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Rallies in Hong Kong took place today in defense of Snowden and to prevent his extradition.

It's been my opinion that a quick and easy way for China to embarrass American would be to grant asylum, but whether or not that happens remains to be seen. This seems like an unlikely scenario, however Hong Kong can separately provide asylum, and China cannot intervene. Whether any party agrees to asylum or extradition is, of course, speculation at this point.

According to Hong Kong law, if the U.S. was to request the city to surrender Snowden, Beijing could step in only if its defence or foreign affairs would be significantly affected by Hong Kong's actions. Beijing is not allowed to interfere with any asylum proceedings.


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"The biggest Western government -- the U.S government -- is his enemy. Now he can only count on us, the power of Hong Kong civil society and our legal system," Ip Lam Chong of in-media told protesters. "I see this incident as a stress test for Hong Kong society and its legal system."

Claudia Mo, a member of the Hong Kong legislature who addressed the protesters, said the city of Hong Kong "owes Snowden at least some response."

"The U.S is supposed to be the champion of democracy, but it's been conducting blanket surveillance on a global scale," she said. "If the guy at the top has access to all our lines of communication, how is... anyone ever going to start a revolution?"

It goes without saying that the average Chinese citizen (and many in more repressed countries) view the US as a beacon of freedom and liberty. When the Party or more authoritarian governments prevent certain actions or rights, they sometimes use the US as an example:
[The] idea of same-sex marriage [is] too advanced, not all western countries to allow same-sex marriages, even in United States, not every state has legalized gay marriage.
Therefore, should the US continue on this path of privacy intrusion and limitations of rights, we should all expect that more authoritarian governments will use this to crack down further on their own citizens.

Meanwhile ...

More than half of our Congress skipped out on classified briefings Thursday, because they wanted to start their breaks instead.

A recent briefing by senior intelligence officials on surveillance programs failed to attract even half of the Senate, showing the lack of enthusiasm in Congress for learning about classified security programs.

Many senators elected to leave Washington early Thursday afternoon instead of attending a briefing with James Clapper, the Director of National Intelligence, Keith Alexander, the head of the National Security Agency (NSA), and other officials.

In all fairness though .... their work us super hard, and how can we expect them to participate in a meeting conducted by the head of the NSA about their spying? Well, they might have to leave for home a couple hours later!

As a result, we should all expect a great deal of attention on this matter from our elected representatives.

Further Actions

Should anyone wish further involvement with rallies in support of Snowden, and more specifically to protect our 4th amendment, check in with Restore the Fourth:

On July 4th, we are planning to hold a series of large, nonviolent protests in cities across the country. You can look for one near you by clicking on the resources link above. The protests will be uniform in their message: that the government of the United States of America must adhere to its constitutionally dictated limits of power and respect the fourth ammendment and the privacy of its citizens.
Lastly, a worldwide petition calling on Obama's assurance that Snowden will be given due process is nearing 1 million signatories, and it's gaining votes quite rapidly.
To President Barack Obama:

We call on you to ensure that whistleblower Edward Snowden is treated fairly, humanely and given due process. The PRISM program is one of the greatest violations of privacy ever committed by a government. We demand that you terminate it immediately, and that Edward Snowden be recognized as a whistleblower acting in the public interest -- not as a dangerous criminal.
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  •  Now here's the REAL puzzler... (4+ / 0-)
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    jamesia, Mary Mike, Dianna, Lujane

    If Chinese Security Forces swarm in and violently break up these protests...  Promising swift Extradition to the US...

    What exactly is the US going to say about it?

    /snark

    I don't blame Christians. I blame Stupid. Which sadly is a much more popular religion these days.

    by detroitmechworks on Sat Jun 15, 2013 at 03:59:29 PM PDT

    •  Why would they do that? (4+ / 0-)

      snark, but seriously ...

      Public demonstrations in Hong Kong are common, with quite a few directed at government policy, some of which have been effective to get reversals of policy such as the recent case of reversing policy on loyalty oaths.

      And why would the Chinese government interfere in the Hong Kong legal process presuming the US will request extradition?

      It could be tied up in the HK courts for years, so what's not to like?

      400ppm : what about my daughter's future?

      by koNko on Sat Jun 15, 2013 at 07:28:06 PM PDT

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  •  Misleading headline (2+ / 0-)
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    johnny wurster, Bush Bites

    New York has 7 million people, the same as Hong Kong.

    If 500 people showed up to protest gay marriage, how would you like to see a headline that says "New York rallies to oppose gay marriage?"

    What you did is the same thing.

    Leave the purposeful disinformation to Fox News. We are better than that.

    •  The word "rallies" in the headline (4+ / 0-)

      is being used as a noun, but I could see how you might think otherwise.

      At any rate, I doubt too many people think every single person in Hong Kong was at any kind of rally, ever. Therefore, we can likely assume that when a rally is held in any city, only a portion of residents are actually at the rally.

      •  I took it as a noun (0+ / 0-)

        Usually headlines here are complete sentences, in which case only the verb form would make sense.

        500 people as reported by sources at the main rally is nothing that couldn't be arranged by local government (Beijing-allied) officials by snapping their fingers.

        No question though that many Chinese do approve the potential turncoat's actions.

        •  No, sean, you obviously did NOT take it (1+ / 0-)
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          CroneWit

          as a noun. Taken as a noun, the only logical meaning of the headline is that that were rallies in Hong Kong in support of Snowden - indisputably true, and not at all misleading.

          You took it as a verb, as in Hong Kong rallied in support of Snowden.

          You had the opportunity to graciously acknowledge the diarist's explanation of what she meant in her admittedly ambiguously constructed headline.

          Instead, you chose the weasel route. Good for you. "No, no, I read it exactly as you meant it, and you're still wrong, nanny, nanny, boo boo."

          WTFWJD? LOTE? I sincerely doubt that.

          by WisePiper on Sat Jun 15, 2013 at 05:23:39 PM PDT

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        •  The coverage by the Hong Kong paper -- (3+ / 0-)
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          koNko, Youffraita, 3rdOption

          the one that Snowden spoke to earlier -- gave a lot of quotes from people which made it clear that they were there because they wanted to show support for Snowden.  This was evident in the video coverage as well -- by how people spoke and what they said.

  •  Let him stay there, forever. (0+ / 0-)

    Tell China they can have him. But if he leaves, we grab him and take him back. Problem solved.

    What is so unnerving about the candidacy of Sarah Palin is the degree to which she represents—and her supporters celebrate—the joyful marriage of confidence and ignorance. SAM HARRIS

    by Cpqemp on Sat Jun 15, 2013 at 04:30:33 PM PDT

  •  He's Done Wonders For The Chinese Newspapers.... (2+ / 0-)
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    koNko, Bush Bites

    They are being pursued by the American press.  And...they are basking in all the headlines & the attention.  Who knew the best thing to happen in decades to Hong Kong/China would be Mr. Snowden.

    I'm good if he wants to stay there & not set foot on American soil ever again.  

  •  Worldwide support pouring in online (6+ / 0-)

    at the 'worldwide petition' you cited, at Avaaz.org.

    I clicked through to see what it's about, and read a little about the organization.  Then I decided to sign the petition and clicked back to that page.  My attention was caught by the scrolling list of signers; I noticed that, of the 5 names visible at any second, most were from countries other than the United States.  I decided to take a minute and count, to get an idea of how many Americans were signing.

    I watched, counting, until 40 names had scrolled by.  Of those, only four were Americans.  That means (is a very rough way, on a tiny sample) that for every American supporting Snowden on this petition, nine other people in countries around the world share those views.

    When I first entered this diary, there were under ten comments -- and at least two of them were mean-spirited comments that to the effect of: 'Good Riddance on Snowden' and 'Don't Worry, We'll Grab Him Sometime and Settle His Hash', along with an '(Implied) Commie Goons Did What Their Leaders Ordered'.

    There's a good reason why the worldwide concept of The Ugly American will not die.

    Thanks for the link to the WorldWide Petition.  It's a nice opportunity to let our brothers and sisters around the world know that not all Americans are Ugly.

    •  Bingo. (2+ / 0-)
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      3rdOption, CroneWit
      When I first entered this diary, there were under ten comments -- and at least two of them were mean-spirited comments that to the effect of: 'Good Riddance on Snowden' and 'Don't Worry, We'll Grab Him Sometime and Settle His Hash', along with an '(Implied) Commie Goons Did What Their Leaders Ordered'.

      There's a good reason why the worldwide concept of The Ugly American will not die.

      Irony takes a worse beating from Republicans than Wile E. Coyote does from Acme. --Tara the Antisocial Social Worker

      by Youffraita on Sun Jun 16, 2013 at 01:19:58 AM PDT

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  •  He's saying the US spies on China. (1+ / 0-)
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    Youffraita

    Why would the Chinese attack him for that?

    Especially since China's been in a pissing match with the US over who spies on whom for the past three years?

    Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if he's ratting out US spying on China as a down payment for asylum.

    •  heh...the U.S. is pissed off (0+ / 0-)

      b/c the rest of the world (not to mention almost every citizen here) has been exposed to the ugly truth that our government is going rogue and has been since Shrubby.

      Irony takes a worse beating from Republicans than Wile E. Coyote does from Acme. --Tara the Antisocial Social Worker

      by Youffraita on Sun Jun 16, 2013 at 01:23:05 AM PDT

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      •  Since Nixxon, actually (0+ / 0-)

        It just seemed worse under Shrubby because we hit a steeper part of the slope.

        If it's
        Not your body,
        Then it's
        Not your choice
        And it's
        None of your damn business!

        by TheOtherMaven on Sun Jun 16, 2013 at 08:41:56 AM PDT

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