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Charlie, on his way to court to be sentenced for assault ... or, winning!
Let the shutdown follies begin! Later this morning, House Republicans will be voting on the continuing resolution to prevent a government shutdown, while at the same time defunding Obamacare.

This latest effort to defund the president's signature health care law is, of course, dead-on-arrival in the Senate—and everyone knows it—but the drama that the GOP base demands must be played out, so vote they will. After which it will be sent to the Senate, where the Ted Cruzes and Mike Lees of the world's most deliberative body will pretend that there's a snowball's chance in hell that the measure will pass, before the defunding is stripped out and it's sent back to the House ... leaving Speaker of the House John Boehner holding the ball once again. At which point he'll either abandon the Hastert Rule and pass the continuing resolution with a Democratic majority or the government will shut down on October 1.

Now, some might describe this style of governance as hostage-taking, others might just say it's insane. But how does Sen. Rand Paul see it?

Does anybody remember Charlie Sheen when he was kind of going crazy…And he was going around, jumping around saying 'Winning, winning, we’re winning,' Well I kind of feel like that, we are winning. And I’m not on any drugs.
Obviously the time for mandatory drug testing is here. Stay tuned.

Stand with Daily Kos and the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee in denouncing Republicans who would completely shut down the government just to destroy Obamacare.

Originally posted to Barbara Morrill on Fri Sep 20, 2013 at 07:12 AM PDT.

Also republished by My Old Kentucky Kos and Daily Kos.

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  •  This kind of comment makes you realize (15+ / 0-)

    that we are dealing with truly stupid people.  Ted Cruz obviously understood that these guys would be very easy to manipulate.

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    by khyber900 on Fri Sep 20, 2013 at 07:19:04 AM PDT

    •  Rand's not stupid... (4+ / 0-)
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      crazy, but not stupid.

      I know that in this post-modern world all our irony detectors are stuck on permanent overload, but I think it's possible that may actually be what Rand was going for. I a lot of ways, he's right; the GOP is dancing around like Sheen and claiming their winning, but in the end they'll "win" in exactly the same way (i.e., by falling flat on their collective faces.) Perhaps Rand is just trying to say that he thinks this effort will go the same way.

      Of course, I could easily be giving him too much credit. Sometimes crazy looks and acts an awful lot like stupid.

      Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory, tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat. Sun Tzu The Art of War

      by Stwriley on Fri Sep 20, 2013 at 07:48:34 AM PDT

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      •  I dunno. (3+ / 0-)
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        “Who is probably the least likely to protect your privacy among Democrats? Hillary Clinton,” Paul said when talking about the potential for the Republicans to “dominate” by becoming “the party that doesn’t believe in big government surveillance”.
        Since his party's President, GWB, gave us the Patriot Act, Paul is either crazy, stupid or off his meds.  Since he says he's not on drugs, I vote for the last -- perhaps drugs are what he needs.

        Après le thé, le déluge. -- Glenn Beck, aka Napoleon XIV

        by mspicata on Fri Sep 20, 2013 at 08:04:21 AM PDT

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      •  I used to think Rand P. was not stupid, but ... (8+ / 0-)

        ... comparing himself to Charlie Sheen? For a sitting United States Senator - one of only 100 princes of the realm! - that is truly stupid. Yes, and crazy.

        Where are the statesmen?

        2014 IS COMING. Build up the Senate. Win back the House : 17 seats. Plus!

        by TRPChicago on Fri Sep 20, 2013 at 08:13:30 AM PDT

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    •  Sadly in this case it sort of is (2+ / 0-)
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      This is a show vote, because 2014 is almost here.  They are only going to shore up their tea party vote and moderate Republicans will not be angry enough with them over any of this threatening BS for it to affect their vote.  The Republicans also need to kick off fund raising.

      •  That's assuming they can step back from the edge (1+ / 0-)
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        Ran out of space, otherwise there would have been an "nt" at the end of the line.

        There are enough instances of American politicians and political movements jumping off the edge, I can't really say what will happen.

        Tell me what to write. tellmewhattowrite.com 'To know what is right and to do it are two different things.' - Chushingura, a tale of The Forty-Seven Ronin

        by rbird on Fri Sep 20, 2013 at 03:03:19 PM PDT

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  •  Too bad Rand is not on drugs (9+ / 0-)

    Because at least there would be the possibility of coming down from whatever makes him so damn crazy.

  •  Like Sheen without the drugs? Even worse!!! (9+ / 0-)

    At least Sheen had an excuse for his delusional meltdown...

  •  I'd be winning too (9+ / 0-)

    ...if it wasn't for the fact that my income is directly tied to this foolishness, so the short term ain't so pretty.  Other than an unsavory work furlough while the kids finish holding their breath and stomping their feet, I'd say watching these fools take turns juggling chainsaws feels just like winning in the long term.

    You gotta think Cruz is a gift that will keep on giving.  Once again, thank you, Texas.

    Don't no one disturb the peace for riot. Don't no one disrupt nirvana. Don't no one wanna blow the high.

    by Rich N Mdriems on Fri Sep 20, 2013 at 07:27:04 AM PDT

  •  Charlie Sheen will lead us to victory!! (5+ / 0-)

    Or perhaps not.  Whatever.

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    by bherner on Fri Sep 20, 2013 at 07:35:02 AM PDT

  •  that, alone, should be enough (4+ / 0-)
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    to keep him out of the White House.

    I hope he releases his "inner crazyeee" more often.

    Up until now, it was only perceptive people who knew he was batshit insane.  He is now expanding his audience to ordinary people.


    I'm not an athiest. How can you not believe in something that doesn't exist? That's way too convoluted for me. - A. Whitney Brown

    by AlyoshaKaramazov on Fri Sep 20, 2013 at 07:36:34 AM PDT

  •  Sen. Paul is off his meds? Uh oh.... nt (2+ / 0-)
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    "So, am I right or what?"

    by itzik shpitzik on Fri Sep 20, 2013 at 07:36:39 AM PDT

  •  fight (1+ / 0-)
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    The House has gone wild because there seems to be no push back.  They bring up issues--Benghazi, IRS, budget etc--are shown to have been wrong--and continue.  They need to be controlled by push back.  Right now, they think they win because when they  fold  they'll say only they cared about the economy.  Instead of allowing this to play out, the Senate--our Senate, should be investigating the bank rollers of insanity--the Koch brothers.  As soon as a committee hearing is set up, the mercenary traitors will force the tea party crazies to shut up.  They understand "power" politics, Dems don't.

    Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. John Kenneth Galbraith .

    by melvynny on Fri Sep 20, 2013 at 07:37:52 AM PDT

  •  There won't be any shutdown... (7+ / 0-)

    If Boehner and Cantor were serious about forcing a shutdown, they wouldn't pass this with 10 days before the deadline.  They're sending it to the Senate knowing it will be stripped and sent back and then they'll go to their caucus and say "See, the Senate will not pass it, and we'll get blamed so we can't defund Obamacare but we can REALLY stick it to them by continuing the sequester funding long term - we need all your votes and it would be a HUGE win!!"

    That's what we're going to get - the CR will continue sequester level funding and no defunding of ACA.

    Senate Dems will need to pass something with increased spending, so in conference they meet in the middle and spending is increased above sequester levels.  

    Glenn Greenwald promotes far-right fringe extremist group The Oath Keepers - https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/statuses/377787818619064320

    by Jacoby Jonze on Fri Sep 20, 2013 at 07:39:51 AM PDT

  •  The GOP knows it won't pass the Senate. (3+ / 0-)
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    That is their plan. When it doesn't pass, they're just going to say "See, those Dems won't do anything. They're just not willing to cooperate."

    29, male, lifelong resident of LA-4.

    by Shreve on Fri Sep 20, 2013 at 07:40:18 AM PDT

  •  What's the news here? That GOP kowtows to bullies? (2+ / 0-)
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    Who knew? But the GOP has become radically opposed to democratic norms and practices. It has come out and said that it prefers a few elite mulitmillionaires to make all the decisions. So of course they would kowtow to bullies. They have no bulwark against them, no built in inhibitions or prohibitions against them, as we do in actual democracy.

    Live by the oligarchs, die by their enforcers.

  •  If you are unfortunate to have a 'bagger Rep... (2+ / 0-)
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    Call them and tell them if Obamacare isn't defunded you'll support their primary challenger, whoever it may be.  

    Ginning up the teabagger caucus to vote against anything that doesn't defund Obamacare is the only way to stop a CR that continues crippling sequester cuts.  

    Glenn Greenwald promotes far-right fringe extremist group The Oath Keepers - https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/statuses/377787818619064320

    by Jacoby Jonze on Fri Sep 20, 2013 at 07:41:29 AM PDT

  •  Wow. What a pathetic, delusional fuckwad. (1+ / 0-)
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    Just like Charlie Sheen!

    "Give to every other human being every right that you claim for yourself." - Robert G. Ingersoll

    by Apost8 on Fri Sep 20, 2013 at 07:49:08 AM PDT

  •  Let Republicans Claim Charlie (5+ / 0-)

    We have his dad, Martin.

    “I believe all Southern liberals come from the same starting point--race. Once you figure out they are lying to you about race, you start to question everything.” ― Molly Ivins

    by RoIn on Fri Sep 20, 2013 at 07:50:24 AM PDT

  •  TeaPartyCat tweets ... (5+ / 0-)

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    by BruceMcF on Fri Sep 20, 2013 at 07:50:38 AM PDT

  •  Rand Paul is winning (3+ / 0-)
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    just like I won the Powerball by buying a ticket which did not pay off.

    Going through the motions that might lead to victory is not the same thing as actually winning, Rand.

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    by blue aardvark on Fri Sep 20, 2013 at 07:51:26 AM PDT

  •  Rand Paul also wants women to drop out of work (2+ / 0-)
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    force so they can stay home and homeschool the next generation of leaders.  Since he admits that only 10% of women are financially secure enough to do this, it is no surprise where the next leaders are coming from in his opinion.

    I note Hannity is salivating over the shut-down.  Tom DeLay showed up to discuss his eventual comeback to the national stage and also to explain that the Newt shutdown was really Clinton's fault and a resounding victory for the GOP.  Maybe DeLay should change his name to Tom "Horner" DeLay (look up the nursery rhyme for explanation)  

  •  Invoking Charlie Sheen is an interesting thing.. (4+ / 0-)
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    When the Charlie Sheen circus hit TV last year, the reaction among the guys I play hockey with was fascinating.  I remember that some of the guys were saying "Man, that guy is totally my role model."  They were only half-joking.

    Charlie Sheen represented the idea that you can and should ignore all better judgement and go for whatever it is that pleases you the most, regardless of the implications.

    I also remember that among friends who had been through substance-abuse programs, Charlie Sheen represented the classic example of an alcoholic in denial.

    Just sayin'.

    You go win-boy, and see where it takes you!  Al-anon says that we can't make somebody face reality.

    •  Their role model?! (1+ / 0-)
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      Charlie Sheen has a history of violence against women, that goes back decades.  He's not a "bad boy".
      He's a bad man who hates women.  

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      by pitbullgirl65 on Fri Sep 20, 2013 at 09:58:59 AM PDT

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  •  His definition of winning... (2+ / 0-)
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    ...doesn't align with that of the dictionary.

    I'm not always political, but when I am I vote Democratic. Stay Democratic, my friends. -The Most Interesting Man in the World

    by boran2 on Fri Sep 20, 2013 at 07:57:33 AM PDT

  •  I like Charlie Sheen, Ive seen his movies, and you (3+ / 0-)
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    sir are no Charlie Sheen!
    besides, the only threesomes Paul dreams about involve Ayn Rand .

  •  I Think Rand Meant That The Tea Party Was (2+ / 0-)
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    winning in that they got the house GOP to vote to cut food stamps and to defund Obamacare.  For Rand Paul that means he is winning since he is more the head of the tea party than Cruz or Rubio.

    "Don't Let Them Catch You With Your Eyes Closed"

    by rssrai on Fri Sep 20, 2013 at 08:07:48 AM PDT

  •  After spending some time thinking this through (4+ / 0-)

    I have come to the realization that the Republican threat of a shutdown is nothing more than a bluff to buy them as much time as possible to fundraise off the rubes in their base (Rand was speaking at LibertPAC when he made these comments btw). They know that they cannot possibly defund the ACA through these kinds of threats and stunts. The only feasible way is to somehow either win enough seats in 2014 to gain a Supermajority in the Senate while holding the House (to override an Obama veto) or to somehow take the Senate, hold the House and win the Presidency in 2016. If they force a shutdown then either scenario that could lead to a victory for them is highly unlikely, if not impossible. They will threaten and fundraise right up to the brink of a shutdown to try to fill their re-election coffers as much as possible...that's what this is all about (never mind the dangerous threat to our fragile recovery, the possibility of a downgrade or the uncertainty this crap foments to businesses). If the ACA is going to be the big disaster that they keep screaming about, you would think that they would want it to kick in full force, so that come November 2014 they could capitalize electorally off the train wreck but they are choosing to fight now to terrorize their base for donations because their real fear is that it will be successful. The problem for them is that the ACA is unstoppable, will kick in fully and likely be very popular come 11/14 when most people are enjoying its benefits and have had time to see that it's not the end of the world that they claimed it would be. They're betting on an unlikely longshot and trying to capitalize on the moment, essentially playing games with our economy and our recovery for self serving purposes with no true expectations of winning in defunding the ACA. All at the expense of the rest of us.

    •  Bang on! GOP self-delusion is running rampant. (1+ / 0-)
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      I think Republican Congresspersons in particular are very well locked and linked to their home base, in every sense of the word. But this tough political reality also offers us considerable opportunities. The Republicans will delude themselves, but not the real people back home.

      [But first ... there is virtually no chance the Republicans will get a supermajority in the Senate. A majority, yes that's possible, and it will allow them to change the filibuster rules. There is a fair chance the GOP will hold on to the House, although I can see the gap narrowing somewhat even in the off Presidential year if - a huge if - the special interest litigators can defeat voter suppression and we can get out the vote much better than we did in 2010.]

      As for opportunities ... spell them ACA. As in:

      [Your GOP Congressperson/Senator] is on record. He/she voted time after time to deprive you of what's valuable to you today. That provides valuable benefits to you now and save you money.
      The GOP pols rightly see Obamacare as cocaine, just like Social Security and Medicare. If it is advertised well and followed up on, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act will help reverse state-level politics, possibly as early as 2014.

      To the extent private money would be helpful in the campaign to educate voters ... Hey, Bill Gates, this is your opportunity to do a lot of Health Care good right here at home!

      2014 IS COMING. Build up the Senate. Win back the House : 17 seats. Plus!

      by TRPChicago on Fri Sep 20, 2013 at 08:33:25 AM PDT

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      •  Mentioning Gates made me think to (2+ / 0-)
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        take a look at available apps regarding the ACA and I'm surprised that the tech savvy Left haven't created any free downloadable apps for people to navigate through, compare or locate local exchanges. There are a few that explain the law and try to break down its components into a more understandable format so people can understand how it can help individuals but nothing on available resources to exchanges. Maybe it's still a bit early as many are just beginning but I hope that if they plan on attracting younger people (as well as mildly tech-competent middle aged folks like myself) that either individual states, the federal government or someone will be all over this as a tool to reach people.

        •  Excellent point! (0+ / 0-)

          And younger people are essential to the program, so you'd hope the many ways to reach them would occur to ACA administrators and facilitators.

          2014 IS COMING. Build up the Senate. Win back the House : 17 seats. Plus!

          by TRPChicago on Fri Sep 20, 2013 at 01:15:02 PM PDT

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  •  This isn't snark? (0+ / 0-)

    When I first saw the headline I thought the author was being  clever, ,making the point that they are as delusional as Charlie Sheen was.

    I was even going to steal it and post "in the words of Charlie Sheen they are 'Winning!'"  Now that is ruined.

  •  Of Course they are Winning (1+ / 0-)
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    They have the Real Un-Skewed Polls to prove it.

    Just like they Won the elections last November.

    I'm Just wondering Who is going to to get blamed when
    the current GOP Delusion starts to Evaporate.

    Those guys need to start creating the NEXT batch of
    delusional ideas ASAP.

    If the Village Idiots back home don't have a new Delusion
    to believe in, those campaign donations are gonna dry up
    real fast.

    On Giving Advice: Smart People Don't Need It and Stupid People Don't Listen

    by Brian76239 on Fri Sep 20, 2013 at 08:44:50 AM PDT

  •  Maybe Rand Paul should be on drugs. (0+ / 0-)

    I'm sure there is something the doctor could give him for his condition.

    The problem with political jokes is they get elected.

    by shoeless on Fri Sep 20, 2013 at 08:49:49 AM PDT

  •  you can make money online (0+ / 0-)

    my co-worker's half-sister makes $73 every hour on the internet. She has been out of a job for five months but last month her pay check was $20490 just working on the internet for a few hours. go to this website....

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