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This painfully desperate sentence was just Tweeted by Ben Domenech, who some consider to be one of the preeminent conservative minds in America.*

Apparently, this is what conservative preeminence looks like:

Of course, perhaps Ben is right, for there are parallels. We spent trillions of dollars as a nation on the Iraq war, which took an untold number of lives, both American and Iraqi.

And Obamacare will ... save an untold number of lives at a fraction of the cost.

You're right, Ben. Obamacare is the Iraq War of the Obama administration.

*For those unaware, Ben is a co-founder of RedState, a research fellow for The Heartland Institute and a former speech writer for Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson and  Senator John Cornyn. Oh, the brains.


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  •  Tip Jar (28+ / 0-)

    "If the Jew who struggles for justice for Palestine is considered anti-Semitic, & if Palestinians seeking self-determination are so accused...then no oppositional move can take place w/o risking the accusation." - Judith Butler

    by David Harris Gershon on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 05:02:50 PM PDT

  •  Also, Thousands of Corporations Are Opposing It (15+ / 0-)

    just as they opposed the Iraq war.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 05:10:19 PM PDT

  •  so exactly what kind of... (9+ / 0-)

    admission are they making here about Iraq?

    The last word from W on the subject, hot off the presses, is basically that he wouldn't change a thing.

    "It's almost as if we're watching Mitt Romney on Safari in his own country." -- Jonathan Capeheart

    by JackND on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 05:12:02 PM PDT

    •  The admission in question here is that it is (2+ / 0-)
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      MartyM, kareylou

      an economic disaster -- a money pit leading to disaster and waste.

      No love for the war here -- simply an untenable analogy.

      "If the Jew who struggles for justice for Palestine is considered anti-Semitic, & if Palestinians seeking self-determination are so accused...then no oppositional move can take place w/o risking the accusation." - Judith Butler

      by David Harris Gershon on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 05:13:15 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  The problem here is the apparently endemic (0+ / 0-)

        inability to correctly relate cause and effect. Much medical care is, indeed, a waste in the sense that the patients still die, some sooner than they would have without it. However, those who provide the care benefit, both materially and in getting to practice their "love." The Iraq invasion was a disaster from the outset and neither the aggressors, nor the victims (dead or deprived) derived any benefit. The Iraq invasion was an unmitigated, man-made disaster.

        Moreover, the idealists, people who are convinced that "all it takes is the idea," are being proven wrong. Taking the intent for the act does not preclude that "the road to hell is paved with good intentions." That is, having the intentions and leaving the acts to someone else does not create a detour around hell. Dubya can continue to exist in the state of denial, but the facts on the ground are what they are and the pictorial evidence is, I suspect, about to surface.

        Besides, if the reform of medical insurance is Obama's Iraq, he won't be able to be the hero of Iraq, will he? They've avoided giving him credit for winding down the FUBAR and extracting the troops without too much damage. But, what will happen if he lets all the dirty linen be washed in public to make amends and compensate the Iraqis for what they've gone through? How will the complicit media react to having its complicity in exchange for a front-row seat exposed?
        In a sense, the hunt for the bombers in Boston was a dry run for alternative media and public involvement. In most cases, the public responded as was predicted and hoped. There was no panic in the streets. Public information, it turned out, works better than efforts to coerce, as was demonstrated with OWS. The "lockdown" insured that the bomber didn't get away. Releasing the hounds led to the discovery of his hiding place. Segmentation and segregation do have their uses.

        We organize governments to deliver services and prevent abuse.

        by hannah on Tue Apr 23, 2013 at 02:26:27 AM PDT

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    •  The Daily Show had a great segment (6+ / 0-)

      a while back where they showed conservatives referring to several things  as "Obama's Katrina" or "Obama's Iraq".

      Jon Stewart pointed out when the actual Iraq and Katrina happened, Republicans defend the GOP administration.

      So yeah, this is at least a tacit admission that those things didnt go well.  

  •  What a crock. (2+ / 0-)
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    Mr Robert, The Troubadour

    It's Obama's Katrina.  

  •  Yes, Domenech is correct. (4+ / 0-)

    In that Obamacare, like Iraq, is the object of severely misguided and paranoid fantasizing by Republicans.

    Proud to be a Truth Vigilante

    by Calvino Partigiani on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 05:43:29 PM PDT

  •  Confused."The Iraq of the Obama administration" (4+ / 0-)

    was the end of the war in Iraq. So, does Ben mean that Obamacare will be the end of the health industry's war on sick people?

    -4.38, -7.64 Voyager 1: proof that what goes up never comes down.

    by pat bunny on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 05:46:41 PM PDT

  •  God it has to tough to face (2+ / 0-)
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    drummergirl, Larsstephens

    a competent President when your most recent guy was such a loser.  I almost feel sorry for these folks.  

    I'm not looking for a love that will lift me up and carry me away. A love that will stroll alongside and make a few amusing comments will suffice.

    by I love OCD on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 06:13:53 PM PDT

    •  Don't feel sorry for them. They may rise again (1+ / 0-)
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      and kick our ass, as in 2010.
      We must get the House back in 2014. We can't afford to let up.

      You can't make this stuff up.

      by David54 on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 08:26:16 PM PDT

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      •  I'm hopeful, since OFA will be (0+ / 0-)

        involved.  I'll bet they've figured out how to talk sense to folks in red districts.  Aside from the 23% dedicated racist/bigots, Republicans can be stripped of their usual voters with a few charts and graphs.  I showed the ones showing how debt rises with Republicans and falls with Democrats in the WH to some folks yammering about tax and spend.  They were gobsmacked at the arithmetic.  Republicans are the debt creators?  Who needs em?

        I'm not looking for a love that will lift me up and carry me away. A love that will stroll alongside and make a few amusing comments will suffice.

        by I love OCD on Tue Apr 23, 2013 at 07:24:31 AM PDT

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  •  What a week! (1+ / 0-)
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    Another conservative wanting to compare something to their failures.


    "We will never have the elite, smart people on our side."~Little Ricky Santorum

    by Dahankster on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 06:35:24 PM PDT

  •  Just sit back and get used to it, we have eternity (1+ / 0-)
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    Or at least, the rest of our foreseeable future of R opposition and attempted destruction of it - after all, they're still working to destroy Medicare after almost 50 years. They're not even warmed up on destroying Obamacare.

    "We are not going to give up on destroying the health care system for the American people." - future President Paul Ryan.

    by Fordmandalay on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 06:38:05 PM PDT

  •  This is what they really mean: (2+ / 0-)
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    myboo, Larsstephens

    The sum of all GOP fears

    Bill Kristol said it best.
       Passage of the…health care plan, in any form, would guarantee and likely make permanent…the largest federal entitlement program since Social Security. Its success would signal a rebirth of centralized welfare-state policy at the very moment we have begun rolling back that idea in other areas.

        But the…proposal is also a serious political threat to the Republican Party…It will revive the reputation of the party that spends and regulates, the Democrats, as the generous protector of middle-class interests. And it will at the same time strike a punishing blow against Republican claims to defend the middle class by restraining government.

    The Clinton Health Care Plan. In 1993.

    Ceterem censeo, gerrymandra delenda est

    by Mokurai on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 06:42:00 PM PDT

    •   But a 25 yr old repuglian plan was passed and (0+ / 0-)

      its grid was laid out by Max Baucus. ACA may still prove to be unworkable because of its complexity and the fact that Wall St managed insurance companies, that are built into the plan, want to kill it.

      The only way forward on healthcare for Blue states, may be to do what Vermont is doing, create single payer using the ability of ACA's rules before ACA crashes and burns.

  •  This tweet should not be under estimated. (1+ / 0-)
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    Grabber by the Heel

    There is a new final push on, across the board, to try and sink the ACA before its fully enacted.

    The supporters of the ACA and the admin. have done a piss poor job of selling Obamacare. From the get-go.

    They're going to have to step it up.

    The opponents of the ACA, with the gop governors who are managing to obstruct some of the provisions, still have a fingernail-grip on survival.

    Supporters of the bill and the WH had better be alert and ready to kick ass (metaphorically speaking) or this tweet could be prophetic.

    You can't make this stuff up.

    by David54 on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 08:23:09 PM PDT

  •  Is he admitting that Iraq was the Iraq... (2+ / 0-)

    of the Bush administration?

    •  Heh! ; ) No Katrina was ... (0+ / 0-)

      ... the Afghanistan of Iraq. More specifically, Bush's Katrina was the Bush Afghanistan of Bush Senior's Iraq.

      The analogy is between killing millions of people for oil and saving millions of people from a cholesterol-based death?

      Or ....

      I would tip you, but the man took away my tips.

      by Tortmaster on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 10:32:34 PM PDT

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  •  IOW, unbelievably successful (0+ / 0-)

    Is that what he meant?

    Because really, what Iraq gave them (and the MIC in general) had to go way beyond the neocon's wildest fantasies at the outset.

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