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Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) is pictured on Capitol Hill in Washington February 28, 2013. REUTERS/Jason Reed
Harry Reid told his caucus in a Thursday meeting that he "ate shit on nominees" during the Bush administration, allowing votes on some pretty awful nominees when he was leading the minority, instead of leading filibusters. He says he did it because he thought it was the right thing to do after Bush won re-election, and because of the bipartisan Gang of 14 agreement. And look where we're at today.

Reid reportedly also began that caucus meeting Thursday "by apologizing to his colleagues for cutting bipartisan deals to avert the nuclear option, including at the beginning of this year."

But the siren song of a deal is always there, and Reid needs to resist it. He needs to remember—and remind his caucus continually—that they've been down that road too many times already, and it doesn't work. He needs to fight any attempt in his caucus to splinter off into some "gang" that promises it will be different this time, really.

It's time for Reid to finally do this. It's time for him to force Republicans to either let the Senate function again, or lose their power to block the president's nominees. Tell him so.

Please sign our petition telling Harry Reid that he'd better not be bluffing this time. Go nuclear and implement real filibuster reform if Republicans do not immediately confirm all of the nominees he filed on July 11.

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  •  Enough delay already, we will only have a year (40+ / 0-)

    left without the filibuster, when it could have been 6. Get rid of it now Harry.

    Anyone still thinking that wanting to own a gun is normal? Wanting to own a gun is an immediate indicator that you should be the last person to have one.

    by pollbuster on Sat Jul 13, 2013 at 09:24:33 AM PDT

    •  Probably 3 years, even with Schweitzer not running (4+ / 0-)
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      in Montana the chances are strong of Democrats holding 51-53 seats in the senate.

      "They will not collect a ransom in exchange for not crashing the American economy. The full faith and credit of the United States of America is not a bargaining chip."

      by TofG on Sat Jul 13, 2013 at 10:09:41 AM PDT

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      •  Democrats have to hold the senate, and (7+ / 0-)

        we have to reassure the Democratic senators that if they vote for filibuster reform, we'll work our butts off to keep them in the majority.  Many of the Democrats are scared to death thinking they're in danger of losing control of the senate and having to live with this reform under the GOP.  They need bucking up.

        "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

        by SueDe on Sat Jul 13, 2013 at 10:19:20 AM PDT

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        •  Let's reward common sense & restore sanity (1+ / 0-)
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          Agree that we need to reward the senators who do the right thing.

          I actually know of no Democratic senators who would plan to routinely filibuster a raft of nominees under the next Republican president (whenever that happens).

          Presidential appointments - from both parties - deserve an up or down vote. Period.

          Come on, this is the MINIMUM reform we can hope for if we're to pull the Senate back from the brink of irrelevance.

          •  My additional comment on petition (1+ / 0-)
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            In addition to simple majority vote for executive branch positions, we need up or down confirmation votes for the HUGE backlog of judicial vacancies, for any Supreme Court vacancies to remedy the decades of right-wing court packing, and requiring a real, talking filibuster in the manner of Wendy Davis or Jimmy Stewart in order to obstruct the Senate to doing the people's business in general.

            There's no such thing as a free market!

            by Albanius on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 01:39:25 AM PDT

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    •  Are you high, or delusional? (0+ / 0-)

      Harry's Reed is going to reform neither Jack nor shit.

      He's a lapdog, or worse, spineless, and will never make such a move.

      Best bet is to replace him with someone with real stones.

      “Make it a rule of life never to regret and never to look back. Regret is an appalling waste of energy; you can't build on it; it's only for wallowing in.” — Katherine Mansfield

      by Simolean on Sat Jul 13, 2013 at 08:35:08 PM PDT

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  •  This is "Democrats should" (15+ / 0-)

    a form of bitter, dark humor that people engage in when the RIGHT THING IS SO CLEARLY in sight yet you know it will be done wrong again.

    DKos needs to have a gambling app so we can just wager instead of argue about the obvious.

  •  "ate" - past tense of eat (3+ / 0-)
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    Who's he kidding - he's been eating shit since Bush left office.  My guess is he'll continue to do do.  Hope I'm wrong, but it's the most likely outcome.

    The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. Bertrand Russell

    by accumbens on Sat Jul 13, 2013 at 09:27:45 AM PDT

  •  I expect very little of Harry Reid and... (15+ / 0-)

    I'm rarely disappointed.  

  •  DON'T BE A CAUCUS-TEASE, HARRY! n/m (3+ / 0-)

    THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN CONTROL PEOPLE IS TO LIE TO THEM. You can write that down in your book in great big letters. -- L. Ron Hubbard Technique 88

    by xenubarb on Sat Jul 13, 2013 at 09:33:33 AM PDT

  •  It should be titled (8+ / 0-)

    "Grow a Fucking Pair, and Pass Filibuster Reform, Hary."

  •  'If'? No more ifs. Just do it, now. (2+ / 0-)
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    FloridaSNMOM, ferg

    I dont think it deserves conditions or qualifiers anymore. So what 'if' they just go along with these 7 to placate Reid, and then immediately start up the nonstop filibustering all over again? Yet another opportunity wasted - maybe the final one.

    Sharks.... tornado...... SHARKNADO!!!

    by Fordmandalay on Sat Jul 13, 2013 at 09:35:49 AM PDT

  •  Hey, he has to WORK with those folks... (8+ / 0-)

    You know, nice catered lunches, long sessions of compromising, and the occasional complete surrender when needed for "National Security."

    Last thing he should do is hurt their fee-fees.


    I don't blame Christians. I blame Stupid. Which sadly is a much more popular religion these days.

    by detroitmechworks on Sat Jul 13, 2013 at 09:36:40 AM PDT

  •  it's always cute when the Dems talk all tough (8+ / 0-)

    I like the way they raise their little fist in the air.

    Of course, I'll believe it when I see it.  (shrug)

  •  I think it's Sen. Merkley who is running the (2+ / 0-)
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    interference.....refer all questions to him.

  •  Time to tinker (9+ / 0-)

    The filibuster is being exploited, misused and over-used. It must be amended like any rule that has lost its effectiveness. There is nothing sacred about the Senate's rules. They are like any other rule - subject to be judged on whether sufficient to achieve the desired ends.

    The other side of this subject is Mitch McConnell, a senator who has outlived HIS usefulness. He had one goal - to make sure Barak Obama was a one term president. He failed. Big time. He is in the way. Big time. He needs to disappear from the senate.

    Time to Ditch Mitch.

  •  Time for Harry to put up or shut up. (3+ / 0-)
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  •  Instead of lobbying Democrats (1+ / 0-)
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    Maybe Kossacks should launch a filthy, dirty, tasteless aggressive social media attack on Republican Senators, with the intention of getting them angry and inspiring them to be even greater dicks so they will be even more motivated to filibuster nominations.

    It doesn't have to be explicitly related to the filibuster.  Just create a poisonous atmosphere which makes any pretense of civility impossible.

    •  Harry caves on filibuster, Obama on Keystone XL (1+ / 0-)
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      and almost anything else the oil and gas and terrorism industrial complex want. It's a law of nature.

      "Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob." -- Franklin D. Roosevelt

      by Kombema on Sat Jul 13, 2013 at 10:39:52 AM PDT

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  •  "Git yer ice skates, git yer ice skates here!" (1+ / 0-)
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    Satan's new sales pitch in Hell, about the same time that Reid actually grows a spine, along with the rest of the democrats.

    What we call god is merely a living creature with superior technology & understanding. If their fragile egos demand prayer, they lose that superiority.

    by agnostic on Sat Jul 13, 2013 at 09:42:49 AM PDT

  •  ? (1+ / 0-)
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    The reality is our side is correct on most of the political issues. Our side has popular support. Our side plays by the political rules. The Republicans only obey the rules when it suits them while using what ever power they have to wreck the country.
    Why do the Dems give them the respect as if they were not what they obviously are ? I have been reading this blog since it started. It is always the same. The Republcans did this, did  that . PLease sign a petition to stop them or donate money to a Dem who will stop  them.  The Republcans never stop.  When Dems are elected they tend to roll over most of the time. Does anyone here have a clue as to how we can get out of this mess ? Please!

    •  Maybe a start is to stop blaming the Repubs. (3+ / 0-)
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      I've said before that blaming the Repubs for what they do is like blaming a wolf for being a predator.  You can't it's just what a wolf - or a Republican - is.  At this point, and for some time now, the blame lies with the Democrats.  This filibuster thing is just the most blatant example since they could have actually done something about it unilaterally and chose not to.  

      The Dems are beyond pathetic.  Indeed, if Reid and the rest do the right thing now, it will just highlight how ineffectual they have been and how much time, money and energy they've wasted.  In fact, it wouldn't surprise if that doesn't keep them from changes the rules.  It's such a simple thing to have done that it will make them look bad for not having done it long ago.  

      The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. Bertrand Russell

      by accumbens on Sat Jul 13, 2013 at 09:59:56 AM PDT

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  •  i am so tired (3+ / 0-)
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    of spineless harry reid and his tough talk and no action, remove him from leadership and get a person of courage and quality in charge, like senator warren for example.

  •  loffles (3+ / 0-)
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    Prepare for another 11th-hour "compromise" which Republicans will break within the week.

    "But this time we thought they really meant it!!!" Pathetic....

  •  Maybe Dan Choi needs to give him another ring. (1+ / 0-)
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  •  He may have eaten shit, (7+ / 0-)

    but it never seemed like he was being force-fed.

  •  Sometimes I wonder (3+ / 0-)

    if these filibuster reform memes are simply opportunities for Senators of both parties to call up K Street corporations to shake them down for more money (campaign contributions). And, of course, the public for small contributions. Must not forget the public.

    "Societies strain harder and harder to sustain the decadent opulence of the ruling class, even as it destroys the foundations of productivity and wealth." — Chris Hedges

    by Crider on Sat Jul 13, 2013 at 09:48:24 AM PDT

  •  The siren tease could be resisted if Harry... (5+ / 0-)

    ...would tie himself to the mast. And sometimes in the past we get the impression he has done so only to discover a few days later that he's managed to slip his bonds.

    DKos needs to alter our mission statement once again. Just as we added, in frustration, "and better" to the original "more Democrats" creed, we now need to make it "more  fighting Dems." In red-saturated Texas we've witnessed fighting Dems at work. They lost the battle. But they advanced the war. Sen. Reid could take a lesson from that.

    Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

    by Meteor Blades on Sat Jul 13, 2013 at 09:48:56 AM PDT

  •  Harry won't bluff -- (1+ / 0-)
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    rather, he'll fall back on the tried&true Dem position of trusting Frog McConnell's assurances that the repugs will keep their "word" to not "filibuster" "excessively".  O'course, this construct relies entirely on the definitions of "excessive", "filibuster", and "word"; so that as soon as the Senate is back in session again, it's back to business as usual --

    jwa13 in Colorado When Cicero had finished speaking, the people said "How well he spoke." When Demosthenes had finished speaking, the people said "Let us march."

    by jwa13 on Sat Jul 13, 2013 at 09:49:04 AM PDT

  •  Wake me when Ds (1+ / 0-)
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    start behaving like ds.

  •  Perhaps he knows the risks in the end... (0+ / 0-)

    outweigh the benefits, and therefore treads carefully.

    For the gung ho, just consider what this may mean if used in the opposite direction concerning important causes you care about.

    It's not like the Senate is a democratic institution to begin with.

    I'm glad not to be in his shoes.

    •  The GOP will not hesitate, for a single moment, (8+ / 0-)

      to change the rules in their favor if they get into the majority.  They have proven, time and time again, that they have not a single shred of honor among them.  Just because Reid preserves the rules out of a sense of collegiality, it doesn't follow that the GOP will do the same.  The old Senate, where members were friends outside of the chamber, and they helped one another, is gone like a distant dream.  Since the time of Gingrich, anything goes among the GOP in Congress.  And with a changed environment, the old fashioned rules mean nothing.

      Never in history has so much money been spent to resist equality; the gross sums of money being spent to take us backwards is lewd, is pornographic is blatant and is arrogant. --Reverend Dr. William Barber, 2012

      by SottoVoce on Sat Jul 13, 2013 at 10:16:10 AM PDT

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      •  I have read little with which I have agreed more (1+ / 0-)
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        You have made the key point.

        "There is no room for injustice anywhere in the American mansion." Lyndon Johnson

        by pkgoode on Sat Jul 13, 2013 at 10:23:11 AM PDT

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      •  Then why didn't they previously? (0+ / 0-)

        It's not like they have not had the opportunity themselves.

        Yeah, I know, they are evil.

        Why don't we just get it over and exclude them from engaging at all?

        Once more, the Senate is not a democratic institution to begin with.

        And it is not only the Republicans that have helped create the climate where each side sees the other as malicious.

        Obviously, the Republican strategy is short-sighted and abusive, but changing the dynamic of the Senate could have consequences for the protection of the minority, which is part of the foundation of the Senate in the first place.

        That said, there is a reason why Reid hesitates. Perhaps he realizes that this may be Pandora's Box.  

        •  I didn't day "they are evil." (0+ / 0-)

          But they have not, in recent years, behaved honestly, or shown a shred of respect for the once proud institution of the Senate.  Members are segregated by party as never before in recent history.  Legislation, what little has passed during Obama's tenure, has mostly passed without a single GOP vote.  GOP Senators have refused to even consider voting for nominees they have heretofore had no objection to.  GOP leadership has demanded concession after concession, and the when they get what they requested, voted no anyway.  They are trying to change the law of the land (CFPB and NLRB) not through legislation but by filibustering agency members or heads.  They let legislation that profoundly affects the whecountry languish, just to poke a stick on Obama's eye.  They have overwhelmingly signed pledges that they respect more than their duty to their constituents.  They have continuously proven that they cannot be trusted to honor their promises, especially out of some kind of "respect" for the institution. They are not your father's senate, and the old rules of behavior are no indication of the present group of senators.

          Never in history has so much money been spent to resist equality; the gross sums of money being spent to take us backwards is lewd, is pornographic is blatant and is arrogant. --Reverend Dr. William Barber, 2012

          by SottoVoce on Sat Jul 13, 2013 at 11:34:52 AM PDT

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          •  It's a two way street where the game is played (0+ / 0-)

            You are right, you only said they have no honor. Others are far less kind.

            One side will always blame the other for woes.

            One side will always abuse the power they possess.

            If this happens, one day people may rue the event, and this is perhaps why Reid treads lightly to date.

            I will say again that the Senate was designed to protect minority rights, and when that is gone then tyranny of the majority can result.

            •  But (1+ / 0-)
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              don't we have tyranny of the minority right now?

            •  Disagree (1+ / 0-)
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              The minority has more rights than the elected majority, as long as the minority continues to abuse the rights they have.  Changing the rules has not been necessary on recent years because both sides have understood that their primary role was to pass legislation and vote on nominations in their advise and consent role.  McConnell announced from day 1 that the GOP's role had changed.  It was to make Obama a 1 term president.  Period.  They failed at that, so the next best thing is to stop anything he wants from happening.  That they are allowed to do that shows that they are abusing their role.  I can't buy into your both-sides-do-it argument.  This level of obstruction is unprecedented in modern times, and only one side is doing it.

              Never in history has so much money been spent to resist equality; the gross sums of money being spent to take us backwards is lewd, is pornographic is blatant and is arrogant. --Reverend Dr. William Barber, 2012

              by SottoVoce on Sat Jul 13, 2013 at 01:12:12 PM PDT

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              •  You don't have to buy it... (0+ / 0-)

                but I don't buy that only one side is always responsible.

                Yes, Republicans are abusing the process, but the consequences of the change is what you seem not to address.

                When Republicans hold the power and seek to do something unjust, what will Democrats do when majority rule determines everything?

                It's odd, to me, that so many Democrats think that they don't have a role in the state of affairs. When Democrats hang out, the animus many hold for other groups is no less than those others. One need only read the content and comments here to see this, the meme that Democratic equals good faith and others act for malicious purpose.

                •  My original point is about the consequences (0+ / 0-)

                  Of the change.  And what I tried to say was that even if we are polite and make no change in the rules, there is nothing holding the GOP back from making the change when, if, they return to power.  If their current behavior is any guide, they'll do just what they decide they need to do.

                  Also, the way democrats talk among themselves (as I'm sure republicans do) is not the same as the way they act when they do their work in government.  I don't see democrats putting roadblocks up to suppress voting by republicans; I don't see them making false (uncontested) claims on their own "news" network day after day; I don't see them voting 37 times to strike down a law that was duly passed, signed and declared Constitutional by the Supreme Court; I don't see them rushing to pass cookie cutter industry-written laws in secret, nighttime sessions; I don't see them cutting food for the hungry, while giving big oil companies huge tax breaks; I don't see them denying science so they can refuse to consider any action that would mitigate the horrors of climate change, in order to protect the profits of already hugely wealthy donors to their campaigns.  I see republicans doing all these things.  

                  Never in history has so much money been spent to resist equality; the gross sums of money being spent to take us backwards is lewd, is pornographic is blatant and is arrogant. --Reverend Dr. William Barber, 2012

                  by SottoVoce on Sat Jul 13, 2013 at 04:29:28 PM PDT

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                •  What will the Democrats do (0+ / 0-)

                  What will Democrats do when they are the minority and majority rule determines everything? They will do the same thing they are doing right now. They will twiddle their thumbs and complain about eating Republican shit.

                  It's hard to imagine how the Senate could be worse. I guess they could be beating each other senseless with canes.

        •  They didn't have to. (0+ / 0-)

          The got nearly all they ever wanted from the Dem minority who rarely even threatened filibusters, let alone followed through with any.

          "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

          by bryduck on Sat Jul 13, 2013 at 12:40:21 PM PDT

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    •  And? Mcconnell's on record as stating that (1+ / 0-)
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      the filibuster will go by the board the day that he becomes Majority Leader.

      He'll end it whether or not Reid does. So your "B-b-b-but what will they do if we set a precedent??" argument fails, because they don't need a precedent to be utter jerkwads.

      "Violence never requires translation, but it often causes deafness." - Bareesh the Hutt.

      by Australian2 on Sat Jul 13, 2013 at 07:44:54 PM PDT

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  •  Washington Politics (4+ / 0-)
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    these days reminds me of the BS my son went through in elementary school. "Really, I'll be your friend, I promise!"
    Next day.... same kid beat him up, or took his toy, or joined up with another group of 'friends' to call him names.
    Next day "Really, I'll be your friend now, I promise, I won't do that again."

    It was a constant battle to get him to see it because he wanted friends SO badly. It wasn't until we removed him from that environment to where we could better supervise his interactions and point out the discrepancies on the spot that he really began making friends.

    He however is autistic and had a very hard time understanding social situations. He was also a child. And he eventually learned from it and discovered what friendship means and how to stand up for himself. What's Washington Democrats' excuse?

    "Madness! Total and complete madness! This never would've happened if the humans hadn't started fighting one another!" Londo Mollari

    by FloridaSNMOM on Sat Jul 13, 2013 at 09:53:17 AM PDT

  •  Harry ISN'T bluffing? People from Missouri, Cal., (2+ / 0-)
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    NY, Pa., Florida... will have to be shown. And if he was so self-sacrificing about his dining habits 2005-2008, why not convince his weak-kneed caucus to include judgeships in filibuster reform?

    "They will not collect a ransom in exchange for not crashing the American economy. The full faith and credit of the United States of America is not a bargaining chip."

    by TofG on Sat Jul 13, 2013 at 09:54:50 AM PDT

  •  Putting faith in Harry Reid is a fools errand (1+ / 0-)
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    that I learned years ago.  

    The tent got so big it now stands for nothing.

    by Beelzebud on Sat Jul 13, 2013 at 09:57:49 AM PDT

  •  I have a dumb question. (0+ / 0-)

    So, has our social status within the Party changed?

    I mean, a couple of years ago, punching hippies was pretty much the definition of Democratic politics.  And "the netroots" was very much part of the punchees.  You just could not go wrong in Establishment Dem circles trashing us.

    Has that started to change?  Does anyone know?  Because it seems to me that a petition signed ten thousand people you hate and disdain . . .

  •  As much as I detested John Bolton... (1+ / 0-)
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    ...I believe Dubya had the right to name the assholes he desired in his Executive circle.

    It's been a neat trick for McConnell to get the MSM to report that proposing that nominations of Executive Office nominees be subject only to simple majority is "the Nuclear Option." That is not "the Nuclear Option" that Bill Frist threatened, but the MSM seldom lets facts trump GOP talking points.

    When you are right you cannot be too radical; when you are wrong, you cannot be too conservative. --Martin Luther King Jr.

    by Egalitare on Sat Jul 13, 2013 at 10:01:43 AM PDT

    •  The right to name the assholes of your choice (0+ / 0-)

      to Executive Branch positions is not unlimited. However, until recently, the strong tradition of the Senate was to only hold up nominees with specific, quantifiable concerns about them personally (e.g., Clarence Thomas with the Anita Hill accusations, etc. etc.), not just "I've got a beef with the President" as an excuse.

      That tradition is what the GOP has tossed out the window, in their haste to wreck the (marginal) functionality of the government by obstructing left, right and center. In the case - for instance - of Richard Cordray, they even admitted up front that they've got zero concern about him specifically. In a previous age, that would fetch a 98-0 confirmation vote. But today, because they want his office unfilled by anyone, he gets filibustered.

      It's a hairs'-breadth shy of treason, is what it is.

      "Violence never requires translation, but it often causes deafness." - Bareesh the Hutt.

      by Australian2 on Sat Jul 13, 2013 at 07:51:55 PM PDT

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  •  Suppose that the worst happens... (7+ / 0-)

    ...and the Republicans get a majority in the Senate. It's not going to be because their base voted for Bob Dole clones -- the new guys will all be Ted Cruz fire eaters. You think they give a damn about Senate traditions?

    A Republican majority will end the filibuster across the board as a first item of business because all they care about is implementing their agenda, period.

    Reid has nothing to lose and everything to gain by acting now.

    "There is no room for injustice anywhere in the American mansion." Lyndon Johnson

    by pkgoode on Sat Jul 13, 2013 at 10:05:33 AM PDT

  •  What's sad isn't that Harry Reid (0+ / 0-)

    "ate shit", it's that WE are the ones eating the shit, year after year.  I think, like all bullies, the Republicans will scream and cry and whine and make threats.  But they're so unaccustomed to being stood up to that they'll be in a complete state of shock.  

    Never in history has so much money been spent to resist equality; the gross sums of money being spent to take us backwards is lewd, is pornographic is blatant and is arrogant. --Reverend Dr. William Barber, 2012

    by SottoVoce on Sat Jul 13, 2013 at 10:12:21 AM PDT

  •  Filiabuster (0+ / 0-)

    Harry's weak and won't do anything other than do another handshake.

  •  Harry doesn't need... (2+ / 0-)
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    Stude Dude, Zinman reform the filibuster. He needs to step down and let someone else do it. It's been what, six years since he took on the mantle of Majority Leader, and he still hasn't figured out that the Republicans have no interest in participating in the democratic process in good faith. Not that McConnell has any real control over his own people. It would just be nice to see someone in the leadership position who actually has some understanding of the modern Republican party and stops trying to treat them like it is still 1970 playing Charlie Brown, Lucy and the football over and over and over.

  •  Well can't wait for Repub noms rammed through. (0+ / 0-)

    The filibuster is always a villain when used against and a champion (see Texas and the draft for governor after the filibuster) when used for.

    The first rule of government should be "Do no harm." The urge to act can frustrate the desire to help.

    by Common Cents on Sat Jul 13, 2013 at 10:28:55 AM PDT

  •  This is a Kabuki Wrestling Match: (1+ / 0-)
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    What Reid is proposing by "Filibuster Reform" - even if he follows through, will only apply to a group of office appointments.

    It will not apply to legislation.

    It will not apply to SC nominees.

    In other words, it's an act - it's not really reform at all.  It's about as much reform as the "Financial Reform" which was passed, and which, has done nothing to reign in the Wall Street Predators (as it was never intended to do).

    As for Republican obstructionism:

    Where was it for Jack Lew?  Geithner?  Holder?  Arne Duncan?  Anti 99% Free Trade Job Off-shoring?  Patriot Act?  160 Federal District Court Judicial appointments?  37 Court of Appeals Judicial Appointments?  2 Supreme Court Judicial Appointments?

    In total, including Judiciary appointments, Obama has had confirmed 1,180 of his nominations.

    This is nothing more than another impotent (D) vs (R) wrestling match to keep the respective bases fired up over minor elements, while the bipartisan advancement of the 1% Predator's interests continues unabated.

    It works for the (D) flavor and it works for the (R) flavor.

    Waking Up Yet?

    The excuses for Obama's behavior have long since passed the point of predictability neccessary to qualify as an absurd production of Kabuki Theater.

    by Johnathan Ivan on Sat Jul 13, 2013 at 10:57:02 AM PDT

  •  this is Lucy and the football at this point (0+ / 0-)

    I'll believe it when I see it.  until then I'm not getting my hopes up

    Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D.
    Drop by The Grieving Room on Monday nights for support in dealing with grief.

    by TrueBlueMajority on Sat Jul 13, 2013 at 11:04:04 AM PDT

  •  Fools errand? (0+ / 0-)

    Only a fool would try to bluff their way past crazies like the Snate GOP, but then again, ...

    My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right.—Carl Schurz
    "Shared sacrifice!" said the spider to the fly.—Me

    by KingBolete on Sat Jul 13, 2013 at 11:22:08 AM PDT

  •  "Spineless" Harry Reid (0+ / 0-)

    Once again threatening to bring a banana to the knife fight.

    "Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous Communist plot we have ever had to face?" - General Jack D. Ripper

    by wilder5121 on Sat Jul 13, 2013 at 12:58:41 PM PDT

  •  I get depressed... (0+ / 0-)

    When I think of all that could've been achieved since '08 had Harry Reid reformed the filibuster then. Medicare for all? Infrastructure investments? Climate change legislation? Who knows what could've happened.

    But the fact is that reform needs to happen now or I may find myself donating to a primary challenger in Harry's next election.

    Filibuster? I hardly know her!

    by grich01 on Sat Jul 13, 2013 at 01:05:36 PM PDT

  •  On petitions (0+ / 0-)

    Daily KOS, why does every article have a petition associated?  They do very little good because we've all signed this one before, and Harry did whatever he felt like or was paid to do anyway.

    Maybe they're used so much that they don't mean anything except a way to build a database of email addresses.  Well you have my email address already.

    It just gets tiring.  Politicians on both sides pretty much ignore petitions.

  •  Enough already! (2+ / 0-)
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    post rational, krm1255

    I'm not signing any more petitions because Reid doesn't care how many petitions there are, how many people sign them, or who signs them. It's not about petitions any longer and hasn't been for some time. It's whether or not Reid intends to take action to deal with Republican obstructionism or not. Now that the "gentleman's agreement" with McConnell failed (gee, who saw that coming?), either do something or STFU.

  •  This is the last chance for Reid, and he knows (0+ / 0-)

    it - or should. If he fails to deliver some meaningful filibuster reform, he'll face a revolt within his caucus, a solid majority of whom want reform.

    "Violence never requires translation, but it often causes deafness." - Bareesh the Hutt.

    by Australian2 on Sat Jul 13, 2013 at 06:48:57 PM PDT

  •  Someone should replace Reid with Grayson. (1+ / 0-)
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  •  You can do eeeeeeet! nt (0+ / 0-)

    "History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme." - Mark Twain

    by SoonerG on Sun Jul 14, 2013 at 11:09:06 AM PDT

  •  Enough One Way Bi-partisenship (0+ / 0-)

    Senator Reid, go nuclear on the filibuster with presidential appointees.  Enough with this one way bi-partisanship.

    The Republicans don't comprehend the word bi-partisanship let alone doing anything for the benefit of the nation.

    Stand tall and push that bigot McConnell and his KKK followers back to Kentucky.

  •  The problem with the current filibuster is twofold (1+ / 0-)
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    First, a Senator can put a hold on any action in the Senate, then take a vacation.

    If a Senator feels so strong on a position as to stay the hand of the Senate, and so stay the hand of the Congress and the entire Federal Legislative branch, he or she should stand and explain their reasoning and try to sway their colleagues on the merits of their very strongly held position. NOT go to an ALEC conference in Palm Springs.

    Second, in the current Congress, the Senate is not being stayed by the minority, but by a minority of a minority.

    The extremists in the Republican party are using arguments that are illogical, fallacious, imaginary and irreverent to stay progress on real, concrete, important changes that need to be made in our government. They make these ridiculous claims for their opposition to legislation, yet won't stand on the floor of the Senate and try to sway the opinion of their colleagues to their position through debate.

    While I wouldn't want the new option to end a filibuster to be a majority vote, I would like a filibuster to be a a put up or shut up action where the opposing Senator has to actually articulate a real position with real alternative solutions on the floor of the chamber. Not a holding motion that can be done basically in secret with no repercussions for misuse.

    In a world of the blind, the one eyed man is a pariah. Ask Galileo. Ask Darwin.

    by OKParrothead on Sun Jul 14, 2013 at 12:03:14 PM PDT

  •  It's about friggin' time. (0+ / 0-)

    This was what I commented to Mr. Reid.

    "I am SO tired of democrats with zero spine, whom no one believes will EVER challenge these brain dead, malevolent republicans on ANYTHING.  Any group that actually does stand up for the people would have their support - that could be the democrats - though if they don't step up, it could also be another group.  

    Then again, there's the school of thought that says you guys are the patsies - the ones who are supposed to lay down and fail so that it just looks like you are opposition, and then take the payoff that's handed you under the table.  I won't tell you which I believe, but I assure you, this view gains more credence every time you fail in front of this criminally incompetent GOP.  You think about that."

    Don't know if it will do any good, but maybe if he realizes that nobody believes he could be THAT incompetent by accident, he'll know the game is up.

  •  The Right Thing (0+ / 0-)

    ... versus the Right-wing Thing!

    it's simple, really:  there is no right way to do the wrong thing.

    The GOP/Republicans/Tea Party and the rest of those crazy-ass politicians cannot do anything unless it's wrong; wrong for America.  The saying, in this case, is true and accurate:  They Love America, but Hate Americans!

    Anything the Right-wingers do is guaranteed to hurt the public, as in:

    - Taking away our Civil Rights, one at a time;
    - Holding back the economy - see the so-called sequester - until it hurts Americans and even our nations defense;
    - Completely ignoring the separation of church and state, as in making the USA a "Christian nation";
    There are so many more items in this kind of list, but there is only so much time to type them all, and at some point, people simply lose interest in reading about the amazing calumny and obstructionism of the Right Wing-nuts.

    [Now, I know that I have given the paid comment area lurkers a reason to spread more of their GOP road apples; restrain yourselves ... your rights will be taken away soon enough!]

  •  As to Mister Reid. . . (0+ / 0-)

    I have come to expect that he will do nothing, and I have seldom been disappointed.  He needs to take a page from the Republican strategy book, and make McConnell face his own obstructionists.  Make HIM do something, force HIS hand so that America will see the "nothingness" that he encompasses.  Mitch has no control over his own caucus, much like Boehner.  Drop the ball on him, or stand aside, Harry.  You have no future unless you grasp the present and show us you deserve it.  This is where your strategic skills come into play.

  •  Harry Reid Ate Shit On Bush Nominees? Well Harry, (0+ / 0-)

    it's time for Republicans to eat shit on Democratic nominees. I don't care if Republicans don't like the nominees President Obama put forward - these nominees need to be approved - NOW!! Take a vote, and if Republicans resort to the filibuster game, change the rules to simple majority vote, and push all of the President's nominees through. Does Reid really think if the Republicans take control of the Senate they wouldn't change the rules if need be to thwart Democrats filibustering? The Republicans cheat to get what they want - of course they will! Democrats need to do the same. Stop being so spineless. The Senate will stay in Democratic hands in 2014, IF the Democratic base sees some meaningful action. GET TO IT HARRY.

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