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Former Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty attends a U.S. Republican Presidential candidate Mitt Romney ice cream social in Milford, New Hampshire, June 15, 2012.     REUTERS/Larry Downing    (UNITED STATES - Tags: POLITICS ELECTIONS)
Tim Pawlenty, the Scott Walker of 20122011, couldn't have said it better himself.
Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, offering something of a self-endorsement on Thursday night at Iowa's annual Polk County GOP fundraising dinner:
“We should look to our states, to our governors, to our state legislative leaders to show the pathway we take not only in our states but in our country to move forward,” the Wisconsin governor told more than 600 people in attendance at the annual Polk County GOP dinner. “Optimism, relevance, and courage I think are the three keys to success in 2014, 2016 and beyond.”
Walker has become a fashionable pick among some analysts as a 2016 frontrunner. The theory is apparently that being a mild-mannered Republican governor of a midwestern state that voted for Barack Obama is a recipe for success. Or, to put it a bit less charitably, the argument is that he's the Tim Pawlenty of 2016.

Originally posted to The Jed Report on Fri May 24, 2013 at 08:22 AM PDT.

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  •  Intemperate (17+ / 0-)

    deceiving, radical, corrupt, condescending, vain, gullible ("Hello, Scott, this is David Koch"), sneaky. Sure. But mild mannered?

  •  Very few Democrats considering run against Walker (5+ / 0-) regards to the 2014 gubernatorial race.

    One of them is Sara Johann, a progressive political activist who is considering whether or not to form an exploratory committee for a 2014 run against Walker.

    Another one that has been mentioned as a potential 2014 opponent to Walker Chris Taylor, a Democratic state assemblywoman who is one of the most liberal state legislators in the entire country.

    If it takes a village to change a state, it'll take a city to change America!

    by DownstateDemocrat on Fri May 24, 2013 at 08:45:36 AM PDT

    •  All we need is one (9+ / 0-)

      Walker will be well-funded, but I don't think that'll matter. Everyone has made up their minds about him so cash won't sway many people. Just a matter of our team turning out our voters, especially in Milwaukee, which didn't happen when this smarmy prick was elected in 2010. We'll have a good candidate. Walker is vulnerable, and everyone knows it. Vulnerable candidates always attract robust and talented opposition candidates.

      The Bush Family: 0 for 4 in Wisconsin

      by Korkenzieher on Fri May 24, 2013 at 09:29:18 AM PDT

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      •  WI is a swing state with polarized electorate (9+ / 0-)

        There are very few persuadable voters in Wisconsin, so turning out the base will absolutely vital for whoever Walker's Democratic opponent happens to be.

        Running a centrist candidate, such as Tom Barrett, Chris Abele, Ron Kind, Lena Taylor, etc. would actually hurt Democrats in their quest to defeat Walker because centrist candidates often have serious trouble turning out the base. On the other end of the spectrum, Democrats don't want to run a candidate that is easy to paint as a lunatic. Democrats need to run a solid progressive against Walker, but one that comes across as reasonable.

        If it takes a village to change a state, it'll take a city to change America!

        by DownstateDemocrat on Fri May 24, 2013 at 10:08:36 AM PDT

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        •  Abele is a corporcrat in centrist disguise (2+ / 0-)
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          Puddytat, DownstateDemocrat

          as far as I can see. I voted for him, but I'm very unhappy with his performance, for example his duplicitous actions against the Move To Amend resolution, and the sneaky way he tried to hide what the SanFellipo (sp?) bill would do to the county board, to name the first couple of things that come to mind. I no longer think that he has the welfare of regular people at heart.
          I really agree with your comment, just wanted to point out that Abele doesn't merit the centrist label, unless the window has moved even farther right.

          •  Wish I could rec you 100 times (0+ / 0-)

            Yes, I voted, worked to elected and supported Abele who went to see protesters off to the Capitol on several occassions.  Once elected, though, he refused to negotiate with the same unions whose members and busses he saw off to the protests.

            He was a stealth candidate who represents the plutocrats.

            There already is class warfare in America. Unfortunately, the rich are winning.

            by Puddytat on Fri May 24, 2013 at 09:23:42 PM PDT

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          •  Outside of supporting legalizing same-sex marriage (0+ / 0-)

            ...there's nothing good about Abele.

            Abele is a center-right politician who claims to be a Democrat but doesn't fit in well in either of the two major parties. If Republicans weren't so hostile toward moderates, Abele would be a Republican.

            If it takes a village to change a state, it'll take a city to change America!

            by DownstateDemocrat on Sat May 25, 2013 at 01:24:07 AM PDT

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      •  Beware the apparatchiks! (3+ / 0-)
        Vulnerable candidates always attract robust and talented opposition candidates.
        Yes, but frequently the "establishment" Dems manage to help foist a tired-and-true into the mix which damages those candidates and if advanced to the general kill off the enthusiasm of the base.  This is the mirror image of the tea baggers capturing the nomination with seriously flawed candidates who manage to lose GOP-leaning seats.

        My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right.—Carl Schurz
        "Shared sacrifice!" said the spider to the fly.—Me

        by KingBolete on Fri May 24, 2013 at 10:27:15 AM PDT

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    •  Well, she should win most of Madison. (1+ / 0-)
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      Puddytat political activist...
    •  Democrats need to stop contesting against (2+ / 0-)
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      NoMoreLies, Puddytat

      people and start aiming to be hired FOR a position.
      The Cons like making elections into contests between personalities because that minimizes attention to the fact that their "personable" candidates are out of touch. Their campaign consultants may teach them how to shake hands and whom to pat on the back, but the Cons have no hands-on experience. They don't know how to do anything but talk.

      We organize governments to deliver services and prevent abuse.

      by hannah on Fri May 24, 2013 at 10:31:19 AM PDT

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  •  GOP ThunderDome has room for plenty more (1+ / 0-)
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    contestants....Let's put Scotty in the middle of the third list of contenders.

    •  I'm hoping for him to be a top tier candidate (0+ / 0-)

      Like Ryan, he'd be exposed for what he really is.  Our state and local media have been propping him up, hiding his failings, and broadcasting his propaganda as if it was from the lips of God for decades.

      There already is class warfare in America. Unfortunately, the rich are winning.

      by Puddytat on Fri May 24, 2013 at 09:25:57 PM PDT

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  •  Scott Walker as trend setter (4+ / 0-)
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    JeffW, lostinamerica, NoMoreLies, Puddytat

    Yes, let's all follow Scott Walker, because he's done such a swell job in Madison. Wisconsin has underperformed the rest of the country in job creation, refused billions in Federal aid in everything from transportation to Medicare funds, all of which has cost state taxpayers money, and has pretty much started World War Three in what was once the most politically boring state in the union. Yeah, let's use his leadership as a model.

    Scott Walker is probably not going to make it past 2014 in Wisconsin. Laughable that the media is talking 2016 with this putz.

    The Bush Family: 0 for 4 in Wisconsin

    by Korkenzieher on Fri May 24, 2013 at 09:24:45 AM PDT

    •  uh, no (1+ / 0-)
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      kat herder

      i agree that Walker's national aspirations are somewhat ludicrous but Walker's defeat in 2014 is far from a slam dunk, especially with no real front runners from the opposing Dems.

      he's polarizing for sure, but he beat the recall didn't he? in terms of polls the only person he loses to right now is Feingold and he's not running.

      Banking on the American people to be able to sort all this out and declare the adult in the room the winner is a very big bet. -Digby

      by Boogalord on Fri May 24, 2013 at 11:17:56 AM PDT

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      •  Part of the reason... (1+ / 0-)
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        ...He beat the recall was the Wisconsin Democratic Party itself.  I've seen high school council elections run with more sophistication - you start out by nominating the very guy who lost to Walker only 18 months before and who then proceeds to run away from every single issue that sparked the recall in the first place?

        •  very true (3+ / 0-)
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          Stude Dude, Another Grizzle, Puddytat

          also notable was the lack of support from national Dems, on what was an obviously important battle that would shape the narrative of American workers for years to come. shit, Obama's team came in to try and talk us down from it. just be quiet about it because the election is in two years and the President can't be seeing palling around with WI workers. much more politically expedient.

          Walker's supporters think he is Their Guy now. he'd been attacked by the dirty left but he fended them off with the help of the Real White American Wisconsin Worker, and you better believe they're all going to be fired up to give him another term.

          sticking it to The Left is what it's all about

          Banking on the American people to be able to sort all this out and declare the adult in the room the winner is a very big bet. -Digby

          by Boogalord on Fri May 24, 2013 at 12:06:40 PM PDT

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  •  He's T-Paw with Koch money behind him. (2+ / 0-)
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    JeffW, Puddytat

    I'd love to see him run in the primaries myself.

    I think he'd torch a few people with some nasty ads.

  •  Translation ... (3+ / 0-)
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    NoMoreLies, Another Grizzle, Puddytat

    ... of the boxed quote - "Just let ALEC handle it all!"

    OF COURSE the New Right is wrong - but that doesn't make WRONG the new RIGHT!

    by mstaggerlee on Fri May 24, 2013 at 10:06:55 AM PDT

  •  The Pawlenty of 2016? (0+ / 0-)

    I have a very low opinion of Scott Walker.  But the one charge you can't credibly stick on him is that he's the next Tim Pawlenty.

  •  Interesting background... (3+ / 0-)
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    Matt Z, NeverThere, Puddytat that picture, Jed.

    Nobody seems to realize Romney may pull a Harold Stassen, and run again in 2016.

    And logic be damned, he's the White Horse('s Ass) Candidate!

    Float like a manhole cover, sting like a sash weight! Clean Coal Is A Clinker!

    by JeffW on Fri May 24, 2013 at 10:12:16 AM PDT

    •  It is Mr. Bus . . . (3+ / 0-)
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      JeffW, Matt Z, Puddytat

      oh how I missed the sight of it.

    •  Would you lay odds on it? (1+ / 0-)
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      Because I suspect you'd find a lot of takers.

      "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

      by lgmcp on Fri May 24, 2013 at 10:29:50 AM PDT

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    •  The Cons are creatures of habit. (1+ / 0-)
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      They thrive on repetition and imitation. Repetition allows them to appear consistent and imitation allows them to appear innovative and compliant.
      Walker, when he says "move forward" has merely copied the two words most recently associated with the Obamas. Cons do not like to move, but they recognize when something polls well. And "forward" is the OFA theme. People who assume that other people mean what they say interpret others repeating their words as signifying agreement with their intent. But, when we're considering people who just repeat whatever sounds good or gets a popular response, such assumptions are likely to lead one astray. Never mind that there is likely to be no connection between what the Cons say and what they do, because they don't do. Period.
      "All talk, no action" is really hard for active people to understand, unless they're movie actors. Which may be why it is so easy for movie actors to transition into acting on the political stage.
      Turning public service into a side-show may be the most detrimental part of Reagan's legacy. It may also account for the persistent hagiography. The truth keeps having to be suppressed. Reagan introduced deception as a standard operating procedure in Washington and the deception has to be maintained.
      Wherefore the deception? It is the handmaiden of deprivation. Deprivation is central to the exercise of power. Deception serves to disguise who the perpetrators are and minimizes the risk of revenge.

      We organize governments to deliver services and prevent abuse.

      by hannah on Fri May 24, 2013 at 11:13:20 AM PDT

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  •  I think you may be doing a HUGE disservice (6+ / 0-)

    to write Scott Walker off as "mild mannered."

    the look in his eyes is dull and stupid, but either he or the people around him (or both) are incredibly devious, evil, and downright mean people.

    its not just an issue of bad ideas. this one's a bad guy, too

  •  He is a great choice (2+ / 0-)
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    lgmcp, Matt Z

    You get all the yes-man traits of Bush, but more well spoken and less likely to go off on bizarre tangents.

  •  At some point the Republican base should (1+ / 0-)
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    figure out that talk is cheap and, if they want something more from their public servants they'd better start checking more tangible achievements.
    The gift of gab lets incompetents talk people into handing over the loot instead of having it disappear via thievery. Walker's a slick talker. It may be time to resurrect the used car salesman meme.

    We organize governments to deliver services and prevent abuse.

    by hannah on Fri May 24, 2013 at 10:23:45 AM PDT

  •  Well ... he's in tune with his times (2+ / 0-)
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    Stude Dude, Puddytat

    those times being around 1777 -- when the Patriot Party of Boston and the Planter Party of Richmond both agreed there was a continent out there for the taking,  and the only thing standing in the way was the Dutch East India Company The English Parliament the King of England.

    So yes ... the original inclination of the Founders WAS that each Governor would drop the "vice" from his Vice Regal authority and be an elected Monarch in his own realm. His Legislature would voluntarily send as much revenue for the support of the Revolutionary forces (and later the central government) as it blood well FELT like.

    Much ink was spilled in support of Confederation rather than Union ... and the system was tried -- TWICE.

    The first attempt resulted in the Constitutional Convention in 1787  -- under the Articles of Confederation the United States of America could neither pay its debts nor resolve disputes between the Several States

    The second attempt reached it's apex at the Battle of Gettysburg.

    States Rights and Nullification is an ideology with a proven record -- "Let's do it again."

  •  Walker's war on the unions (1+ / 0-)
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    The R's must really want to lose 2016.

    •  it's working well for them so far (2+ / 0-)
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      Stude Dude, Puddytat

      "public worker" is a dirty word to WI conservatives and many of the more stupid who consider themselves "moderates". divide and conquer works.

      Walker is no GWB or Perry. he's most like Paul Ryan; he does a good job at appearing reasonable and articulate, especially if you put him in a debate with a centrist/establishment Dem. he delivers well; "all this cutting of government and eroding public institutions and refusing to expand Medicaid is good for us, it is making us a stronger, more self-reliant people"

      he's good at fooling the stupid

      Banking on the American people to be able to sort all this out and declare the adult in the room the winner is a very big bet. -Digby

      by Boogalord on Fri May 24, 2013 at 11:57:45 AM PDT

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  •  The problem I see.... (3+ / 0-)
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    Matt Z, Stude Dude, Puddytat

    I live in Michigan's Upper Peninsula but as a result of a quirk in FCC rules can only get local Wisconsin stations on cable, so I'm therefore subject to news broadcasts about Snotty Walker almost every night.  One problem I see with this "rising star's" candidacy is that he's an absolutely terrible public speaker.

  •  wait a second... (1+ / 0-)
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    Isn't "looking forward" one of President Obama's themes?  Are the Republicans so desperate (or so smart) that they are now stealing from their arch enemy?  And what's next:  will they be forming a platform with plans to increase Social Security payments,  broaden Medicare coverage to include all Americans, increase Meals-on-Wheels availability, build new and better schools and encourage massive get-out-the-vote efforts?  Will they just steal from President Obama or will they steal traditional Democratic ideas (now that the president, at least, has abandoned some of them)?  Will they be leading the charge to send Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney on a mission to The Hague?  Things are starting to look very promising!  

  •  Governors are tiny Presidents, no? (1+ / 0-)
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    And since the GOP is so gung-ho about bringing absolute power to the States then yes, the governor's office is the way to try and TAKE OVER THE WORLD! (channeling The Brain)

    It's a great way to stack everything from small offices (with family and friends) to stacking or stripping courts to stripping public education and jailing dissenters (think of how many anti-protest laws have been put into place in the last two+ decades). The GOP has had a stronghold on this modus operandi for quite some time and it only makes them yearn for more and more power.

    Strange but not a stranger.

    by jnww on Fri May 24, 2013 at 12:27:46 PM PDT

  •  Because the last two governors (1+ / 0-)
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    your party trotted were so awesome (Bush and Romney) you figure the third time is the charm?

  •  cross out mild-mannered (1+ / 0-)
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    He's a true thug, in the traditional sense. He doesn't believe in the rule of law. He's following the Shock Doctrine theory. The first few months of his administration are what finally convinced me to read that, which I'd been putting off because I thought it would be too depressing. It was, but reading it helped me understand what he was doing.
    He's a Koch puppet, but his own instincts are are just as hateful as theirs.

  •  Tim Pawlenty (0+ / 0-)

    Timmy never won an election by holding the support of the majority of Minnesotans. Three parties ran in every election and Timmy barely won each time. He was not a fair representative of the people as he followed the national republican agenda . I thought he was just usinghis position as governor to get him a better position. My suspicions were correct as he ran for president and was hoping for the vice presidential spot with Romney. No , Tim won't be looked upon favorably in the history books. The GOP in Minnesota have many black marks against them. The period of GOP rule in Minnesota is marked by intolerance, classism,racism and corruption. It's best that we do not soon forget just how awfully the GOP ruled Minnesota.

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