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Originally posted to Comics on Tue Nov 05, 2013 at 02:50 PM PST.

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  •  By George (Steinbrenner) I think you're on to (4+ / 0-)

    something. That's so crass and short-sighted the Red Sox and Yankees will probably make that trade.

    Spite is the ranch dressing Republicans slather on their salad of racism

    by ontheleftcoast on Tue Nov 05, 2013 at 02:55:20 PM PST

  •  Well, now I REALLY don't know (5+ / 0-)
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    I grew up and spent most of my adult life watching the Red Sox and waiting for the other shoe to drop so I could finally give up on that season. One win I could handle, but three in nine years?

    I don't think that trade will happen, though. I think the Yankees will implode soon because the "rivalry" is quickly becoming not a real one any more.

    Seneca Falls, Selma, Stonewall

    by Dave in Northridge on Tue Nov 05, 2013 at 03:03:12 PM PST

  •  I don't think it's going to happen either... (4+ / 0-)

    Ortiz is under contract for another year and I don't think the Red Sox would ever trade him anyway.

    Arrogance is ignorance matured.

    by jennyp on Tue Nov 05, 2013 at 03:21:33 PM PST

  •  Bah. (0+ / 0-)

    Money tawks, Awteez wawks.

  •  this cartoonicst is the worst (0+ / 0-)

    random thoughts, randomly cut off

  •  A 38 year-old with a history of steroid use (0+ / 0-)

    and a 14 million dollar salary? I guess it does make a certain amount of sense.

    To believe that markets determine value is to believe that milk comes from plastic bottles. Bromley (1985)

    by sneakers563 on Tue Nov 05, 2013 at 03:44:51 PM PST

  •  The real reason for the curse ... (2+ / 0-)
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    ... or at least one reason it went so long, was that the Red Sox were the last team to hire a black player.  They waited until 1959 before allowing a black man on the team. Their racism left them in the cellar throughout the 50s.

    •  The racism was a big part of it, (2+ / 0-)
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      but in a way, it's a symptom on how backward the whole Yawkey years were. They weren't just stone age on race, but they were stone age on everything.

      Tom Yawkey is incredibly in the Hall of Fame. I guess if you own a baseball team for half a century without being fined or suspended they do that. But Mr. Yawkey and his clique did far more damage to his team by mismanagement and bigotry then Pete Rose ever did to his teams. I say either put Rose in the HOF, or get Yawkey out. I'd prefer the latter.

      Just another underemployed IT professional computer geek.

      by RhodeIslandAspie on Tue Nov 05, 2013 at 04:04:46 PM PST

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  •  It's the Giants turn NEXT year, bub! (1+ / 0-)
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    ;-)

    What stronger breast-plate than a heart untainted! Thrice is he arm'd, that hath his quarrel just; And he but naked, though lock'd up in steel, Whose conscience with injustice is corrupted. King Henry, scene ii

    by TerryDarc on Tue Nov 05, 2013 at 04:00:57 PM PST

  •  I love the bottom left panel. It says it all. (2+ / 0-)
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    Never in the history of the World Series has anyone ever deserved the title of MVP more than he. Usually, a starting pitcher like Lester with two wins would win it, but this was no ordinary year.

    Just another underemployed IT professional computer geek.

    by RhodeIslandAspie on Tue Nov 05, 2013 at 04:06:35 PM PST

  •  despite the cartoonist's efforts... (0+ / 0-)

    ...the Sawx are no longer lovable.

    They have become what they claim to hate the most.

    The Yankees.

    •  Disagree. (3+ / 0-)
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      sneakers563, Nowhere Man, PinHole

      They tried to be the Yankees for a couple of years, breaking the bank to sign some overpriced, overrated, free agents past their prime. (Can't get much more Yankee than that.) The ownership was even talking like the old George in 2011 - predicting a 100 win season.

      I saw them not looking to good after the all-star break. They were winning still, but looked dead. I knew a fall was coming. I was actually rooting against them at the end, not wanting them to make post-season, because they didn't deserve it.

      Towards the end of the 2012 season, they decided to blow things up and rebuild. Thank you Dodgers for your support in this.  We saw the results this year.

      Just another underemployed IT professional computer geek.

      by RhodeIslandAspie on Tue Nov 05, 2013 at 04:13:20 PM PST

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      •  I'm a Yankee fan and I agree with you (2+ / 0-)
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        The Red Sox have exactly one big name in Ortiz (Pedroia is close). The rest of the team is composed of solid players who do the little things needed to win, and help each other out. The Red Sox are definitely not predicated on the Steinbrenner philosophy of winning by bringing in the free agent.

        That said, those Yankee teams in the late 90's - early 2000's weren't really predicated on that either. Jeter, Pettitte, Rivera, Williams, Posada, Mendoza, the core of those teams were products of the farm system. O'Neill wasn't, but he was also supposed to be a platoon-player when they traded for him.

        To believe that markets determine value is to believe that milk comes from plastic bottles. Bromley (1985)

        by sneakers563 on Tue Nov 05, 2013 at 04:25:33 PM PST

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        •  But I fear the Steinbrenner sons are (0+ / 0-)

          getting smart with their money. That scares me to death. With their cash flow, if they spend their money wisely, they could win the World Series every year.

          Just another underemployed IT professional computer geek.

          by RhodeIslandAspie on Tue Nov 05, 2013 at 05:40:25 PM PST

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    •  Some of us have memories (2+ / 0-)
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      TrueBlueMajority, burana

      longer than 13 years.  We were born into the Fenway experience 60+ years ago.  We don't think of the BOSOX as being "lovable."  

      We don't brag about them when they are not playing well, choosing to ignore them.  But hope springs eternal every March and we cheer for those making the effort.  The way players are traded like pieces of meat lately, belies the myth that just players & management are from the greater Boston area.  

      We endured through the 50's - '90's.  

      However Fenway and the fan experience with those from the area has brought together a solid (green) wall of loyalty which is strong and enduring.  And then there is the pride of city and region.  A little snobby, and self-entitled - with reason. This was revived when the area confronted the Marathon bombers this spring and the sports teams of Boston helped.

      Proud to be born to it, back to the days when Ted Williams loped around the bases.   GO PAPI !  and John Henry.

      BTW David Ortiz knows he'd just be another player anywhere else at this point.  He would not be smart to give up his destiny with Boston.

  •  OK One Nerdy Response. (1+ / 0-)
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    TrueBlueMajority

    I assume the last panel is supposed to be David Ortiz and not Babe Ruth, who's the subject of the text.  Big Papi indeed wears 34.  Ruth, however, wore 3 with the Yankees, and only toward the end of his career - baseball teams didn't start putting numbers on the uniforms, on the backs or anywhere else, until  1929 (the Yankees and Indians were the first).    

    Just being baseball nerdy.  

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