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Myia Young, 4, places a candle by an American flag during a vigil for victims behind a theater where a gunman open fire at moviegoers in Aurora, Colorado July 20, 2012. A total of 71 people were shot in Friday's rampage at the Denver-area movie theater that has left 12 people dead, the local police chief said. REUTERS/ Jeremy Papasso
The NRA may be indifferent, but we can't have more of these.
Some smattering of news from the Rocky Mountain Recalls. First up, the NRA is doubling down:
The NRA is increasing financial support with $250,000 to try to recall two Colorado Democratic lawmakers who voted for new gun restrictions this year.
A campaign finance report released Tuesday covering Aug. 23 to Aug. 29 shows the NRA's new contribution to the races. The organization's total contribution so far is about $361,700.
Goal ThermometerThe Daily Kos community is at around $270K for the two recall targets, state Sen. Majority Leader John Morse and state Sen. Angela Giron. It sure would be nice if we could keep pace!

Also from that story:

According to the latest filings, Pueblo United for Angela has raised $825,400. That's an increase of $239,400 from the reports released last week. A Whole Lot of People for John Morse has raised $658,230, up about $52,000 from last week's report.
Multiple sources on the ground have told me that while polling remains tight and uncertain given the late-summer election without vote-by-mail (making the crafting of a likely voter screen something of a crapshoot), Morse is actually in better shape than Giron. These fundraising numbers would seem to confirm that—with money moving more heavily toward Giron in the closing weeks.

But if Giron is the one in trouble, it's not showing up in the early vote:

Democrats are out-voting Republicans in the recall election of state Sen. Angela Giron, D-Pueblo, by nearly a 3-to-1 margin, according to voter tallies after the first three days of early voting.

Pueblo County Clerk Gilbert “Bo” Ortiz said that 2,690 voters had cast ballots in the Sept. 10 special election as of 3 p.m. Tuesday.

At that time, 1,668 Democrats had voted in the special election compared with 599 Republicans. The remaining 423 votes came from independents and minor party voters.

In 2010, Giron's district generated about 45,000 votes. It was an off-year election, where turnout is depressed. In 2012, that district generated nearly 66,000 votes in the presidential contest.

We can assume turnout will be lower than both those years, but regardless, that early vote will likely be around just 5-10 percent of the total. So a good sign, no doubt, and better than trailing 3-1 at this point. But still too early to pop the champagne. (Not that anyone was.)

So let's close strong and match the NRA's spending on this race. Join the 11,000+ of Daily Kos community members who have already chipped in and let's help our allies on the ground deliver another stinging defeat to the NRA.

Originally posted to kos on Wed Sep 04, 2013 at 10:45 AM PDT.

Also republished by Shut Down the NRA, Firearms Law and Policy, and Daily Kos.

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  •  GOTV (15+ / 0-)
    To ensure we defeat anti-Second Amendment State Senators John Morse and Angela Giron in their recall elections on September 10th, we need your help!  Learn how you can get actively involved in our efforts to recall Sens. Morse and Giron at one of our free NRA-ILA Grassroots Workshops.

    At these meetings, NRA-ILA staff and guest speakers will lay out our plans to recall John Morse and Angela Giron from the State Senate, and discuss how you can become even more involved with our efforts.  You will also get to meet your NRA-ILA Campaign Field Representative Dennis Rhodes, who is working in the Colorado Springs and Pueblo areas to recall John Morse and Angela Giron.

    These meetings are absolutely free and dinner will be provided.  Please make plans to attend and encourage your fellow NRA members to attend as well.

    Here are the details:

    Tuesday September 3rd, 2013

    no such thing as a free dinner

    Warning - some snark may be above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ eState4Column5©2013 "I’m not the strapping young Muslim socialist that I used to be" - Barack Obama 04/27/2013

    by annieli on Wed Sep 04, 2013 at 10:53:02 AM PDT

    •  Here's the kind of Letter to the Editor the... (5+ / 0-)

      ...Chieftain tends to publish.

      Today's only LTE.

      A snippet:

      Our home telephone rings incessantly with nothing but political calls from both sides. And now, we have the pinhead mayor of New York, who wants to tell Americans how they should manage their diets, pumping hundreds of thousands of dollars into an election that is totally meaningless to anyone outside Pueblo County (and maybe meaningless here).
      Having Bloomberg dump a bunch of money into this race is an outrage. The NRA dumping a bunch of money into the race, not so much.

      All that being said, GOTV is all that matters in both these races.

      The Quinnipiac poll from last week shows that, even including the red rural areas of Colorado, voters disapprove of this recall and believe the issue should be handled during the next general election. Even with opposition to their gun votes, the poll tells us that voters don't agree with the recall.

      That means that, from a purely statistical standpoint, if the D's just get a shitload of people to the polls, they'll win. You know damn well that every freakin' Yosemite Sam with a gun rack will show up and vote to kick out them damn libruls! Thus, if the D and I turnout is low, the recalls will pass. If the overall turnout is high, the recalls will fail.

      The Democrats and their big pocket ad buyers are spending a ton of money defending themselves, and attacking their opponents. All they really need to do is spend a bunch of money getting people to the polls.

      Giron and Morse need to start running ads showing folks how easy it is to vote, where the polling places are, and how simple the ballot is:

      "This is the easiest, fastest ballot you'll ever fill out, so make a quick trip to your closest convenient polling place and cast your ballot. It's what we Americans do!"

      They don't even need to suggest how to vote, statistically, if a bunch of people vote, the recall will fail. Just get a bunch of folks to vote...Win!


      "Politeness is wasted on the dishonest, who will always take advantage of any well-intended concession." - Barrett Brown

      by 3rdOption on Wed Sep 04, 2013 at 12:28:44 PM PDT

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  •  Fair's fair (3+ / 0-)
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    Theoleman, ER Doc, KVoimakas

    I gave Markos a hard time on the last diary for being just this side of hate-mongering, so since this one is straightforward and informative, it only seems proper to tip it as such.

  •  Chipped in (again) this morning (8+ / 0-)

    Good to see that early voting is possible and some Democrats are on it, what with the mail-in ballot mess. Happy to help GOTV!

    Guns don't kill people. It's impossible to be killed by a gun. We are all invincible to bullets, and it's a miracle. -- this message brought to you by the Night Vale chapter of the N.R.A.

    by tytalus on Wed Sep 04, 2013 at 11:00:08 AM PDT

  •  If the recall is decisively defeated (14+ / 0-)

    It will be a very nice chunk out of the NRA's ass, and a significant deposit towards it's future irrelevance.

    Imagine the most profound idea ever conceptualized occupying this space. Now expect exactly the opposite. You'll never be disappointed.

    by Gurnt on Wed Sep 04, 2013 at 11:11:20 AM PDT

    •  It might seem irrelevant to many, but that (4+ / 0-)
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      tytalus, 3rdOption, ColoTim, a2nite

      doesn't and won't stop it from being a powerfully negative force in our society through its meddling in elections and its lobbying on legislation.

      The NRA is not going away any time soon.

      That's one more thing to add to my long list of small problems. --my son, age 10

      by concernedamerican on Wed Sep 04, 2013 at 11:25:53 AM PDT

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      •  I dunno..... (10+ / 0-)

        once the haters on gay marriage were finally beaten at the ballot box and in court, it seems like their effectiveness swirled down the toilet.

        No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible.

        by Magster on Wed Sep 04, 2013 at 11:35:18 AM PDT

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        •  It may take some time (10+ / 0-)

          before we are routinely defeating the NRA, and today's it's the ballot box, tomorrow another court case. It may take a long series of defeats to overcome their hype. But I have no problem committing to fight and defeat the NRA over and over. It's a good cause.  :)

          Guns don't kill people. It's impossible to be killed by a gun. We are all invincible to bullets, and it's a miracle. -- this message brought to you by the Night Vale chapter of the N.R.A.

          by tytalus on Wed Sep 04, 2013 at 11:44:22 AM PDT

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          •  Or maybe....just maybe, it's not the NRA. (0+ / 0-)

            Maybe people actually don't think that innocent Americans should lose their liberties because of the acts of a murderer.

            Maybe people don't think that banning an object that is used in less than half the murders than even bare hands are is a reasonable response.

            Perhaps that would explain why support for gun rights has increased for the past 20 years, while support for gun control has waned.

            Perhaps that is why we are talking about two recall elections of Democrats (the first two in the entirety of Colorado's history) despite the NRA only spending $985 to the recall petition.

            But then again maybe the NRA is simply the most powerful/powerless, wealthy/poor, mind-controlling boogeyman ever witnessed by mortal man.

            Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

            by FrankRose on Wed Sep 04, 2013 at 06:00:03 PM PDT

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            •  -_- (1+ / 0-)
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              No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible.

              by Magster on Wed Sep 04, 2013 at 06:15:14 PM PDT

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            •  Your bare hands comment shows you can't (3+ / 0-)
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              tytalus, LilithGardener, coquiero

              even read a chart.  Pick a year, any year.  8-9 times the number of murders committed by hands are committed with hand guns.  Oh, wait, are you trying to say that you were referring to assault weapons?   And that a person killed by a handgun instead of an assault weapon doesn't matter?  Tell that to their family.  Tell that to loved ones.  Tell that to witnesses to the death who will be scarred for life by it.  Are you saying that there's no way that guns in the "type not stated" category somehow means that they know the weapons aren't assault weapons?  That category also far exceeds deaths caused by hands.

              Pick any year.  Murders by guns far exceeds murders by any other source.  2/3rds of all murders are committed by some type of gun.  That's what that chart shows - if you could somehow read what's on the page.

              There is no Constitutional right to unlimited guns for everyone.  The Constitution says that realizing a regulated militia is important (at the time when the country didn't have a standing army like we do now) the right to keep and bear arms may not be infringed (I may have the wording slightly off, but at least I'm recognizing the importance of having gun bearers need to be well regulated so they can be in a militia when needed - not any and everyone who can lift a gun and pull a trigger must be allowed to have guns.  And also don't get me started on multiple round magazines - they weren't in existence when the Constitution was written so screw the idea that somehow 100 round magazines were intended for civilian use by the Founding Fathers.  James Holmes loves your logic.

              I find it sick.

              •  AWB doesn't ban 'all guns' (0+ / 0-)

                It merely bans a subset of rifles.
                2011
                Rifles: 323
                Personal weapons (hands, fists, feet, etc.): 728.

                Is there an 'all guns ban' I was unaware of, or are completely unable to read a comment?

                "they weren't in existence"
                Neither was the internet or Mormonism.
                Does the Constitutional right to a free press & freedom of religion extend to them?

                Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

                by FrankRose on Wed Sep 04, 2013 at 07:02:29 PM PDT

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                •  Type Not Stated: 1587 (3+ / 0-)
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                  Not a chance any of those were Assault Weapons, especially with how hard the Guns for All crowd keep trying to muddy what is or is not an Assault Weapon?

                  And again - are murders by other guns to be ignored?  What Colorado has done is close the gun show loophole so that all gun sales are to be verified by a background check and no magazines larger than 10 rounds.  No AWB at the federal or Colorado state level.  But we must definitely not infringe upon anyone's right to carry a gun.

                  Regulations apply to the Internet (plenty of adult sites have been prosecuted for the videos, both for underage porn and for snuff videos, amongst many other things) and regulations apply to the Mormon Church - they had to renounce polygamy before they were allowed to have Utah join the Union.  Why must regulations not be applied to guns and magazines?

                  •  "Type not stated"? (0+ / 0-)

                    That is your answer?
                    Never mind that Assault Weapons are merely a fraction of all rifles:
                    You are trying to use 'weapons not stated' to 'prove' your point.
                    Great argument. Really.

                    "Regulations apply to the Internet"
                    No one said any differently.
                    But you didn't answer the question presented:
                    Does the Constitution protect Mormonism & the Internet, even though "they weren't in existence when the Constitution was written"?

                    But let us move on & let's just make this easy: Exactly how many liberties must innocent Americans surrender so that Timmy can finally manage to feel safe while living in the USA?
                    Do be specific.

                    Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

                    by FrankRose on Wed Sep 04, 2013 at 08:44:30 PM PDT

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              •  LOL - who knew a gun kill involves a hand?! nt (1+ / 0-)
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                "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

                by LilithGardener on Thu Sep 05, 2013 at 08:14:34 AM PDT

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          •  Hundreds of laws have been challenged and are (0+ / 0-)

            percolating up to SCOTUS. The vast majority are being upheld. I'm with you for the long hall.

            The "Don't talk about guns" meme is finished whether we advocate for change or sit passively by, so we might as well just convince others to join us and get to work dealing with it.

            "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

            by LilithGardener on Thu Sep 05, 2013 at 08:13:35 AM PDT

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        •  Well, let's be fair (8+ / 0-)

          We have thirteen and a half states plus DC for marriage equality so far, and somewhat reasonable handgun laws in about the same number. We have pretty good momentum on both issues, but victory is not at hand on either issue.

          Public opinion is much more against the NRA and GOA than against the marriage bigots, but the NRA has reliable funding from the gun industry, and doesn't care about public opinion.

          Both issues are at multiple tipping points, more and more of which are tipping our way. Now, if the Republican Party would just implode and go away, that would be different. Or if the Religious Right or any of the Tea Party factions meant its threat to break off and form a third party.

          Ceterem censeo, gerrymandra delenda est

          by Mokurai on Wed Sep 04, 2013 at 12:16:56 PM PDT

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          •  Where do you draw your line? (1+ / 0-)
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            FrankRose

            Gallup polls from early 2013 (post-Newtown). I could not find any NRA-specific polls in the past few months.

            NRA approval rating: 54%
            Favoring same-sex marriage: 53%
            Obama approval rating: 52%

            Just saying that if you are going to equate the legitimacy of an item with its public approval rating, check the ratings first.

            Yes, the popularity of stuff waxes and wanes, but the assumption that public opinion for or against something has anything to do with its legitimacy is flawed. Otherwise, 20 years ago you would have been against same-sex marriage, 50 years ago you would have been against interracial marriage and 100 years ago you would have been against letting women vote.

            And if we based legitimacy on popularity today, we'd all be waiting on President Grumpy Cat's decision on Syria...

            Now, if the Republican Party would just implode and go away
            Show me a one-party state anywhere that has turned out well, and then we'll talk.
      •  We CAN defeat the NRA (10+ / 0-)

        their entire power comes from the perception of electoral dominance. With Bloomberg and Giffords on the pro-regulation side already balancing things out, it becomes harder for the NRA to dominate the issue. And if the NRA can't deliver electoral defeats in gun country, then they're through.

        Sure, they'll have an effect, but it'll be proportionate to the size of their membership and budget. Right now, they're WAY disproportionately powerful.

  •  Dem #s for Giron encouraging (12+ / 0-)

    I was out canvassing for her a couple of weeks ago, and most of the folks I spoke with didn't know much about the recall.

    With no mail-in ballot option (which has increased in popularity here in Colorado) I was concerned about getting folks to the poll.

    Netroots Nation July 17-20, 2014, Detroit, MI. Register Now!

    by BCO gal on Wed Sep 04, 2013 at 11:42:17 AM PDT

  •  Punching the bully in the nose... (8+ / 0-)

    ...is how I look at this.  For far too long the NRA has been able to make red and purple-state Democrats cower,  especially in mid-year elections.  The NRA Board has made it clear that they like being the bully on the block, and like being able to punish anyone who backs any legislation whatsoever that can result in fewer firearm sales.

    Defeating the Giron and Morse recalls will knock the bully down, by sending a message that red and purple-state Dems do not have to decide between doing the right thing, and having their political career ended by an influx of NRA election-spending.

     

  •  Saw a bumper sticker...NRA Stand and Fight (6+ / 0-)

    This is my response. Contributed.

    “I guess we hunted the dildo into extinction..." Jonathan Mann, CNN host during a segment on climate change and global warming recently.

    by wild hair on Wed Sep 04, 2013 at 11:55:58 AM PDT

  •  Gun laws are going to be a factor in races in 2014 (9+ / 0-)

    Do you know your state's firearms laws?

    Firearms Law and Policy published our first diary last week. We are planning to walk all across the country, state-by-state, and will dedicate a diary to a survey of each state's gun laws. Sound interesting?

    If you would like to write about gun laws in your state please send a Kosmail to LilithGardener.

    Introducing a new Group: Firearms Law and Policy - Glossary of Resources

    Please drop by, say hello, and check out our Glossary of great links to law and policy resources.

    To join and write for us Kosmail LilithGardener.

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    To advocate effectively for repeal or passage of firearms legislation we must first know and understand current law and policy, and how both are implemented, where we live. There is enormous variability across the country; the relative utility/relative risk of firearms is different on a 500 acre ranch in Montana than for a 1000 square foot apartment in New York. State and local laws reflect that diversity. We will discuss firearms law and policy with an emphasis on the many historical ethics and ideals of Western Civilization, as opposed to what are currently known as "Libertarian" ideals.

    This group is also a study group; a place to learn and discuss which gun regulations are constitutional restrictions in this post-Heller environment. (A law degree is not required). With Congressional gridlock likely to impede any useful national legislation, progress will have to be made at the state and local level.
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    "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

    by LilithGardener on Wed Sep 04, 2013 at 11:58:03 AM PDT

  •  Phone bank via Moms Demand Action (8+ / 0-)

    for Gun Sense in America...think you may need FB for this.  

    "What's happening in Colorado right now is infuriating.

    After the tragedies in Newtown and Aurora, Colorado legislators passed landmark gun safety legislation, including background checks and magazine size limits.

    Two of the leaders of that effort - State Senators John Morse and Angela Giron - are now the targets of the first ever recall elections in Colorado. The NRA was unwilling to wait even until the next election to try to remove these two brave legislators from office as punishment for supporting commonsense gun reform legislation.

    Even though you're not in Colorado, what's happening there will have an effect on your family's safety.

    If the NRA succeeds in these Colorado recall elections, it will have a chilling effect on legislators all across the country who may be willing to stand up for gun sense.

    Moms Demand Action members in Colorado are standing up for these leaders, letting them and all legislators know that Moms stand with the people who stand for the safety of our families.

    You can do two things today to help:

    1. Make 10 phone calls from your own phone to Colorado voters, reminding them to vote in the recall election next Tuesday. Click here get started!
    http://moms.amicushq.com/...

    2. Forward this message to anyone you know who might have 15 minutes to make calls and an interest in making a difference for gun sense in America.

    Thank you for all you do.

    Sincerely,

    Aimee Tavares
    National Field Director, Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense In America"

  •  ya know (7+ / 0-)

    from my past experience the Dems in Pueblo have a pretty good ground game...another thought...

    As I believe irony is the fulcrum of our lives.. it is possible that the big NRA push could backfire...maybe CHS is distant.. but Aurora is still fresh..I know that the NRA (and our own GOP Sec of State) want this badly..It should not be assumed that because a person is a registered GOP'er  does not mean they support this...

    The big question will be Indy's ...CO has a bunch.. not sure what Pueblo Stats.. are..

    We gave another $10 today...

    ashes..ashes  we all fall down..

  •  Nature vs. Nurture? Are Guns in the Blood? (1+ / 0-)
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    Firearms Law and Policy published our second diary, Nature vs Nurture: Are Guns in the Blood? by BadKitties who hails from the great state of Colorado!

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    "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

    by LilithGardener on Wed Sep 04, 2013 at 05:18:26 PM PDT

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