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First of all, I am not going to get self righteous and pooh pooh people who were pissed off at the Miley Cyrus performance. It is perfectly reasonable to not be happy about it. It was a pretty embarrassing cringeworthy performance. If you are a bunch of adult friends watching it, yeah, you can have a laugh at it. But if you are with family, I understand the extreme discomfort factor because I felt it too. And I say this as someone who was not bothered by Lady Gaga or even Madonna (though Madonna started looking a tad desperate in some of her later controversy causing attempts). Still, it's MTV where the kind of shows on that channel have less redeeming value than the worst moments of any of the VMAs.  Poor girl , Miley, does not realize that she just can't pull off shocking like Madonna or Lady Gaga. Read Camille LaPaglia's articlefor a better analysis of why Cyrus came off desperate and awkward instead of bold and shocking.

I get that it is the VMAs and lewd behavior is par for the course.  I had family in the room when watching it and I was watching on a minor tape delay as I was watching Breaking Bad in real time. So when I got hint of what MIley Cyrus was about to do, I fast forwarded some of the scenes when she got into the Blurred Line part with the big foam finger. So none in the family got to see really how embarassing her performance really was though she could not escape scrutiny that she did not make the effort to even clean her tongue before the performance. On a side note, it would be nice for teen singers to try to get into college like we have seen from child actors like Jodie Foster, natalie Portman. Being a lewd bratty moron is not the only way to show you are grown up.

But here is where the real outrage ended up being - THE NEWS CHANNELS CONSTANTLY BOMBARDING US WITH THE WORST PARTS OF THE PERFORMANCE WITH STILL SHOTS AND REPETITIVE SHORT CLIPS under the guise of reporting how outrageous and offensive the performance was. So if some of their serious commentators were so concerned, why the hell are you doing a more effective job than MTV at making sure we can't ignore the clips even if wanted to. At least on MTV, Miley's performance gave us enough warning at the very start of her performance that something worse was to follow. You can't switch away fast enough when CNN all of sudden puts a promo clip of still shots  while cutting to commercial about the upcoming discussion of the Miley performance. I had a family member ask how they missed that clip the prior night and I had a smile on my face and told them that I fast forwarded it because I figured they would catch it anyway the next day in their own privacy consuming it on huffington post or whatever blog that decides to recycle it. (TO be honest, after everyone left, I pretty much rewound it to see how cringeworthy it really was and had a laugh at Miley's expense).

Anyway, here I am channel surfing CNN, Good Morning America, Today show and I kept seeing parts of that performance that even I don't remember seeing because they kept focusing on the worst 3 seconds. I actually thought the original unrated video of Blurred Liines got a bad rap as I felt the women in the video, especially the main brunette model, were holding their own attitude wise in the video. I would rather have a kid see the original uncensored video where the main model is seen being playful and visually taunting the guys in the video and wearing her nudity naturally than see the news clips "analyzing' that performance. (I know others disagree and feel like it is misogynistic).

This is like the Janet jackson Superbowl controversy. I am pretty sure most of the audience didn't even care one bit when it actually happened because it happened in the era before HD was common and it was a quick long shot.  But then blowhards like Bill O Reilly would be discussing how morally wrong it was and how bad it was while broadcasting blown up zoomed up slo-moed clips of the one seceond scene of Timberlake removing whatever contraption was covering Janet Jackson's breasts. And that you could not unsee or prepare yourself for and the constant focusing on those clips actually made it much worse than it really was. I would like to see these blowhards on news channels or FAUX news channels being called out on it.

Besides, my philosophy about crudeness in culture was not that it was harmful for a kid to be exposed to it once in a while. It is the constant bombardment of images that is more harmful. I would take a kid getting exposed to occasional R rated clips than constanly exposed to PG-13 low brow crap. If I have younger relatives over, and a Godfather or some other classic R rated movie is playing, it is OK once in a while to see some adult images to enjoy the art involved in such endeavors. Which is more offensive to me as an adult in charge of minors - a scene where Michael Coreleon's wife dropping her top for a brief moment or a news channel discussing constantly the worst 3 seconds of  a Miley Cyrus dance and aiding the Kardashian family in their self promotion of their shallow and hollow family?  What is more soul deadening is the constant "safe" skirting on the borderline lewdness that you see on a daily basis in news "discussion" on pop or sitcoms or fake reality shows with non celebs like the Kardashians or rich housewives that have a negative effect on culture.

We tend as a mainstream culture tend to focus too much on trivial crap like "oh did the F word sneak in?" like it is some mind numbingly corrupt event. Which kid hasnt even heard someone say fuck or shit once in a while from a family member or stranger? Worrying in minute detail about such once in a while individual exposure leads an adult to overlook persistent trends of seemingly less offensive material but with more intellectually damaging effect. So yes, parents, i understand the outrage instinct, but don't overspend it on such issues because you will need to save some of it for the things that matter more in your children's lives.

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  •  What? No photos posted here? (5+ / 0-)

    What we call god is merely a living creature with superior technology & understanding. If their fragile egos demand prayer, they lose that superiority.

    by agnostic on Thu Aug 29, 2013 at 03:15:29 AM PDT

  •  I Tend To Agree With You. Bill O (4+ / 0-)
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    is the perfect example. I've seen clips on Media Matters where Bill O talks about how there is too much sexuality in our society, then runs a few minutes of b roll with women wearing close to nothing on a loop. I am one of those guys that says if you don't like something, well change and/or block the channel.

    •  Fox Noes has done that for years. Non-stop preach (1+ / 0-)
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      the family values then roll 5 minutes of something like the Victoria's Secret fashion show to "prove their point".  Over and over again.  For days.

      If the NSA has all this magical power, why can't they stop phone scammers?

      by here4tehbeer on Thu Aug 29, 2013 at 06:45:12 AM PDT

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  •  After this performance, I keep having a (5+ / 0-)

    recurring thought--what if this is just some vast performance art project?  A statement on the objectification of women and what "sells" in music these days?

    What if it were deliberately bad as a satire on the system itself?

    Nah, these people aren't that sophisticated.

    "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

    by zenbassoon on Thu Aug 29, 2013 at 03:52:40 AM PDT

    •  I Thought The Same Thing (4+ / 0-)

      I am an advertising/marketing guy. If I was working with her I might tell her to do something like this to get like a week of free media coverage. Folks that won't buy your album in the first place still won't buy it. But millions will hear your name. Head to YouTube. Maybe buy some songs on iTunes.

      •  But then the video for the song has her (2+ / 0-)
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        doing a lot of the same stuff.

        "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

        by zenbassoon on Thu Aug 29, 2013 at 04:00:14 AM PDT

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        •  There Is A Lot Of Performance Art (1+ / 0-)
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          I don't often understand. And I then I just think to each their own. Via I think Boing Boing there was a link to a Lady Gaga performance art thing she did running around a forest nude screaming at the top of her lungs. I mean I guess that is a "thing" now.

          Personally I like what Jay-Z did a few weeks ago at an art museum in NYC (HBO has a show on it).  This happened:

      •  Oh This Worked On Me Once With Lady Gaga (1+ / 0-)
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        I had heard of her, but I am not that hip from a music point-of-view. I think it was after the coverage of her wearing a "meat" dress.

        I headed to YouTube and actually thought she was kind of talented. Ended up buying some of her music.

        •  She is actually really talented. She writes all (0+ / 0-)

          her own stuff, and does most of her keyboard work.  Like Alicia Keys only with a meat suit.

          "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

          by zenbassoon on Thu Aug 29, 2013 at 04:09:46 PM PDT

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      •  True (0+ / 0-)

        She is getting exactly the reaction she bargained for.

        She's a child star desperately trying to make sure she doesn't end up in the has been pile.  So she puts on a glorified bathing suit and shakes her ass for the camera.


        Was it cringe worthy. Yes.  

        But mostly because the execution was bad and not particularly entertaining.

        Should she be condemned and slut shamed.  No.  

        She's a female entertainer, and unfortunately sex still sells.  That - and acting all faux "gangsta" and all.  

        The media is going to have her and her dirty tongue wagging all the way to the bank.

    •  Courtesy of The Onion. (0+ / 0-)

      from 2008, but it is still relevant.

  •  Watched with my 14 yo (2+ / 0-)
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    She had grown up a "Hannah Montana" fan. She kept saying "what was she thinking?" I found the performance well, inelegant and unfortunate. Hopefully, Miley will look back on this in a couple of years and admit this wasn't the best of artistic expressions.

    Though I have to say all sorts of " decision makers" enabled this. There were choreographers, producers, etc. from concept to final dress rehearsal. I'm a bit concerned that this is exclusively "her fault."

    When you are right you cannot be too radical; when you are wrong, you cannot be too conservative. --Martin Luther King Jr.

    by Egalitare on Thu Aug 29, 2013 at 03:59:58 AM PDT

    •  Guess You've Never Worked With a Star (0+ / 0-)

      I was going to say, "Diva" but even when the person in the spotlight has a reputation for being sweeter than pie, nobody on the crew wants to be the one to say, "Maybe you shouldn't be doing that."



      Strange that a harp of thousand strings should keep in tune so long

      by jabney on Thu Aug 29, 2013 at 07:48:32 AM PDT

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  •  Once upon a time (4+ / 0-)
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    This spectacle would have been cancelled and replaced in rehearsal. Skilled and talented choreographers, directors and producers can create a performance number that can make even a marginal talent look a notch above average if the talent can follow direction. This thing was plainly a mess from inception.

  •  I haven't watched teevee news for 10 years. (3+ / 0-)
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    Precisely because I don't want to waste my time sitting through crap to get to some good or relevant stuff.  Same with radio.

    Warren/3-D Print of Warren in 2016!

    by dov12348 on Thu Aug 29, 2013 at 04:22:29 AM PDT

  •  Yeah. Pretty much. (0+ / 0-)

    And I didn't even watch. It's the not-news news reporting that is, indeed, stupid.

    Thump! Bang. Whack-boing. It's dub!

    by dadadata on Thu Aug 29, 2013 at 04:25:42 AM PDT

  •  Sources warn miley cyrus will be depleted by 2013 (5+ / 0-)

    Once again the onion nails it.

    If work was a good thing, the rich would have it all and not let you do it. -- Elmore Leonard

    by voroki on Thu Aug 29, 2013 at 04:32:28 AM PDT

  •  Girls Just Want to Have Fun (6+ / 0-)

    but Cyndi Lauper did not like the performance.

    Lauper slated Miss Cyrus for her racy display and said it was like watching soft porn and said: "That was girl gone wild. So sad, so sad."

    The 60-year-old also said it was wrong of her to dance to a song that promoted date rape and sent the wrong message to her young fans.

    She said: "She's in a song that literally says that the blurred lines* allowed you to—when a woman says no, she means yes—and that's frightful because that's date rape. And there she is, a young twentysomething trying to prove she can hang with the big boys and girls, you know, basically simulating a Girl Gone Wild video onstage. And I just felt like that was so beneath her and raunchy, really raunchy. It wasn't even art."

    *Robin Thicke's hit is "Blurred Lines."

    Married father Robin Thicke did not acquit himself well in this performance--not to mention he was off-key--but he is getting less criticism than Miley Cyrus.

    Here's another take on the real, real problem with Miley's song and performance:

    She recently admitted that she references the party drug MDMA in her hit song, We Can't Stop

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    The drug use in Cyrus' song is more than an oblique reference to MDMA, or "molly," and forms a central theme. "Everyone in line in the bathroom, trying to get a line in the bathroom" is clearly about doing lines in the bathroom.[...]

    And while normally casual designer drug use would be a crucial part of any self-respecting party anthem in this day and age, the inflection is mechanical, and the repetition of the song itself conveys a cycle. A cycle they, yes, can't stop.  

    Because here's the thing about Molly (MDMA): The drug brings about a euphoric feeling by increasing the presence of three neurotransmitters, dopamine, serotonin, and norepinephrine.

    These are the chemicals that, for all intents and purposes, make you feel happy.[...]

    But, you don't have an infinite supply of them.

    When you deplete serotonin, it takes a while to get back to normal serotonin levels.

    As a result, regular MDMA abusers get serotonin hangovers several days later, because they have actually run out of the brain molecule that makes them feel happy.

    Read more:

    Yes it's healthy for Miley Cyrus and her fans to be self-defined regardless of outside criticism, to couple that message of defiance and rebellion with using Ecstasy and the messages in Robin Thicke's "Blurred Lines" song is problematic, to say the least.

    "I am not interested in picking up crumbs of compassion thrown from the table of someone who considers himself my master. I want the full menu of rights." (From "You Said a Mouthful" by Bishop Desmond Tutu - South African bishop & activist, b.1931)

    by FiredUpInCA on Thu Aug 29, 2013 at 04:40:28 AM PDT

  •  Miley, Miley's reps and MTV are no doubt happy (2+ / 0-)
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    Memo to anyone who has suggested heads will roll at MTV over Miley Cyrus’ exuberant twerking of teddy bear and Robin Thicke at Sunday’s VMAs: The VMAs clobbered all competition for the week, with a 5.2 rating in the key 18-49 demo.
    Sunday night's Miley Cyrus-assisted ceremony drew in an impressive 10.1 million sets of eyes — that's a 66 percent leap for the show, which has been the subject of headlines all day.
    Cyrus' twerking fueled a Twitter record with an unprecedented 306,100 tweets-per-minute, according to MTV. By VMAs-end, Cyrus had been referenced 4.5 million times on the social site.

    According to a chart created on by TheWrap, "Miley" was tweeted a total of 9.4 million times between Sunday and Monday. "Cyrus" also saw a significant increase, as did mentions of her twitter handle, @mileycyrus.

    According to the network, Cyrus' album, "Bangerz," shot to No. 5 on iTunes album sales chart following the MTV tongue-wagging, butt-slapping, and teddy bear-filled performance.

    The fact that MTV's VMA ratings went up compared to last year and Twitter was on fire during the performance, all but guarantees someone will attempt to be more outrageous and controversial next time.

    "I am not interested in picking up crumbs of compassion thrown from the table of someone who considers himself my master. I want the full menu of rights." (From "You Said a Mouthful" by Bishop Desmond Tutu - South African bishop & activist, b.1931)

    by FiredUpInCA on Thu Aug 29, 2013 at 04:55:22 AM PDT

  •  The real outrage here... (9+ / 0-) that MTV still hosts the Video Music Awards, when it hasn't shown a music video in ten years.

    They should just drop the pretense of being "Music" Television, and change the name of the channel to the Shiny Objects Network.

    "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." --Dom Helder Camara, archbishop of Recife

    by JamesGG on Thu Aug 29, 2013 at 04:56:49 AM PDT

  •  And now for something completely different (0+ / 0-)

    Richard Seymour ("Lenin" at Lenin's Tomb blog) weighs in on Miley Cyrus:

    Clap On, Clap Off, The Clapper!

    by ActivistGuy on Thu Aug 29, 2013 at 05:10:05 AM PDT

  •  We Are Not a Culture or a Nation. We're a Market. (4+ / 0-)
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    We focus on issues from among what the vendors manufacture and distribute to us.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Thu Aug 29, 2013 at 05:19:45 AM PDT

  •  what was outrageous to me (3+ / 0-)
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    is miley just couldn't twerk.

    Britney, she'd have tore it up.

    Miley? Gurl, no. All of the no.

    Dawkins is to atheism as Rand is to personal responsibility- mperiousRex.

    by terrypinder on Thu Aug 29, 2013 at 05:32:21 AM PDT

    •  She's just not hot. (1+ / 0-)
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      If she were, this would be controversial but most people would admit she looked great and helped her own career. Sometimes child actors grow up to be hot, sometimes not. Neither her face nor her body is cut out for this kind of work (hypersexual performance in skin-tight garb). Unfortunately, she also doesn't have a good enough voice to wear a pair of blue jeans and sing along with an acoustic guitar. My guess is that she will continue to try to shock her audience, since shock value is all she has, until her performances are so full of nip slips and upskirts that her performances will no longer be legal outside of the state of Nevada or the city of Tampa.

    •  LOL!! (1+ / 0-)
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      So true.

      If she had truly dropped it like its hot, instead of outrage every soccer mom would be trying to do it the next day.

      •  haha (0+ / 0-)

        those soccer moms are going to try to drop it like it's hot even while they tut tut.

        i mean they still say things like "holla!" and "bling-bling!"

        We never should have let the people of ecru and salmon get their hands on those. ;)

        Dawkins is to atheism as Rand is to personal responsibility- mperiousRex.

        by terrypinder on Thu Aug 29, 2013 at 08:21:46 AM PDT

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  •  This is all a distraction from Syria. (0+ / 0-)

    Or Rihanna. Or maybe Madonna.

    One of those one-name girls, anyway.

    The thing about quotes on the internet is you cannot confirm their validity. ~Abraham Lincoln

    by raboof on Thu Aug 29, 2013 at 05:35:52 AM PDT

  •  When Lady Gaga does it.. (2+ / 0-)
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    it does not bother me. Yes, there are times when Gaga does it and you can tell , ok, i think you wont look back on itt fondly and there was overreach on shock for shock's sake, but overall Gaga brings it as a package and you take the good with the occasionally bad. With Miley, I was just plain embarrassed for her. She looked awkwarded, desperate, and pathetic.

    Madonna reached that point when she did the Britney and Aguilera kiss. It looked a little too desperate for attention, but then Madonna has accumulated so much cred and Britney's charisma also helped make it not look as cringeworthy.

    But for me, the real sad thing is how the news channels keep playing this stuff but will take the pains to blur out a nipple or an F word while showing footage of a regular news incident.

  •  You Put Your (Big Foam) Finger On It (4+ / 0-)
    Yep. I'm reminded of a joke about a woman who complained about the local teenage boys skinny-dipping in the river near her house. The police had a chat with the boys, and they moved a half-mile downstream.

    The police got another call within an hour. They sent a cruiser to see if the boys had returned, but they were still at the new location.

    The police called back, "Ma'am, we've confirmed that these boys are now half a mile away from your house. You can't possibly be seeing anything."

    "Yes I can, with my telescope!"

    On the Internet, nobody knows if you're a dog... but everybody knows if you're a jackass.

    by stevemb on Thu Aug 29, 2013 at 06:43:29 AM PDT

  •  Madonna had talent, Miley is the creation of..... (1+ / 0-)
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    ... a corporate, focus group derived approximation of what a "singing star" is supposed to be. And now off on her own, the pathetic vaporous truth of marketing propaganda creations comes through loud and clear.

    Corporate America has all but destroyed what was the music industry. Look at the fantastic concentration of talent and genius in the 60's and 70's and then watch the decline of music quality over the last 30 years.

    Yet again, corporate capitalism has fucked up all that is good, like the Borg trying to assimilate and make something "better" and yet really only fucking it all up.

    It is sad, and her effort to re-capture the false glory that was the propaganda creation will lead her to failure, disaster, and personal destruction.

    Miley, go to school and learn to be a real person, and find something you are actually good at and enjoy, because the professional celebrity thing ain't gonna work out.

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