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I'm not pulling for the NSA, far from it. But they need some good PR and I have an idea to offer.

There are reportedly 210 million phones on the Federal Do Not Call list and that list is certainly available to the NSA. And there must be well over 210 million junk calls daily to those Do Not Call numbers.

It wouldn't take much metadata to find the handful of companies violating the statute. If NSA put that bit of data together and turned it over to Justice Department for prosecution, they would be doing us a big favor and (somewhat) repair their image.

Thoughts anyone?

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  •  A fine use of metadata. LOL! (nt) (2+ / 0-)
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    sceptical observer, sewaneepat

    Stop the NRA and the NSA
    Repeal the Patriot Act and the 2nd Amendment

    by dream weaver on Thu Jul 04, 2013 at 02:54:36 PM PDT

  •  I think that there an ample (5+ / 0-)

    number of complaints about the junk calls getting to the DOJ the old fashion way. The junk calls just keep rolling in. I have a suspicion that the problem doesn't have much to do with data collection.

    I think that it isn't high on Mr. Holder's list of priorities.  

    •  Phone companies make vast amount of money (5+ / 0-)

      off of call centers and junk callers. They sell them lots of big connections, equipment, etc.

      The technology has existed for at least a decade to allow each and every home the ability to shut these calls out. Know why you can't?  Because your telephone provide won't allow it.

      1) They could stop allowing phone number "spoofing."  This allows a call center or boiler room to send a fake phone number or Caller ID (name) to your phone.  They purposely allow that.  They could stop it.

      2) Allow customers to block any calls coming from certain operations, regardless of permitting phone "spoofing."  They won't do that either.

      In conclusion dear friends, the phone company is in it for the money.  They make more from the call centers than you. So, tough bananas. At least the CEO gets a huge bonus and can give his pilots nice holiday gifts.

      Happy Fourth and God Bless America!

      "The law is meant to be my servant and not my master, still less my torturer and my murderer." -- James Baldwin. July 11, 1966.

      by YucatanMan on Thu Jul 04, 2013 at 05:03:25 PM PDT

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  •  I do believe I have just read an NSA diary (2+ / 2-)
    Recommended by:
    sewaneepat, sviscusi
    Hidden by:
    dream weaver, Richard Cranium

    that both the "suxx" and "roxx" factions can agree with 100%.

    John Roberts? Melville Fuller?? WTF is the difference???.

    by Walt starr on Thu Jul 04, 2013 at 03:07:59 PM PDT

    •  HOS Troll. (nt) (2+ / 0-)
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      corvo, LieparDestin

      Stop the NRA and the NSA
      Repeal the Patriot Act and the 2nd Amendment

      by dream weaver on Thu Jul 04, 2013 at 03:38:14 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  And his comment here demonstrates that how? (0+ / 0-)
      •  This from a guy who has never published a diary (0+ / 0-)

        And from a guy who has no clue how Illinois politics  works or why the vote on marriage equality in Illinois was blocked.

        John Roberts? Melville Fuller?? WTF is the difference???.

        by Walt starr on Thu Jul 04, 2013 at 04:09:45 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  ^^this from a guy (4+ / 0-)

          who lost his rating privileges . . .

          Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

          by corvo on Thu Jul 04, 2013 at 04:12:15 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

        •  And this from a guy posting bigoted trash (1+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          dream weaver

          Like this, who has no idea how colonialism and racism oppressed the Bolivian people.

          400ppm : what about my daughter's future?

          by koNko on Thu Jul 04, 2013 at 04:53:04 PM PDT

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          •  Google "James Meeks" (0+ / 0-)

            HE is an anti-LGBT Bigot.

            Educate yourself before you throw purgoratives around.

            John Roberts? Melville Fuller?? WTF is the difference???.

            by Walt starr on Thu Jul 04, 2013 at 05:02:01 PM PDT

            [ Parent ]

            •  So you both are? (0+ / 0-)

              400ppm : what about my daughter's future?

              by koNko on Thu Jul 04, 2013 at 06:21:05 PM PDT

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              •  Ridiculous assumption (0+ / 0-)

                I am pissed off that DEMOCRATS blocked a vote on the marriage equality bill.

                And I will support any Illinois Democrat running against any incumbent Illinois Democrat in a primary so long as they openly support marriage equality. I will return my support to the incumbent if that incumbent reveals who in the Democratic caucus blocked the vote.

                And at the top of my list right now is Michael Madigan. HE pisses me off so much that I refuse to vote for Lisa Madigan in any Democratic Primary because she has used his influence to obtain much of her political power.

                And she is also big on the list for governor. Also if Mark Kirk decides he won't seek re-election, she will definitely be going after that Senate seat. Ordinarily I would support her without a second thought, but if marriage equality is not passed before those primaries, my support goes to marriage equality supporting challengers top to bottom.

                This is big stakes politics in Illinois, and we don't play beanbag here. Donating money to candidates outside your district is big here. Look up Toni Preckwinkle. I do not live in Cook County, but I donated to her campaign and I went to Cook County to campaign for her.

                And on general principal, if James Meeks endorses a Democrat, I oppose that Democrat in the primary. I will donate no money to them in a GE, either. Fortunately, Meeks does not bother with any candidates who would be on my precinct ballot, so I am not forced to make that decision in a GE.

                In Illinois, the primaries are where the real politics happen. Hell, in Chicago the primaries are the only real elections as whoever wins the Democratic Party will win the GE and the GE is just for show for the most part.

                In the GE, you vote a straight line. I even go so far as to find out who the local judges, county officials,  and aldermen donate money to in order to make a more informed decision on those so-called "non-partisan" elections.

                John Roberts? Melville Fuller?? WTF is the difference???.

                by Walt starr on Thu Jul 04, 2013 at 07:27:36 PM PDT

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                •  asdf (0+ / 0-)
                  This is 100% due to African American preachers

                  And I am done supporting any issue they support in retaliation.

                  So like I said, 100% the fault of African American preachers, all in Chicago.

                  As far as I'm now concerned, I oppose anything the House Black Caucus proposes, and will contact my (suburban) State Rep and Senator to voice my opposition to anything the House Black Caucus chooses to put forward.

                  I will be contacting my Democratic State Rep and will urge her to oppose ANY legislation promoted by the Illinois House Black Caucus until marriage equality is passed.

                  I will be opposing ALL members of the Illinois House Black Caucus until marriage equality passes.

                  And I will HR ALL posts that apologize for the blatant bigotry of the Illinois House Black caucus.

                  And, as for Rep. Christian Mitchell and Rep Kenneth Dunkin, two African American sponsors of the Illinois Religious Freedom and Marriage Fairness Act, ...
                  So yes, even two members who put their names to the bill get nothing but disdain from me until it is made clear precisely which members were no votes.

                  Stop the NRA and the NSA
                  Repeal the Patriot Act and the 2nd Amendment

                  by dream weaver on Thu Jul 04, 2013 at 07:57:41 PM PDT

                  [ Parent ]

                  •  Precisely (0+ / 0-)

                    They are responsible. A few members of that caucus blocked the vote and nobody will reveal who the hell they are so we can get them out in a primary and get a real Democrat in who will support marriage equality. The entire Democratic Caucus is now ihinding the idnentites of those few members who had the pressure placed on them by Meeks in a few Chicago districts.

                    That is the reality of Chicago and Illinois politics. We don't play beanbag here.

                    There are plenty of African American candidates in those districts who will not bow down to the bigotry of people like James Meeks. Let them run and let them win.

                    John Roberts? Melville Fuller?? WTF is the difference???.

                    by Walt starr on Thu Jul 04, 2013 at 08:03:51 PM PDT

                    [ Parent ]

      •  650072 16114 n/t (0+ / 0-)

        John Roberts? Melville Fuller?? WTF is the difference???.

        by Walt starr on Thu Jul 04, 2013 at 04:17:04 PM PDT

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  •  I suspect that benevolent gestures (0+ / 0-)

    to improve their public image isn't in the charter.

    But if they'd come out with an affordable Dick Tracy watch, I'd  have one. They could listen all they want.

    "The human eye is a wonderful device. With a little effort, it can fail to see even the most glaring injustice." Richard K. Morgan

    by sceptical observer on Thu Jul 04, 2013 at 03:14:20 PM PDT

  •  From your lips to someone's listening ears. (0+ / 0-)

    You can't scare me, I'm sticking to the Union - Woody Guthrie

    by sewaneepat on Thu Jul 04, 2013 at 03:21:09 PM PDT

  •  NSA went the PR route already (3+ / 0-)
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    corvo, quetzal, koNko

    Up to 2001, they had been No Such Agency. They didn't talk about themselves. They stayed as secret as possible. Now, they do PR.

    The Agency has gone far in transforming itself from the "No Such Agency" to an agency with a policy of active engagement with the news media, an agency that provides active, substantive information. The Director recognizes that he heads a powerful and secretive agency in a country with a public that mistrusts power and secrecy. We stress that the Agency acts responsibly, and strictly complies with U.S. laws that protect the privacy of U.S. citizens. News media representatives were invited along with families of employees during last September's NSA Family day.

    Transition 2001 report

    Their PR efforts:
    1. They always say that their methods are legal and protect privacy.
    2. They once invited some reporters to Family Day.
  •  Cute, but not why a security agency exists. (2+ / 0-)
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    quetzal, dream weaver

    The real question is whether we need the NSA at all.

    FBI for domestic; CIA for international; that's already two too many.

    Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

    by corvo on Thu Jul 04, 2013 at 04:17:21 PM PDT

  •  That would be illegal (0+ / 0-)

    Unless the Executive Branch releases a finding classifying junk calls as domestic terrorism, in which case the FBI should handle it.

    Everyone knows the NSA doesn't spy on Americans.

    400ppm : what about my daughter's future?

    by koNko on Thu Jul 04, 2013 at 04:44:51 PM PDT

  •  Nah, screw the NSA. (0+ / 0-)

    Time to roll out the guillotines.

  •  Fck the NSA. criminals all of them. NT (0+ / 0-)

    "We need a revolution away from the plutocracy that runs Government."

    by hangingchad on Thu Jul 04, 2013 at 04:55:53 PM PDT

  •  This is nonsense. Is that the point? (0+ / 0-)

    The FTC already knows who all of the major phone spammer/scammers are, but fails to turn them over for prosecution. Maybe one or two of the most egregious, once in a while, apparently for PR purposes. I get calls from the same small set of lying companies over and over and over…I used to report them, but if nothing is going to happen, what good is it?

    Now the best I can do is to amuse myself by asking the callers politely if they know that they are working for a criminal company. I got an apology from somebody who apparently didn't know that once. I hope he quit. (We Buddhists have a teaching called Right Livelihood.) If they offer to take me off their company phone lists after I explain that we are on the Do Not Call list, I point out that not scrubbing their list against the FTC's DNC list is the crime right there.

    Ceterem censeo, gerrymandra delenda est

    by Mokurai on Thu Jul 04, 2013 at 05:57:09 PM PDT

  •  same with SPAM E-mail. (0+ / 0-)

    as the NSA collects this, they could send back one piece of
    SPAM Mail to each sender, as a thank you from the USG.

    it's also a good dry run for cyber warfare

  •  They don't need good PR (0+ / 0-)

    They need bad PR.

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