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Hi everyone. After a long hiatus I'm once again prepping election data for Dave's Redistricting App. Right now I'm wrapping up Arkansas with just two counties left to sort out (Garland & Phillips). I plan to do 2008 president and 2010 governor for Arkansas.

In any case, the reason for this diary is because I'm exploring the prospect of getting election data for Oregon on DRA. The problem with Oregon is that, aside from Multnomah County, it doesn't participate in the Census tabulation by voting precinct. So, the precinct results need to be translated into census blocks. That means I need both presidential results by precinct and precinct maps for each county.

So, in short, I want to see if anyone out there has either precinct results or precinct maps for the counties that I still need. I'm not sure yet whether I'll do 2008 or 2012 or both. To get to the point, here's what I still need.

2008 Results: Baker, Malheur, Wallowa, Wasco

2008 Maps: Baker, Gilliam, Grant, Klamath, Lake, Lincoln, Malheur, Morrow, Union, Wallowa, Wheeler, Yamhill

2012 Results: Baker, Crook, Grant, Harney, Lake, Lincoln, Linn, Malheur, Tillamook, Umatilla, Union, Wallowa, Wasco, Wheeler

2012 Maps: Baker, Crook, Gilliam, Grant, Jefferson, Lake, Lincoln, Linn, Malheur, Morrow, Union, Wallowa, Wheeler

James Allen has already been a great help to me with results and maps. If anyone has any of the above files for me, please send me a private message.


Originally posted to roguemapper on Fri Jul 05, 2013 at 11:50 PM PDT.

Also republished by PDX Metro, Daily Kos Oregon, and Koscadia.

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  •  What is a DRA? (1+ / 0-)
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    Had Enough Right Wing BS
  •  Welcome back! (0+ / 0-)

    Not sure if I can offer much assistance, though.

    Ok, so I read the polls.

    by andgarden on Sat Jul 06, 2013 at 07:28:45 AM PDT

    •  It's a shot in the dark (0+ / 0-)

      I realize few people have these files sitting around, and the one person that I know does has already sent me most of his Oregon stuff. But even one difficult county can hold things up for quite a while, so I thought I'd put this out there.

      More importantly, there's a chance that I may need to have someone actually go to a county clerk's office in person before all is said and done. I've done that myself with a few states, but Oregon is a continent too far!

      Anyway, that's getting way ahead of things. For now I just want to narrow down the list of county clerks that I'll need to contact. If I end up getting stuck with one or more of them, I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.

  •  I'm going through my Linn data and finding (1+ / 0-)
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    it's not complete. So I'm going to dig out all the paper stuff I've accumulated to get the results they sent me, which means I'll also have out my 2008 Umatilla precinct map, my Linn 2008 precinct map, and I think my Clackamas 2008 precinct maps are in there too.

    I'm going to need to check on Washington County maps. I have some but they might not be old enough.

    I don't think Curry or Yamhill county precincts changed much between 2008 and 2012, but I could be wrong.

    ...better the occasional faults of a government that lives in a spirit of charity, than the consistent omissions of a government frozen in the ice of its own indifference. -FDR, 1936

    by James Allen on Sat Jul 06, 2013 at 09:11:13 AM PDT

    •  That can work! (0+ / 0-)

      I sent you a message, but I'll put this here as well just in case it applies to anyone else.

      If you have hard copy precinct data for any of the counties I need, then if you'd be willing to mail it to me I can scan it into one pdf document (for any given county) and email you the file. I've made such arrangements with people for several counties in other states and I can certainly send back the hard copy as well if you want it.

      So far as physical maps, if you can take a clear digital photo and email it to me, then that's perfectly fine for my purposes. So long as I can make out the precinct lines well enough to assign the census blocks, that's all I need. A countywide photo and close ups of any city precincts should be more than sufficient.

      If anyone wants to make such arrangements with me, just message me for my contact info. Thanks!

    •  Yamhill & Curry (1+ / 0-)
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      James Allen

      Yamhill changed "quite a bit" after the 2010 census. I haven't yet been able to speak with the person in GIS who may have maps. I can order physical maps if I end up needing to.

      I doubt Curry has changed, but I haven't yet gotten someone on the phone to confirm that.

  •  For Arkansas how much harder would it be (1+ / 0-)
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    To get the lt gov, SOS, and land commissioner instead of gov? Gov is kind of useless that year because BeeBe won in a landslide and it's going to strongly understate the strength of already maxed out precincts relative to the state such as heavily black ones. If it's too much work then don't bother, but the average of those three races at roughly 48/52 is going to be so much more useful than 08 pres or 10 gov.

    •  Not much (1+ / 0-)
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      Stephen Wolf

      Aside from setting up a template to average the races properly, which I can adapt from my MA template, it would be quite easy. I haven't actually done any of the 2010 AR data yet because the tough part is the conversion table from election precincts to census voting districts. Once I have that complete, I can prep and transfer the data quite swiftly.

      I finally sorted out Phillips County last night. Once I get a precinct map from Garland County, hopefully this week, I can wrap up Arkansas.

      •  Cool, this is one state where i'd definitely (0+ / 0-)

        love to have downballot precinct numbers. When I gerrymander it based on whole counties I can get two districts that are D+8 compared to the state downballot, but I'm betting you can get at least D+10 with county splits if not better. West Virginia is the other state I'd most like to have downballot precinct numbers followed by Kentucky as those three more than any seem to see the widest pres/downballot disparity. I know you are planning on trying to complete pres numbers first though.

        How's New Jersey coming along?

        •  New Jersey (1+ / 0-)
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          I was ready to do a New Jersey fix last fall, but none of the counties wanted to deal with me in the run up to the election, and then Hurricane Sandy threw a huge wrench into things. The short of it is that I plan to pull out my New Jersey files again once I get done with Arkansas, and then see about finally getting it fixed.

          This is my guess as to the order of things.

          #1: Arkansas, Puerto Rico (2012 Governor)

          #2: Oregon, New Jersey fix

          #3: Rhode Island, Montana

          #4: Florida 'other' votes, missing California votes

          That would leave only Alaska, which I can't do unless the VTD maps are put on DRA. With VTD maps I can do it in a couple days.

          I have no idea what the timeline will be for any of it, except that I'll be sending Arkansas and Puerto Rico to Dave within a week or so.

  •  I'm fairly certain (2+ / 0-)
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    roguemapper, James Allen

    that should have the 2012 Columbia map, and has the 08/12 legal description for Morrow's five precincts (I'm fairly certain they didn't change between 2008 and 2012.).

    ME-01 (college) ID-01 (home) -9.85, -3.85

    by GoUBears on Mon Jul 08, 2013 at 04:04:59 PM PDT

    •  Thanks! (2+ / 0-)
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      GoUBears, James Allen

      I had 2012 Columbia but had accidentally not crossed it off my list. Also, I just confirmed that their maps didn't change after the 2010 census, so that covers 2008 as well.

      I'll have to see what I can figure out with the Morrow County legal description if I have trouble getting an actual map.

  •  Not related to Oregon, but (1+ / 0-)
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    Stephen Wolf

    I was wondering if you had any plans to fix Maine in DRA. The current two options for Maine are 1) state legislative districts with partisan data and 2) census blocks without partisan data. I was wondering if you could get a new shapefile that has every town separate, so that redistricting could be done with more precision. It shouldn't be too hard to find this shapefile, and town-by-town election data is easily accessible on the Maine SOS website. I'm essentially imagining a shapefile where every town has its own block, regardless of the town's population. This would be a huge help in my ongoing look at the political geography of Maine.

    (-8.38, -4.72), CT-02 (home), ME-01 (college) "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one." -Spock

    by ProudNewEnglander on Tue Jul 09, 2013 at 10:58:22 AM PDT

    •  Out of my control (0+ / 0-)

      The short answer is that I have no control over anything on DRA aside from supplying election data. You'll have to ask Dave about anything else. His email addy is at the site. Sorry I can't be of more help than that!

      For the record, the only errors that I'm aware of in the election files I've supplied are two precincts that got flipped in New Hampshire and two that weren't distributed properly in Oklahoma. I'll be sending fixes for those along with the Arkansas file (still waiting on Garland) and Puerto Rico (that file's done).

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