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Pie chart showing approval/disapproval for Obamacare along with bar chart showing support/opposition to GOP sabotage efforts.
The public is still confused about exactly what Obamacare is going to mean for them, and still divided in their opinion about it, but there's only one bloc of the public that thinks Republican sabotage of it is a good thing: a small minority of Republicans who self-identify as tea party. That's according to the latest polling from the Pew Research Center and USA TODAY.

Fifty-three percent of respondents disapprove of the law, while 42 percent approve, and uninsured voters are almost evenly divided, 49 percent approve, 46 percent disapprove. But only 23 percent of voters think Republicans “should do what they can to make the law fail.”

Fewer than half of all Republicans and Republican leaners (43%) want elected officials who oppose the law to do what they can to make it fail; 37% say they should try to make it work as well as possible.

However,  64% of Tea Party Republicans oppose the law and want elected officials to do what they can to make it fail. By comparison, just 31% of Republicans and Republican leaners who do not agree with the Tea Party favor this approach.

Guess who's in control of the Republican Party?

That's just 23 percent of voters—less than half of all Republicans and leaners—who endorse the current "shut it down" policy Senate extremists are pushing and House leadership seems unable to resist. That's because just 23 percent of the public, has far too many representatives in the House, allowing the extremist to hold the entire country hostage.

Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Mon Sep 16, 2013 at 09:52 AM PDT.

Also republished by Daily Kos.

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  •  Tip Jar (28+ / 0-)

    "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. [...] There would be no place to hide."--Frank Church

    by Joan McCarter on Mon Sep 16, 2013 at 09:52:19 AM PDT

  •  The decision to put the Tea Party in charge (8+ / 0-)

    may end up exacting a greater political cost to the Republicans in the long term than Bush's failed policies ever did.

    And a great deal of it can be traced backed to the Palin candidacy.  Thanks John McCain!

  •  For those 23% of voters (3+ / 0-)
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    HappyinNM, Matt Z, JBraden

    Work to straight them out.  Get their minds back to normal health.

    •  Or wait until they die, aging out (3+ / 0-)
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      HappyinNM, Sherri in TX, Matt Z

      with no insurance.

      If I ran this circus, things would be DIFFERENT!

      by CwV on Mon Sep 16, 2013 at 10:03:48 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Don't waste time and energy on them (1+ / 0-)
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      JerryNA

      they are lost causes, and pursuing their support will only, can only, lead to the Dems continuing their own rightward sprint in order to find "common ground" with wingnuts.  Look, there's almost 50% of the population that has tuned out the political establishment, and frankly, by being so devoted to establishmentarian doctrines, the Dems have hurt themselves in their last couple of administrations.  But those people are still far more worth pursuing than the 23%.

      Clap On, Clap Off, The Clapper!

      by ActivistGuy on Mon Sep 16, 2013 at 11:47:58 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Something that gets left out of (14+ / 0-)

    many of these discussions is that a good portion of those who oppose the PPACA oppose it because it is not progressive enough; we need better health insurance reform, such as expanding Medicare to those of us ages 0-64.

    Doubt that many Americans approve of the old ways of the health insurance industry, where they they can abuse their policyholders in myriad ways.

    This shirt is dry clean only. Which means... it's dirty. -- Mitch Hedberg

    by Greasy Grant on Mon Sep 16, 2013 at 10:14:44 AM PDT

  •  If you add those who disapprove because... (9+ / 0-)

    ...Obamacare does not go far enough (probably the growing Single Payer supporters) to those who approve you probably get a majority.

    The key is to get supporters of Obamacare to understand that it is a step in the direction of Single Payer and work  together to get things done. Harry Reid and the AFL-CIO have said so recently among many others.

    Daily Kos an oasis of truth. Truth that leads to action.

    by Shockwave on Mon Sep 16, 2013 at 10:17:15 AM PDT

    •  Just posted this above (1+ / 0-)
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      Shockwave

      According to a CNN poll back in May, you do get a 59% probability for the support/expand caucus: http://www.dailykos.com/...

      But most reporting is willfully ignorant of that fact.

    •  No it isn't (1+ / 0-)
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      TJ

      actually it seals up health care forever as a private-for-profit system.  Is it better than the system's "pre-existing cndition"?  No doubt.  But to believe it somehow opens the door to single payer, or even a public option, is foolish self-delusion.  It is what it is, and to imagine it being anything other than  a Heritage Foundation plan is simply what the Heritage Foundation deliberately designed the program to preclude.

      Clap On, Clap Off, The Clapper!

      by ActivistGuy on Mon Sep 16, 2013 at 11:53:49 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  It is not delusional to think Obamacare (1+ / 0-)
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        Shockwave

        could eventually lead to a single-payer system - or at least something much closer than Obamacare.  Switzerland has had a system based on for-profit insurance for decades.  The country has, over the years, added layers of regulation to the companies offering coverage until now they are more tightly regulated to assure the outcome and coverage the country wants than our government could ever dream of.

        In spite of this tightly regulated market Switzerland spends more on health care than any other EU country offering universal coverage, and in recent years that cost is affecting the country's economic development and becoming a worry to the members of the country's Federal Assembly.  Some of the members are now considering other systems for universal coverage including single-payer systems.

        So a single-payer system could eventually evolve from Obamacare.  It may take decades, however, and we all may be dead before that evolutionary change takes place.

        "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

        by SueDe on Mon Sep 16, 2013 at 10:08:19 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  NM, even with a Repuke governor, has opted (8+ / 0-)

    into the exchanges and expanded Medicaid. On Saturday I went to a meeting in which Medicaid was explained. Presently, Medicaid is farmed out to 7 different insurance companies, something that happened during the Richardson administration. Now, there will just be 4 insurance companies. They are Presbyterian, Blue Cross/Blue Shield, United Health Care, and Molina. A person from each gave a presentation on the "extras" their company offers.

    The propaganda must be excellent, because the fear of this change was palpable. And, as explained, it's pretty straight-forward. Present Medicaid recipients will receive a letter telling them to be on the lookout for an orange envelope. That envelope will explain their choices and what they have to do once they make a choice. If they don't choose, they will be assigned a company. Open enrollment is between Oct 15 and December 2.

    The new name for the program is Centennial, and all the information is on their website, both for Medicaid and the exchanges.

    I know there will be glitches. There always are. But it seems they've got it under control, and are ready to roll.

    This is important: Obamacare is for people who don't have insurance OR access to insurance, like through a spouse's employer's plan. Hopefully, over time, the OR part will be changed.

  •  Huge racial gap over support/opposition (4+ / 0-)
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    cocinero, deepeco, Matt Z, Whatithink

    to the law.  91% of Blacks approve, 61% of Latinos, but just 29% of Whites.  That's a 62 point difference between Blacks and Whites over perceptions of the law, and a 42 point gap between Latinos and Whites.

    As for why exactly that is the case, that's a topic I couldn't possibly explore adequately in a single comment.  But there it is.

    "Those who have wrought great changes in the world never succeeded by gaining over chiefs; but always by exciting the multitude." - Martin Van Buren

    by puakev on Mon Sep 16, 2013 at 10:48:30 AM PDT

  •  The ironic thing is this... (4+ / 0-)
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    annan, cocinero, Matt Z, FindingMyVoice

    If the GOP is able to derail the ACA, the provisions already in effect and will be soon will decimate the health insurance industry without the masses of new customers.

    So if they sabotage it, it just might make single payer the ONLY solution left.

  •  Unequal representation (3+ / 0-)
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    chuckvw, boophus, JerryNA

    62 Senators represent 1/4 of the population.
    6 Senators represent 1/4 of the population.

    http://www.nytimes.com/...

    I could not find a reference, but I believe Senate Republicans represent about 35% of the population.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/...

    "You can die for Freedom, you just can't exercise it"

    by shmuelman on Mon Sep 16, 2013 at 11:21:29 AM PDT

  •  A must-read (0+ / 0-)

    I highly recommend reading Suzanne Mettler's book The Submerged State: http://www.amazon.com/...

    It explains a lot why doing welfare/social spending through rube goldberg devices fails to build public support.

  •  We hold the high ground (1+ / 0-)
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    Whatithink

    Why this obsession about the tea baggers?

    Could it be that the Dem controlled Senate and our President are obfuscating and spinning? Why?

    Why all the drama, no matter what they propose or suggest it is the Law and whatever they suggest it ain't happening.

    "When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains, And the women come out to cut up what remains, Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains An' go to your Gawd like a soldier." Rudyard Kipling

    by EdMass on Mon Sep 16, 2013 at 11:32:34 AM PDT

    •  No (2+ / 0-)
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      Matt Z, JerryNA

      it's because that tiny minority is trying to blow up government. The budget fight going on right now? Heard of that? The debt ceiling fight?

      "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. [...] There would be no place to hide."--Frank Church

      by Joan McCarter on Mon Sep 16, 2013 at 11:39:56 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Probably since most people who don't approve (1+ / 0-)
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    defluxion10

    would prefer single payer.  I want single payer but I certainly don't want what has been so hard to achieve repealed.  

  •  the only 'gators we need to know are navigators (2+ / 0-)
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    Matt Z, FindingMyVoice

    Warning - some snark may be above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ eState4Column5©2013 "I’m not the strapping young Muslim socialist that I used to be" - Barack Obama 04/27/2013

    by annieli on Mon Sep 16, 2013 at 11:40:45 AM PDT

  •  23%? (1+ / 0-)
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    JerryNA

    I'm fairly sure they supported Dubya straight through.

    Clap On, Clap Off, The Clapper!

    by ActivistGuy on Mon Sep 16, 2013 at 11:43:57 AM PDT

  •  What Makes Me Mad (1+ / 0-)
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    JerryNA

    Is that here in Missouri the elected officials are doing everything they can to sabotage Obamacare.  BUT a big call center is opening here that's supposed to answer Obamacare questions.

    You can bet they'll take credit for the jobs that center brings.

  •  Considering that this is 23% of Voters then (0+ / 0-)

    considering around 130,000,000 people voted in 2012 then that means that it is around 30,000,000 people and that the total US 18+ Population is somewhere around 238,000,000 then somewhere around nearly 210 Million Voting-Age Adults in America are being screwed and this doesn't include all the Future Voters who are now under 18.So in reality it's only about 10% of the USA total Population that wants to Sabotage the ACA,if my guesstimate numbers are anywhere near correct.

  •  Even Dick Cheney had a 19% approval rating. /nt (0+ / 0-)

    Happy little moron, Lucky little man.
    I wish I was a moron, MY GOD, Perhaps I am!
    —Spike Milligan

    by polecat on Mon Sep 16, 2013 at 12:32:48 PM PDT

  •  Tea baggers and red states are overly represented (1+ / 0-)
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    JerryNA

    in the Senate because they have more representatives... CA has 2 senators and has over 35 million people. All the other states west of the Mississippi excluding Texas have less population combined. Wyoming for example has 2 Senators (1/50th the power in Senate) and has a lower population then my small metropolitan area with a population around 365.000. Compare that to CA with a population that is about 100+ times larger. So Wyoming citizens get 100 more times more Senate representation then Californians. Heck they get  about 16 times more then blue OR. And people wonder why the nut jobs , the racist, homophobic and sexist jerks and the corporate worshippers wield so much power.

    Add to that the number of elderly who sit around in front of the boob tube watching Fox disseminate paranoia, hatred and lies... We have met some 70 + yo people who seem pretty nice who have told us that Obamacare is gonna kill them or take away their health care. When asked who told them this they without exception quote FOX.  So we tell them as kindly as possible that that is not true and where to find out what it will mean to them. Then I add that it is the Republicans who want to kill medicare, social security and pensions so that the richest amongst us can pay even less taxes then the working guy.

    Fear is the Mind Killer...

    by boophus on Mon Sep 16, 2013 at 01:15:47 PM PDT

  •  Part D had lower approval ratins than Obamacare (0+ / 0-)

    'In a poll taken in the week that President Bush signed the new Medicare law, 47 percent of senior citizens opposed the changes, and only 26 percent voiced their approval. Among people of all ages who said they were closely following the Medicare debate, 56 percent said they disapproved of the legislation, and 39 percent supported it (ABC News/Washington Post Poll 2003). Their disappointment reflected high expectations as well as the upside-down politics that produced the new reforms':

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/...

    The GOP is frightened to death that Obamacare will work too well and will wind up as popular as Social Security, Medicare and Medicare Part D.

  •  Now that ATTACK! Syria has been postponed (1+ / 0-)
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    JerryNA

    It might be safe to post around here.

    Obama Admin has declined to subsidize union health plans for low income workers with ACA as of Saturday's announcement.

    What ACA did by championing the corporate health insurance industry as the go-to system, was to bend over backwards to distort the "free market". The private insurers and health systems claimed the private market was the only American option of the free market to decide prices/delivery. What they needed was more forced participation vis-a-vis mandates and huge subsidies to the system to grease the wheels.

    Problem is that union negotiated health plans, the direct result of large groups pooling resources and numbers into the only viable non-private alternative to private insurance are now facing the market distortions of ACA. The Gov't has intervened without solving the health care crisis into the pricing system.
    For many decades these unions have balanced wage choices during negotiations with employers with health and welfare benefits. They have foregone DECADES of wage growth, all of us have because union wages were held out as benchmarks. And they did this as a response to the members and workers well being LONG TERM.

    Small businesses of 50 people or less do not have to provide  a health plan under the act. Most union contractors in the building trades fit that category. What will happen is they will see no benefit in having to provide a health care benefit and will refuse to participate in the now relatively expensive plans of the contracts. They will insist on ACA. Yet the union member who works less hours now because of lack of work will only be able to afford the ACA when forced to pay his own health care premiums. The union plans will lose participation and go even more expensive for the remaining group until the tipping point is reached and the contractors refuse to negotiate the health part of Health and Welfare any longer.

    So when Obama pronounced that no one will have to leave any plan or change a thing, it was mendacious at best especially directed at labor support. When Gov't intervenes within the market place (and that's what ACA is, a market based solution) bad things happen. The market gets so distorted that proponents of National Health Care like unions get the shaft to coddle the insurance industry's preference for
    "market based" solutions that merely act as a cover for industry based subsidies.

    The irony is that a Public Option would've been much more "market based" in direct competition. The large pool (which insurance actuaries are based on) would've been VERY competitive in a free market model. Instead what we got was  a rigged game INSIDE a already perverted market/monopoly of health system based private insurance.

    The unions and labor are waking up to these facts. Get ready for the kind of alliances we saw in the run up to ATTACK! Syria and the NSA controversies around ObamaCare.

    NO CE/CW. NO UNION BUSTING

    by Aeolos on Mon Sep 16, 2013 at 03:14:41 PM PDT

  •  I do not find this poll encouraging at all... (0+ / 0-)

    from Pew/US Today:

    "Currently, 53% disapprove of the health care law, while 42% approve. This is among the most negative assessments of the law since it was enacted in March 2010. In July 2012, shortly after the Supreme Court upheld most of the provisions of the Affordable Care Act, 47% approved of the legislation and 43% disapproved."
    So in all this time, we are still failing in the PR about this law.  That is simply not good.

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