Skip to main content

Just a very quick diary to say THEY DID NOT CAVE. The president did not cave, the Democrats did not cave. And I will note, that there were several here who feared they would. In fact, I will mention just one on many comments in response to someone who said the president and the democrats wouldn't cave, that asked if they could bookmark the comment...in other words, to come back and prove that person wrong.

And I understand. The president made mistakes back in 2011, during the last crisis of this sort. And to those of us who have been around for awhile, we understand that even good presidents make mistakes. The good news is he seemed to have learned. And when he learns, Reid learns, and so does the rest of the democratic party.

We. Did. Not. Cave. And no matter what happens from here on, and I'm one to say I don't think there's going to be ANY caving going on, including the upcoming Debt ceiling issue, I want to BOOKMARK this moment in time. The president did not cave.
the Democrats did not cave.

And so, as we head into this government shut down, we should damn well know we did something right, and we should pause and reflect on the possibility of that. And we should pause and ask ourselves if we really believe both parties are the same.

Tomorrow and the day after will be another day, and days after that, and there will be the usual alligator wrestling going on here, how freaking imperfect we are.

But for tonight, I just wish to put it on record here. The President did not cave. The Democrats did not cave. And everyone savoring that bitter taste in their mouth, is just going to have to add a bit of sweet fact.  

Originally posted to StellaRay on Mon Sep 30, 2013 at 08:24 PM PDT.

Also republished by The Federation.

EMAIL TO A FRIEND X
Your Email has been sent.
You must add at least one tag to this diary before publishing it.

Add keywords that describe this diary. Separate multiple keywords with commas.
Tagging tips - Search For Tags - Browse For Tags

?

More Tagging tips:

A tag is a way to search for this diary. If someone is searching for "Barack Obama," is this a diary they'd be trying to find?

Use a person's full name, without any title. Senator Obama may become President Obama, and Michelle Obama might run for office.

If your diary covers an election or elected official, use election tags, which are generally the state abbreviation followed by the office. CA-01 is the first district House seat. CA-Sen covers both senate races. NY-GOV covers the New York governor's race.

Tags do not compound: that is, "education reform" is a completely different tag from "education". A tag like "reform" alone is probably not meaningful.

Consider if one or more of these tags fits your diary: Civil Rights, Community, Congress, Culture, Economy, Education, Elections, Energy, Environment, Health Care, International, Labor, Law, Media, Meta, National Security, Science, Transportation, or White House. If your diary is specific to a state, consider adding the state (California, Texas, etc). Keep in mind, though, that there are many wonderful and important diaries that don't fit in any of these tags. Don't worry if yours doesn't.

You can add a private note to this diary when hotlisting it:
Are you sure you want to remove this diary from your hotlist?
Are you sure you want to remove your recommendation? You can only recommend a diary once, so you will not be able to re-recommend it afterwards.
Rescue this diary, and add a note:
Are you sure you want to remove this diary from Rescue?
Choose where to republish this diary. The diary will be added to the queue for that group. Publish it from the queue to make it appear.

You must be a member of a group to use this feature.

Add a quick update to your diary without changing the diary itself:
Are you sure you want to remove this diary?
(The diary will be removed from the site and returned to your drafts for further editing.)
(The diary will be removed.)
Are you sure you want to save these changes to the published diary?

Comment Preferences

Louise, Thumb, chuck utzman, pundit, TXdem, JR, Trix, fcvaguy, True North, murphy, ferg, grollen, mwm341, dalemac, greendem, Avila, Shockwave, LynChi, donna in evanston, eeff, WI Deadhead, Bob Friend, Gareth, Bruce The Moose, Zinman, missLotus, cyberKosFan, Wee Mama, amsterdam, sja, whenwego, KMc, jbeach, bws, itskevin, Chitown Charlie, fumie, splashy, Cedwyn, Lilyvt, NYC Sophia, American Zapatista, MKS, leevank, Lawrence, Noodles, LordMike, delphine, westyny, NYFM, defluxion10, papercut, samoashark, kalmoth, Timbuk3, Sophie Amrain, walkshills, Chris Reeves, Major Kong, zerelda, ybruti, Sembtex, tomjones, bibble, sebastianguy99, Longwing, sawgrass727, Gowrie Gal, vcmvo2, bloomer 101, Bluesee, radarlady, freakofsociety, blueyedace2, SherwoodB, stlawrence, Lying eyes, Michigan Transplant, sap, kefauver, reflectionsv37, eru, SaraBeth, Pam from Calif, quaoar, jane123, sunbro, SBandini, Jlukes, turdraker, coloradorob, begone, golem, 417els, SciFiGuy, profundo, dopper0189, raptavio, global citizen, StrayCat, Rosaura, Crashing Vor, tommyfocus2003, Wisper, chicating, Little, Nulwee, Thinking Fella, Sapere aude, bluicebank, Loudoun County Dem, tgypsy, weneedahero, LSophia, Positronicus, la urracca, Ticonderoga, shesaid, deepeco, sfbob, mbh1023, second gen, Killer of Sacred Cows, Wreck Smurfy, skod, Azubia, sable, aseth, on the cusp, roycej, TomP, Empower Ink, djsands, alba, JDWolverton, MKinTN, mconvente, sk4p, Justus, TX Freethinker, angry hopeful liberal, kingneil, HappyinNM, GAS, MikePhoenix, ScottyUrb, Aureas2, elwior, skohayes, Cat Servant, Morgan Sandlin, lavorare, Lujane, tofumagoo, pamelabrown, Cassandra Waites, hwmnbn, pademocrat, Jeff Y, Gemina13, WearyIdealist, toom, Diogenes2008, Wordsinthewind, Bule Betawi, UkieOli, AntonBursch, Nebraskablue, Senor Frog, socal altvibe, CamillesDad1, EquationDoc, aunt blabby, geebeebee, zizi, Mylies Voice, oxfdblue, mksutherland, johnosahon, metro50, moviemeister76, Tortmaster, astral66, joe from Lowell, collardgreens, Larsstephens, cassandraX, Railfan, YellerDog, political junquie, Alohilani, awcomeon, arabian, awesumtenor, stegro, serendipityisabitch, estreya, klompendanser, Crabby Abbey, mookins, Polly Syllabic, VickiL, appledown, BludevlsAdvocate, Dingodude, JoanMar, pixxer, anonevent, DiegoUK, Maverick80229, BlueFranco, ericlewis0, Loose Fur, petesmom, Dems in 08, rasfrome, stevenaxelrod, slice, TheHalfrican, Onomastic, Reetz, janemas, Maximilien Robespierre, kerflooey, Front Toward Enemy, I love OCD, WineRev, Captain Pants, tosimmonds, bgblcklab1, AuroraDawn, La Gitane, Eclectablog, Hatrax, kevin k, Hohenzollern, sethtriggs, thomask, smoothnmellow, SueM1121, worldlotus, myrmecia gulosa, GoBlue08, bluedust, punkRockLiberal, sound of progress, Caddis Fly, jham710, Rejoinder, Take a Hard Left, AnnetteK, weatherdude, hamm, anodnhajo, SouthernBelleNC49, SilverWillow, tb92, tallahasseedem, S F Hippie, a2nite, Deep Texan, gonzoid54, JGibson, FiredUpInCA, stellaluna, Halandri, jan4insight, willrob, reginahny, Arahahex, Jimmy D 84, Buckeye54, OllieGarkey, newliberl, Isaacsdad, jennyp, avsp, etherealfire, rat racer, peptabysmal, Robynhood too, barleystraw, Australian2, Arilca Mockingbird, GoGoGoEverton, Rosedale, Blue Bell Bookworm, jusjtim35, countwebb, Setsuna Mudo, SheilaKinBrooklyn, howabout, Smoh, Rooe, Knockbally, duhban, night cat, Moravan, DarthMeow504, Kimba, Dodgerdog1, eagleray, Capt Crunch, marykmusic, RANDREWF, Gurnt

Subscribe or Donate to support Daily Kos.

Click here for the mobile view of the site