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Seems that most Americans don't share Speaker John Boehner's definition of a successful Congress. No, instead they're pretty much done with repeal.
A majority of adults don’t want to repeal the Affordable Care Act, according to the latest United Technologies/National Journal Congressional Connection Poll, preferring instead to either spend more on its implementation or wait to see if changes are needed later. [...]

Given the choice to either repeal the law, wait and see how it takes effect, or add money to aid its implementation, only 36 percent of adults picked outright repeal. More than half chose to either wait and see (30 percent) or provide more money (27 percent). [...]
Among nonwhites, 60 percent said lawmakers should keep the law intact with only 32 percent backing the repeal option, highlighting how the GOP’s problems with minority voters extend into economic issues.

Yeah, good luck on that whole rebranding/appealing to minorities thing there, GOP.

Majorities are opposed to repeal even while they've been convinced by the media narrative that the White House is tripping up in implementing Obamacare. Fifty-one percent agree with the statement that "the White House is not prepared to implement the law and will encounter other major problems as well.” This has been the case since at least the second dozen attempts in the House to repeal. This time last year, the Kaiser Family Foundation's monthly tracking poll showed 56 percent opposed to wasting more time on repeal. Exit polling from November confirms it as well—only a quarter of voters asked in exit polling wanted full repeal of the law.

It's a political dead end for Republicans. Even some of their staunchest supporters are coming around to that realization.

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Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Tue Jul 23, 2013 at 09:37 AM PDT.

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  •  Tip Jar (32+ / 0-)

    "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. [...] There would be no place to hide."--Frank Church

    by Joan McCarter on Tue Jul 23, 2013 at 09:37:36 AM PDT

  •  Now, if we can get them interested in... (11+ / 0-)

    ...voting in more Democrats next year, that should really show Boehner!

    Float like a manhole cover, sting like a sash weight! Clean Coal Is A Clinker!

    by JeffW on Tue Jul 23, 2013 at 09:45:01 AM PDT

  •  Death Spiral... (4+ / 0-)
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    I love OCD, True North, skillet, Aunt Pat

    The GOP is becoming increasingly unpopular and their ideas more isolated.  But they represent the core believers.  If they were to shift to meet the changing attitudes of most Americans, they would immediately lose their rapid base.  So they keep doubling down on the stupidity.  But some media is starting to catch on (hopefully).  There was an excellent article in the New Yorker which discussed the unprecedented obstructionism.  

    'Where free unions and collective bargaining are forbidden, freedom is lost' - Ronald Reagan, Communist

    by RichM on Tue Jul 23, 2013 at 09:50:51 AM PDT

    •  I feel like they take advantage of (2+ / 0-)
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      "core believers," but advocate for the economic interests America's 50,000 wealthiest households, if that. If you know what a 1740 trust is, you're their base.

      I'm living in America, and in America you're on your own. America's not a country. It's just a business.

      by CFAmick on Tue Jul 23, 2013 at 10:03:54 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Unfortunately, the Democratic Party also... (1+ / 0-)
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      has its version of teabaggers that seem intent on making sure that Democrats won't be able to capitalize on the situation and be in a position to recapture ground and make advances on issues that they purport to desire.  Such as improving safety net legislation like Food Stamps, Subsidized Housing, improving the ACA with an eye towards single payer, various welfare and disability assistance.  Or restoring and strengthening Civil and Voting rights for everyone.  Or Immigration Reform that treats immigrants with respect, dignity and fairness.  Or reining in the Military/Intelligence Industrial Complex and an out of control Banking and Financial Markets system.  Or gun control legislation.  Or making in quality and affordability of Education.  Or ending the privatization of the Government.  And many more advancements that are not currently possible due to Republicans.

      A person's character is measured by how they treat everyone. Not just your pet group.

      by Tempus Figits on Tue Jul 23, 2013 at 10:44:55 AM PDT

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  •  Glad to see a sign of sanity re. Obamacare (6+ / 0-)

    It makes sense that most people would want to at least wait and see, if not put more resource into effective implementation.

    This is what I would have expected.

    It's surprising only because previous polls in the news have shown a majority of Americans against Obamacare.  Perhaps it was in the wording of those polls. That can be very misleading.

    I hope this poll gets some good media attention.

    Some people fight fire with fire. Professionals use water.

    by Happy Days on Tue Jul 23, 2013 at 10:04:18 AM PDT

    •  Yes (2+ / 0-)
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      When one breaks down those anti-Obamacare polls, one usually finds that many of those who say they are against it  feel that way because they believe it doesn't go far enough.

      Yet, the polls are always reported as if all the naysayers were conservatives who share the right's point-of-view.

      •  Not to mention that the ACA was promoted as being (0+ / 0-)

        "a first step" that with "incremental improvements" could be "improved over time" into something as good as single payer...

        Oh, those whacky days of yore! It seems more and more that we'll be settling in for the long haul with "guaranteed insurance for all!"

    •  Public polling (2+ / 0-)
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      Polls tend to ask generic questions, like are you pro-life, and many may answer that they are pro-life but that doesn't mean that they also want laws to reflect their personal views on abortion.  I've read, too, that a good chunk of those polled who indicate that they do not like Obamacare it's because they do not think it goes far enough, i.e. single-payer --which is what I prefer, but I think Obamacare is a step in that (inevitable?) direction.

      The Democrats care about you after you're born. --Ed Schultz

      by micsimov on Tue Jul 23, 2013 at 10:22:02 AM PDT

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  •  Accelerating into a dead end alley. (4+ / 0-)

    I just hope they hit the wall sooner than later.

    If I ran this circus, things would be DIFFERENT!

    by CwV on Tue Jul 23, 2013 at 10:15:59 AM PDT

  •  Anyone have a read on how much Republican (1+ / 0-)
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    states can do to sabotage the implementation?  Can they make "deals" with the insurance companies for higher rates in the exchanges or other dirty tricks to deliver a sub par product to the citizens of their state?

    “The future depends entirely on what each of us does every day.” Gloria Steinem

    by ahumbleopinion on Tue Jul 23, 2013 at 10:33:40 AM PDT

    •  They can certainly do their "level best" (1+ / 0-)
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      to shut down as many clinics offering health care as they can, I suppose . . .

      "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

      by bryduck on Tue Jul 23, 2013 at 11:10:59 AM PDT

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  •  Is it a dead end or a long game? (0+ / 0-)

    If they destroy Obamacare, either through piecemeal sabotage or repeal, they get us back to square zero on universal healthcare. The fact that repeal isn't popular doesn't really--and shouldn't, in some ways--enter into things. They're against a policy. They're doing what they can to undermine it, not just for now, but for a long long time to come.

    It's evil, but I'm not convinced that it's shortsighted.

    "Gussie, a glutton for punishment, stared at himself in the mirror."

    by GussieFN on Tue Jul 23, 2013 at 11:10:31 AM PDT

  •  prediction (2+ / 0-)
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    Obama will cave on some minor detail and those R governors who didn't expand medicaid will now accept the billions and proclaim they "saved" the program.

    Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. John Kenneth Galbraith .

    by melvynny on Tue Jul 23, 2013 at 11:10:58 AM PDT

  •  What I've seen so far here in CA- (6+ / 0-)

    dammit I like what I see so far.  I've scoured the CA website.  I qualify for the subsidy because I usually pull in a little less than 28,000 a year, which is not much.

    The coverage for the middle plan (I think Silver) looks good, it essentially looks like what I had when I had kick ass coverage through a good employer.   Nothing looks out there or crazy and some of the co-pays for procedures or blood work could be tight but doable.  

    When the haters on the right go after me for my argument of basic coverage is certainly much better than nothing and then going into debt/bankruptcy, it's strange, they don't get it, all I can assume is they've never faced medical debt before.

    I'm only going by what I see on paper, of course I have to wait until January 2014 when I can get started and see what's what, but I have nothing so I simply have to give it a go.  

    I will of course let everyone here know perhaps a diary how my medical adventures go.    

    Uninsured cancer survivor

    by ArtemisBSG on Tue Jul 23, 2013 at 11:17:12 AM PDT

  •  Gotta get out of that bubble every now and then (0+ / 0-)

    assholes.

    •  From the article: (0+ / 0-)
      None of this is to say Obamacare won't face huge problems. The most obvious is that it will make things worse for more people than it helps.... Republicans will... start searching for ways to limit the harm done to millions of Americans
      Dunno, sounds pretty out-of-touch with reality to me.  I mean, Republicans trying to help the American people?  What planet is he on?
  •  They better not mess up implementation. (0+ / 0-)

    The Obama administration had better be on top of this. I get that the Red States are going to drag their feet, but at least make sure it goes smooth as possible in the states that are cooperating.

    If they fuck this up after YEARS to prepare, they only have themselves to blame when Republicans get more ammunition for repeal and a crushing win in 2014.

    Make it work though, and make sure Americans are CRYSTAL CLEAR in understanding that they are getting subsidies and what the new coverage protects against and their new rights (perhaps send out a letter to every enrolled with a FAQ), and Obamacare will be as popular as Medicare.

    And when people in Texas call their friends in California and find out how much better healthcare is for them, it won't be long until even the foot-dragging states give in.

    DON"T MESS IT UP.

    Romney: Believe in (half of) America

    by kmoros on Tue Jul 23, 2013 at 11:22:13 AM PDT

  •  They don't care about the majority of Americans (0+ / 0-)

    As has been the case for the past few years, the only people they're interested in appealing to is the small percentage of extremist wackjobs who control primary elections and radically gerrymandered districts. Repealing Obamacare is one of the best ways they can prove their bona fides to these angry, hate-filled nuts.

    If you wanna join my gang punk you gotta be hardcore. *pulls out temporary tattoos* choose a tat, but don’t choose the kitty that one is mine

    by Fordmandalay on Tue Jul 23, 2013 at 11:23:35 AM PDT

  •  I've watched politics for fifty years at least. (0+ / 0-)

    I've never seen a sicker patient than the American Congress.
    It's the most psychotic symbiosis between capitalism and revenge ideology.

    I used to tell my wife that only a huge crisis would break the government's logjam. I don't even think that a crisis would do it anymore. The whole mess may go down the drain with the Republic.

    Happy days, folks.

    "They come, they come To build a wall between us We know they won't win."--Crowded House, "Don't Dream It's Over."

    by Wildthumb on Tue Jul 23, 2013 at 11:39:06 AM PDT

  •  Yeah, but the people who hate ACA (1+ / 0-)
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    Really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really hate it!!

    So, their votes count more.

    Of course, since they get their information from liars, the ACA they hate bears almost zero resemblance to the actual law.

    Once it's in effect for a few years, and they've actually broken down and taken some type of advantage of it.............oh, who am i kidding they'll STILL hate it.  


    I'm not an athiest. How can you not believe in something that doesn't exist? That's way too convoluted for me. - A. Whitney Brown

    by AlyoshaKaramazov on Tue Jul 23, 2013 at 11:40:51 AM PDT

  •  Barack Obama stole that idea from Mitt Romney! (1+ / 0-)
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    I still want Single Payer!

  •  Probably, what they're ACTUALLY doing (2+ / 0-)
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    is trying to inoculate themselves against Tea-Party challenges in 2014.

    Occam's Razor and all.


    I'm not an athiest. How can you not believe in something that doesn't exist? That's way too convoluted for me. - A. Whitney Brown

    by AlyoshaKaramazov on Tue Jul 23, 2013 at 11:42:52 AM PDT

  •  Maybe it's finally sinking in that parts like (0+ / 0-)

    no denials for pre-existing conditions actually affect people besides bleeding heart lib'ruls.

    My Karma just ran over your Dogma

    by FoundingFatherDAR on Tue Jul 23, 2013 at 11:44:01 AM PDT

  •  let's be real (0+ / 0-)

    for  a reality check on Obamacare, check out this Washington Post story on how Democrat support for the bill has plummeted.

  •  The outcome of elections (0+ / 0-)

    seems to matter less and less in this country. The Republicans have neutered the Democrats through manipulating and abusing the system.

    Aided by a conservative Supreme Court, this is only getting worse.  The new voter suppression laws that are rapidly being enacted by swing states with Republican governors and state houses (remember 2010) could greatly help Republicans stay in power.  They already illegally control the House against the will of the voters.

    If the Republican controlled states enact laws where governors and the presidential electoral vote count is controlled proportionally by district, that will cement Republican control for many years to come.

    I think that Obamacare will eventually be extremely popular, but that the Republicans may control our government for many years through a bloodless coup.

  •  Even more interesting is that Americans (0+ / 0-)

    love Obamacare if they don't know it's Obamacare bringing the changes to their coverage.  Once it's implemented the Republicans are so screwed.  No wonder they can't legislate anything but repeals.  

    I'm not looking for a love that will lift me up and carry me away. A love that will stroll alongside and make a few amusing comments will suffice.

    by I love OCD on Tue Jul 23, 2013 at 11:54:05 AM PDT

  •  Tomorrow's headlines, today: (6+ / 0-)

    Sign from Tea Party protest, February 24, 2030: "Get your government hands off my Obamacare!"

    "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." --Dom Helder Camara, archbishop of Recife

    by JamesGG on Tue Jul 23, 2013 at 11:55:13 AM PDT

  •  So what? (0+ / 0-)

    I don't really see this "story" saying much of anything.  Roughly 1/3 hate it, 1/3 like Obamacare & 1/3 are saying let's see how it goes.

    If it goes smoothly, and works people will flock to it.  If prices rise sharply, choices plummet & employers start kicking people off plans because it is cheaper to be penalized and force employees onto gov't plans support will collapse.

    Though, with rates seeming to rise sharply and the Administration delaying implementation of the business requirement until after the mid term elections I'm pessimistic this is going to work out in favor of the Dems.  If they thought it was going to increase in popularity why wait?

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