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Extremities in defense of liberty is no vice. Sacrificing themselves in the cause of Freedom this week were four hands, five legs, and one foot.

Six Patriots flipped the bird to private property rights, just as the Founders intended, and exercised their Second Amendment right to leaden trespass, by committing this week's half dozen home invasion shootings. Three Freedom Fighters let fly while cleaning loaded weapons. And it was a banner week for those who let their guns slip from their warm, live hands without even realizing it. We saw eight such pillars of the community forget to secure their weapons before heading to the airport (three in Salt Lake City alone). But once again, the news reports we saw were just a fraction of the real activity level, since the TSA found some sixty such secreted weapons inside of the past week.

Among the standout stories this week were the brand new gun owner who had his first accident (a home invasion shooting) on the very day he bought his new pistol; the varmint hunter who accidentally shot a 70-year-old woman out enjoying (up to that point) a round of golf, and; a teacher in Wichita, Kansas, who, apparently so excited by the new state law allowing school districts to designate an employee to carry a gun at work, designated his own self without telling anybody and ended up having the cops called on him. Thank you, Patriot!

The winner of this week's "Respect the Culture" award goes to the young man in Waterloo, Iowa, who decided to drive home his point about his disapproval of his girlfriend's short shorts by firing five rounds into the air. But don't worry, folks. If you love Freedom enough when you do this—and how can someone who brandishes weapons over wardrobe disagreements really be said not to love Freedom?—those bullets don't have to come down.

In more somber news, 10 kids shot themselves, shot other kids, shot their siblings, or were shot by folks unknown in this week's report. And in Hempstead, Long Island, the police showed us what can actually happen when you fire away at a gunman holding a hostage in a headlock. It was a crazy situation to be sure. But keep that in mind if you can, if you're ever thinking of trying to pull a pick-off move in a crowded movie theater or mall some day. Was the four-hour concealed carry course really enough to prepare you for this? And does that even matter, if you love Freedom hard enough?

This week's list begins below the fold.

  1. PEMBROKE, IL, 4/20/13: A paralyzed woman told police a gunshot wound to her leg was accidentally self-inflicted Saturday afternoon. The 41-year-old Rantoul woman was taken to Riverside Medical Center shortly before 4 p.m. Saturday for a gunshot wound to her inner right thigh. The woman, paralyzed from the waist down and confined to a wheelchair, told Kankakee County sheriff's police that she shot herself while looking at a friend's pistol in Pembroke Township.
  2. BROOK PARK, OH, 4/30/13: A caller reported that a man had shot himself in the hand April 30. The man told officers that while handling his gun, he accidentally pulled the trigger and shot himself. Officers detected an odor of alcohol coming on the man. When asked, he said he had been drinking. He refused a chemical test and was transported to Metrohealth for medical services.
  3. LANSDALE, PA, 5/03/13: Charges have been filed against a Lansdale man who police say accidentally discharged his handgun during a party earlier this month, the bullet shattering the glass of his neighbor’s storm door more than 100 feet away. Gordon Richard Arthur, 57, of the 300 block of York Avenue, faces one misdemeanor reckless endangerment charge and summary disorderly conduct and criminal mischief charges in connection with the incident that occurred on the night of May 3. Police said that Arthur—who smelled of alcohol and whose eyes were red and glassy, according to the affidavit—told them that he and some friends were drinking at a party at his house across the street when he accidentally discharged one round from his Glock 19 pistol as he picked it up from his dining room table to put it away.
  4. TAFT HEIGHTS, CA, 5/10/13: A man was arrested after he was caught firing a firearm while allegedly on bath salts. It was reported two men were walking southbound on Third Ave. armed with rifles, and one of the men was wearing a mask. Both men were armed with loaded .22 caliber rifles. Deputies found Ray was acting bizarre, hallucinating, and believing the responding deputies were God. Deputies learned Ray had been using the designer drug “bath salts” and meth. Deputies determined Ray's odd behavior was a result of using these drugs.
  5. SALT LAKE CITY, UT, 5/14/13: A man ticketed to fly to Chicago O'Hare Airport was found carrying a loaded Kahr Pm9. He was arrested for investigation of weapons violations at the airport, a class A misdemeanor.
  6. FRANKFORT, OH, 5/16/13: 9:27 p.m. — A man told authorities he shot himself in the hand in Frankfort.
  7. HEMPSTEAD, NY, 5/17/13: Here's what really happens if you shoot at a suspect who's got a hostage in a headlock and a gun to her head. The New York college student who was shot during a home robbery early Friday was killed by police gunfire, officials said at a news conference Saturday. According to WNBC, Rebello, a Hofstra University student, and Smith were both shot and killed as he was trying to back out of a rear door holding the woman in a headlock and pointing a gun to her head, police said. An officer fired eight rounds, seven of which hit the suspect and one that hit Rebello, police said, according to WNBC.
  8. BRADENTON, FL, 5/17/13: A 16-year-old boy is in stable condition after what appeared to be an accidental shooting Friday night. Deputies responded about 7:45 p.m. to a fire station in the 1800 block of 30th Avenue East, where they found EMS personnel treating the teen, according to the Manatee County Sheriff's Office. The shooting took place two blocks over, in the 1800 block of 28th Avenue East.
  9. EAST PALO ALTO, CA, 5/17/13:  A 19-year-old man injured in a shooting in East Palo Alto Friday afternoon probably shot himself, Police Chief Ronald Davis said on Twitter. The evidence indicates the victim accidentally shot himself in the leg with a gun in his pocket, Davis said. The victim had told police he was walking to his car on the 200 block of Gardenia Way shortly before 1 p.m. when he heard gunfire and realized he had been hit, Detective Sgt. Angel Sanchez said on Friday.
  10. COALING, AL, 5/18/13: I thought you was a hog, so I shot you in the junk. Still, this could've happened with a crossbow. Or a swimming pool. A man was shot at a hunting camp on Clements Road early Saturday after a suspect hunting hogs possibly mistook the victim for an animal, according to the Tuscaloosa County Metro Homicide Unit. About 1 a.m., Tuscaloosa deputies responded to a reported shooting at the hunting club off Clements Road. The victim, a 26-year-old man, was taken to DCH Regional Medical Center with a single gunshot wound to the groin area and then went into surgery.
  11. BATON ROUGE, LA, 5/18/13: A 12-year-old boy accidentally shot his 8-year-old brother Saturday at a home on Old Rafe Mayer Road, sending the 8-year-old to a hospital with non-life threatening injuries, the East Baton Rouge Sheriff’s Office reported. The 12-year-old found a .380-caliber pistol in a closet in the boys’ grandparents’ home in the 400 block of Old Rafe Mayer, Sheriff’s Office spokeswoman Casey Rayborn Hicks said. The weapon was sitting on the top shelf in the closet, Hicks said.
  12. CHICAGO, IL, 5/18/13: A 12-year-old boy was hospitalized after being accidentally shot while handling a gun with another boy in the Little Village neighborhood Saturday afternoon, police said Sunday morning. The 12-year-old was with another juvenile handling a gun they found inside a residence in the 2800 block of West 23rd Street about 3 p.m. Saturday when the gun accidentally discharged and the 12-year-old was shot in the arms, Chicago Police Department News Affairs Officer Hector Alfaro said this morning.
  13. ASHEBORO, NC, 5/18/13: A 2-year-old boy was accidentally shot when the toddler found an unsecured handgun at his residence on Spring Valley Road, just outside the Asheboro city limits, Saturday afternoon just before 2 p.m. Reynolds said the family—mom, dad and three older siblings—were at home at the time. The child saw the handgun in the parents’ bedroom and put it in his mouth, where it went off.
  14. COLORADO SPRINGS, CO, 5/18/13: I know you'll have a hard time believing this, but someone decided to have a few drinks and clean a loaded gun, and then accidentally shot himself. A Colorado Springs man says he shot himself in the finger Saturday night while cleaning his gun. Joshua T. Crabtree called police around 11:15 p.m. to his home on the 500 block of S Hancock Ave. Crabtree said he had been cleaning his gun when it accidentally went off, shooting him in the left index finger. Police say Crabtree had been drinking at the time of the shooting.
  15. SALT LAKE CITY, UT, 5/18/13: A 48-year-old American Fork woman flying to Chicago Midway Airport was arrested Saturday morning after a loaded Ruger LC9 with seven rounds of ammunition was found in her luggage, according to TSA officials. She was arrested for investigation of weapons violations at the airport, a class A misdemeanor. This was the 18th gun found at the Salt Lake City airport this year. Twenty were found in all of 2012.
  16. QUEENS, NY, 5/18/13: On Saturday, a man traveling to San Francisco was caught with an unloaded .40 caliber gun with two magazines, each loaded with three rounds of ammunition in his carry-on bag. That man was also arrested on a state weapons charge.
  17. HUNTSVILLE, TX, 5/18/13: A teenager was shot and killed at a Walker County residence over the weekend in what is being investigated as an accidental shooting. Officers with the Walker County Sheriff’s Office responded to a call of a reported shooting at a home in the 3000 block of Highway 19 in the early morning hours of May 18. Deputies discovered that two young boys were involved and one had been fatally shot.
  18. PARK CITY, MT, 5/18/13: On May 18, at 5:51 pm., medical assistance was requested for a man on Valley Creek Rd. who accidentally shot himself in the hand.
  19. GEORGETOWN, SC, 5/18/13:  The deputies were told a family friend was at their house and they were all talking when the woman said she bought a new gun. The man asked to hold it, so she retrieved it from her car and handed it to him. Minutes later a shot was heard and the man said he had shot himself. The man did not know the gun was loaded.
  20. DAYTON, NV, 5/19/13: Investigators in Lyon County say an accidental shooting has claimed the life of a 12-year-old in Dayton. Deputies responded to a home on Riverpark Parkway just before 11:30am on Sunday. They say the shooting was an accident and the scene was quickly turned over to detectives.
  21. ST. SIMONS ISLAND, GA, 5/19/13: Police in Glynn County say a man has been charged with reckless conduct in an accidental shooting at a coastal Georgia golf course. Police say a 70-year-old Sea Island woman was shot in her stomach Sunday morning and is hospitalized in stable condition. Authorities say 65-year-old Edward Johnson called emergency dispatchers saying he was shooting at squirrels and accidentally wounded someone.
  22. FLINT, MI, 5/19/13: Police responded around 3:30 a.m. to the 1000 block of Davison Road for a possible shooting. A 26-year-old woman told police she got into an argument with her husband, 25. She told police she tried to shoot him, but ended up shooting herself in the hand and knee, according to the report.
  23. PORTER CO., IN, 5/19/13:  Road rage vs. bicyclists. Three bikers say they were threatened by a man with a gun who was apparently angry with them for not riding far enough over toward the side of the road. "Hey, if you don't watch out that you don't get killed, I'll kill you!"
  24. DEMOPOLIS, AL, 5/19/13: On Sunday, May 19, police responded to an accidental shooting at Cherry Drive.
  25. SHEPHERDSTOWN, WV, 5/19/13: Police said no one was injured, although the bullet ended up lodged in the wall near a table of patrons at the Domestic restaurant, 117 E. German St. Prior to firing the gun, the suspect—a heavy-set white male, age 20-25 and possibly having a first name of Eli—entered the apartment and encountered one of the residents living there, the release states. "The suspect then produced a handgun. The resident retreated to his room as the suspect fired a shot that went through the floor and into the restaurant below. The bullet lodged in the wall near a table of patrons. The suspect then fled the area," it reads.
  26. GARDEN GROVE, CA, 5/20/13: Another guy cleans a loaded gun, and his leg pays the price.
  27. CENTURY, FL, 5/20/13: A 38-year old woman was accidentally shot by her grandfather this evening in Century. Witnesses said the grandfather had .22 caliber weapon to shoot something in yard. The woman reportedly tried to take the weapon from her grandfather when it fired accidentally, striking her in the lower chest or upper abdomen.
  28. STAMFORD, CT, 5/20/13: Pretty much exactly what this whole series is about, all in one incident. A Stamford man was arrested after his new gun accidentally went off while he was cleaning it Monday, Capt. Richard Conklin said. According to Conklin, John Patrick Duffy, 32, of 223 Woodridge South Drive, was cleaning his .40-caliber semi-automatic pistol when the gun went off, sending the round in the chamber through his window and into a neighboring home on Florence Court at 5:15 p.m. Monday. Duffy originally denied the bullet came from his gun, which he had just purchased that day, police said. But officers continued to question him and told him to tell the truth after they saw a piece of paper taped over a hole in the window, the captain said.
  29. SPARTANBURG, SC, 5/20/13: Police say the couple had been staying at a Spartanburg apartment as guests of another couple. A police report says Sutelman told officers they were playing with a 12-gauge shotgun inside the apartment and she thought the gun's safety was on so she pulled the trigger, hitting Moholland. Coroner Rusty Clevenger says an autopsy was scheduled for Tuesday.
  30. ATLANTA, GA, 5/20/13: A fight breaks out in a parking lot (on Gun Club Road). Who got shot? The 8-year-old girl sleeping in her bed in a nearby apartment, that's who. That's some great shootin'.
  31. WICHITA, KS, 5/20/13: This year, the state Legislature passed a law that allows school districts to designate an employee to carry a gun. But the Wichita district has not addressed the issue, and all seven board members have said they would not support an employee carrying a gun. Still, I guess that was enough for one teacher to just go right the #*@% ahead and bring a concealed gun to school. Didn't even bother to tell the principal, who was actually the one who called the police.
  32. HEBRON, KY, 5/20/13: A Union, Kentucky, man is arrested after TSA agents at the Cincinnati airport found a loaded gun in his carry-on bag. Officials say the man was arrested on Monday morning during the screening process. TSA contacted the Airport Police who confiscated the .380 caliber handgun, loaded with six rounds, and arrested the man on a state weapons charge.
  33. HARVEY, LA, 5/20/13: A witness told detectives that McClendon and another man were drinking with Casbon in Casbon’s garage around midnight. McClendon told investigators that he accidentally shot Casbon while moving the gun from a shelf and putting it into his pants pocket. The men had been engaged in horseplay while drinking and McClendon claimed he was moving the gun for safety, Boyd said. Nice job on the "safety" thing.
  34. QUEENS, NY, 5/21/13: A man found carrying a loaded gun in his carry-on baggage at John F. Kennedy International Airport has been arrested, according to the Transportation Security Administration. This is the second such arrest at JFK in four days, officials announced. TSA screeners spotted the loaded gun inside the man’s bag Tuesday morning and alerted Port Authority Police. The officers confiscated the .22 caliber handgun that was loaded with two rounds and arrested the man on a state weapons charge, the TSA said.
  35. LEBANON, TN, 5/21/13: Police Chief Scott Bowen said in a news release that the incident occurred about 8:40 p.m., Tuesday, May 21, at 505 Fairview Ave., Lebanon. Upon arrival by officers, they found a 14-year-old boy who had been shot in the leg. He was on the front porch with a friend who is also 14, looking at a gun when it was discharged. The victim told police that he accidentally shot himself while handling the gun. He was transported to Vanderbilt Medical Center from University Medical Center for further treatment. “Police do believe this to be an accidental shooting,” Bowen said.
  36. TRIGG CO., KY, 5/21/13: Busy night at Vanderbilt! An accidental shooting sent a Trigg County toddler to Vanderbilt Medical Center overnight. Kentucky State Police were called to a residence in Trigg County just after 9 p.m. Tuesday in reference to a 2-year-old suffering a gunshot wound to the head. The child was initially taken to Trigg County Hospital, then transferred to Vanderbilt with non-life threatening injuries.
  37. PHILADELPHIA, PA, 5/21/13: A Cumberland County man was taken into custody after a loaded gun was found in his luggage at Philadelphia International Airport. Transportation Security Administration officers at the airport spotted a loaded gun in a man's carry-on bag yesterday. Philadelphia police arrested the Vineland man on a state weapons charge and confiscated the .22 caliber revolver. The man is also facing up to $11,000 in fines.
  38. SHEFFIELD, AL, 5/21/13: This is very nearly the ultimate dick move in #GunFAIL: the "home invasion" that actually hits somebody. Yet another guy decides to clean a loaded gun in his apartment, and this time when it goes off, he gut-shoots his neighbor through the wall, sending him to the hospital in critical condition. Way to go, Responsible Gun Owner!TM Thank you for keeping your neighborhood safe and blessing us with Liberty!
  39. EUGENE, OR, 5/21/13: A Springfield man who claimed to have accidentally shot himself Tuesday with a gun he found in Skinner Butte Park ended up being charged with a crime after investigators learned he is a convicted felon, police said. Eugene police officers were called to PeaceHealth Sacred Heart Medical Center University District hospital shortly after 5:30 p.m. and spoke with Benjamin E. Degroot, who had arrived at the facility after suffering a gunshot wound to his left leg, a police spokeswoman said. Degroot, 19, told officers that he was walking in Skinner Butte Park in Eugene when he came upon a handgun and picked it up, police said. Degroot said the gun accidentally went off and a bullet struck him in the leg, police said.
  40. CLEVELAND, OH, 5/21/13: A 61-year-old Independence man was arrested Tuesday afternoon after Transportation Security Administration officers found a loaded gun in his carry-on bag at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport. The officer called Cleveland police, who confiscated the .38-caliber gun, which was loaded with five rounds, including one in the chamber, TSA said in a news release. The man told police that he had a concealed carry permit for the gun, according to police reports. Prior to arriving at the airport, he said that he looked through his bag three times and could not find the gun, assuming that he left it in another bag.
  41. CLOQUET, MN, 5/21/13: A woman told police her husband was drunk and had fired two shots from a revolver. Police say she locked herself in a bedroom but was able to get out of the house when police arrived. She told authorities her husband hid the gun. Police talked to the man over the phone and were able to get him to come out of the house without further incident. They found the gun on the roof of the home.
  42. CROZET, VA, 5/21/13: Police still aren't saying for sure whether this was an accidental shooting, but it certainly has all the hallmarks of one. Tuesday at 10 a.m., the call went out for help. Albemarle County police say a 14-year-old boy shot Maggie and killed her on the 1400 block of McAllister Street. Albemarle County police remained on the scene for several hours to conduct their investigation. Neighbors say the shooting happened at a home behind the Open Door Ministry Center. Maggie's father Paul is the pastor at Commonwealth Christian Community Church, formerly Victory Hill Church of God, in Crozet.
  43. WATERLOO, IA, 5/21/13: Police have arrested a Waterloo man accused of firing a handgun into the air because he was upset that his girlfriend was wearing short shorts. Police say Bullock and his 21-year-old girlfriend argued because of her shorts. Officers say that during the argument, Bullock raised a handgun in front of the woman, left the home and fired at least five shots into the air. Police say he then went back inside and told his girlfriend he would hurt her and her children if she told police he had a gun. Please respect gun culture, everybody.
  44. FT. WAYNE, IN, 5/22/13: One man was hurt after a gun went off in a garage on McKee Street early Wednesday morning. The gun was either being placed into a bag or fell to the ground when it discharged, according to investigators. Detectives said several witnesses provided varying descriptions of what happened. Police said the owners of the property found the gun in the garage when they moved in. Police found a second gun behind the house during the investigation. No one claimed ownership of either weapon.
  45. BISMARCK, ND, 5/22/13: Yet another home invasion shooting, where gun rights reduce property rights to an "oopsie." Now, let's see if we can solve the mystery that eluded the reporter in this story. "Bismarck police are trying to find out who fired a gun inside an apartment building on East Indiana Avenue. It happened sometime around 10:30 Wednesday night. A resident said he was in bed when he heard a bang, and noticed a bullet had come through his door. A man then came to his apartment and asked if he was ok, and said it had been an accident." Okay, I'm going to guess that the Bismarck police should be talking to ... the man who came to this guy's apartment. See also: http://bismarcktribune.com/...
  46. HARRISBURG, PA, 5/22/13: A Harrisburg man suffered significant injuries Wednesday night when he accidentally shot himself with a sawed-off shotgun, according to city police. The 39-year-old man was carrying the shotgun wrapped in a jacket when it discharged, police said.
  47. MOBILE, AL, 5/22/13: After accidentally shooting himself in the foot Wednesday, officers are expected to arrest a man currently recovering at a local hospital, according to the Mobile Police Department. The man told officers he was robbed and shot by two men, but the story didn't make sense to investigators, according to Patrick. "Further investigation revealed that our victim had accidentally shot himself," Patrick said. He had been carrying a gun illegally and ditched it before police arrived. Patrick said it, along with a "small amount of marijuana," was found in a nearby patch of woods.
  48. ODESSA, TX, 5/22/13: An Odessa teenager shot in the leg, tried to play the victim, but ended up being arrested instead. 17-year-old Hilario Loya initially told investigators he was shot by a stranger in a pickup while he was walking with his friend. When things didn't add up, they questioned the friend, 17-year-old Ricardo Uribe. Uribe confessed that he and Loya were driving in a vehicle when Loya pointed a pistol out of the car window. It misfired and when Loya pulled the gun back in.
  49. LITTLE ROCK, AR, 5/23/13: Tell us again how we need to stop worrying about concealed carriers, because they're so much better trained and more responsible than most! Concealed carrier leaves 5 and 6 year old kids in the truck alone (with a loaded gun in the console), but hey, it was only for a minute! Which is coincidentally about how long it takes a 6-year-old girl to find a loaded gun in a truck's center console and use it to shoot her 5-year-old brother.
  50. WEST PALM BEACH, FL, 5/23/13: Concealed carry ninja blasts himself in the stomach when the gun in his pocket goes off. We just had that happen to the guy in the bowling alley last week. Same county.
  51. SALT LAKE CITY, UT, 5/23/13: Not. Even. Kidding. A THIRD gun was found by TSA agents at the Salt Lake City airport this week, this one loaded & strapped to a man's prosthetic leg! That's the 19th gun found there this year. And sixty guns were found at airports nationwide in the past week.
  52. BURNSVILLE, MS, 5/23/13: Tishomingo County authorities say a five-year-old died after being accidentally shot by a family member Thursday night. Sheriff's officials say they were called to the Cotton Gin Trailer Park in Burnsville along with Burnsville Police around 10 p.m. When officers arrived, they found the child. Officials are not releasing the names of those involved and say the case is closed.
  53. GREENVILLE, TX, 5/24/13: Greenville police say a child was accidentally shot and killed inside a home Friday morning. According to police, they received a 911 call at about 10:45 a.m. that someone had been shot inside a residence. The first officer arrived at the scene only a minute later and located the injured 12-year-old child, identified as Keshawn Carter Davis. The child was transported to Hunt Regional Medical Center in Greenville where he was later pronounced dead.
  54. HOMESTEAD, FL, 5/24/13: Police are on the scene investigating after a student was grazed by a bullet at a South Florida school. The incident occurred at Redland Middle School, located on 16001 SW 248 St. in Southwest Miami-Dade, Friday afternoon. According to a Miami-Dade County School District spokesperson, a student took a gun to school in a backpack. The gun accidentally discharged and hit a student in the leg. UPDATE: The bullet went straight through the victim's leg, not a graze wound as first reported. The gun apparently fired when the backpack it was in hit the ground. Remember, this will never happen with teachers, because their bags float in mid-air.
  55. BEND, OR, 5/24/13: A boy was flown to a Bend hospital after investigators said he was accidentally shot by a family member. It happened at 10:40 a.m. Friday on Thicket Lane in the Crooked River Ranch community of central Oregon. Deputies arrived and said a juvenile male suffered a non-life threatening gunshot injury.

Originally posted to David Waldman on Fri May 24, 2013 at 08:01 PM PDT.

Also republished by Shut Down the NRA, Repeal or Amend the Second Amendment (RASA), and Daily Kos.

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  •  Another chapter of this tragicomedy that happens (12+ / 0-)

    all too frequently in our great Country.

    Then they came for me - and by that time there was nobody left to speak up.

    by DefendOurConstitution on Fri May 24, 2013 at 08:04:35 PM PDT

    •  So many kids and really young people! nt (10+ / 0-)

      Then they came for me - and by that time there was nobody left to speak up.

      by DefendOurConstitution on Fri May 24, 2013 at 08:09:01 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Funny that you should use the term, "tragicomedy." (12+ / 0-)

      My initial response was, "There is nothing funny about death and destruction."
      But then I have to admit that with some of these reports you are hard pressed not to burst out in knee-slapping laughter. Check out the case from my neck of the woods:
      (as taken from David's report)

      Pretty much exactly what this whole series is about, all in one incident. A Stamford man was arrested after his new gun accidentally went off while he was cleaning it Monday, Capt. Richard Conklin said. According to Conklin, John Patrick Duffy, 32, of 223 Woodridge South Drive, was cleaning his .40-caliber semi-automatic pistol when the gun went off, sending the round in the chamber through his window and into a neighboring home on Florence Court at 5:15 p.m. Monday. Duffy originally denied the bullet came from his gun, which he had just purchased that day, police said. But officers continued to question him and told him to tell the truth after they saw a piece of paper taped over a hole in the window, the captain said.
      Maybe we should have two separate reports - one highlighting the bumbling idiots with guns doing harm to themselves, and another capturing the heartache being inflicted on society through the use of guns.

      Maya Angelou: "Without courage, we cannot practice any other virtue with consistency. We can't be kind, true, merciful, generous, or honest."

      by JoanMar on Fri May 24, 2013 at 08:48:50 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  I think it is meant to be mainly the first kind (0+ / 0-)

        The second report, if someone were to compile it, would be much longer, about 6000 items per week, and that is if you restrict yourself to those cases where someone actually dies from a gunshot wound.

        "A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." - George Bernard Shaw

        by Drobin on Mon May 27, 2013 at 09:49:08 AM PDT

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      •  "cleaning" not cleaning (4+ / 0-)

        Nobody accidentally fires a weapon while cleaning it.

        The very first step in cleaning a weapon -- PRIOR to cleaning it -- is clearing any ammunition. You cannot properly clean a weapon and negligently fire it.

        This is a bullshit lie gun idiots tell when they have been childishly and irresponsibly fucking around with a weapon and negligently discharge a round. Allowing them to tell this little face-saving lie aids and abets the ongoing gun tragedy that plays out every day in America.

        If you are responsible enough to own a weapon, you must responsible enough to not treat it like a toy. Any negligent discharge should be grounds for suspension of gun rights for a period commensurate with the severity of the offense.

        Any negligent discharge is proof of lack of responsibility and therefore proof that that person does not have the right -- is not responsible enough -- to own a gun.

        As always, puerile conservatives (and all too many ostensible liberals) want all the rights with none of the responsibilities.

  •  It's endless, isn't it. So many little (13+ / 0-)

    accidents and misdemeanors and deaths of children and
    &^($^%#@!

    •  Here's another example of "responsible gun owner" (11+ / 0-)

      I saw a few days ago. Now mind you, one was a cop and the other a corrections officer, both are professions that require very extensive weapons training.
         They were "responsible gun owners" until they weren't- like so many "responsible gun owners".
         What did they do? Well...
      Police: Couple Left Infant and Toddler in the Car While They Drank in the Bar, Father is a Police Officer

      Officer Jacob Moore was first on scene. Moore wrote in his report that the children's parents, 35 year old Michael Webb and 29 year old Staci Hall, were found inside the bar drinking.
      snip
      One was an 11 month old infant. The other was a three year old child.
      snip
      Webb was carrying a badge and worked in Ohio as a police officer.
      "At that point we went to the vehicle and he notified us that his weapon, which he claimed to be his duty weapon, was inside of the car as well," said Talamantez. "It wasn't in any holster.
      "It was fully accessible to the children."
      http://www.wmbb.com/...

      and from another source-

      Webb is a police officer in Ross Township, police said. Officers said they found a loaded and unsecured handgun inside the vehicle that was easily within reach of the children. The .40-caliber Glock had a bullet in the chamber, police said.
      http://www.wlwt.com/...
      Cue the gun nutz to defend these idiots, or why guns should be allowed in bars , or while drinking, or explain why every child needs taught gun safety in school...
         Leave your kids locked up in a car while drinking with a loaded gun within reach netted them a $500 bail.
         To put that in proper context, when I was arrested for buying 2lbs of weed from a cop my bail was $500,000.
         Nope, they don't treat "responsible law abiding gun owners" preferentially- hell, last case I saw where a idiot left their dog in a car warranted a much stiffer bail and charges....

      Be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

      by teabaggerssuckbalz on Sat May 25, 2013 at 05:00:38 AM PDT

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      •  Oh, and just so we all know that we're not alone (8+ / 0-)

        in thinking this gunz shit is off the chain, even The Daily Mail picked up on that story...

        Cop and his wife left their two young children in the car within reach of a gun while they went drinking inside a bar
        An Ohio police officer and his wife were arrested for leaving their two young children in the car unattended with a loaded gun
        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/...

          If there is zero tolerance in schools for guns, to the extent to wghich a 5 yr old is expelled for pointing a chicken finger "in a gun-like manner" then I can't help but ask exactly where is the repercussions for the idiots who are obvious failures at having been "responsible" with their gunz? Where is the zero tolerance for these imbeciles? Where's the expulsion for life from gun ownership?
          One strike you're out, done, finished, banished is the way it should be- along with being hit with the most severe penalty under law.
          Period

        Be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

        by teabaggerssuckbalz on Sat May 25, 2013 at 05:42:35 AM PDT

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        •  If they had left their children alone in a car (2+ / 0-)
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          with an open bottle of alcohol, an open bottle of drain cleaner, or any number of other toxic or dangerous substances, ANY cop, EMS, or other first responder would have been REQUIRED to report them to child protective services and their kids would likely have been taken into protective custody pending an investigation.

          Actually, this applies to guns, too. At least in NY.

          So this raises the question, how exactly did they skate on this? Did the law enforcement on scene violate their duty because a gun was involved and gun nutz get special rights? Did they do it for a "member of the service?"

          Not to mention: Seriously? You leave an open, loaded weapon in your car while you are in a bar getting plastered? How is this an example of "responsible gun ownership?" Were either of these "responsible gun owner" Bozos staying sober to drive themselves AND THEIR KIDS home safely after visiting the bar? Designated driver? Anyone? Why do I suspect the answer to this is no?

          Leave the kids alone with a loaded gun with a chambered round and you get a slap on the wrist. Just another example of the negligent and preferential treatment irresponsible gun owners get in gun-crazy America.

      •  revoke his license forever. (3+ / 0-)
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        Next.


        "So I'm at the wailing wall, standing there like a moron, with my harpoon." - Emo Philips

        by AlyoshaKaramazov on Mon May 27, 2013 at 09:47:11 AM PDT

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      •  Quick question... (2+ / 0-)
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        Did the charges include anything about commercial distribution?  I don't think it takes more than an ounce or two to get stoned.  

        I'm a 4 Freedoms Democrat.

        by DavidMS on Mon May 27, 2013 at 10:03:49 AM PDT

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        •  So, what if it did? you're still comparing apples (2+ / 0-)
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          to oranges whichever way you try to slant it. No, since they'd conveniently packaged it up in advance I got a charge for each bag they saw fit to contain it in- I didn't buy  33 bags, I bought two pounds.
             None of that is even relevant to the conversation, take that shit back to your posse, dude.
            When a cop, one who knows the law, who legally has the right to the gun he left in reach of two unattended children, whom he'd left in the freaking car so his dumbass could go drinking- fuck yes, his bail should've been much more than $500. That indicates that the law isn't going to do shit to him.
             I just read earlier today about some idiot in GA leaving his dog in the car and the dog died as a result- he's facing felony animal abuse.
             Your gun toting compadre left two helpless kids in the car with a loaded gun within reach.
            But all you can do is crack some shit about me?
            You need to get that treatment for that gunz addiction, it truly has clouded ant sense of judgement you may have once had if you think what I did 40 years ago is somehow worse than what this fool did just this week.

          Be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

          by teabaggerssuckbalz on Mon May 27, 2013 at 01:45:55 PM PDT

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          •  You are changing the subject. (0+ / 0-)

            It  may not have been packaged for individual distribution but that is very cheap and easy to fix.  2 pounds is a commercial quantity.  Small plastic baggies are available easily and cheaply as they have many non-criminal uses.  

            I would like to see drug decriminalization but, I have issues with it possessing them until they are decriminalized.  Its just asking for legal trouble.  

            Its pretty clear that you were charged with a lot more than simple possession.  

            I'm a 4 Freedoms Democrat.

            by DavidMS on Mon May 27, 2013 at 07:16:50 PM PDT

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            •  The point was that the two idiots in the story (1+ / 0-)
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              had an extremely low bail for having left two kids in a car while drinking and within reach of a loaded gun. What's not to get about that?
                 But since you want to make this about me and ignore the stupidity of idiots that leave their kids in the car to go drinking while a loaded gun is within their reach, fine.
                 Any amount is a commercial amount, illegal is illegal, there may be a 'personal use' threshold now but there certainly wasn't at that time in that particular state.
                 I never once stated that I was charged with possession,  I was charged with trafficking. Whatever the amount is not even relevant, the same charges would've applied had it been 1/2 an ounce and split up into more than one package- I didn't package it nor ask that it be. It was a set up to inflict the most amount of legal damage, I bought 2lbs, not 33 bags of shit, regardless of what my own intent was.
                 Since you are all for "freedomz" according to your sig line it would seem to me that a 'freedomz" lover like yourself wouldn't be happy with police selling marijuana to citizens then busting the citizen for buying it.
                 But hey, 'freedomz' to leave your two kids in the car with a loaded gun in their reach while getting hammered is still 'freedomz', I get it . So instead of all gunz all the time it's all 'freedomz' all the time,right?
                 Doesn't it just suck for some yahoo to just put words in your mouth?
                 Sure does, I know...
                 

              Be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

              by teabaggerssuckbalz on Tue May 28, 2013 at 02:58:48 AM PDT

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      •  So......we should illegalize alcohol? (1+ / 0-)
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        Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

        by FrankRose on Mon May 27, 2013 at 10:55:48 AM PDT

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        •  No (3+ / 0-)

          The only proper response to a drunk bad guy with a gun is a drunk good guy with a gun!

          Being drunk with a gun is a God-given right in Uhmerkuh!

          An' I am no' 'runk!

          Ah'm a 'spon'ble gu' 'wner, ah um! An Ah um no' dr.. dr.. 'runk!

          Ah kin hanmble my sef an' mah gu' jes' FINE! (hic)

          (BANG!)

          oops.

          (giggle)

          Sor' 'bou' thah.. did thah hurt? (chortle)

          Ah nee' 'nother 'rink.

          You prolly nee' one, too! (hic) Thah lookz painful.

          •  You're in luck. We already have a well-established (0+ / 0-)

            case study on how well prohibition works.

            Not so much, it would seem.

            I have no idea how one could take the original post (leaves a toddler & infant alone in a car to go to the bar) & conclude that the firearm (or for that matter-the alcoholic drinks, or even the car the kids were left in) is the issue.

            As-per the original comment- the person responsible was a police officer, what kind of gun control would have prevented this situation? Disarming the police?
            And, even if this couple didn't have a firearm, would you have them babysit your kids?

            The issue isn't the firearm, or the alcoholic drinks or any other object-it is the individuals that were grossly negligent.

            Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

            by FrankRose on Tue May 28, 2013 at 06:08:19 AM PDT

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      •  You must still be spliffin' (6+ / 0-)

        Where do you get "responsible gun owner" from this story?

        What you should have gotten was:  "What the fuck are we doing EMPLOYING THIS SORT OF PERSON as a watchdog over the rest of us?"

        You know, the one who is empowered with saying:  "SHUT THE FUCK UP OR I'LL BUST YOUR HEAD."  

        His institutional pals are the one who say:  "WHAT Miranda?
        This is PATRIOT Act America now, bitch."

        And YOU conflate this to "licensed gun owner"?
        THESE are the people Kossacks look-to as the means of effecting the whup-ass upon the gun-loving/teabagging/Obama-hating/NRA-types.

        How'z that workin' for you today?

        Oh, and that bail of $500?  

        Yeah, sorry... it's a formality.
        We're cops, you're a cop... it's all good.
        There isn't fuck-all of preferential GUN OWNER treatment here.  It's the THIN BLUE LINE.  Get your memes right.

        The country was in peril; he was jeopardizing his traditional rights of freedom and independence by daring to exercise them.” ~ Joseph Heller, Catch-22

        by 43north on Mon May 27, 2013 at 10:59:55 AM PDT

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        •  That too. nt (0+ / 0-)

          Dwell on the beauty of life. ~ Marcus Aurelius

          by Joy of Fishes on Mon May 27, 2013 at 04:28:51 PM PDT

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        •  Flat out bullshit. COps do get the royal blue (1+ / 0-)
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          treatment, yes, and I agree with that.
             I can cite thousands, yes, I said thousands of cases of fails, ignorance, stupidity, recklessness, irresponsibility, and yes, downright criminal acts committed by "responsible law abiding gun owners" that were never charged with ANYTHING, let alone had the right to keep and bear arms revoked, including public discharge that resulted in fatalities. That's a fact. It doesn't need my proving it, just read though the stories mentioned in this diary, you'll find examples of it in the form of "no charges were filed", "police ruled incident as an accident". ect.
            That is sickening. You take any incident listed above, just pick one, and add to it, as is done so often, that  the party had a criminal record that committed any of the stupid ass accidental discharges, accidental deaths, leaving loaded gun in car with kids while drinking in a bar...
             Sure, they have a criminal record and should not have had the gun, that is a charge of weapon under disability or illegal possession of a firearm- but what you'll quickly notice in those cases is that they also end up with every imaginable charge the police and prosecutors can think of to cover the dumbass shit they did.
             You can claim that somehow it's different but how so, exactly? Stupid shit and reckless and irresponsible behavior with a firearm should be criminal regardless of who commits the act. Somehow "responsible law abiding gun owners" get a pass on many of the cases I've tracked, no charges whatsoever in gun related deaths even.
             Don't get me wrong here, one with a criminal record is not supposed to have a gun and I get that all too well. The problem I see is when a person with a record does some dumb shit with a gun, say leaves their gun in reach of a child that picks it up and shoots their sibling to death. You won't see "the parents have suffered enough already in losing their child due to this unfortunate accident, so we're declining prosecution". Oh hell no, it's the full Monty, illegal possession of a firearm, negligent homicide, felony child neglect, felony child abuse- felony kitchen sink.
             That is indeed obvious preferential. If the act is indeed deemed criminal, call it what it is, prosecute it for what it is, and punish for what it is.
             No matter who commits the act.  
             And yes, I still splif on occasion, you seem way hung up on that fact as if it has relevance to the conversation.
           

          " How'z that workin' for you today?"
            Very well, thank you for asking.
             

          Be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

          by teabaggerssuckbalz on Tue May 28, 2013 at 03:44:58 AM PDT

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          •  No, you cited A COP who did this. (0+ / 0-)

            This was COPS favoring a COP, doing what COPS DO.
            I'm just surprised it was his wife, and not some willing cop groupie who was bar-hopping with him.

            She/they is/are probably still in Ohio, fuming over his 'betrayal'.

            "... with his WIFE?  That FUCKER."
            Now to the rest of it:
            The problem I see is when a person with a record does some dumb shit with a gun, say leaves their gun in reach of a child that picks it up and shoots their sibling to death. You won't see "the parents have suffered enough already in losing their child due to this unfortunate accident, so we're declining prosecution".
            That's because we've made a felon a life-long sentence, regardless of determinate sentencing.
            Oh hell no, it's the full Monty, illegal possession of a firearm, negligent homicide, felony child neglect, felony child abuse- felony kitchen sink.
            We're talking about a felon-underclass, which shouldn't be breeding, shouldn't be living in a apartment or home, should be working "out" with the citizenry.  The "right" place is back in prison forever.  That's where the profit is.
            That is indeed obvious preferential. If the act is indeed deemed criminal, call it what it is, prosecute it for what it is, and punish for what it is.
               No matter who commits the act.  
            That would include politicians, sons of wealthy persons, often the same person.  That won't do.
            Cops are associated as henchmen of the wealthy, so they too must be granted as much leeway as possible.
            And yes, I still splif on occasion, you seem way hung up on that fact as if it has relevance to the conversation.
            One comment in the title, and "way hung up" is the result?
            It's not like I posted video clips from Nice Dreams, or asked if your IRL name was Marc Emery.

            THC-induced paranoia isn't something I've seen a lot of... so pardon my surprise.

            The country was in peril; he was jeopardizing his traditional rights of freedom and independence by daring to exercise them.” ~ Joseph Heller, Catch-22

            by 43north on Tue May 28, 2013 at 04:39:02 AM PDT

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            •  Constant paranoia of being around other people (0+ / 0-)

              is something I've seen a lot of...
                 So an Ohio cop clear the fuck down here in Fla is given a pass by his brethren officers? I don't buy it, period.
                 And equal protection and blind justice actually is just what? A crime is a crime is a crime.
                 I see you were one of those cops, nice...

              Be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

              by teabaggerssuckbalz on Tue May 28, 2013 at 05:41:14 AM PDT

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              •  Quid Pro Quo (0+ / 0-)

                You'd be surprised at what a FOP card could do for you... if facing the right cop.

                You'd be surprised at the number of Florida cops who were employed elsewhere first.  Or the number of Florida cops who might be traveling somewhere else, and also run afoul of the law on vacation.

                You'd be surprised to find a Guardians Society card in my wallet, which gets me no where in Cracker America... yet has far better "pull" in Philly, Baltimore, and Newark.

                You'd be surprised to find no cop badge in my wallet.
                As you confuse "Investigator" with "police officer".
                Not everyone with a gun and arrest powers, is a "police officer" as defined in State and Federal law.

                This whole "gun owner" thing gets you no credibility in most States above the Mason-Dixon.

                Maybe what you should be asking is:  Do cops give WHITE GUN OWNERS a "bye" - unless they're convicted Felons?
                By extension, is every black and/or hispanic man a presumed Felon, and therefore there's no slack given?

                Each will have 10-count arrests, with crimes ranging from: illegal removal of mattress tags - to attempted Felony Murder.

                That's closer to the answer you seek:
                "A soon-to-be-Felon with a gun."

                The system's hungry.  More people "in" equals more cash "out" and into the hands of stockholders, and thereby politicians.

                Not to mention the ever-increasing needs for more and better weaponry, less-and-less civil rights, more presumption of guilt, less judicial oversight, more and better cop jobs, with less and less time spent on-scene.

                The excesses of LA and Oakland PDs, spawned by a small departments handling many calls in a short on-scene timeframe, resulted in widespread abuses of the minority community.  That resulted in the Black Panther Party.
                That resulted in Reagan and the Cali Legislature voiding the right of a black man to have a firearm per California law.
                Police-the-Police was short-lived, and we reverted to Jim Crow, California-style.

                There's nothing new about this.  Only that the entire nation is under this rule.

                The country was in peril; he was jeopardizing his traditional rights of freedom and independence by daring to exercise them.” ~ Joseph Heller, Catch-22

                by 43north on Wed May 29, 2013 at 04:51:01 AM PDT

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      •  "Very extensive weapons training" (2+ / 0-)
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        You'd be surprised how much less they get than they do on TV.

        Which actually makes sense: they may never be involved in a gunfight.

        Anyone who can't figure out that leaving an infant and a toddler unattended is a bad idea won't benefit from training.

        Freedom isn't free. Patriots pay taxes.

        by Dogs are fuzzy on Mon May 27, 2013 at 12:14:09 PM PDT

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        •  And what is your response when it involves an (0+ / 0-)

          ex combat veteran of our armed forces? they aren't trained properly either? Seen quite a number of them pull the same shit or worse...

          Be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

          by teabaggerssuckbalz on Mon May 27, 2013 at 02:12:25 PM PDT

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          •  Such as this one: you can tell he had no training: (0+ / 0-)

            Or this one from over the weekend:

            EDEN, Texas — A man suspected in a West Texas shooting rampage that left one woman dead and five others wounded was a Marine who was wanted for questioning in a slaying in North Carolina, officials said Monday.
            http://www.daytondailynews.com/...
            The obligatory NRA/RKBA "this one doesn't matter comment form this stories comment section: "Does any one know how many people were shot, wounded or killed in Chicago over this extended weekend???? DDN you should print all the news not selective articles that align with you political position on guns... Most readers are smart enough to see right thru this kind of stuff. "

            Or how about this fine upstanding veteran?

            Alleged cop killer Matthew Stewart hangs self in jail cell
            http://www.sltrib.com/...

            Be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

            by teabaggerssuckbalz on Tue May 28, 2013 at 04:01:50 AM PDT

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  •  What a tragic list of terrible events with guns. (11+ / 0-)

    I always read through these events so I keep up with the feeling it gives me to try to do something about this senseless loss of life and the sorrow it generates.  I can't imagine what is like to compile such a list of events but thanks for doing this.

  •  Six degrees of separation: (26+ / 0-)

    One of my daughter's best friends - they have been friends since kindergarten - attends Hofstra University and knows the student who was killed.
    A darned shame what happened to this beautiful young woman. This should be a lesson to all of those advocating for everybody to be armed to take out the "bad guys." Note that she was shot and killed by a trained LEO.
    Btw, this was all around shameful conduct by the police... which is topic for another diary.

    RIP Andrea.

    Maya Angelou: "Without courage, we cannot practice any other virtue with consistency. We can't be kind, true, merciful, generous, or honest."

    by JoanMar on Fri May 24, 2013 at 08:34:48 PM PDT

  •  #52, a 5 yo is killed and "case closed"?! (13+ / 0-)

    You have exactly 10 seconds to change that look of disgusting pity into one of enormous respect!

    by Cartoon Peril on Fri May 24, 2013 at 08:47:58 PM PDT

    •  our state legislature (2+ / 0-)
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      here in North Carolina is working hard to pass a law that would allow concealed-carry guns on college campuses. So much for the "Guns, Alcohol, or Kids" rule (which I think would be an excellent idea) -- let's just combine all three on every college campus in the state! Because nobody in college has EVER had too much to drink, wanted to show off for his friends, or gotten mad over a bad grade or a mean girlfriend. How could adding guns to that mix possibly go wrong?

      "So keep fighting for freedom and justice, beloveds..." -- Molly Ivins

      by goheelsgodems on Sat May 25, 2013 at 03:48:11 PM PDT

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      •  Every story is a local story. (2+ / 0-)
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        So nobody ever thinks this stuff has happened before:

        2 Shot in Fraternity House at FSU, Student Ashley Cowie Dies

        A shooting incident at Florida State University’s recently constructed Greek Park has left one dead, one wounded and a third under arrest, KnightNews.com has learned.

        The FSU student who lost her life in the apparent accidental shooting, Ashley Cowie, was a member of Chi Omega sorority and a former homecoming queen of her high school, St. Country Day School near Jacksonville, according to the Florida Times-Union. She was 21.

        [...]

        According to an FSU press release, police were called to the Lambda Chi Alpha fraternity house at 1:16 a.m. Sunday to respond to an accidental shooting report. The fraternity house is located in Heritage Grove, a subdivision of FSU affiliated Greek housing off campus.

        [...]

        FSU police quickly identified the shooter as Evan Wilhelm, according to the release, posted by WCTV. Wilhelm, a member of the Lambda Chi Alpha fraternity, was in his fraternity house apartment allegedly showing off his new rifle accessories to his friends when the release stated it accidentally went off.

        That’s when Ashley Cowie, 21, was fatally shot in the chest and Keith Savino was struck in the wrist, according to the release. Savino’s injuries are not life-threatening.

        Oh, and while we're at it, Respect the Culture:
        The owner of the rifle, Wilhelm, 20, was not injured when the shots rang out. Even though the shooting was reported as accidental, Wilhelm was arrested early Sunday and booked into the Leon County Jail on manslaughter charges, the release stated.
        Yeah, they arrested the guy who blasted & killed a fellow student, even though the young man said it was an accident.

        I mean, come on! Don't we all make a mistake now and then?

        Anyway, that's part of why I compile these stories. So that people don't have to pretend every accidental shooting is an isolated freakshow that's never happened before.

        •  Thanks (1+ / 0-)
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          for the hard (and I am sure, heartbreaking) work.

        •  My Sophomore Year (0+ / 0-)

          I had a guy next door who had his roommate move out after coming home to find him cleaning his shotgun with only a little ambient light in the room one too many times.

          The shotgun cleaning neighbor had broken up with his long term girl friend and was seriously depressed.  I asked the guy who moved out why he wasn't around much in April only to find out the whole story which put my head next to the wall we shared each night for most of the year.

          But freedom! It's a cultural thing so we shouldn't judge.  

      •  Let us count the ways... (1+ / 0-)
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        (tallied as a tragic body count).

  •  Lotta Legs discovered Freedom this week.. (11+ / 0-)

    if by Freedom you mean sprouting holes, breaking bones and severing arteries. And I guess they can tell everyone how lucky their legs are to feel freedom now. Is this a great country or WHAT?

    Figures don't lie, but liars do figure-Mark Twain

    by OregonOak on Fri May 24, 2013 at 08:54:15 PM PDT

  •  asdf (8+ / 0-)

    So I read this diary & comments like I always do; tipped, rec'd, tweeted & FB'd as well. Then I clicked over to my Facebook page and found this right at the top:

    https://www.facebook.com/...

    Seems apropo.

    "I don't love writing, but I love having written" ~ Dorothy Parker // Visit my Handmade Gallery on Zibbet

    by jan4insight on Fri May 24, 2013 at 09:06:23 PM PDT

  •  England (3+ / 0-)

    It's harder to get guns in England--I assume that kept terrorism last week to a minimum.

    Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. John Kenneth Galbraith .

    by melvynny on Fri May 24, 2013 at 09:35:50 PM PDT

  •  And this just in... (9+ / 0-)

    Charleston, WV Roy Roger Pittman, 69, killed his 15-year-old adopted stepdaughter with a shotgun blast to the chest and shot his 18-year-old adopted stepson in the upper leg Friday evening after a family dispute...

    When police arrived at the scene and ordered Pittman to put his weapon down, he turned the 12-gauge shotgun on himself and "shot himself in the face."

    The shooter survived. I wonder if they'll let him have more guns. Or adopted children.

  •  Fear of flying (4+ / 0-)
    And sixty guns were found at airports nationwide in the past week...
  •  Tipped & rec'ed (5+ / 0-)

    nosotros no somos estúpidos

    by a2nite on Sat May 25, 2013 at 03:05:48 AM PDT

  •  and bridges to transport them! for all! (3+ / 0-)

    more trucks to more Walmarts! you can already buy shotguns on seems like every freeway exit

    sorry live in WA, and I'm pissed, crikey

  •  The NRA will target airports next. (4+ / 0-)

    After reading about all of the patriots trying to carry their guns on a plane I fully expect the NRA to start jabbering about freedom in the sky.

    The argument will be that responsible gun owners will need their guns to defeat terrorists in the sky.  And we'll hear how 9/11 wouldn't have happened if everybody on the planes were toting guns.

    Be ready for it.

  •  Absolute madness, set to get worse (0+ / 0-)

    With the enormous number of people wanting to feel the power of the gun, we're set for this being an endless series of tragicomic events.

    I was once a divine intervention away from getting shot in the stomach. I don't know which deity or good luck charm intervened, but something did.
    In the military, and I am instructing new recruits at the firing range. One of them experiences a malfunction, stands up, points the gun right at me, and keeps pulling the trigger. I manage to push the barrel up into the air and take the gun away from him.

    He should, of course, not have gotten up and turned around, the gun in hand. They were instructed, and well instructed, to leave the gun pointing towards the targets in case of a misfire, while raising their hand to indicate they needed assistance from an instructor.

    These men had received hours of instruction before we took them to the range. They had picked apart and reassembled their weapons, they had cleaned them, learned theory, gun safety and maintenance, and we had worked with them to ensure that they had beyond a beginner's familiarity with gun culture.

    Still, and in spite of the rigorous safety measures and precautions at the range, I suddenly had a recruit pointing the gun right at my stomach, while pulling the trigger, to demonstrate that the gun wasn't working as it should.

    It is absolute madness to let hundreds of millions of guns loose among people the way one has in the U.S., and we'll be reading a lot of very sad stories, about the consequences.

    "If you don't use your majorities, you lose your majorities."

    by SteinL on Sun May 26, 2013 at 08:17:00 AM PDT

    •  Thanks (2+ / 0-)
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      for that story.

      I have always held that if we just apply military rules to civilian gun ownership it would go a long way towards curbing gun violence in America. (Not to mention that all these guys with their "man card" guns who want to swagger around playing soldier, don't ever want to live by the same rules and restrictions real soldier live by. They want all the fantasy, but none of the responsibility.)

      Unfortunately, stories like yours, just demonstrate that even with the best training and intentions, people are the weakest link in any chain.

  •  In a country of 320 million, (1+ / 0-)
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    I don't find these stats surprising. Sad, but not surprising.  In the last year I could find statistics on (2010), there were approximately 196 deaths per week in the United States that were attributable to drunk driving.  As a public health matter, the statistics suggest we put more energy into preventing drunk driving -- if you want to play the statistics game.

    •  The only statistics game we need play is 26. (7+ / 0-)

      And December 14 is our timeline.

      Thats when we became aware of the oopsie game of responsible gun owners.

      1. Felony - loss of physical possession of owned firearm - regardless of outcome = loss of right of possession for any firearm for a period of years.

      2. Felony - accidental misfire of a firearm - regardless of outcome = loss of right of possession for any firearm for a period of years.

      Guns are fun, but for fucks sake watch what you are doing. For most gun owners these two felonies would never happen. So why in fucks name do gun owners all think they would lose some right if every gun owner had to come up to their level of possession.

      It's not a game, the bad boys took my gun that I had to prevent crime so I'm all innocent no matter where or how I was storing it. And the Haw Haw Haw that was close of the accidental misfire. These two things under control would make this column a comment.

      The tree of liberty does not need to be watered with oopsie blood. That will grow a tree but not a tree of liberty.

      Get the 'oopsie' out of 'keep and bear arms' see GunFAIL and Gun Crazy diaries weekly.

      by 88kathy on Mon May 27, 2013 at 10:28:40 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  That's absurd (0+ / 0-)

        Turning loss of physical possession of a firearm regardless of outcome into a felony is absurd. So if Person 2 held up Person 1 at gunpoint and forced Person 1 to give over their firearm, you would indict the person being held up (Person 1)? That's a quick trip down Alice's rabbit hole.

        •  If Person 1 was carrying their gun to prevent (3+ / 0-)

          Person 2 from robbing them, Plan A failed. Why is that my concern? Why do I now have to contend with a gun on the loose? That is the fault of Person 1 for having a foolish plan that resulted in the loss of possession. And Person 1 should not proceed directly to a gun store to try another foolish plan that results in a bad guy taking their dangerous toy. Person 1 should take a time out of a few years to think about fool proof ways to maintain possession.

          Obviously that would be an extreme case on the continuum of keep. Lets say from coffee table to gun safe. Coffee table 20 year loss and gun safe being 5 year loss.

          Now responsible gun owners have no skin in the game. Oopsie means go to the store and get another gun or more ammo. They don't even have to try to do better next time.

          Oopsie all is forgiven, that happens. 300 million stories in the naked responsible gun owners tree of liberty.

          Get the 'oopsie' out of 'keep and bear arms' see GunFAIL and Gun Crazy diaries weekly.

          by 88kathy on Mon May 27, 2013 at 11:39:05 AM PDT

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        •  PS a short story (1+ / 0-)
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          I have a ZIPPY some of the time I can use it to put out a house fire. Not only that my ZIPPY makes me feel pretty and slim and young. It is attractive itself and looks like a sparkly spinning gyroscope.  

          It is tricky to handle though and if a novice toys with it, it spins out of control and actually starts fires. People steal ZIPPYs however it is very expensive and time consuming to prevent ZIPPY theft. It is easy to forget where I put my ZIPPY. But I love my ZIPPY.

          I love my ZIPPY and want it to keep my house from burning down, I truly hope no one takes it from me, loses control of it and burns down your house.

          But that would be wrong because people shouldn't take things no matter where I leave them.

          Get the 'oopsie' out of 'keep and bear arms' see GunFAIL and Gun Crazy diaries weekly.

          by 88kathy on Mon May 27, 2013 at 12:20:54 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

        •  Try a different scenario (5+ / 0-)

          If, on the other hand, someone left a gun unattended in a car and it got stolen, I'd give a fair hearing to the idea of a reckless endangerment charge.

          Freedom isn't free. Patriots pay taxes.

          by Dogs are fuzzy on Mon May 27, 2013 at 12:23:19 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

    •  It's possible there's a good point here (4+ / 0-)

      It is indeed almost meaningless to find stupidity every week, but maybe the point of the diaries is that a country so awash in  stupidity can't afford to be awash in dangerous machinery?

      Freedom isn't free. Patriots pay taxes.

      by Dogs are fuzzy on Mon May 27, 2013 at 12:21:13 PM PDT

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    •  Maybe we should divide our statistics into (3+ / 0-)

      Sandy Hook units. Every 26 deaths is a Sandy Hook unit. How many Sandy Hook units would it take before you were surprised and wanted to stop the carnage?

      There are many gun safety regulations that could easily be put in place to make people come up to the normal standard most gun owners have. That would have an immediate effect in reduction of the number of Sandy Hook units.

      Statistics can count.

      Get the 'oopsie' out of 'keep and bear arms' see GunFAIL and Gun Crazy diaries weekly.

      by 88kathy on Mon May 27, 2013 at 12:41:51 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Do we want to play statitstics? (5+ / 0-)

      How many drunk driving deaths in the classroom last year? Or any year?

      If all we're doing is "playing the statistics game," I just won.

      I don't find these statistics surprising, either. What I find surprising is that given the fact that they're not surprising, there are still people who think it's a great idea to put a gun in every classroom in America, then sit back and collect the Freedom Dividend.

    •  In a country of 320 million, (1+ / 0-)
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      I don't find these stats surprising. Sad, but not surprising.  In the last year I could find statistics on (2010), there were approximately 196 deaths per week in the United States that were attributable to drunk driving.  As a public health matter, the statistics suggest we put more energy into preventing drunk driving -- if you want to play the statistics game.
       it is now projected that by mid 2015 gun deaths will surpass ALL auto accident deaths--if you want to play the statistics game.

      Be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

      by teabaggerssuckbalz on Tue May 28, 2013 at 04:14:40 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  I find that hard to believe (0+ / 0-)

        There are about 30,000 auto deaths per year, one-third being from drunk driving.  Are you really suggesting that in 2 years gun-related deaths in the U.S. will exceed 30,000 per year?

        •  Hard to believe? Quick Googles search on the (0+ / 0-)

          internets is all you have to do, why does every little detail get put in doubt by the NRA/RKBA to where anything and everything must be proven?

          Gun Deaths Will Exceed Traffic Fatalities By 2015, Study Says
          In three years, the number of deaths caused by guns in America is expected to exceed the number of traffic fatalities for the first time in modern U.S. history.

          The number of shooting deaths is expected to rise to 32,929 in 2015, according to a 10-year average based on Centers for Disease Control Data. By contrast, the number of traffic deaths is expected to continue its fall and decline to 32,036 thanks to advances in safety technology.

          http://autos.aol.com/...
          American Gun Deaths to Exceed Traffic Fatalities by 2015
          While motor-vehicle deaths dropped 22 percent from 2005 to 2010, gun fatalities are rising again after a low point in 2000, according to the Atlanta-based Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Shooting deaths in 2015 will probably rise to almost 33,000, and those related to autos will decline to about 32,000, based on the 10-year average trend.
          http://www.bloomberg.com/...
          Guns Kill More People Than Car Accidents In 14 US States
          Firearm-related deaths in the United States are expected to surpass the number of traffic fatalities by 2015, according to at least one recent study. In some states, that is already the reality.
          snip
          In an even more grisly revelation, gun suicides alone outnumbered traffic deaths in five states – Alaska, Washington, Oregon, Nevada and Utah.
          The last one is out of todays news:  http://www.ibtimes.com/...
             Read 'em and weep...

          Be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

          by teabaggerssuckbalz on Tue May 28, 2013 at 04:18:58 PM PDT

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        •  And yes, I am, already surpasses auto related (0+ / 0-)

          deaths in 14 states....

          Be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

          by teabaggerssuckbalz on Tue May 28, 2013 at 04:20:06 PM PDT

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  •  Brook Park, OH?!?!? (1+ / 0-)
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    I grew UP there!!

    And i'm not surprised this happened there.


    "So I'm at the wailing wall, standing there like a moron, with my harpoon." - Emo Philips

    by AlyoshaKaramazov on Mon May 27, 2013 at 09:40:10 AM PDT

  •  Recommended Diary Title Change (4+ / 0-)

    David, going forward I recommend the title of your gun madness update/diaries be titled Congress/GunFail.

    Again, it's totally obvious the 300 million plus guns in our nation are a threat to our public health and personal safety. it's also obvious it's wayyyy too late to limit the number of guns in private ownership, but it's not too late to impose stiff penalties for the irresponsible use/abuse of those guns.

    Safe to assume, however, that our NRA-cowed, do nothing congress will not impose any such penalties. this means that not only are we at risk daily of being shot dead by a crazed madman with easy access to guns and multiple-round clips, it means we're liable to be shot dead "accidentally" by some drunk moron sitting at his kitchen table cleaning his gun-- and thanks to our equally ignorant and careless congress, the guy will not go to jail for his crime.

    Thus: Congress/GunFail.

    "The 1% don't want SOLUTIONS; they've worked very hard the last four decades to get conditions the way they are now".

    by Superpole on Mon May 27, 2013 at 09:41:30 AM PDT

  •  admitting to attempted murder (2+ / 0-)
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    isn't bright.

    She told police she tried to shoot him


    "So I'm at the wailing wall, standing there like a moron, with my harpoon." - Emo Philips

    by AlyoshaKaramazov on Mon May 27, 2013 at 09:45:09 AM PDT

  •  The only thing that can stop the hostage (2+ / 0-)
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    TKO333, DefendOurConstitution

    of a bad guy with a gun is a "good" guy with a gun :(

    ....no longer in SF.... -9.00, -7.38

    by TFinSF on Mon May 27, 2013 at 09:51:54 AM PDT

  •  I agree (0+ / 0-)

    I'm all for not allowing complete idiots and convicted felons to own weapons.

  •  One time at a shooting range (4+ / 0-)

    I, for a brief moment, turned holding my gun to respond to my dad. He stopped me before i ended up aiming at someone. Now, my finger was nowhere near the trigger. no chance of an accident. But he rightfully chewed me out about that one.

    Because of things like this (his emphasis was always on safety) it always staggers me that there are people who seem to have absolutely no recognition that their acts could be dangerous.

    Who the hell cleans a loaded gun?! How is that not obviously an infinitely bad idea?

    "Trust not the words of a poet, as he is born to seduce. Yet for poetry to seize the heart, it must ring with the chimes of truth."

    by kamrom on Mon May 27, 2013 at 10:30:47 AM PDT

  •  What do we learn from all this? (1+ / 0-)
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    Americans like shooting themselves and others.  And why?  Because they are unlovely people.

  •  What's with everyone cleaning loaded weapons? (1+ / 0-)
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    Can't they take the damned bullets out first?

    Now, kids finding a loaded gun, I can see how that would happen (unfortunately). My Grandpa slept with a loaded Glock under his pillow. (It was in its leather holster thing, but kids can get that out in a jiffy.)

    And God said, "Let there be light"; and with a Big Bang, there was light. And God said "Ow! Ow My eyes!" and in a flash God separated light from darkness. "Whew! Now that's better. Now where was I. Oh yea . . ."

    by Pale Jenova on Mon May 27, 2013 at 11:05:36 AM PDT

  •  We, the People, are batshit crazy! (3+ / 0-)

    The power of the Occupy movement is that it ....realizes a fundamental truth about American politics… there is no way to vote against the interests of Goldman Sachs.

    by orson on Mon May 27, 2013 at 11:08:02 AM PDT

  •  Alcohol was involved (5+ / 0-)

    A good percentage of these brief reports mention alcohol, but the percent of alcohol involvement in accidental gun discharges is undoubtedly much higher.  That's true of accidental trauma in general, as people whose judgment and motor skills are not impaired don't tend to cause accidents, and alcohol is America's impairment of choice.  The responsible individuals in these reports may not have been all that bright to begin with, but it sure sounds like most of them must have needed some help with temporary brightness reduction to get them into these vignettes.

    So -- why isn't it a crime to handle a weapon while drunk?  Getting behind the wheel of a car while alcohol impaired is a crime.  Are loaded weapons safer than automobiles?  Why isn't that bastion of responsible gun ownership, the NRA, all over this crying need for legislation?

    The states must be abolished.

    by gtomkins on Mon May 27, 2013 at 11:08:05 AM PDT

  •  Equally troubling are the sentiments (7+ / 0-)

    expressed by the concealed-carry crowd (those in Kansas at least). Take a look at the case involving the teacher in Wichita, Kansas busted for carrying a concealed weapon into the school. More specifically, take a looksee at the comments posted by readers of that article.

    Notice how some in the concealed-carry crowd apparently look for ways to circumvent any restrictions placed on them. For instance, suggesting that a business's desire to ban concealed weapons on their premises can be ignored if the signage is not posted on  can be ignored if the signage is incorrect:

    Yes. If the school is not properly posted, then a person with a concealed carry license is not breaking the law.
     
    And this:
    Are their signs properly posted? A lot of buildings around Sedgwick County are posted but not posted properly. The entire graphic has to be between 4' and 6' off the ground. The graphic has to be within 12" of each public and non public entrance. If one entrance is not marked then the entire building is not marked.
    And check out this dandy, which essentially says Mr. Business owner, you're not going to tell me I can't pack my heat while I'm on your premises:
    I think the fact that they came up with a sign is stupid in the first place. It was a concession to liberals when the law was created that should have been a deal breaker and we should repeal that portion of the law as soon as we can. If you are legally carrying a firearm and are licensed to do so I do not see any difference between law abiding citizens rights to bear arms and off duty law enforcement officers right to bear arms.
    This talk of ignoring conceal-carry restrictions because the signage was maybe two inches higher than it should have been seems in complete defiance of the spirit and intent of the law. If you see a sign barring concealed weapons, the owner of the establishment is essentially informing you they don't want your frigging weapon on the premises. You have a right to carry and they have a right to say not here. Why would one want to not respect the wishes of the owner? Where is the sense of reason with these writers?

    I suspect the NRA probably had a hand in crafting the law, particularly the signage dimensions. Its credo is to frustrate the implementation of reasonable gun safety laws.

    Can I get a Grey Goose on the rocks over here?!

    by G Contractor on Mon May 27, 2013 at 12:08:34 PM PDT

  •  More concern is given on carrying a cooler that is (5+ / 0-)

    too large into a sporting even than is given carrying a gun, concealed or not into said events;  I just wonder how soon a big shooting may take place a some tourney situation.

  •  Hey what about this one??? (4+ / 0-)

    http://www.newstimes.com/...

    State police spokesman Lt. J. Paul Vance said the Ridgefield officer, who has not yet been identified, fired after Valluzzo refused to drop his weapon and pointed it toward the cop.
    "The officer was obviously shaken, as any human being would be," Ridgefield First Selectman Rudy Marconi said Sunday afternoon.
    Vance declined to say how many times Valluzzo was hit, but a source close to the investigation said several shots were fired during the fatal encounter.
    Ridgefield police were dispatched to the Ridgebury Road home about 5:15 p.m., after a woman living there called a friend in Florida and said her partner, subsequently identified as Valluzzo, was intoxicated, threatening her and waving a gun, according to the source. The friend then contacted Ridgefield police.

    Read more: http://www.newstimes.com/...

    The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy;the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness

    by CTMET on Mon May 27, 2013 at 01:03:35 PM PDT

  •  When are the destroyers of freedom going to stop (3+ / 0-)

    hurling themselves in the paths of these innocent bullets? We know you all do it just to keep trying to take away all my God-given rights!  STOP IT!

    /snark

    Then they came for me - and by that time there was nobody left to speak up.

    by DefendOurConstitution on Mon May 27, 2013 at 02:05:51 PM PDT

  •  Thank you, David. nt (2+ / 0-)
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    Dwell on the beauty of life. ~ Marcus Aurelius

    by Joy of Fishes on Mon May 27, 2013 at 04:28:23 PM PDT

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