Y'know I was gonna leave poor Don Lemon alone. I really was. He said his peace, it was done - it was over. And then, as we all knew it would, this feces swirl had to happen.
Talking Points is urging the Civil Rights community to stop maligning the country and face up to the fact that young black African-Americans are the most dangerous group in this country by far. The reasons is a collapse of the traditional African-American family unit. 50 years ago when blacks had it much worse than they do know the out-of-wedlock birth rate waws 25%, now it's close to 75%, that is catastrophic. But the Civil Rights Industry and the White Power Structure basically ignore the problem. ... Fair minded Americans understand that there are serious problems in the Black Community and that it will take honest courageous people to do that. One of those honest people is CNN, Anchor Don Lemon.
Face Palm! Oh, God Damnit Again!
I gotta say I kinda feel sorry for Don. He knows not what merde pile he hath stepped in. This one's pretty deep. I mean if you watched him on The View, you'd think all his did was say "Eat Your Wheaties Kids, and don't forget brush with Crest Ultra-Double-brite for the White-est Smile EVER".
Lemon: I gave some suggestions. One was pull up your pants. I said "Stop dropping the N-Word like you're saying 'and', 'the', 'he' so much". I said respect where you live, finish school and be an involved parent.
Well, gee, when you put it that why how could anyone ever complain? We all want our kids to be bright well-groomed little founts of knowledge and good cheer. Who could say "no" to that? Why I think I know the perfect example of Stellar Black Manhood Mr. Lemon is describing. Steve Urkle.
As we all know Steve Urkle does not have a problem with letting his pants sag, because Steve Urkle tends to keep his pants waistband somewhere between his belly button and his nipples.
Problem #1 Solved.
Steve Urkle would never use the "N-Word" because - well - he's Urkle are you kidding? How would that sound coming out through his nose as he snorts?
That's #2 Down in a JIffy.
If Steve Urkle were to pick up the trash, he'd probably not just do it on his lawn. He’d do it on your lawn, your neighbors lawn, the lawn down the street and several lawns across town, because that's just how Urkle He Is.
#3 Down, no sweat.
Not only would Urkle Finish School, he'd probably invent a school to go back to just so he wouldn't feel lonely.
That's #4, see isn't this fun?
And number #5, Steve Urkle would never be an out-of-wed-lock father because STEVE URKLE IS NOT GETTING LAID - EVER!. [Ok, there was the one time, in the Series Finale...but Just that Once!]
And this is where I think we finally see a very crucial kink in Mr. Lemon's carefully laid Master Plan. Steve Urkle is - how shall I say it? - NOT FUCKING COOL.
I learned this lesson a long time ago, maybe Mr. Lemon never got the memo but Youth Culture Really Doesn't Give a Shit what Adults Think of Them. Ok? Nobody, but nobody can dictate to kids, what kids are going to think is cool. Soda companies Try. Records companies Try. Fast Food Companies Try. Video Games companies try. And yes, Parents Try. Oh, do they ever. More often than not, that shit doesn't work. Kids like what Kids like. Kids are gonna do, what kids are gonna do. Parent may have some control, but kids are gonna push those boundaries as far as they can.
Some of these companies sometimes get lucky with giving kids what they want and you might want to call that pandering, others call it increasing their market share and others - getting ratings and increasing your Q-Score with cheap tricks. Like say, telling Black people things that White people want them to hear. I'm sure Don's heard of the concept.
But please let's all NOT pretend that all of the millions of decent parents, black, white or fuchsia out there have not for a second considered each and everything Don has said. If they haven't they're incompetent, and that's a much bigger problem in and of itself. The truth is, if you truly have a "Broken Family Structuretm" the kids probably don't have attentive parents that they respect who can influence them in a positive way. For them, that particular train is out of the King's Cross Station and half-way to Hogwarts already.
And that's the conundrum.
How does Don think this message is going to be delivered, cause trust me -the kids aren't listening to him. They seriously Don't Know who the FRACK HE IS, so why should they care? Let me give you a for-instance. If Mr. Lemon and Mr. O'Reilly had their way - Elvis would have never gyrated across the Ed Sullivan Stage. Too Racy. If Mr. Lemon and Mr. O'Reilly had their way - Little Richard would have stayed in the Closet. Too Wild. If Mr. Lemon and Mr. O'Reilly had their way - The Beatles would have never come to America. Too much hair. if Mr. Lemon and Mr. O'Reilly had their way - Hendrix would have stayed in London. Too Crazy and Weird. If Mr. Lemon and Mr. O'Reilly had their way - The Who would have never done Tommy. Too much DRUGS! If Mr. Lemon and Mr. O'Reilly had their way - There Would have been NO FUNKADELIC. Also Too much DRUGS! If Mr. Lemon and Mr. O'Relly had their way - Prince wouldn't still be trying to find his "Beautiful One". Too much Purple. If Mr. Lemon and Mr. O'Reilly had their way - Kurt Cobain would have stayed a High School Janitor. Too much Mohair.
And all the Black Kids would be Urkle, while the white kids would be - oh shit I don't even want to think about that... ugh. shiver "Brick in the wall/Clockwork Orange" nightmares.
But here's another thing that Mr. Lemon clearly doesn't understand. He jumped right in the middle of cage match between O'Reilly and anyone serious about Civil Rights. Now he's O'Reilly's Special Look-I'm-Really-Really-Not-A-Bigot Black Friend.
Don's even getting Love Tweets From Geraldo. Yes, it's that bad.
The Dark Side is growing strong with this one. Look, Don, just gave a devout out-and-out screaming Racist Cover for his Racism and he seems completely oblivious to it.
Man, that's gonna sting in the morning.
Particular after Don said he's gonna recapture and redefine the term "Uncle Tom". Yeah, he really said that. Really. If that trick didn't work for the N-word what makes him think..? oh never mind. You can't reel some people back in after they've jumped into the center of a Sharknado without a net.
Twice.
See, the bigger point of O'Reilly's argument wasn't just Blacks Peoples Shud Talk RITE, it was his entire "Race Hustler" spiel. His argument was that Racism today is so minor, so minuscule, so insignificant that anyone with half an ounce of effort can just "GET OVER IT" with a shrug.
I'm Sorry But, I don't think 2 Million People - half of whom are black - in our Jails is something shrug worthy. It's just not. Also, just because some people can jump over those hurdles doesn't mean that everyone can, while ignoring the simple fact : THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO PUT UP WITH THOSE HURDLES in the first place.
What makes people think that everyone is so selfish as to think - "I made it, fuck you go get your own?" Maybe some of us would like to help others up when they get tripped up by those annoying little extra hurdles like being repeatedly prematurely kicked out of school, then targeted, harassed, jailed and shot by police. Maybe some of us care about that, and realize sagging pants has nothing to do with it? Maybe some of us think the rubble of bigotry that still dots the landscape after the collapse of the Segregation/Jim Crow wall - is worth cleaning up so people don't continue to trip on it. O'Reilly came after Al Sharpton, for Al Sharpton coming after O'Reilly about the two of them together going to Sylvia's Restaurant in Harlem - let me repeat together - in 2007 and then O'Reilly spouting a bunch of shit about it like he was surprised that Black people weren't hanging from the rafters like a pack of wild macaques!
And he wants "Credit" for that keen astute observation?
"Black people in their native habitat, seem remarkably - civilized. Alert the Media!" Seriously, dude? O'Reilly is one of those guys who thinks Racism is "Over", but at the same time thinks Profiling is Fine and Dandy but you can't have one and the other at the same time. One of these creates the other. In fact, I was debating this today and receive these lovely pearls of wisdom. [Tweet account seems to have been deleted]
Yeah, amazing - he actually does go by "John Galt Tweets". Anyway I later posted this to him but I've been curiously missing a reply. hmmm
[Tweet Deleted]
Maybe he'll respond to it later, after he has 10 or so hours to come up with something snappy, y'think? The problem with trying to judge an individual based on generalized statistic about a group is that you're just as likely to be wrong about them as right. Sometimes moreso. It aint fair. It aint right. Lots of people defy the odds and deserve a better fairer chance than that. Particularly when their life and livelihood is on the line. Anyway this is what AL Sharpton had to say about O'Reilly.
Shaprton >> so is bill o'reilly saying george zimmerman shot trayvon martin because trayvon was born out of wedlock, even though he wasn't? that's ridiculous, right? which is why i'm asking, what does any of that have to do with trayvon martin? he had loving parents. after watching their determined love for their son over the past year, there any doubt trayvon came from a strong home, a loving home? all of this is an effort to avoid addressing the urgent topic that something is fundamentally flawed with our justice system if laws like stand your ground allow a kid to be gunned down, but rush, hannity, o'reilly don't want to talk about that. and that's why they keep trying to change the conversation. not that bill o'reilly has a problem with racial stereotyping. Radio Host >> very integrated, diverse audience. and they're hearing you. and i think that black people are going to feel that you're stereotyping them. O'Reilly >> I Don't Care.
And this is what Don Lemon with his childish kindergarten advice has come parachuting into. There is a larger argument here between the "Personal Responsibility" crowd and those who feel we have a flawed set of public policies that are in fact, the cause of many people's personal dysfunction. It's not like Black people don't care about Black people problems, or don't care about Black people dying in the street simply because some of the perpetrators are Black. The very suggestion is ridiculous. It's not like Black people didn't just get together for a Forum on Violence with the Congressional Black Caucus and Rev Jesse Jackson JUST LAST WEEKEND. They did. It's not like Jesse and Al haven't done Marches to Stop Violence just as they've done Marches for Trayvon. They Have.
February 13, 2013: This past weekend, Rev. Jesse Jackson led a march in honor of the late Hadiya Pendleton, a 15 year-old King College Prep student gunned down just one week after performing at President Obama’s inauguration. Jackson, and other civic leaders, implored President Obama to use his voice and influence to lead a national conversation on the crisis of gun violence in his hometown.
So much for the "Race Hustlers" not caring about Black-on-Black Violence. If your serious about this issue, you should be able to address fixing internal problems in all parts of America - as well as external ones. It's not an either/or argument. And look I'm not much into modern Hip Hop. I still like Boogie Down Productions. Tribe Called Quest, and Public Enemy (Whose induction to the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame I attended earlier this year), but those are artists of a by-gone era. That was another time. Another day. Kids today have to make up their own path. Go their own way. We may not like it, but we have to realize there's isn't a whole hellavualot we can really do about it. Most parents who would like to do it, are probably already peddling as fast as they can to do it. It's always been this way. I would love to see some new artists in music or movies or some media who could inspire the kids in a new direction, more in the direction of Boogie Down or PE, but I'm not holding my breath on that. And I don't think Don Lemon is going be the one. Sorry Don, but the kids are not listening to you, all you're doing is making the Racists feel better about themselves. Here's one last thing. This is the actor, Jaleel White, who played Steve Urkle as he appears today.
Urkle like Don's suggestions, is a fantasy - this is Real Life.
I serously think if Bill O'Reilly, and possibly Don Lemon, met this dude in a dark alley - they'd Crap Themselves. Worse, they'd probably treat him the same way Trayvon was treated. Go on, tell him to "Pull his pants Up" - I double-dog dare ya. I'm just saying, first impressions aren't everything. Vyan
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10:00 AM PT: Ten Hours Later, On the Dot.
I told him the total number of white on white murders (based on FBI stats) is 2,630 (82%), while the Black on Black murders is 2,447 (92%). He insists on weighting it against the black/white overall population (which creates a 6:1 ratio) rather than factoring in law enforcement bias, poverty, education, location & employment options which would narrow things down to two relatively even subsets within both the black and white community, and hence the relatively even results. The Hate Crime Stats come from the same source, but suddenly he doesn't want to apply his same 6:1 population ratio argument because - well - it would be horrible since that would make it - 6x6 carry the 2 - more like 36:1 odds. You can't make people like him see this logic, they keep coming up with "82+92=Black Kids Scary" no matter what. Here are the relevant details to this part of our discussion.
Straight from the 2011 FBI Uniform Crime Stats - No chaser.
Victim |
Total |
White Offender |
Black Offender |
White |
3,172 |
2,630 |
448 |
Black |
2,695 |
193 |
2,447 |
Totals |
5,867 |
2823 |
2,895 |
Note: there are more White on White Murders (2,630) than Black on Black (2,447) - although it should be noted this isn't all murders, simply those where both race of victim and offender have been identified as either black or white - with 1 victim and 1 offender each, yet this is only FBI Crime chart with this kind of racial breakdown, so it has to do. Here's a Percent Breakdown. White Victim - White Offender 82% - Black Offender 14% Black Victim - White Offender - 7 % Black Offender 91% I have to say if 91% is bad, then 82% IMO should still kinda bad too, but really all this reveals is that most murders happen among people who know each other or at least are far more likely to come in common contact with each other.
Hate Crime Stats from the FBI. http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/hate-crime/2011
Among the single-bias hate crime incidents in 2011, there were 3,645 victims of racially motivated hate crime. . 71.9 percent were victims of an offender’s anti-black bias. . 16.3 percent were victims of an anti-white bias. . 5.2 percent were victims of a bias against a group of individuals in which more than one race was represented (anti-multiple races, group). . 4.8 percent were victims of an anti-Asian/Pacific Islander bias. . 1.9 percent were victims of an anti-American Indian/Alaskan Native bias.(Based on Table 1.)
Maybe he doesn't understand that all Hate crimes, aren't murders? Nah, couldn't be that thick could he?
11:07 AM PT: Just had a thought, O'Reilly keeps going on and on about the Black American Illegitimacy rate of 72% being the key factor leading toward Black crime.
But the Native American rate is 66%, and the Latino rate is 53%, so how come they don't have a crime wave too?
And then there's Divorce. http://www.divorcerate.org/
If the solution to maintaining a solid "traditional family" is the ultimate power fix to all problems then how does the 40-50% overall U.S. Divorce rate impact that? Black people may be having more kids without getting married, but a lot of people who are getting married but aren't staying that way - have had kids.
That's the problem with magic bullets, not all the rabbits climb into the hat at the same time for the trick to work.