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This is going around Facebook as real: http://www.democratsagainstunagenda21.com/

It smells like a hoax to me. I've done some Googling and found no analysis of whether it's real or a scam. Surely it's a scam.

Anybody know more?

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What % of your Facebook friends will fall for anything?

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  •  Tip Jar (3+ / 0-)
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    hnichols, Catte Nappe, skohayes

    "The true strength of our nation comes not from the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals." - Barack Obama

    by HeyMikey on Tue Aug 06, 2013 at 02:18:55 PM PDT

  •  Dunno. (5+ / 0-)

    http://www.democratsagainstunagenda21.com/...

    Hoax might not be a strong enough word.  Sound like real pieces of work.

    Also the main page cites Glenn Beck.

    I want to see Snowden get a fair trial, an impartial jury, and the same sentence James Clapper gets for lying to Congress.

    by happymisanthropy on Tue Aug 06, 2013 at 02:31:15 PM PDT

  •  Well, it may be a serious site (3+ / 0-)
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    hnichols, phenry, HeyMikey

    But seriously misguided.  The only talk I ever hear about Agenda 21 is from kooks.

    And besides the fact that the suggestions of A21 are all good, they are only suggestions, and carry no force of law.  As if anything the UN does carries any force of law (although I suppose sending armed "peace keepers" into some place carries force...)

    Just a right wing kook trying to rile folks up IMO.

  •  Google the guy (1+ / 0-)
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    HeyMikey

    mentioned most prominently - Michael Shaw "freedom advocates".  He reads like a loon to me.

    I am not religious, and did NOT say I enjoyed sects.

    by trumpeter on Tue Aug 06, 2013 at 03:03:06 PM PDT

  •  I came across them awhile ago (2+ / 0-)
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    Empty Vessel, HeyMikey

    SPLC seems to think they are, indeed, from the left

    While there is some opposition to Agenda 21 from the left — from groups like Democrats Against Agenda 21 — it’s on the radical right that the UN plan has become a touchstone of a larger theme that equates environmentalism with totalitarianism and the loss of individual freedom.
    http://www.splcenter.org/...

    And besides the same kooky fringiness of the usual right wingers, there is a uniquely left flavor to some of theirs.

    The so-called leaks, courtesy of Snowden, have made the issue of US-EU differences in law concerning data collection and analysis an issue.   So what is the solution to this dilemma?  Drum roll please....    

    Harmonization [bringing international laws, rules, regulations, into accordance with one another--whether in law enforcement or education or food or land use.  -

    The plan destroys rural and suburban lifestyles and transforms areas into dense mega-cities where people are assessed, monitored and controlled. Sound extreme?
    A man is living like a hunted animal in an airport across the world because he exposed a secret.  The secret is that our government is spying on us. The Russians say he can stay in Russia if he agrees not to release any more secrets and he refuses.  A traitor or a brave patriot?  I say he's a patriot.

    Lt. Bradley Manning exposed, among other things, that our own military committed crimes.  His reward?  Prison and torture.
     

    http://www.democratsagainstunagenda21.com/...

    “Texas is a so-called red state, but you’ve got 10 million Democrats here in Texas. And …, there are a whole lot of people here in Texas who need us, and who need us to fight for them.” President Obama

    by Catte Nappe on Tue Aug 06, 2013 at 03:04:03 PM PDT

    •  Yup (2+ / 0-)
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      HeyMikey, Catte Nappe

      we've got our own kooks. And like most kooks, have at least a tinge of truth to their kookiness.

      We also have our own not-so-kooky but not so smart tendencies as well.  I first realized this many years ago in Hawaii, when the local lefty free paper did a long expose on the air quality on the Big Island.  Turns out its really shitty.  But the problem is that its caused by the volcanos, its a natural phenomena.  But, being the lefty paper, somehow either the government or big business must be responsible.  After much hand-waving, the article concluded the government was at fault due to insufficient monitoring, despite regular monitors and pretty good warnings. It was a bit of an education for me as to the sometimes good intentions, but not so great execution, of some of my liberal peers.

      "Empty vessels make the loudest sound, they have the least wit and are the greatest blabbers" Plato

      by Empty Vessel on Tue Aug 06, 2013 at 03:16:54 PM PDT

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  •  Agenda 21 is another boogeyman (2+ / 0-)
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    HeyMikey, Catte Nappe

    About as real as FEMA camps.  But the conspiracy nuts believe everything.  These lies will never go away unfortunately.

    Intelligence agencies keep things secret because they often violate the rule of law or of good behavior. -Julian Assange-

    by ChadmanFL on Tue Aug 06, 2013 at 03:08:58 PM PDT

  •  Well, that domain name was registered... (1+ / 0-)
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    HeyMikey

    ...by someone who wants to remain generally anonymous:

    Domain Name: democratsagainstunagenda21.com
          Created on..............: 2010-05-23
          Expires on..............: 2017-05-23

       Administrative Contact:
          Domain Discreet Privacy Service
          ATTN: democratsagainstunagenda21.com
          12808 Gran Bay Pkwy, West
          Jacksonville, FL 32258
          US
          Phone: 1-902-7492701
          Email: 25uul8pn74isk8lel6qpml7evo@domaindiscreet.com

    Outfits like Domain DIscreet exist for only one purpose - to act as a proxy for those who do not want their ownership of domain names to be general knowledge.

    I smell Astroturf...

    The word "parent" is supposed to be a VERB, people...

    by wesmorgan1 on Tue Aug 06, 2013 at 05:11:43 PM PDT

    •  I also note that it was created in 2010... (0+ / 0-)

      ...so it has apparently been idle/"parked" for some time if it's only going live this year...

      The word "parent" is supposed to be a VERB, people...

      by wesmorgan1 on Tue Aug 06, 2013 at 05:12:42 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  They didn't just "go live" this year (2+ / 0-)
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        Just Bob, HeyMikey

        They've been busy for several years.

        On Saturday, August 6, 2011, the Post Sustainability Institute in collaboration with the Santa Rosa Neighborhood Coalition and Democrats Against UN Agenda 21 dot com, hosted the
        Behind the Green Mask Conference
        in Santa Rosa, CA.

        FEATURED SPEAKER:  MICHAEL SHAW, Freedom Advocates

        with Rosa Koire, Executive Director, Post Sustainability Institute and Orlean Koehle, author, Just Say No to Big Brother's Smart Meters, and By Stealth and Deception

        http://www.democratsagainstunagenda21.com/...

        “Texas is a so-called red state, but you’ve got 10 million Democrats here in Texas. And …, there are a whole lot of people here in Texas who need us, and who need us to fight for them.” President Obama

        by Catte Nappe on Tue Aug 06, 2013 at 05:26:22 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  Hmmm...a bit more info on Rosa Koire... (4+ / 0-)
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    Just Bob, HeyMikey, skohayes, Catte Nappe
    Rosa Koire is a forensic commercial real estate appraiser specializing in eminent domain valuation.  A former District Branch Chief for the California Department of Transportation, her twenty-eight year career in litigation support on land use has culminated in exposing the impacts of Sustainable Development on private property rights and individual liberty.  
    I also note that she has appeared on the Alex Jones show.  Draw your own conclusions.

    The word "parent" is supposed to be a VERB, people...

    by wesmorgan1 on Tue Aug 06, 2013 at 06:05:53 PM PDT

  •  If you are in Carroll County Md., and your name (0+ / 0-)

    Is Rothschild, and you're a Republican county commissioner, then you would probably believe it.

    Thump! Bang. Whack-boing. It's dub!

    by dadadata on Tue Aug 06, 2013 at 08:59:29 PM PDT

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