmmm...think we need to investigate and talk to the people in charge who let them in, and while we're at it, let's ask about WMDs in Iraq, the August 2001 Presidential Daily Briefing, how Bin Laden's family was allowed to be swooped out of the country, Gitmo  and torture.  

      "There is no barrier of people's acceptance. The only barrier is the media. Remember what people cannot see or hear, they cannot think about." - liner notes of Soft Cell's 'The Art of Falling Apart'.

      by dugjxn on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 10:12:19 AM PDT

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  •  To which Harry Reid replied that if these sorts of (6+ / 0-)

    ridiculous tactics continue he will have no other recourse than to have waffles for breakfast, again.

    The Great Awakening Is Afire! Think outside the box.

    by franklyn on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 10:03:36 AM PDT

  •  How is Grassley even a Senator (1+ / 0-)
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    I lump him in with Virginia Foxx and other doddering old fools who have no business making decisions for the rest of the country. No critical thinking skills & very well may smell like tapioca.

    Organizing is what you do before you do something, so that when you do it, it is not all mixed up. A. A. Milne

    by hulibow on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 10:04:45 AM PDT

  •  GOPers are 100% predictable. (1+ / 0-)
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    Republicans cried, "Now is not the time to make an emotional decision!" when 20 children were murdered by a long gunman spraying bullets in a CT classroom.  "Don't punish law abiding citizens for the actions of one nut!"  Oh and even though there is a mass shooting in America every 5.9 days, we don't need to do anything "rash" about stopping straw purchasers or closing the gun show loopholes!  Freedom demands that we all be able to own unlimited assault rifles and mountains of ammo, just like Thomas Jefferson did!  Criminals don't obey gun laws so why have gun laws!  Why not simply enforce the laws we have!  (And by the way Hitler had gun control!...)

    But the GOPers are indeed making emotional decisions about millions of law abiding (other than the obvious overstaying the immigration visa or border jumping violations) immigrants, based on the actions of 2 whack job immigrants.

    And I am not saying perhaps better screening of immigrants from, say, Chechnya or Syria or Iraq or Yemen is a bad idea.  But to now derail badly needed immigration reform because two murderous assholes set off bombs in Boston is absurd.

    And heaven forbid we do some soul searching about why so many people in the world hate us.  And it ain't geopolitical penis envy, 99% of the time.

    •  But what good would extra screening do (2+ / 0-)
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      to prevent what happened in Boston? They came to America 10 years ago. The younger brother was 9 when he came. Doubtful that a 9 year old had anything in his past that was questionable. Even the older brother probably wouldn't have shown anything to keep him out of the country.

      •  Prayers to their god for a sign as to what is in (0+ / 0-)

        god's plan for each immigrant, since their god is all knowing and every persons life written ahead of time - we can call it the Rick Perry Immigration Prayer Circle.  

        Or break out the Ouija board.....tea leaves...tarot card reading...

        "There is no barrier of people's acceptance. The only barrier is the media. Remember what people cannot see or hear, they cannot think about." - liner notes of Soft Cell's 'The Art of Falling Apart'.

        by dugjxn on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 10:24:07 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  Then again (0+ / 0-)

        Tamerlan Tsarnaev's citizenship application was held up because something in his interview troubled the interviewer.  So screening does work.

  •  What kind of message does this send to Latinos? (5+ / 0-)
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    The logical conclusion we can draw from some Republicans' reactions is that immigrants can't be trusted because there were 2 bad ones. They can put all the lipstick on that pig that they want, but that's what they mean. So by all means, Senators, keep conflating "immigrant" with "terrorist in waiting". It will do wonders with you Latino outreach.

  •  Ummm...FURP.. (2+ / 0-)
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    That is, F*ck you, Rand Paul.

    I write a series called 'My Life as an Aspie', documenting my experiences before and after my A.S. diagnosis as a way to help fellow Aspies and parents of Aspies and spread awareness. If I help just one person by doing this, then I've served a purpose.

    by Homer177 on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 10:09:24 AM PDT

  •  Harwood makes an excellent point when (6+ / 0-)
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    he notes that Paul is doing exactly what he accuses liberal groups of doing. However, he misses one all-important point, as far as the corporate media are concerned:

    It's OK when a Republican does it.

    That's the standard of "fair and balanced" Beltway "journalism" post-2008, that provided more coverage to a few astroturf Tea Party nuts in 2009 than it ever did to the cross-nation Occupy movement.

    As far as Senator Grass-hole is concerned, the author needs to remember that this is only what he's saying today. Tomorrow, he'll be all for delaying/ending immigration reform, and Democrats will be bullies and thugs for pointing out his lies and flip-flops.

    And his accusations will be repeated, verbatim and taken as truth, by the lame-stream media - because Grass-hole fellates K Street at every opportunity.

    "Violence never requires translation, but it often causes deafness." - Bareesh the Hutt.

    by Australian2 on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 10:11:04 AM PDT

  •  I happened to travel around the country (0+ / 0-)

    over the past few weeks and I have to say I am somewhat impressed by how average Americans are absorbing and dealing with the Boston situation.  There isn't this sense of collective freak out and fear as happened after 9-11.  There is a sense that terrorism remains a persistent problem, but people don't necessarily believe that a foreign terrorist is that much more of a threat than a guy like Adam Lanza.  Threats can come from within and without.  

    There is no change in the sentiment among most Americans that what happened in Congress last week on the gun issue is an example of dysfunction.  As we learn more about what happened in Boston, it seems that background checks actually might have prompted people to take a look into the Tsarnaev bros prior to the Marathon bombing.  It also seems like the FBI needs to revisit some of its processes and procedures, because regardless of whether what the FBI did a year or two back with respect to the elder Tsarnaev was within standard practices, it seems that the system failed to detect how serious a threat he became or how quickly he turned from a non-threat to a threat.  

    Alternative rock with something to say: http://www.myspace.com/globalshakedown

    by khyber900 on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 10:23:54 AM PDT

  •  We must delay, because the majority (0+ / 0-)

    of illegal immigrants are Mexican, and we really don't want those brown people to live here, so we'll use the Boston bombings as an excuse.
    Signed: Chuck Grassley

    No matter how cynical you get, it is impossible to keep up.--Lily Tomlin

    by Desert Rose on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 10:25:04 AM PDT

  •  GOP is aiding Terrorists (2+ / 0-)
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    by filibustering background checks on gun sales. Period. This is what we should be talking about.

  •  hey grassley (0+ / 0-)

    if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen, preferably get out of the senate and take the other con do nothing republicans with you so america can get on with the business of govt and doing the peoples business and not protecting the interests of the 1% and their takers agenda.

  •  If you throw a rock into a pack of wild dogs (0+ / 0-)

    the one that get hit will holler. If you ain't guilty then why scream?

    Grassley know what he was saying Friday. He didn't say verbatim, but that is what he was insinuating.

    NY-9/NJ-10; Russians can give you arms but only the United States can give you a solution. -- Anwar Sadat

    by BKGyptian89 on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 10:39:45 AM PDT

  •  Grassley pulling the plug on Abuela? (0+ / 0-)

    Who would have thunk that the august members of the World's Worst Deliberative Body could stoop to such a thing? I'm shocked and oh so disappointed . . .

    But to imagine those idiots will actually pass immigration reform, even though big business wants more cheap labor, isn't something I'm going to light a candle for. And even if they did, what about the House? Seriously.

    "Societies strain harder and harder to sustain the decadent opulence of the ruling class, even as it destroys the foundations of productivity and wealth." — Chris Hedges

    by Crider on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 11:03:26 AM PDT

  •   Good reminder that "Libertarian" Paul is a fraud (0+ / 0-)

    He'll play the xenophobic, nationalist card when it suits him, just like his old man and Pat Buchanan.

  •  Rand Paul is a xenophobe (0+ / 0-)

    He is a xenophobe in that he despises the "other."  It doesn't matter if that other is here in the US, or if that other is somewhere else.

    He doesn't want the government to use taxpayer money to fund anyone who isn't him.  He wants to defund " the other."  

    Streichholzschächtelchen

    by otto on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 11:39:10 AM PDT

  •  why isn't Schumer Majority Leader? (0+ / 0-)

    He's definitely the smartest politician in the Senate.

    He got Grassley to defend himself for something he wasn't accused of.

    That's brilliant.

    When did you stop beating your wife, Senator Grassley?


    "Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster." - Nietzsche

    by AlyoshaKaramazov on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 11:49:45 AM PDT

  •  Paul can't even get his geography straight (0+ / 0-)

    The Tsarnaev brothers came here from Kyrghistan, a small former-Soviet republic in central Asia. It's generally friendly to the US, and useful for staging Afghanistan.  They were ethnic Chechens whose ancestors were forcibly deported out of Chechnya, technically a part of Russia, in 1944.  Stalin deported them to the central Asian republics because he thought them disloyal; 30% of all Chechens died.  Later, long after Stalin's death, they were allowed to return, but some still live there.  

    Of course radical Islam came to the area in the late 1970s, brought by the US as a weapon against the Soviets in Afghanistan.  Chechens still want independence and in some cases use religion as a tool, but their conflict is mainly with Russia.  "Tom" Tsarnaev visited the area last year; "Jahar", who came to America much younger, seemed to fit in much better here.

    Chechens do often leave Russia as refugees.  There is a long history, too, of confusing refugees with their oppressors.  Some Jews trying to flee Germany in Hitler's time were treated as enemy "Germans" by the US and Canada.

  •  2 rogue immigrants (2+ / 0-)
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    and they want to delay the immigration bill.  Citing 20 dead 1st graders as a reason for gun control is an 'emotional response'.

    Got it.

  •  Grassely's outburst confirmed his guilt. (0+ / 0-)

    The most perfect political community is one in which the middle class is in control, and outnumbers both of the other classes. Aristotle

    by progresso on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 12:11:44 PM PDT

  •  Grassley is the ass that started the crap about (1+ / 0-)
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    death panels too.  Schumer smoked him out.

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