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Immigration reform is finally beginning its move through the Senate, with the Senate Judiciary Committee starting to tackle hundreds of proposed amendments. Proposing a ridiculous number of amendments is just one of several Republican strategies attempting to prevent or gut any meaningful reform.

Iowa's Chuck Grassley and Kentucky's Rand Paul are comparing immigration reform to Obamacare, which should give you an idea of what fate they want it to meet; Grassley has also proposed 77 amendments. Utah Sen. Mike Lee, for his part, is urging incremental reform. As in, how about if we just do border control now and put off talking about a path to citizenship.

Grassley is neck and neck with Alabama's Jeff Sessions in the race to offer the most terrible amendments. Grassley wants to restrict visas for refugees and prohibit humanitarian travel, while Sessions wants to require in-person interviews for every immigrant seeking provisional legal status and refuse legal status to low-income undocumented immigrants. Canadian-Texan Ted Cruz just wants to go ahead and ban anyone who's ever been an undocumented immigrant from ever becoming a citizen.

And all the while Republicans are offering all these amendments—the ones seeking to stigmatize and punish immigrants and block citizenship and the ones just seeking to slow down the passage of any reform bill at all—they're screaming that Democrats are the ones proposing a poison pill. That's because Vermont's Patrick Leahy has offered an amendment that would let American citizens sponsor their long-term same-sex partners for green cards. As if Republicans would suddenly be on board with a path to citizenship if Leahy withdrew that amendment. No, it's just another excuse and delaying tactic.

Originally posted to Laura Clawson on Thu May 09, 2013 at 08:35 AM PDT.

Also republished by Daily Kos.

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  •  Sessions is my poster-boy for GOP-Hate (2+ / 0-)
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    radarlady, Serendipity

    I have never seen him do anything that is at all related to just the simple nuts and bolts of government or specific to his constituents.  Its always just RW agenda advancement and a complete bare-naked F**K YOU to anything he views as leftist.

    He put an amendment on this to require in-person interviews of every current illegal alien that is seeking provisional residency.

    The estimate on this is over 11 million people.  So Immigration officers are going to have to conduct and document 11 million in-person interviews around the country.

    Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

    by Wisper on Thu May 09, 2013 at 08:46:47 AM PDT

    •  I'm Confused (1+ / 0-)
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      WorkerInUSA

      Should we also then stop the mandatory interview for those who apply for a U.S. visa?

      In other words, why should we bother to continue to require an interview process for those trying to comet to the U.S. from outside the country if we aren't even going to try to really ascertain the true identity of those we are going to grant residency to that are already inside the country?

      Seems like a giant waste of time.

      I won't be coming home tonight, my generation will put it right - Genesis 9:3

      by superscalar on Thu May 09, 2013 at 09:14:58 AM PDT

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      •  There are a lot of 70 year old (0+ / 0-)

        mothers who want to visit their US citizen children. They previously had visas that have since expired and all they need to do is to get their visas renewed. They often have their interviews waived because they would have to travel overnight by ferry to get to where the consulate is located.

        Many business people who have visa that have expired and have impeccable immigration histories often have their visa interviews waived too.

        Many scholars and experts of international renown are invited by US institutions to come to the US to make presentations. They are well known to our state department staffers abroad. The too may have their interview waived, especially if they have a previous immigration history.

        There's more to visa interview waivers than your comment acknowledges.

        All visa interview waiver policy is trying to do is to allocate use of preciously few resources more wisely.

        The foolish and the dead alone never change their opinions. James Russell Lowell

        by Serendipity on Thu May 09, 2013 at 09:46:28 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  It's the two track system (0+ / 0-)

        We are going to have one track for legal immigrants, and a second track for illegal immigrants. Legal immigrants will have to go through all the interviews, pay all the fees, wait the years, and then they will get the card.

        Illegal immigrants won't have to.

        What a brilliant idea!!

  •  I've got an Amendment. (2+ / 0-)
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    radarlady, jbob

    We need to mandate a minimum wage for all immigrant H1-B Visa workers.

    The minimum wage should be $200,000/yr.

    Why? Because if a Corporation is sponsoring an H1-B worker, they are claiming that this guy is Smarter, Harder-Working, and Cooler than any of us regular Americans.

    Such a person is truly exceptional, and deserves a high salary!

    Besides, let's see if Corporations really need these guys or if they are just trying to drive down wages. Let them put their money where their mouths are.

    Whaddya say? Who is in favor of a Minimum Wage for Immigrants?

    This isn't snark. I'm serious. I'm as serious as cancer (cancer that you can't afford healthcare for because you lost your healthcare when they brought in immigrant workers to take your job).

    •  Not Sure I'd Go That Far (2+ / 0-)
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      ManhattanMan, IT Professional

      but get your point. I used to work in a building owned by Cable & Wireless in Northern Virginia. A British firm. Their Bluetooth division before anybody knew what that was (late 90s). The managers were American but all the "workers," well H1-B Visa folks.

      I never understood how this happened, cause even at that time I knew a lot of Americans that couldn't find a job.

    •  dafuq? (2+ / 0-)
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      webranding, Serendipity

      I have dozens of $100K technical jobs open right this second in Reston, VA.  I posted on this the other day in the Kos Work Bank diary.

      I can't find people to fill them.  I got ZERO responses here.

      Not sure if we'll resort to H1-B's or not, but this idea that there is just a surplus of workers with every qualification known to man is divested from reality.

      We have been recruiting for MONTHS and haven't filled half the spots... we're even paying people to move here from other states.

      Try working on the HIRING side of this issue for a little while.

      Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

      by Wisper on Thu May 09, 2013 at 09:07:05 AM PDT

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      •  As Somebody That Worked Many Years (1+ / 0-)
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        Serendipity

        In NOVA I totally understand. I worked at ad agencies, but high-tech clients. They could NEVER fill all the jobs they had open. It was just a fact of life. When I mention that here folks scream at me. Tell me it isn't true. But alas it is.

        Now I would argue that NOVA is a different area then the rest of the nation, cause well there is this thing called the Federal government, but I feel your pain.

        •  Its a tough market (1+ / 0-)
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          Serendipity

          I am not in the Fed gov or government contracting but yeah.. that is who we compete against.

          Also, if anyone is, or knows someone that is, a college grad looking to get into sales, we are paying up to $1500 relocation costs to move here and do software sales.

          We can't find those jobs either.

          (Note - this is a major global company that everyone on this site has heard of, if not an active customer of ours.)

          Sales is not my department, but we have 30+ jobs open at entry level and a handful for senior sales mangers as well.  Entry requires no experience, senior requires experience specifically in selling software.

          Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

          by Wisper on Thu May 09, 2013 at 09:22:04 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  Again, post the ad (2+ / 0-)
            Recommended by:
            ManhattanMan, IT Professional

            What are you looking for? I know dozens, hundreds, of college grads who are bright and shiny and have no job.

            Certainly one of them would do.

            How much training are you offering? No one can do a job without training.

            You are training right?

            •  No... not in this position (0+ / 0-)

              This is specialized unit within a larger company.  We have entry level positions elsewhere but I am not involved with that and they are not located in Virginia.

              We do training to get people from mid-level to senior level, we train on our specific applications and we offer training to fill gaps in between specializations of senior people.

              Like I said, these are not entry level roles and we have a lot of people that came in fully capable of performing the job on Day 1.  Of course we train on the specialty of the role but we do not have the headcount bandwidth to teach networking fundamentals to someone freshly minted college grad or certification course completer.  We only hire experienced engineers.

              ...unless you meant Sales.  Which in that case OF COURSE we do training.  Its a 90 to 120 day training curriculum to train people that have ZERO experience.  Now.. admittedly, I have no idea how that works.  I am not, nor have I ever been, a sales guy and I hope that I NEVER EVER am.  

              But I do know that I  have an entire floor of my building with almost 200 people (the vast majority of which are fresh graduates or other 20-30 somethings) making some serious cash.... weekly and monthly bonuses, monthly trips to Jamaica for the top sales team, commission incentives, training, seminar trips, and all kinds of other stuff.   ...and in Q4 of this year we're taking over another half-floor within the building to expand more Sales teams for new products.

              Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

              by Wisper on Thu May 09, 2013 at 12:33:36 PM PDT

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      •  Then your company isn't paying well enough. (2+ / 0-)
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        ManhattanMan, IT Professional

        That's basic supply/demand stuff.

        "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

        by bryduck on Thu May 09, 2013 at 09:26:47 AM PDT

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      •  Really? You have $100k Jobs? (2+ / 0-)
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        WorkerInUSA, IT Professional

        Well, if you cannot find workers for your $100K jobs, then The Free Market is trying to tell you something.

        You must raise your wages and make them $120K jobs.  This means that:

        - Your shareholders must accept smaller dividends
        - Your CEO must accept a lower bonus, and
        - Your customers must pay higher prices.

        That is the way The Free Market works. But the 1% (and the corporations they own) are trying to use H1-B visa immigrants to cheat the market. Especially when the market starts to favor labor over capital.

        •  That's ridiculous (2+ / 0-)
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          Serendipity, Wisper

          You are claiming that there are qualified unemployed people who aren't taking $100K jobs, really?

          The problem is that there aren't enough qualified people. My company is also desperately looking for qualified experienced programmers.

          The problem is that in this market any good experienced programmer already has a job.

          •  I didn't say qualified *unemployed* people. (1+ / 0-)
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            WorkerInUSA

            They might not be unemployed. They might be underemployed at another firm. They might be making more than $100k.

            Or, they might be taking a break, living off savings and spending time with their family.

            Whatever. That's none of your business. Your business is the fact that, if you want them to work for you, you must pay more than $100k.

            Corporations must enter into a bidding war for labor. For once. Corporations must not get to dictate immigration policy and they must not become the (unelected) decision-makers over who enters the US.

            (Also if you raise wages, US college graduates will change their majors and get the training to fill your jobs. Why should any college student go $100,000 into debt to study a technical field? Why, when Corporations will just bring over H1-B visa immigrants to take the jobs?)

        •  This is the dumbest thing I've read all day. (0+ / 0-)

          and I even followed a link to Politico this morning, so thats saying something.

          Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

          by Wisper on Thu May 09, 2013 at 09:56:18 AM PDT

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        •  I sure would be interested in (1+ / 0-)
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          IT Professional

          seeing that ad of Wisper's. You know, he's getting no response to the ad where he is offering $100K.

          I know dozens, hundreds, of qualified IT people, who would be very happy for any job at all. And he is getting no applicants?

          What is the ad text? Does he look at the applicants? Does HR screen all ads? How long has he posted it? Where has he posted it?

          I know at least 10 people in Chicago alone who are qualified and degreed software engineers.

      •  Not a single one? Not even one qualified person? (1+ / 0-)
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        IT Professional

        Post the ad. You must be looking for that dad-gum purple squirrel.

        •  Just standard tech work (0+ / 0-)

          Mostly Virtualization/Storage/Backup.

          My post made "top comments".  We started hiring 41 newly created positions a few months ago.. we transferred some of the spots to another state where we have people and just added them there (mostly through internal transfers) but are still looking for 20+ here in NoVA.

          I've worked in DC/NoVA for decades and its always been like this; doesn't matter if the position is entry level or senior management.  I used to work for a San Fran based law firm and it was even harder to hire out there.

          Tech shortage is not a myth.

          Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

          by Wisper on Thu May 09, 2013 at 11:24:08 AM PDT

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          •  Post the ad (1+ / 0-)
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            IT Professional

            Let us take a look. Hey there are plenty of people on DK who are unemployed - you might get a hit.

            •  The link has the summary (0+ / 0-)

              Im not posting the actual link as I have no interest in linking my actual company name to my DKos ID.  

              If anyone is interested, they can contact me or send a resume.  I am not in Human Resources, so if you send me a qualified resume you will be contacted by someone from the Talent Acquisition department to do an online application and schedule a phone interview.  Also, not being in HR, I don't know all the details about things like benefits.  I don't have kids and my wife is an HR exec, so I don't read the details and just sign up for what she tells me to.  But I can tell you we have everything: Health, Flex spending, commuter benefits, 401-k, paid vacation, the works....

              Here are the tech requirements.  This is not entry level.  We need a sizable amount of experience... we're flexible, but make no mistake:  You need to know your shit.  IT people know what I mean.  The salary ranges from the high $50's to the low $120's depending on experience.  There is also the potential for a relocation bonus for very qualified candidates.

              •    Exchange Back-end Management (2003, 2007, 2010)
              •    SQL DB Backup and Restore
              •    Disaster Recovery/ Business Continuity
              o    Backup software such as Backup Exec or Acronis
              •    Windows Server OS support
              •    Virtualization
              o    Hyper-V, VMWare
              •    Networking Essentials
              •    Switching and Routing
              •    Storage (SAN, NAS, DAS)
              •    Microsoft Certification: MCTS, MCITP (Enterprise Messaging Admin) always a plus.

              Fair warning:  You also have to be able to pass a background check and drug test. (Not my rules, but that's the policy for every position in the country at any level)

              And finally:  This is NOT remote work.  We will not consider someone telecommuting or working from home.  You need to be IN THE OFFICE in Northern Virginia every day.

              Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

              by Wisper on Thu May 09, 2013 at 11:43:46 AM PDT

              [ Parent ]

          •  OK, I looked at the ad (0+ / 0-)

            There are 15 skills. Are you looking for someone with all 15, or some combination?

            If HR is screening, and they want someone with all of these, of course you are finding no one. There are no people with all these skills,

            •  I have 65 people with these skills (0+ / 0-)

              I just need a few dozen more.

              No.. I don't need every one of those skills, obviously.. I need people with a solid background in this area.  People with hands on skills in Virtualization, Storage (SAN, NAS, DAS) and Backup platforms.

              Just rounding out the whole job description to distinguish it from things like Database jobs, or Sharepoint Admins or any kind of development work.  I don't need Cisco engineers or VOiP specialists.

              Look at that list.. that is general hands-on network engineering.

              ..of course if someone is so perfectly tailored to the job that they have EVERY one of them, then they should definitely email me... we will pay them absolute top dollar, rent them a new townhouse and pay to move them and their family here.

              Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

              by Wisper on Thu May 09, 2013 at 12:04:18 PM PDT

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              •  So, your core req is (0+ / 0-)

                'No.. I don't need every one of those skills, obviously.. I need people with a solid background in this area.  People with hands on skills in Virtualization, Storage (SAN, NAS, DAS) and Backup platforms."

                If someone has that, you call them qualified and would interview?

                You also say "This is not entry level.  We need a sizable amount of experience... "

                What specifically do you mean there? 5-10 y? 10-15 Y? 1-4 Y? What is "sizeable"?

                •  If they have hands on skills, they are qualified (0+ / 0-)

                  and we'd want to interview them.

                  3-5 I'd say on average... maybe 4-6.... more if they are looking specifically for the higher end of that salary range or are seeking a management position.

                  The key is the skills.  If they are coming from a large company or data-center environment where their specialized job function was building and managing large vSphere environments on parallel SANs running a distributed AppAssure recovery system or something.. then we'd be open to less "years" and just snatch then up for their hands-on knowledge.

                  If they worked at a small company where they were responsible for an entire network, they know Exchange well, they ran a P-to-V process on a half dozen or so servers and used BackUp Exec to backup to an on-site NAS.... well, then we're going to ask a lot of questions about how much hardcore work they've done on these technologies and what other things they know.

                  If they are a hard-core specialized firewall/router engineer.. they may be God-Damned BRILLIANT... and we would have no interest in speaking with them.

                  Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

                  by Wisper on Thu May 09, 2013 at 12:21:08 PM PDT

                  [ Parent ]

        •  This is just my division (0+ / 0-)

          ...my company as whole has 2413 current open positions in the US, according to my Intranet.

          The are in a lot of different states: CA, TX, OK, VA, MA, KY, TN, GA, IL... and that was just what I saw on the first few page.  

          We are behind on recruiting across the board.  

          Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

          by Wisper on Thu May 09, 2013 at 11:28:22 AM PDT

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          •  It's absolutely astonishing (1+ / 0-)
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            ManhattanMan

            Myself, I have advertised about 6 positions in the last year. I live in the middle of nowhere, in flyover country. In each case, I got 30-40 responses of which 6-7 were highly qualified.

            I'VE GOT IT! You are letting HR screen. Here's a tip, from a successful recruiter (that is, me): DO NOT LET HR SCREEN.

            if you take over screening, you would find hundreds of qualified candidates.

            •  HR doesnt do tech screening (0+ / 0-)

              They check for re-location viability, salary expectations, and handle all the admin details of application completion and interview scheduling.

              Managers sift through the resumes to screen... Four of the most senior engineers in the department do the phone interview (which is a basic level tech-screen) and candidates are brought on-site for indepth tech interview and a final interview with the director (both on the same visit).

              HR has to track everything because they log every applicant and whatnot for referrals, EEOC reporting, any relationships with existing employees, etc.

              They also manage the background report, drug test and reference check process. (but those are only done after the acceptance of a tentative offer)

              Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

              by Wisper on Thu May 09, 2013 at 11:49:52 AM PDT

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            •  Tell the other 5-6 qualified candidates (0+ / 0-)

              to consider coming to DC if they really need a job.  We could use them.

              Flyover country, this ain't.  ..and my little $100k job will look like chump change if they are qualified to land a secret clearance and get into government contractor work.

              Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

              by Wisper on Thu May 09, 2013 at 12:00:06 PM PDT

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  •  I Will Just Say What I Always Say (5+ / 0-)

    I am an immigrant. My family came here in the 1870s from Scotland. This nation has been good to us and I want other people to have the same.

    Heck I grew up in a place where it is 98.7% white. Didn't have much experience with folks that didn't look just like me.

    Then I moved to DC. It was wonderful. I could go to the deli owned by a couple from Hungary. Or the little grocery store owned by folks from El Salvador. Or the Korean market.

    It was wonderful. They owned businesses. They gave to our society and I like to think made our country better.

  •  Who wants to bet me that (2+ / 0-)

    a small bunch of the right wing Amendments get passed so the Dems can claim a victory and pass "something"?

    "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

    by bryduck on Thu May 09, 2013 at 09:04:23 AM PDT

    •  Thats how committees are supposed to work (0+ / 0-)

      Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

      by Wisper on Thu May 09, 2013 at 09:11:25 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  And how's that system working for us (0+ / 0-)

        lately?

        "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

        by bryduck on Thu May 09, 2013 at 09:14:13 AM PDT

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        •  better when things go through regular order (0+ / 0-)

          ...not when they are rushed straight to the floor for a show-down vote between parties.

          Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

          by Wisper on Thu May 09, 2013 at 09:18:26 AM PDT

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          •  Better for whom? (0+ / 0-)

            Republicans don't let us do this kind of thing; why do we let them? Aren't we supposed to be already doing the right thing as we see it? We compromise with them, they don't compromise with us, and we lurch every rightward because of that one simple action.
            Showdowns are healthy for the body politic, because when you have them, pols are forced to show their true colors brightly, allowing the voters to see what they truly stand for. And that makes it easier for them to know what they are voting for when they pull the levers each November.

            "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

            by bryduck on Thu May 09, 2013 at 09:23:51 AM PDT

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            •  ? (0+ / 0-)

              Republicans don't control the Senate.  The only way they can get a bill to the floor or in front of a committee is if we let them.

              Unless you mean the House, in which case none of this even applies.  The Speaker runs everything in the House.

              Showdowns are great theater.  But you can't hope for showdowns and then bitch about partisan gridlock.  

              Committees are supported to be where laws and amendments get hashed out and negotiated.  Its not like these things are behind closed doors (unless National Security is being discussed).  I watch plenty of Judiciary Comm hearings all the time.

               But the idea is that once a bill comes out of committee it already has a base-level of bipartisan support and then can be brought for a final "showdown" vote.

              Its how it used to happen all the time......

              Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

              by Wisper on Thu May 09, 2013 at 09:54:32 AM PDT

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              •  When they *did* control the Senate . . . (0+ / 0-)

                Who's bitching about gridlock? With the House in R hands and the Senate Dems as wimpy as they are, who wants what legislation could pass through this Congress? I'm all for theater, as long as that means the voters get to see who stands for what and remembers come election day. That's how representative democracy is supposed to work, after all.
                Yes, that is how it used to happen. Just like the filibusters used to only be used sparingly. That ain't now, for sure!

                "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

                by bryduck on Thu May 09, 2013 at 04:51:40 PM PDT

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    •  Well, they already believe they have a victory (1+ / 0-)
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      bryduck

      The Democrats and way too many Democratic-leaning journalists believe that even having the discussion is a victory.  Never mind the pork for SW states in more border security spending (when we already spend more on immigration enforcement than any other type of law enforcement).  Never mind that the hallowed "path to citizenship" is THIRTEEN WHOLE YEARS of what it seemingly wage slavery.  Never mind that the current language excludes the most recent immigrants, apparently planning another mass deportation......

      There was a good piece in National Journal yesterday about how poor immigrants may get screwed in the bill: http://www.nationaljournal.com/...

      But they all declared victory when the conversations began, which--as I see it--is a perfect way to allow the convo to drift to the right.

  •  So, Calgary Cruz, do (5+ / 0-)

    you include Cubans who managed to make it to our shore by hook or by crook and were paroled in to receive permanent residence a year later in your exclusion because last I looked, if only for a nano second, they were here "illegally."  No?  I didn't think so.

    The thing about democracy, beloveds, is that it is not neat, orderly, or quiet. It requires a certain relish for confusion. Molly Ivins

    by MufsMom on Thu May 09, 2013 at 09:09:03 AM PDT

    •  Ted Cruz must be a LINO (0+ / 0-)

      "Canadian-Texan Ted Cruz just wants to go ahead and ban anyone who's ever been an undocumented immigrant from ever becoming a citizen."

      LINO = Latino-In-Name-Only. His surname cannot hide his contempt for 99% of Americans.

  •  So has GOP finally just given up (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Eric Nelson

    on "reinventing itself" to appeal to growing demographics?

    Or does it think having 1 Cuban-American senator is enough.

    Barack Obama for President

    by looty on Thu May 09, 2013 at 09:13:41 AM PDT

  •  Hey Senator Grassley! (2+ / 0-)
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    RadGal70, Eric Nelson

    You compared immigration reform to Obamacare, a law which you're on the record as opposing. Yet you've offered 77 amendments to the immigration reform bill. Let me ask you something: if all 77 of your amendments pass, will you then vote for the bill?

    That's what I thought.

    The Bush Family: 0 for 4 in Wisconsin

    by Korkenzieher on Thu May 09, 2013 at 09:16:55 AM PDT

  •  Workers pay within 50 miles of the border will dro (3+ / 0-)

    The writing is on the wall for American workers in the ranching,Agriculture and construction trades near the border.This deal will screw up Mostly Mexican Americans but guys like me too.Who will hire a 60 year old guy with health issues ,a 19 year old girl with no job history or anyone that the employers have to give health care to the worker and the families rather than just the worker on a visa from Mecico? This worker will be younger,stronger and give no lip when safety is an issue. We are screwed if this passes.Workers in the Pistacio Orchards pay is up to 15 bucks an hour.That may drop to 8 per hour.

    •  Well, the Democratic party is no longer (0+ / 0-)

      interested in working men and women, that is, who are American citizens.

      Perhaps you should become a citizen of Mexico and come back over the border. The DP will then welcome you and champion your right to have a job in the US.

      But actual blue-collar Americans? Uhhhh, democrats don't do blue collar workers any more. Nope. They smoke and stuff.

  •  Looks like (0+ / 0-)

    Looks like Grassley's drowning already.  

  •  GOP's so-called immigration reform? (0+ / 0-)

    The 11 Most Heartless Republican Amendments To The Immigration Bill

    1. Undocumented immigrants can never become citizens
    2. Mandatory DNA testing.
    3. Zero assistance
    4. Bans humanitarian travel.
    5. Guts family re-unification
    6. In-person interviews for 11 million immigrants
    7. Limits visas to South Korea
    8. Enforces head-of-household deportation and causes family separations
    9. Prevents low-income undocumented immigrants from seeking legalization
    10. Restricts visas for refugees
    11. Allows for racial profiling
    The physically/numerically impossible task of Inperson interviews interrogation/racial profiling of 11 million immigrants; just as one example of where the GOP really stands.

     So this is the republican strategy; a 100% pander to the RWNJ/teabag republican base of bigots.

    It's hard to imagine that they won't pay a huge price for this racist pandering platfrom.

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