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The old McCain seem to be peeking his head out of the morass of the half decade long willful ignorance of his Party. This is bad when he supports military action against Syria that will likely fail and pull America into a quagmire. One would hope that hawkish McCain would stay away.

It was however refreshing when McCain forcefully pushed back on Fox News’ Kilmeade who said he had a problem helping Syrian rebels who after shooting down a Syrian army aircraft, shouted “Allahu Akbar”. McCain’s response was a classic. He said, “Would you have a problem with American Christians saying, ‘Thank God, thank God’? That’s what they’re saying. Come on. Of course, they are Muslims, but they are moderates. And I guarantee you that they are moderates. ... For someone to say Allahu Akbar is about as offensive as someone saying Thank God”.

If more Republicans, Democrats, and others would enlighten Americans about Islam as just another religion with good and bad just as is the Christian religion, then the unnecessary fear by many Christians would be mitigated. Rest assured most Muslims are quite enlightened about Christianity.

One must not forget that within the Christian history of yesteryear there was the Inquisition. One should not forget that the turmoil throughout Christianityis not unlike what Muslims are going through.  One should not also forget that much of America’s domestic terrorism is at the hands of very Right Wing purported evangelical Christians (e.g, Abortion doctor killer Scott Roeder, and Oklahoma bomber Timothy McVeigh).

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  •  Somehow, I don't think McCain knows what he's (2+ / 0-)
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    Matt Z, tampaedski

    talking about when he says:

    Come on. Of course, they are Muslims, but they are moderates. And I guarantee you that they are moderates.
    This blogger, at least, seems to question McCain's judgment:
    Mr. ‘Take Charge’ McCain decided to go to Syria and have a firsthand meeting with the rebels. Unfortunately for John McCain, he was photographed with two alleged terrorists.

    "Trust me... I've been right before." ~ Tea party patriot

    by Calvino Partigiani on Tue Sep 03, 2013 at 06:34:49 PM PDT

  •  I'd have to vote no (1+ / 0-)
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    Calvino Partigiani

    There is no "old" McCain.  Just a grumpy, petulant crybaby who sits and says "no" to whomever just beat him:  George W, Barack Obama, whatever.

    He slapped down the idiot on Fox because McCain doesn't want anything getting in the way of more bombing.

    These people are truly horrible.

    •  Remember, he also slapped down the women (2+ / 0-)
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      JDsg, DrPlacebo

      at one of his town halls who said that Obama was a Moslem.

      I think his natural tendency  on matters like this is to do the right thing. In other matters, politics get in his way.

      It’s the Supreme Court, stupid! Followed by: It's always the Supreme Court! Progressives will win only when we convince a majority that they, too, are Progressive.

      by auapplemac on Tue Sep 03, 2013 at 07:38:53 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Slapping down over-the-top rhetoric (0+ / 0-)

        is easy and wins political points with everyone except the most extreme right-wingers. But whether McCain is really willing to buck his party on substance -- and we're talking about votes in the Senate -- is a different question.

  •  THAT'S GREAT NEWS!!!FOR JOHN McCAIN!!!!!1!!!111!!! (1+ / 0-)
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    I think that I'm fscking losing it.... :b

    "If this Studebaker had anymore Atomic Space-Age Style, you'd have to be an astronaut with a geiger counter!"

    by Stude Dude on Tue Sep 03, 2013 at 06:49:38 PM PDT

  •  McCain's not a bigot regarding Muslims. (1+ / 0-)
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    But he still talks to his vegetables.

    -4.75, -5.33 Cheney 10/05/04: "I have not suggested there is a connection between Iraq and 9/11."

    by sunbro on Tue Sep 03, 2013 at 06:56:54 PM PDT

  •  Nah, he just has a hard-on for war... (0+ / 0-)

    “I will be far more aggressive in my reporting from now. I am going to publish many more documents. I have many more documents on England’s spy system. I think they will be sorry for what they did.” -G.Greenwald

    by Jacoby Jonze on Tue Sep 03, 2013 at 07:08:24 PM PDT

  •  McCain's always been a jekyl and hyde (0+ / 0-)

    Unfortunately, if he chooses to run again in 2016, expect him to start steering back towards lunacy sometime in early 2015.

    Fortunately, I highly suspect he'll end his career, and given Arizona's demographics, it's highly likely we'll get his seat. Carmona lost to Flake by a couple points, after all.

  •  He was playing poker during the hearings today. (0+ / 0-)

    I would say wholeheartedly, the old John McCain is baaaack!!!!

  •  Alla you Fox Spews idiots (1+ / 0-)
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    offa my lawn!

    "Fascism is attracting the dregs of humanity- people with a slovenly biography - sadists, mental freaks, traitors." - ILYA EHRENBURG

    by durrati on Tue Sep 03, 2013 at 07:47:31 PM PDT

  •  My apologies to McCain (0+ / 0-)

    Based on an earlier diary which did not make the context entirely clear I missed the "just like" phrase in his comment. I still think he does not entirely understand the significance and the use could have a number of interpretations from Fox's interpretation as a battlecry to a form of blessing on those killed by the aircraft or even for the pilot (in the same way that war dead in the West are afforded proper funeral rites if possible).

    Literally "God is greater/greatest" depending on your translation closer transliteration is "God Almighty" which in a Christian context has a number of different uses. Allahu Akhbar also used as a short form of the litany "there is no god but Allah and Mohammed is his messenger" which is both the expression of faith (to convert to Islam you recite it preceeded by "I declare") and the last words a devout Muslim would wish to utter.

    I suppose I should also be fair to Fox and say in the context the interpretation as a victory cry is probably right even if their automatic association of the term with "Al Qaeda" is very wrong.

    We will work, we will play, we will laugh, we will live. We will not waste one moment, nor sacrifice one bit of our freedom, because of fear.

    by Lib Dem FoP on Tue Sep 03, 2013 at 09:31:28 PM PDT

    •  "allahu Akbar" is used in the call to prayer (0+ / 0-)

      As well as the prayer itself. So it's not just a war cry. But yeah, it's much more complex than what McCain says—but at the same time, his sentiment isn't entirely wrong, either. In a similar situation, many Christians might say "Thank God" or "Glory be" or something along those lines.

  •  a new kind of mccarthyism (0+ / 0-)

        In her now-infamous interview of Reza Aslan (July 26, Fox News) Lauren Green raised the absurd suggestion that Mr. Aslan, an accomplished Biblical scholar, was disqualified from writing about Christianity due to his Islamic faith.  She has since been the butt of mockery for her arrogant bigotry, and rightly so.  After all, religious adherence is not required for objective, academic study of religion.  Adherence is, however, required for the religious study of religion; a pursuit which, by definition, is not objective.  A reasonable argument can be made that professors in universities have more reliable knowledge of religions than the priests, rabbis and imams who are held as the experts.  However, to dismiss the adherent’s knowledge as biased is absurd.  Religion IS bias.  It is I who know what I believe and practice as a Muslim, not some professor.  Religious studies are like anthropology or zoology.  It cannot be done from the classroom. You must spend time with your subjects.  

    However, to dismiss the adherent’s knowledge as biased is absurd.  Religion IS bias.  
    A bizarre and ugly phenomenon has erupted and spread since Sept 11.  It is a body of anti-Islamic pseudo-knowledge.  Its pseudo-experts are as biased and religiously motivated as any clergy.  Yet their pseudo-intellectual pursuits occur in a Muslim-free vacuum; a closed, removed environment akin to the university.  Thus it is the worst of both worlds, a freaky offspring.  There is no better example of it than Andrew C McCarthy’s article Thank God for McCain -- Allahu Akbar! (National Review Online, 9/3/13).  In it, Mr. McCarthy calls Senator John McCain “moronic” for McCain’s assertion that the phrase “Allahu Akbar” is used by moderate Muslims, and that it is similar to saying “Thank God.”  In a radio interview (Mark Levin, 9/3/13), he went on to snicker about McCain’s “ignorance.”  Thus we are through the looking glass, as McCain’s description of the phrase was close to reality and McCarthy’s was stunningly ignorant.  

    Andrew C McCarthy has written two books about Islam but does not know any Muslims.  If he had even a casual Muslim acquaintance, he would have an understanding of the phrase “Allahu Akbar”.  He basically makes two assertions about it: That it is used by extremists in violent situations, and that it essentially means “my god is greater than your god.”  Yes it is used by extremists.  It is also yelled by soccer fans after a goal.  It is also said by every Muslim multiple times per day in multiple situations, including prayer.  In fact, five times per day during prayer, the Muslim may not move until he says it.  It is that essential to the religion.

    Five times per day during prayer, the Muslim may not move until he says it.
    Mr. McCarthy’s second assertion is just as silly.  Prophet Mohammed (saaw)* did not rise to power in opposition to Christians or Jews.  His problem, like that of Moses, Abraham and Jesus before him (saaw)*, was polytheistic paganism.  “Allah” is not a proper name.  Proper names are used to distinguish like things.  “Al” is Arabic for “The” (E.g.  Al-Jazeera, Al-Quaida).  “Allah,” meaning THE God, is a phrase; a statement of monotheism.  The first rule of Islam is to swear the following:  There is no god but THE God, and Mohammed is His Prophet.  Thus, there is no concept of my god or your god in Islam, and no such implication with Allahu Akbar.
    “Allah” is not a proper name.  “Allah,” meaning THE God, is a phrase; a statement of monotheism.  T
    Allahu Akbar essentially means Allah is the greatest.  It is testimony that there is no higher authority: not our desires, our families, our nations.  Not wealth, celebrity or any other false idol.  Take it from me; I’m a Muslim.

    Saleh R Shahid

    *  SAAW is a commonly used abbreviation for an Arabic phrase which means “May peace be upon him.”  It is Islamic etiquette when using the name of a prophet.  

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