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The President and Democrats should broadcast this 24/7, and we should be calling R Congresspersons asking them why they want to endanger my (my parents', grandparents') social security checks by defaulting on the debt.  Let them hear from people other than their ignorant and/or lunatic Representatives who assure them that default is not a big deal.

Here is a list of Republican Congresspersons.

It's an easy connection, it's true and it goes directly to the key tea party demographic.

Let the "Government Hands off My Medicare" crowd become scared of their own Reps and start marching with torches and pitchforks on their Tea Party or "Moderate who's chicken" Congressmen, screaming at them to vote for a clean bill.

Maybe start with the "moderates" (who talk big and then retreat) and work your way down to the crazies. (It won't take long.)

Here's a script:

Hello?  Congressman (Grimm? Hanna? Wolf? Reichter? .  .  . ) "Why are you putting my (my mom's, my nana's) social security checks in danger by threatening default?"
Enough of this crap.

Originally posted to Upper West on Wed Oct 09, 2013 at 09:28 AM PDT.

Also republished by Social Security Defenders.

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  •  Why are they putting MY SS check in danger? (5+ / 0-)

    I'm on SS. I have never voted Repub, will never vote Repub, so that is obviously why they believe they can take away something I have earned (I built that) since I was 15-1/2.

    There is a reason that the max that can be taxed on SS is 1/2 of your benefit - 1/2 of the benefit was paid by the employer, the other 1/2 by the employee.

    I am getting closer and closer to believing that an armed insurrection is necessary to remove the Repubs from every political office everywhere!

    I reject your reality and substitute my own - Adam Savage

    by woolibaar on Wed Oct 09, 2013 at 09:38:29 AM PDT

  •  SS shouldn't be at risk no matter what. (3+ / 0-)
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    Upper West, jan4insight, cotterperson

    It's solvent for another decade and funded by debt, which can't be questioned / defaulted on.

    •  That's a different issue (6+ / 0-)

      the trust fund is solvent and projections are full until about 2033 and 75% after that.

      But the debt ceiling is day to day cash flow, which will involve prioritizing payments if no debt can be incurred.

      It's definitely accurate to say that payments are in jeopardy.

      The GOP: "You can always go to the Emergency Room."

      by Upper West on Wed Oct 09, 2013 at 09:52:33 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  right, we'd prioritize to make sure that debt (0+ / 0-)

        is paid.  The SS trust fund redeems its Treasury debt to cover cash flow shortfall.  Under a prioritization scheme, then, the SS trust fund gets paid first along with the other bondholders.

        •  I wouldn't be so sure. (2+ / 0-)
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          wilderness voice, JerryNA

          Some Republicans have argued that social security trust bonds are "different" and don't have the same repayment priority.

          Apart from that, would it come ahead of paying defense needs?

          At the very least, there is a colorable claim that there is risk to social security payments and that risk should be used to mobilize support.

          Republicans are making insane arguments to support an insane act.  Not using any colorable argument to stop them is a dereliction of duty in a situation that imperils the country.  

          And in no way is it "stooping" to the other side's level.

          The GOP: "You can always go to the Emergency Room."

          by Upper West on Wed Oct 09, 2013 at 11:54:09 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

  •  Nailed it, Upper West! Stuck the landing! (3+ / 0-)
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    Upper West, davidincleveland, JerryNA

    That's just perfect. It hits the Republicans right where it hurts: old, white people who pay some attention to politics.

    Once this gets out there, maybe the administration can throw a little bit of Mediscare on top of it.

    Where's James Carville? This is his bread and butter.

    Art is the handmaid of human good.

    by joe from Lowell on Wed Oct 09, 2013 at 09:54:03 AM PDT

  •  it's surprising to me that there hasn't been more (6+ / 0-)

    backlash from those relying on Social Security.

    •  People have not believed it was possible that (7+ / 0-)

      SS checks would be disrupted. The balloon needs to be burst! The president at least mentioned this yesterday. As I'm one who relies on just that benefit alone I will be in deep pain if that happened.

      "extreme concentration of income is incompatible with real democracy.... the truth is that the whole nature of our society is at stake." Paul Krugman

      by Gorette on Wed Oct 09, 2013 at 10:32:39 AM PDT

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      •  I'm in the same (5+ / 0-)

        boat.  This has been hanging over our heads for the last how many years.  The constant threats to our safety nets is gut wrenching and is putting those of us who rely on the safety net on pins and needles constantly.  You can live like this year after year.  We need some confirmation that we are safe with our safety net.  And saying that those who are most vulnerable is a lie.

        "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolution­ary act. " George Orwell

        by zaka1 on Wed Oct 09, 2013 at 11:33:55 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Sorry, (4+ / 0-)
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          wilderness voice, wdrath, Gorette, JerryNA

          oops. . . should read:

          And saying that those who are most vulnerable will be safe on social security is a lie.  Anyone of us who are disabled or elderly that have only social security and medicare are vulnerable.

          What kills me is most of us on social security have worked and earned it.  My generation paid into the system when widows got their spouse's social security for the rest of their lives even though they never worked and stayed home to raise children.  That was just the way it was back then.  But, we actually paid into those benefits and they should be there for us, period, and not a reduced version of SS either.  Don't take it from those of us that have worked for it.  

          "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolution­ary act. " George Orwell

          by zaka1 on Wed Oct 09, 2013 at 11:52:26 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

    •  I checked SS website (2+ / 0-)
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      wdrath, JerryNA

      and even it social security and medicare is cut as part of the negatitions after the debt has been settled it is going to be a nightmare, because according to SS some like 47% or more of this country will have only to rely on in old age or disability.  And both parties have been playing with the safety net.  

      This will be a serious crisis and worse because the people are just not getting the representation they should have to save them from being in crisis.  This will also be a problem for those whom need nursing home care.  They are mucking up the whole system.

      And this is after the 1980s when Reagan increased the taxes on us to pay for the baby boomers and now we are getting totally screwed and offered up as some kind of sacrifice to the economic gods.

      "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolution­ary act. " George Orwell

      by zaka1 on Wed Oct 09, 2013 at 12:09:29 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  It is more than the just (5+ / 0-)

    the Republicans we have to worry about.  I'm posting this because we are going to get a cut no matter what.

    The lastest updates:

    Boehner, R-Ohio, told reporters Tuesday he was not drawing "lines in the sand." He sidestepped a question about whether he'd raise the debt limit and fund government for short periods by saying, "I'm not going to get into a whole lot of speculation."

    Hours later, Obama used a White House news conference to say he "absolutely" would negotiate with Republicans on "every item in the budget" if Congress first sent him short-term measures halting the shutdown and the extending the debt limit.

    Even if the debt limit is raised, I fear it will cost us our social security in negotiations.  I'll bet anyone fifty cents that the President is going to go with the Grand Bargin after he get the debt ceciling raised.  

    I truly believe he wants this to happen before he leaves office.  

    "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolution­ary act. " George Orwell

    by zaka1 on Wed Oct 09, 2013 at 11:27:42 AM PDT

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