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Ne's not up re-election but Senator Jon Tester (D. MT) had this to say about Edward Snowden:

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/...

"The information that they wrote about was just the fact that NSA was doing broad sweeps of foreign and domestic phone records, metadata. First of all, Snowden probably shouldn't have done what he did. But the fact of the matter is is I don't see how that compromises the security of this country whatsoever," Tester said.  "And quite frankly, it helps people like me become aware of a situation that I wasn't aware of before because I don't sit on that Intelligence Committee." - TPM, 6/12/13
Well said, Senator.  Hopefully come 2015, Tester will have this great civil libertarian Democrat, Brian Schweitzer, as his colleague in the Senate:

http://www.dailykos.com/...

He Is a Proud Civil Libertarian: Schweitzer signed into law a measure from the legislature objecting to the USA PATRIOT Act. He also won praise from the ACLU for rejecting the federal REAL ID program, which would've required states to share sensitive data with Washington for a national ID card program -- not surprisingly data companies like Digimarc spent $350,000 over six months to get Congress to back the program. Additionally, Schweitzer signed into law the state's first state-wide public defender program, ensuring that no one would be denied representation in the courts based on their ability to hire a lawyer. - Huffington Post, 4/26/13
And Schweitzer and Tester have proven to work very well together:

http://www.flatheadbeacon.com/...

In 2005, a freshly elected Gov. Schweitzer touted Montana’s ability to grow a diversity of crops and promised that he would not be a traditional politician. Schweitzer said, “I’ll give you a straight answer. I’m a hybrid. But I’m not a GMO.” Schweitzer has yet to indicate favor for labeling GMO food.

That year, the Schweitzer administration worked with then state Sen. Jon Tester on a bill establishing liability for any introduction of GMO wheat into Montana. In 2009, Schweitzer signed into law testing protocols for GMO crops that may drift from neighboring fields. But liability remains a thorny issue.

In Congress, Tester remains a vocal supporter of family farms and the local food movement. Last week Tester put forward an amendment to the 2013 Farm Bill directing the USDA to prioritize public and classical research for seed and animal breeding. It’s one of 100 amendments, which may receive a proper vote.- Flathead Beacon, 6/12/13

We need more Democrats like Tester and Schweitzer now more than ever.

Originally posted to pdc on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 02:00 PM PDT.

Also republished by The Democratic Wing of the Democratic Party and Montana Kossaks.

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  •  Well, only centrist pragmatists like Obama (3+ / 0-)
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    RFK Lives, Chi, SouthernLiberalinMD

    can be trusted with our votes.  Fringe leftist radicals like Tester may as well be Ralph Nader.

    What are you doing to fight the dangerous and counterproductive error of treating dirtbag terrorist criminals as though they were comic book supervillains? I can't believe we still have to argue this shit, let alone on Daily Kos.

    by happymisanthropy on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 02:07:16 PM PDT

  •  This is dated. (5+ / 0-)

    Snowden is now telling the Chinese how we have been hacking into their computers. This isn't about "protecting America" any longer. Snowden is a top-secret cleared analyst bent on telling all to our Totalitarian nemesis. Now we know why he headed to Hong Kong.

  •  Actually Snowden just did by showing the files (3+ / 0-)
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    citizenx, AnnetteK, gramofsam1

    to the Chinese just today.

    President Obama, January 9, 2012: "Change is hard, but it is possible. I've Seen it. I've Lived it."

    by Drdemocrat on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 02:16:55 PM PDT

    •  And that harms "national security" how? (1+ / 0-)
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      I don't see how hacking of foreign sites, including those of the Chinese government, constitutes "protecting" the U.S.  And considering the Chinese hacking attacks on the U.S., it seems unlikely that they didn't already know, so this is probably just an opportunity for the Chinese to spew some hypocritical propaganda protesting NSA's actions.

      I am become Man, the destroyer of worlds

      by tle on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 02:40:45 PM PDT

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      •  Doesn't matter; giving foreign governments (3+ / 0-)
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        classified info is criminal.  I mean, OK, Snowden was already a "criminal", but arguably one with good intent.  What is the good intent of telling the Chinese about our cyber intelligence apparatus?  That has absolutely nothing to do with protecting Americans' civil liberties.  If he's really doing that, then it seems he is indeed in "traitor" territory now.

        •  This is looking more like a defection... (2+ / 0-)
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          than someone seeking asylum.  

          I have to say, from the beginning, I thought that Hong Kong was a very odd place to seek the latter.

          Quoting Jeffrey Toobin's New Yorker post...

          Snowden fled to Hong Kong when he knew publication of his leaks was imminent. In his interview, he said he went there because “they have a spirited commitment to free speech and the right of political dissent.” This may be true, in some limited way, but the overriding fact is that Hong Kong is part of China, which is, as Snowden knows, a stalwart adversary of the United States in intelligence matters. (Evan Osnos has more on that.) Snowden is now at the mercy of the Chinese leaders who run Hong Kong. As a result, all of Snowden’s secrets may wind up in the hands of the Chinese government—which has no commitment at all to free speech or the right to political dissent. And that makes Snowden a hero?

          The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. -- John Kenneth Galbraith

          by richardak on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 04:26:27 PM PDT

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        •  If it doesn't matter, why say it? (0+ / 0-)

          Your first comment said that he "just did" (harm national security).  Bringing up the issue of criminality is a distraction, and calling him a traitor is just throwing gas on the fire.  

          In any case, I don't see that his actions are in any way treasonous.  "Traitor" is, IMO, more appropriate for people who expose secret agents working in countries that will murder them.

          Or sending a nation to war in the face of no real threat.

          I am become Man, the destroyer of worlds

          by tle on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 05:24:07 PM PDT

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    •  are you referring to journalists in Hong Kong? (0+ / 0-)

      This China angle always seemed damned silly to me. If he wanted to sell info to the Chinese, he certainly didn't need to announce it to the world. Why not do the old-fashioned and much safer thing and defect?

      Anyway, China pwns us in cyberwars, so I'm not sure they're all that interested in what he has to say. Russia sure would be, though.

      Defending the theft of our freedom by the government is not a legitimate difference of opinion on a political matter -- it is a deeply un-American attitude that deserves nothing but scorn and derision.--Dallasdoc

      by SouthernLiberalinMD on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 03:15:59 PM PDT

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  •  Others beat me to it... (2+ / 0-)
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    Drdemocrat, AnnetteK

    Snowden walked into treason today.

    He will fall hard.

  •  Wow, Montana I love you (2+ / 0-)
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    Mannie, greengemini

    how can you be so right wing and so clear and true about the Constitution, the rule of law, and all things small-d democratic? It's like you're caught in a time warp. Constitutional Republicans and Constitutional Conservative Democrats!! It's like seeing a dodo.

    Defending the theft of our freedom by the government is not a legitimate difference of opinion on a political matter -- it is a deeply un-American attitude that deserves nothing but scorn and derision.--Dallasdoc

    by SouthernLiberalinMD on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 03:13:46 PM PDT

  •  Tester and Schweitzer are blue dogs on a whole (1+ / 0-)
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    host of other issues, issues that many feel hit closer to home than NSA surveillance.  I like them, and could see myself supporting Schweitzer in a WH run (depending on who else was in the primary), but I realize that they are to the right of me on lots of things (gun control, for one).

    •  That's why DKos drives me crazy. People see (4+ / 0-)

      ONE thing they like about someone, and they start calling for them to run for President.

      Then, 5 years later, they'll be complaining how that person sold them out, because they didn't actually bother to really LOOK at the candidate.

      I'd like to start a new meme: "No means no" is a misnomer. It should be "Only 'Yes' means yes." Just because someone doesn't say "No" doesn't mean they've given consent. If she didn't say "Yes", there is no consent.

      by second gen on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 04:23:12 PM PDT

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      •  And what really drives me crazy is when people (2+ / 0-)
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        who label legit moderate Democrats Blue Dogs when they are NOT Blue Dogs.  Not Bernie Sanders?  BLUE DOG!  Not Jeff Merkley? BLUE DOG!  Not Elizabeth Warren? BLUE DOG! BLUE DOG! BLUE DOG!!!!!!  Why can't this community just call moderates, moderates?  Have we become like the Tea Party where the word "moderate" just sickens us so much?  Seriously.

        Funny Stuff at http://www.funnyordie.com/oresmas

        by poopdogcomedy on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 04:27:05 PM PDT

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        •  Yep. That bugs me too. (0+ / 0-)

          Or when they claim they won't vote for the Democrat because they're not progressive enough, so they throw away a vote on a 3rd party.

          My point above is that people (I wasn't saying you) like one thing, and they think that makes all the qualifications in the world for a candidacy. It's the opposite of a purist, but that seems to be what we get around here. The extremes. One issue voters who will vote for a person based on one clever interview or good vote, and purists that can't find anyone that's good enough.

          I'd like to start a new meme: "No means no" is a misnomer. It should be "Only 'Yes' means yes." Just because someone doesn't say "No" doesn't mean they've given consent. If she didn't say "Yes", there is no consent.

          by second gen on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 04:38:27 PM PDT

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        •  They're down to what, like 14 or so actual (0+ / 0-)

          blue dogs?  They got decimated in the last few cycles, used to be 50 or 60 of them.

    •  Wyden and Merkley (0+ / 0-)

      are better, but I'm not sure if they're the best.

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