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Tony Perkins
Living proof of humanity's increasingly low standards
Remember how we were talking about how the entire conservative movement's just one big grift focused on keeping stupid people terrified about everything, all the time, so that the stupid people keep sending them money? Tony Perkins and the Family Research Council have that one down.
"If a foreign enemy had plotted to infiltrate America, I’m not sure an army of undercover subversives could have done more damage than our government-run schools….

Leftists don’t want a single American child to escape their thought control.  And they are crowding out true education. […]

Today’s science classes often feature big-government political propaganda, taking time and focus away from true science. Not to mention attacks on the Bible and arrogant censoring of any theories like intelligent design that challenge their Darwinism."

Here I've had a kid in public school all this time, and not once did I realize what a dystopian gulag it was. How dare it try to stomp out "true science" like … intelligent desi … oh, what's the point. I can't even pretend to think Tony Perkins knows what "science" is, not even as satire. "Intelligent design" is a "science" the same way as tying your feet to the bumper of a car and gluing skateboard wheels to your face can be considered "carpooling." That they even chose the term demonstrates that they don't know what either of those two words mean.
Accompanying Perkins’ letter is a “Protect America’s Children Survey” which asks whether their local schools are experiencing a range of problems, including “Positive portrayals of homosexuality or negative portrayals of those who don’t affirm homosexuality,” “Not enough teaching of the Christian roots of America,” “Absence of presentation of intelligent design theory,” and “Not enough teaching on the virtues of limited government and free enterprise.”
How dare the local school indoctrinate our kids by not teaching them only from a list of subjects approved by far-right crackpots. Stupid schools probably don't even properly discriminate against Jewish kids, either, what with their not believing Christ is Lord and stuff, and don't even get me started on them teaching all the damn constitutional amendments. If the Founding Fathers wanted us to elect senators by popular vote then they would have damn well put it in the original document, the real one that the government has been hiding from us this whole time, the one marked "We Luv Jeebus 4Ever" and "Scianse Get Out!" and on the back there's a map to the secret factory where Karl Marx and Leonardo da Vinci made all those fake dinosaur skeletons to bury around the world.

It no longer scares me that people like Tony Perkins exist. It does still scare me that there are dimwits out there who read this stuff and honestly think our elementary schools are a hotbed of not-enough-Bible-having and intolerable "propaganda" like basic goddamn genetics that everyone goddamn agrees on except for a bare handful of cultist anti-intellectual hermits who say it does not properly conform to pre-Copernican allegories written in The Magic Book. Sometimes it's difficult to figure out how humanity evolved past the point of licking apex predators for sport.

Originally posted to Hunter on Thu Aug 08, 2013 at 12:53 PM PDT.

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  •  rAmen (7+ / 0-)
    It does still scare me that there are dimwits out there who read this stuff and honestly think our elementary schools are a hotbed of not-enough-Bible-having and intolerable "propaganda" like basic goddamn genetics that everyone goddamn agrees on except for a bare handful of cultist anti-intellectual hermits who say it does not properly conform to pre-Copernican allegories written in The Magic Book.

    Living the austerity dream.

    by jwinIL14 on Thu Aug 08, 2013 at 12:57:41 PM PDT

    •  This is one POWERFUL statement: (4+ / 0-)
      Remember how we were talking about how the entire conservative movement's just one big grift focused on keeping stupid people terrified about everything, all the time, so that the stupid people keep sending them money?
      I swear to God they are merely playing the game of "stupidity leapfrogging", where they are just trying to out-stupid each other. Altho I gotta say, they have perfected the game! Only question is: where does it end?
  •  Why (4+ / 0-)

    Why must we share our country with people like this? It certainly does get tiresome. Can't they all move to some uninhabited island somewhere?

    •  Mybe We Could Arrange A 3 Hr Boat Tour For Them (5+ / 0-)

      and they would get stranded on that island for years

    •  That's what they want US to do! (5+ / 0-)

      They say Secede but they mean Ethnic Cleanse. They don't plan on going anywhere, they plan on getting rid of "those people" which translates as anyone that they disagree with, is different than them or that they just don't like.

      If I ran this circus, things would be DIFFERENT!

      by CwV on Thu Aug 08, 2013 at 01:21:47 PM PDT

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      •  Yes (4+ / 0-)

        They are just as frustrated with us as we are with them.

        I'm just fed up with their BS and would be happy if it all went away.

      •  Interesting history: (2+ / 0-)
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        I guess that I am a product of that "liberal stuff" b/c I had it in my head that the US colonials were actually immigrating to secede from Great Britain.

        I thought they were tired of all that Church pressure to do something and left to do whatever the hell they wanted.

        Plus, I thought that the one thing that the founders detested was the idea of church having anything to do with government. I guess if that is "liberal thinking" the founders were one hell of a lot more liberal than these guys.

        Blessed are the peacemakers, the poor, the meek and the sick: The "party of Jesus" wouldn't invite him to their convention - fearing his "platform."

        by 4CasandChlo on Sat Aug 10, 2013 at 05:47:16 PM PDT

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        •  Dummasses need to spend a coupla weekends (0+ / 0-)

          watching the History Channel. They'd be stunned at what they hear about the Constitution, Founding Fathers, et al.

        •  Inaccurate. (0+ / 0-)

          I'm sorry, but even liberals can get history wrong.

          The founders didn't leave England in order to secede. The founders and most of the people around in 1776, didn't leave England at all, because they were born here. I believe you are referring to the people we call "settlers".

          The Pilgrims and Puritans settled here for religious reasons--they did not believe England was nearly strict enough and they wanted to form their own little theocracies. Doing "whatever the hell they wanted" is accurate, but tolerance was not included. They wanted theocracies. Still, those people didn't "found" the United States.

          Most immigrants came to escape poverty. I think that is when the first white-on-white hatred began here. Religious theocrats versus people who want to better their lives and eat...sounds a lot like today, doesn't it?

          The Revolutionary War had nothing to do with religion. Not a thing. It was about representation and taxes and the current king refusing to be reasonable--as in, refusing to listen to any of his advisers who were telling him his actions would absolutely lead to war. Almost all of our "Founders" were loyal British citizens who tried everything they could to get the king to be reasonable. They would have settled for taxes if they could have been represented in the English Court; instead, the king sent more soldiers and became even more controlling and his taxes became outright abusive. War was the absolute last resort. But religion had nothing to do with the war.

          The men who wrote the Constitution (which replaced the Orders of the Confederacy, our first government) did keep religion out of the document, specifically in the requirements for being President. That angered a lot of men who wanted to make sure scary people--like Catholics--weren't allowed to rule the nation. Some men didn't sign it for that reason. (The people who left it out weren't actually being tolerant...they seemed to believe that if we ever elected a Catholic we were already in such bad shape the nation wouldn't even be functional.)

          The small group of people we think of as our Founding Fathers were mainly deists, not Christians. Thomas Jefferson (who wasn't involved in writing the Constitution and found it appalling) was a committed deist, but the Christian radicals seize firmly on the word "Creator" in the Declaration of Independence and swear he meant their holy trinity. Jefferson had a number of viewpoints, though--when he wrote Virginia's Constitution he prominently included religion and church.

    •  You know, maybe we've been going at this all wrong (0+ / 0-)

      Instead of disputing them, maybe we should confirm their fears.  Maybe "discover" another book of the bible, written by ACTUAL JESUS, with instructions that true Christians can only be "saved" by moving to Fiji.  They can even take their guns and flat screen teevee's and their collections of velvet  Elvises with 'em when they get raptured.  When the oceans rise, they'll get raptured alright.
      (Begging The pardon of actual Fijians)

    •  Kinda like England did w/ Australia? (0+ / 0-)
  •  Actually, our local high school... (3+ / 0-)
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    ...happens to be among the Top 1000 public high schools in the country (per rankings by Newsweek, the Washington Post, and US News over the last 3-5 years), and the AP US History course my kids completed went into no small detail on the "Christian roots" of early settlers in what became the USA.

    Of course, it also goes into great detail where the Constitution is concerned, which tends to put things in their proper perspective.

    The word "parent" is supposed to be a VERB, people...

    by wesmorgan1 on Thu Aug 08, 2013 at 01:46:51 PM PDT

  •  I don't understand... (2+ / 0-)
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    how these people exist.  

    I wouldn't believe it if I hadn't witnessed the intellectual disconnect 1st hand.  

    Out of context, people are crazy. Tralala...

    by darlalalala on Thu Aug 08, 2013 at 01:50:57 PM PDT

  •  Perkins, let me put it plainly. (5+ / 0-)

    If something is do be taught as a scientific theory in schools, first it actually has to BE a scientific theory.

    The ways in which intelligent design is NOT a scientific theory, let me count the ways....

  •  If they ever decide to teach meteorology (4+ / 0-)

    in public schools, it would only be fair that Pat Robertson would guest lecture and explain to our young aspiring scientists how homosexuality is directly responsible for catastrophic weather events.  

  •  Been waitin'... (3+ / 0-)

    for these idiots to die off since '69. Don't think its happening in my lifetime .  The ballast on progress just gets heavier .

  •  To make it worse, Perkins is Catholic (0+ / 0-)

    and the Catholic church doesn't have a problem with evolution.  The Vatican made a statement to that effect a couple of years ago. And way back in 65, my Catholic high school taught evolution as part of bio class.

    The last time we mixed religion and politics people got burned at the stake.

    by irishwitch on Thu Aug 08, 2013 at 04:51:21 PM PDT

  •  What Perkins means by (0+ / 0-)

    "not affirming homosexuality" is that he only burns one cross in his gay neighbor's yard.

    And the allusion to the KKK isn't very far off the mark in his case.

  •  Damn...and here I thought.. (0+ / 0-)

    Public education was designed to give ALL children a good education to better their lives. Not once in the 16 yrs I sent my kids to public schools did I ever have to worry about their rigid indoctrination. And look at them now..a strong, independent free-thinker who's as atheist as his mom and a God-fearing, saint-worshiping, Greek Orthodox convert daughter who lets the libertarians tell her how the world runs. But both know their math, how to spell real words and think science is awesome and they both question the news and world events every day without worrying if the big bad gub'mint messed with their minds! Amazing what public education can do!

  •  Thanks Hunter (6+ / 0-)

    nosotros no somos estúpidos

    by a2nite on Sat Aug 10, 2013 at 04:05:08 PM PDT

  •  the auto shop I go to... (4+ / 0-)
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    ...has a real attractive young woman as paper shuffler.  I think she was home schooled or religious schooled.

    We had a rather peaceful conversation where I asked her to prove she is not a brain in a jar being feed stimulus and the conversation cane to intelligent design and I asked her to prove intelligent design.  her response was something like well look around you do you think all this complexity could happen by random chance.  I said yes and she laughed.  Because they don't understand science and don't want to the possibility that complex systems can come about by chance over long periods of time is a joke to them.  There must be some great mind creating them but then where did this great mind come from.

    heck chaos can create complex patterns and order for a time even.

    We Glory in war, in the shedding of human blood. What fools we are.

    by delver rootnose on Sat Aug 10, 2013 at 04:08:30 PM PDT

    •  However (3+ / 0-)
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      That isn't entirely random chance.

      I mean, the next generation of offspring is much like their parent.  Different, true, but not different in an entirely random way.  The offspring is still of the same life-form.

      Don't get me wrong.  I don't agree with the woman.  I understand evolution, but her asking you that is part of their confusion.

      There are patterns.  It's not random if you look at it that way.  It does evolve, though, of course.

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      by yet another liberal on Sat Aug 10, 2013 at 04:15:17 PM PDT

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    •  I think it's arrogance. (0+ / 0-)

      They think they're so awesome, and that since they make things -- check out this knitted toilet paper cosey, no monkey could knit that awesomeness -- then obviously God, who's the only thing more awesome than they themselves are, had to make the universe. No actual logic used, just arrogance.

  •  Loved this discussion. The expression (14+ / 0-)

    "government schools" is the give away on people that think like this.  The intent is to do away with our public education and that's shocking but its true.  We have to fight like this is real because it is.  It may not seem real because its so out there but it has happened before in other times and other places that things went up for grabs before anyone woke up.

  •  Ya know what? (5+ / 0-)

    Fuck 'em. Fuck the lof of 'em. Fuck the fucking fuckers that want to keep fucking up the fucking future.

    Fuck 'em.

  •  Perkins and the Family Research Council (4+ / 0-)
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    Perpetuation of slope headed mouth breeders.

     I mean breathers (or both).

  •  Too bad they can't see themselves (3+ / 0-)
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    as the blood suckers they are. They all want to suck off the gubmint's tax dollars to support their educational-befuddlement of children.

    I always wonder why we have to support private schools and homeskooling, if there are decent public schools, which should be getting all our taxes.

    Democrats promote the Common good. Republicans promote Corporate greed.

    by murasaki on Sat Aug 10, 2013 at 04:41:54 PM PDT

  •  Perkins, and others of his mindset, ... (4+ / 0-)
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    would be the first to squeal like stuck pigs if a religion, other than Radical Christianity, were to teach the public school students how they believe the universe was created.


    I bought a 3D printer the other day. I’m composing love letters to a girl that lives in an alternate universe.

    by glb3 on Sat Aug 10, 2013 at 04:52:30 PM PDT

    •  Australian Aboriginal Cultures ... (1+ / 0-)
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      have an interesting 'theory' of Creation too. Maybe we can teach that as a competing intellectual study to evolution.


      I bought a 3D printer the other day. I’m composing love letters to a girl that lives in an alternate universe.

      by glb3 on Sat Aug 10, 2013 at 05:01:31 PM PDT

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      •  Personally (0+ / 0-)

        I have been to where the green ants dream.

        Just sayin'.

        "We have become a Nazi monster in the eyes of the whole world - bullies and bastards who would rather kill than live peacefully. We are whores for power and oil with hate and fear in our hearts" - Hunter S. Thompson

        by Dave925 on Sun Aug 11, 2013 at 02:38:36 AM PDT

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  •  Now I know what happened (2+ / 0-)
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    I went to Public Schools and I ended up being one
    of those dreaded Socialist Fucksticks.

    What a Relief.

    All this time I thought it was all the recreational Drugs
    I ingested back in the 1970's.

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    by Brian76239 on Sat Aug 10, 2013 at 04:55:24 PM PDT

  •  Jesus believed in free enterprise???? (2+ / 0-)
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    I did not see that in the book I was raised on.  Of course I have since moved that book to the bottom of the bookshelve.

    Sarcasm on...It is so nice I live in a post racial America...Sarcasm off.

    by wbishop3 on Sat Aug 10, 2013 at 04:56:20 PM PDT

  •  Christians like these (1+ / 0-)
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    are despicable individuals.  However, the fact that very few so called 'faithful' will take them on IMHO proves how pusillanimous the whole myth is.

  •  Their Idea of "True Education" (3+ / 0-)
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    is handing pupils the Cup of Knowledge saying, "Swallow this Kool-Aid."

    Their idea of true science is, "Polls would show grape is tastiest."  If they could collect any data.

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    by Limelite on Sat Aug 10, 2013 at 04:58:40 PM PDT

  •  and if you believe this, ask for an IQ retest STAT (1+ / 0-)
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    "If a foreign enemy had plotted to infiltrate America, I’m not sure an army of undercover subversives could have done more damage than our government-run schools….
    Leftists don’t want a single American child to escape their thought control.  And they are crowding out true education. […]
    Today’s science classes often feature big-government political propaganda, taking time and focus away from true science. Not to mention attacks on the Bible and arrogant censoring of any theories like intelligent design that challenge their Darwinism."

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    by annieli on Sat Aug 10, 2013 at 04:58:42 PM PDT

  •  Perkins seems like the sort of dude who is SOOOO (2+ / 0-)
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    uptight he just might pull a gun on you for disagreeing with him.

    Or, if you ever say the original "Stepfather" movie..... that guy.

  •  There are real implications... (2+ / 0-)
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    to this meme about "government schools" that will further isolate the children of these home-schooling/far Right Christians.  They will eventually only be acceptable "graduates" to similar non-educational "higher" institutions.  Proper institutions of higher education will eventually ignore them as  unqualified (simply non-achievement on SAT/ACT will do it), opportunities will slip away, and we will arrive at two nations.  None of this is good news unless you are a religious grifter. (Is there really any other kind?)  The news gets worse because very little will, in my opinion, prevent this eventuality: low-information religion dominates rural America and defies science as the dominant meme in schools.

    Red and Blue will mean far more than political cultures: it will instantiate two  worlds, the real goal of the Tony Perkins crowd.  With any luck, the educated will not be the minority but to dismiss the anti-Darwinists is to underestimate the power of religion to manipulate, control, and direct the discourse.  (History makes this too self-evident to require much argument). If in the meantime we lose the Presidency and both Houses of Congress before Republicans achieve permanent minority status, we'll see a New Confederacy: the  division between religious and secular America will prove to be the most important distinction defining the States.  Religious apologists (let's call them non-fundamentalists) will continue to seek a reconciliation between religion and science but in fact there is none: the fundamental assumptions and arguments of the theists are incommensurate with the findings of honest science.  Even a cursory study of neo-Darwinism, physics, and earth science makes this patently clear.  Morality doesn't need religion for people to be good: the only serious distinction remaining will be between those who acknowledge the reality of science and so participate fully in the true secular world and those who live in the low-information reality of religion.

  •  Talk to these yahoos (1+ / 0-)
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    and ask them what the greatest country on earth is?

    Suprise, it's the good old US of A.

    So Tony you fuckin' troglodyte, tell me how we became the greatest with our public education system that at one time was the envy of the world.

    Can't have it both ways, but I know you do along with all your knuckle draggin' cohorts. Really Tony, 1+1=2 and it always will along with other provable sciencey stuff that you just soon ignore.

    If you want to live in a cave with jesus, knock yourself out pal, just don't expect the rest of society to quitely march in there with you and your bible.

    "We can either have democracy in this country or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both." Louis Brandeis

    by wxorknot on Sat Aug 10, 2013 at 05:03:59 PM PDT

  •  Wow - talk about mixed metaphors, etc. (2+ / 0-)
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    "Intelligent design" is a "science" the same way as tying your feet to the bumper of a car and gluing skateboard wheels to your face can be considered "carpooling."
    This is a classic that I won't even try to deconstruct.

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    by Richard Cranium on Sat Aug 10, 2013 at 05:07:28 PM PDT

    •  All time personal best by Hunter! (0+ / 0-)

      How you gonna top that Hunter? Just got to repeat that gem for the hell of it.

      "Intelligent design" is a "science" the same way as tying your feet to the bumper of a car and gluing skateboard wheels to your face can be considered "carpooling."

      What an image- like if Jackass tried to skateboard tow and lick the pavement, aka facial skitching or bumper face surfing. Anti-Darwin freedumbs gunning for the Darwin Awards.

  •  Of course Jews don't believe in Christ (2+ / 0-)
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    One of the first things you learn as a Jew is that the son always screws up the father's business.

    I'm no philosopher, I am no poet, I'm just trying to help you out - Gomez (from the song Hamoa Beach)

    by jhecht on Sat Aug 10, 2013 at 05:18:22 PM PDT

  •  Stop giving Perkins a national stage ... (2+ / 0-)
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    to broadcast his hate and lunacy...I'm looking at you MSNBC.


    I bought a 3D printer the other day. I’m composing love letters to a girl that lives in an alternate universe.

    by glb3 on Sat Aug 10, 2013 at 05:24:27 PM PDT

  •  Oh really? (3+ / 0-)
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    Leftists don’t want a single American child to escape their thought control.  And they are crowding out true education
    Project much, Tony?
  •  What the Religious Right wants: (1+ / 0-)
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    Leftists don’t want a single American child to escape their thought control.  And they are crowding out true education. […]
    True Education.


    I bought a 3D printer the other day. I’m composing love letters to a girl that lives in an alternate universe.

    by glb3 on Sat Aug 10, 2013 at 05:34:34 PM PDT

  •  "I think, therefore I am" was never more true ... (0+ / 0-)

    ... than with this pack of gullibles.

    They become what they have been taught to think, and that's what passes for success in their world.

    As in ... we can't have any of that "critical thinking" that would challenge what we're teaching our kids by rote in our home schools and at Sunday school.

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    by TRPChicago on Sat Aug 10, 2013 at 05:53:22 PM PDT

  •  Spelling word for today: "moran." (0+ / 0-)

    M-O-R-A-N...

  •  The Real Problem (1+ / 0-)
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    With the far right, be it Perkins or anyone else, is not that "The Left" is engaging in "thought control", but that there are people who haven't fallen victim to their brand of thought control.

    The right is not angry at brainwashing, they are angry that not enough people have succumbed to their own version of it.

  •  Curious as to how many of these (2+ / 0-)
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    so called "intellectuals" went to public schools? Would kind of shoot their argument of mind control by liberals down.

    They are just mad that there are places that sometimes teach people to think for themselves and to question. They are pissed that everyone isn't being raised to be a paranoid sheep so they can get more money from them.

    Sad to think so many in this world are the same way. All they care about is money. They don't really give a damn about the people they are fleecing. Wish the current sheep would just realize that.

  •  Y'all, evolution is just a theory. (3+ / 0-)
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    Also, gravity is a theory. I don't have a problem with the schools teaching the theory of gravity, as long as they ALSO teach the theory that if you drop a bowling ball off a roof it will sometimes float or possibly drift into outer space. That way, our kids can decide for themselves what they believe in science/intelligent design class.

    "Tolerance is giving to every other human being every right that you claim for yourself." - Robert Green Ingersoll

    by homeschoolmama on Sat Aug 10, 2013 at 07:40:37 PM PDT

  •  Reason and science are the soft underbelly.. (3+ / 0-)
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    ..of the GOP superstitious nuts. It's time to use it. Make them answer if they understand evolution.

    Tony Perkins isn't allowed to believe in evolution or not to believe in evolution. He either understands evolution or he doesn't. He doesn't.

    The evolution question is crucial because it takes the debate where it needs to go. Reason and science vs fear and ignorance.

    One has a future.

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    by Cpqemp on Sat Aug 10, 2013 at 09:15:14 PM PDT

  •  What it really is... (1+ / 0-)
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    All this ranting is virulently anti-Semetic.  It is time that it is exposed as such.  I guess no now would care that they are anti-Muslim, or even anti-Hindu , but their ilk clearly states their anti-semitism despite a fanatic view of being pro-Israel due to end times talk.  How Jewish "leaders" like Eric Cantor abide by this is a mystery to me.  But then there are always sellouts.

  •  something else which isn't in the Bible... (2+ / 0-)
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    Dave925, starduster

    The Theory of Evolution is not mentioned in the Bible.  Copernican astronomy is not in the Bible either... and you know what else isn't in the Bible?  

    GUNS, that's what!  There is NO mention of guns anywhere in the Bible.  

    •  Nor is the United States (1+ / 0-)
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      TimothyHorrigan

      I rest my case.

      "We have become a Nazi monster in the eyes of the whole world - bullies and bastards who would rather kill than live peacefully. We are whores for power and oil with hate and fear in our hearts" - Hunter S. Thompson

      by Dave925 on Sun Aug 11, 2013 at 02:47:19 AM PDT

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  •  The Royal Scam (0+ / 0-)

    Representative democracy is the ultimate grift.

    FREE AMERICA

    DIRECT DEMOCRACY

  •  Two things (0+ / 0-)

    First, if any one should be an expert in "thought control" is is hypocritical assholes like Tony Perkins who has been trying to fill American minds with utter bullshit since the day he was born.

    So just on that note, Fuck You Tony.

    Second, as a high school teacher, I know that 99.9% of my students are smarter than Tony and can detect his bullshit from a mile away.  So, on behalf of them, Fuck You Tony.

    I truly despise these people.  They simply hate anyone unlike themselves.  They deserve no respect, no sign of humanity.  I've used this line often- if someone like him got hit by a bus, I'd be more concerned about the bus.

    Sounds horrible, right?  Well, he wants to destroy our way of life, he deserves no sympathy at all.

  •  Christian roots? Like this? (0+ / 0-)
    In his autobiography, Jefferson recounted with satisfaction that in the struggle to pass his landmark Bill for Establishing Religious Freedom (1786), the Virginia legislature "rejected by a great majority" an effort to limit the bill's scope "in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mahometan."
    Or this?
    George Washington suggested a way for Muslims to "obtain proper relief" from a proposed Virginia bill, laying taxes to support Christian worship. On another occasion, the first president declared that he would welcome "Mohometans" to Mount Vernon if they were "good workmen."
    Or perhaps this?
    Officials in Massachusetts were equally insistent that their influential Constitution of 1780 afforded "the most ample liberty of conscience … to Deists, Mahometans, Jews and Christians," a point that Chief Justice Theophilus Parsons resoundingly affirmed in 1810.

    Note: Mahometans is a former word for Muslim.

    Yeah, Tony, let's erase any suggestion that any religion other than Christianity had a place in the founding of our country.

    (The above quotes brought to you by http://www.loc.gov/... in an article titled "The Founding Fathers and Islam: Library Papers Show Early Tolerance for Muslim Faith." I found this yesterday after a dumbass FB friend mocked Pres. Obama for suggesting that Muslims had made contributions to America.)

  •  Oh, give me a break here (1+ / 0-)
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    WC

    These guys have exposed themselves as insane idiot supremes. The public schools systems are NOT bastions of liberal thought, in fact many of the school teachers when I was in public school and when my children went to public high school were conservatives.

    Ugh...... I swear, I honestly almost puked after reading those lines in the article.

    The only thing the public school systems stand for is TRUTH and unfortunately for the conservatives, that truth usually comes down on the side of liberal thinking and thoughts, not conservative thinking and thoughts.

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