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The recent government shutdown was both strange and a little disturbing to me.  I had never seen one that came that close to allowing The United States to default before and I thought it was scary.

One thing that struck me as odd about it all was how some of those on the Right suddenly started clamoring to re-open certain targeted government facilities that had been affected by the shutdown - - things such as parks and memorials and flood relief and so forth.

Before the shutdown crisis it appeared to me that most Right Leaning people were totally in favor of defunding anything that smelled of big government spending and after the shutdown there was this big rush by a lot of them to get some of their favorite big government things up and running again.

Look!  Either they are for Big Government spending on all government programs or they have to be content with no Big Government spending on any government program.  I don't think it is at all fair for some folks to expect to have it both ways.

What is your take on all this?

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  •  If all in on food aid, disaster relief, and ACA, (0+ / 0-)

    you then must be all in for drones, Gitmo, and oil subsidies. Not sure what you are proposing. Is it yeah, you go team big government because I'm just a fan of everything you do?

    “Well, when the president does it, that means it is not illegal.” Richard Nixon, 1977.

    by Kvetchnrelease on Fri Oct 18, 2013 at 06:46:25 AM PDT

    •  If all in on food aid,disaster relief and ACA, (2+ / 0-)
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      Witgren, quill

      I am proposing that if the Right despises Big Government so much and if they cannot abide the idea of Government spending taxpayer money on specific items in the budget, then they shouldn't be the first ones at the empty trough screaming for somebody in Government to turn the faucet back on for their pet causes.  There is nothing that guarantees everybody on one side of the political fence or the other can have everything they want - - and there is certainly nothing that guarantees one side can have all they want and the other side must be deprived.

  •  It was all of a piece (2+ / 0-)
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    DRo, FiredUpInCA

    Bad as Republican policies are, they've never really advocated for complete dissolution of the Federal government nor is it what they desire.

    They're always behind the unlimited ability of the US military to project force anywhere in the world-- the more brutally the better. Militarization of police forces is right down their alley. Subsidies for giant corporations are always appreciated.

    They merely hate programs that make life a little better for ordinary individuals.

    In this context the histrionics over the WW II memorial were quite consistent. I'm sure they would have loved to re-legislate the funding of the entire Federal Government on a program-by-program basis. Thank God the Democrats had the good sense to resist the grandstanding and just say no.

    "The smartest man in the room is not always right." -Richard Holbrooke

    by Demi Moaned on Fri Oct 18, 2013 at 06:48:40 AM PDT

  •  Dunning-Kruger Effect explains it all. (0+ / 0-)
  •  "Big government" isn't programs (2+ / 0-)

    they use, it's programs used by others.

    I'm living in America, and in America you're on your own. America's not a country. It's just a business.

    by CFAmick on Fri Oct 18, 2013 at 08:08:26 AM PDT

  •  In lots of cases... (3+ / 0-)

    I think many tea party/right wing drones are completely ignorant as to the benefits they get from government programs, simply because they're never told as such by Fox, Heritage, or whoever.

    So suddenly when they can't go to a park they are befuddled over how something they enjoy could actually be made possible because of taxes and federal funding, and then are told that the only reason it ACTUALLY is closed is because it's a specific effort by Obama and Reid to "make things as painful as possible".

  •  they're playing a shell game (0+ / 0-)

    Republican politicians, right-wing operatives, media propagandists, and the puppetmasters who pull their strings (though not necessarily the sadly deluded base) are usually completely disengenuous about their motives.

    For them the only goal is to manipulate the various factions into giving them more power so that they can implement policies that benefit them and their masters. They say whatever they need to say at any given moment to achieve their goals. Charges of hypocrisy fall off them like water on a duck.

    The goal: Legislative control from top to bottom, followed by the looting of public assets and conversion of the population into disempowered feudal serfs.

    "Tell the truth and run." -- Yugoslav proverb

    by quill on Fri Oct 18, 2013 at 08:57:03 AM PDT

  •  My take? (0+ / 0-)

    Parks and monuments look good on camera.  They wanted to fund the things that would make them look good.  Then, after things quiet down, they could still quietly shut down those departments, because nobody would be looking.

    It's all optics.

    I am not religious, and did NOT say I enjoyed sects.

    by trumpeter on Fri Oct 18, 2013 at 10:28:46 AM PDT

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