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I was not sure whether this would be appropriate for a diary, and I know some people, for good reasons can be sticklers on this - so I did reach out to the KOS help desk first, asking if writing a diary would be OK and I did get a response and they did suggest I post on the "main site."

So I apologize in advance if I am doing anything wrong.

I am looking for help from pertinent talent with in the KOS community.

I have written a book, which is a factual take down of what the GOP has become. The objective is a plea for GOP voters capable of rational thought to consider the consequences of being the junior partner of what has become a fundamentalist movement. This book contains numerous graphs, Charts, tables, pictures and cartoons. I prove with easy and concise math’s that the greater the influence of GOP policies the greater the damage to the economic, educational, health and values of such inhabitants.

It is 290 pages, 100,000 words. One third of the words are my narrative (requiring proof reading) the rest being quotes from numerous sources – from Journalists to research facilities.

I have been advised that there are copyright issues (this does not really concern me – publish and be damned) and possible personal liability issues (this does concern me). The person who advised me was not an expert on the legal side of this stuff but advised that since I am attacking crazy people, crazy people do crazy things and that in the publishing business the far right has a reputation for being litigious.

I do not believe that there is anything libelous in the book – but that does not really matter. My experience in the US Courts suggests to me that the righteous do not always win – and those with money and resources have an out weighted influence.

Since some of the content is inspired by the KOS writers and the KOS community – I thought I might get some assistance. I do not pretend to be able to write so concisely and originally as people like Jed Lewison and Joan McCarter, and I am always very impressed by Markos Moulitsas prognostications.

I am more of a numbers guy, with an international perspective – and quite used to making easy to understand presentations. I have been advised that my best protection is not to try and monetize this project – and money is not a driving factor here. I was also advised that this effort was “hot, exciting and timely”. It is also time sensitive and would take ages to pass through the legal department of a publishing house. It is best read as an “e” read (IPAD, Kindle etc) as it has numerous links to supporting documentation. It is presently in a PDF format.

I need help in proof reading (not a massive job) Editing, Cover design, marketing and most importantly the legal aspects.

I live in the NY area and am willing to pay for personalized assistance and will invest in this project and I would be happy to travel to meet. This book needs to come out of the closet several months before the 2014 elections - at the latest.

"But always I here times winged chariot hurrying near"

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  •  Er, (7+ / 0-)

    "copyright issues (this does not really concern me – publish and be damned) and possible personal liability issues" are linked, and a litigious entity could quickly make a lot of expensive trouble:
    to wit: as posted on Mid-day Open Thread.
    Proceed with caution. Good luck.

    •  Interesting Link (0+ / 0-)

      & food for thought - but may be he was taking a greater risk - if his experiment regarding setting fire to the water was misleading.

      But obviously I need some help on this - the writers on KOS I suspect have perhaps made some factual errors? or gray area charges? and perhaps have taken greater liberties? - so it can be done. The vast bulk of what I have to say is simply citing pretty main stream research - whose research has usually been widely cited in the media. It  is the aggregation of the facts that I believe creates a powerful message.

      This book is perhaps considerably more ambitious in it's scope than Al Franken's illustrations of the lack of integrity of certain well known personalities.

      There have been studies undermining the veracity of Fox - and all Fox can do is use a 3rd rate writer with some pretty wacky concepts of Science to rebut - they can not rebut with credible research. The same can be said for the Romney Economic 2012 plan - the only credible economists he could site - well their research has since been debunked and they have since backtracked.


  •  I worked as editor in Army office (3+ / 0-)
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    Via a conference support contractor -- I really mostly assembled publications and caught and fixed obvious typos, made sure graphics were acceptable, re-sized and re-rezzed where needed, assembled drafts for review by study chairs and submitted for publication when done...  

    Whenever I didn't get something, I went back to the study chairs for clarification.  I got called "tech writer" and "publications manager";  definitely not what I had in mind when I studied physics at UCF, but it did pay for my 2005 Prius and kept me and at least one of my cats on the chubby side of healthy..

    I also communicated and coordinated a lot, pushing slide shows (.ppt) and publications (.pdf) where they needed to go, and arranging meetings and VTCs and many other such.

    the Clear Light is the consciousness of the quantum vacuum

    by Sharkmeister on Thu Nov 07, 2013 at 04:10:07 PM PST

  •  What are the copyright issues & why are you not (7+ / 0-)

    concerned about them?

    I hope you get some great responses to your query.

    I suggest you change the beginning of your diary to reflect that you're talking about a book you've written.

    When one mouse's over the diary title on the front page, the first few sentences are visible to the reader.

    So I would put the information about the book, that you need proof-reading ect and that you are willing to pay for it (if I read you correctly) in the very first lines of the first paragraph.

    That way people will know what the diary is about. The way it is written now, one could easily assume this is a request for money. Not that there is anything wrong with that. But you want the people to read and respond to your diary that will be interested in your book.

    Good luck!

    "your anointing... is an anointing as king. God has given you an anointing to go to the battlefield. ...To go to the marketplace and occupy the land. To go to the marketplace and take dominion." ~Papa Cruz on the "anointment" of Ted & Rand Paul

    by denig on Thu Nov 07, 2013 at 04:12:28 PM PST

    •  Copy right issues (1+ / 0-)
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      The book is has many photo's and cartoons, taken off the internet - since they were easy to copy and paste - I find difficult to believe that the "artist" in question would get upset. Also I have been advised that this should not not be a big issue.

      I have quoted many journalists - and sometimes the quotes  are more than a paragraph long. Again I am not too worried - since these individuals are unlikely to get upset by their expertise getting cited. I doubt that Mother Jones would come after me for say promoting (with attribution) their graphics on Gerrymandering.

      I have attacked certain powerful people with verifiable facts, but the bulk of the bulk of the book simply allows the facts to dictate the narrative. I am a great believer in pictures and charts being retained in ones consciousness to a far more effective degree than words. I also try and steer away from arguments  that can not be made relatively briefly and simplistically. Regarding statistics - if you are not careful they can be tortured to the point of confessing to anything.

      •  copyright (5+ / 0-)

        You could be very wrong if you assume the artists in question would not object to you copying and pasting their work into your book.  Whoever advised you on that is sending you down the path of a lawsuit.  You need permission from the copyright holder to use their photos or artwork.

      •  Yeah, you can't do that. You can't just take (2+ / 0-)
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        another persons artwork and use it in your book without permission.  I am sure instances vary, but you need to get a good lawyer, one who works with authors, to advise you. Otherwise you can be sued.

        You can not assume that people will not be upset if you use their stuff without getting their permission.

        And why would you not ask their permission?

        "your anointing... is an anointing as king. God has given you an anointing to go to the battlefield. ...To go to the marketplace and occupy the land. To go to the marketplace and take dominion." ~Papa Cruz on the "anointment" of Ted & Rand Paul

        by denig on Thu Nov 07, 2013 at 05:47:18 PM PST

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        •  Artwork (0+ / 0-)

          One would have to see it to evaluate it, and that needs to be done by a copyright expert - but I am not getting the art of the artists website - these are often generally disseminated pictures, in the public domain, that can be be found in multiple places.

          But I am more concerned by people with deep pockets.

          •  how do you know it's in the public domain? (0+ / 0-)

            initially you said there were copyright problems.  You need to surrender to the need to get permission and make a project of it.  Why are you resisting?

            If you are concerned with big money getting after you, that big money can buy up some of those copyrights and use that to come after you.

        •  lawyer please. (0+ / 0-)

          The purpose of the diary is to get expert personalized opinions. You can not make judgments with out context or pertinent expertise, and with out me going into some details about how much further research is feasable - because I can guarantee you that in many instances copyright would not be an issue.

      •  Just because they are easy to copy and paste (4+ / 0-)

        does not make it legally okay to do so.  

        Any artwork or cartoon or even a chart that could be under copyright needs to have permission from the creator. If you cannot find the creator, that does not absolve you of the need to get permission. If you are certain the work was created before 1923, it is in the public domain.

        People might not notice you copying and pasting around on the internet, but as soon as you publish them in a book, you're likely to be found and pursued by an angry copyright holder.

        You can cite written work with footnotes; this can get complicated as to how much and how long.

        If you're certain that the artists won't mind, all the more reason to ask permission first.

        Fry, don't be a hero! It's not covered by our health plan!

        by elfling on Thu Nov 07, 2013 at 06:20:39 PM PST

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      •  Any reputable publisher will not print (2+ / 0-)
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        material  which is not yours in the book which you and they do not have explicit written permission to use.

        Please to the Absolute Write Water Cooler and read everything. You need to really understand the publishing business before you go any further.

              Just trying to help,

        Torture is ALWAYS wrong, no matter who is inflicting it on whom.

        by Chacounne on Thu Nov 07, 2013 at 06:40:46 PM PST

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  •  An interesting project. I recommended your (4+ / 0-)
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    diary because I think community collaboration is a great way to get things done.

    However, I'd think a bit about whatever issues opponents, targets, or detractors might be able to use to discredit the book.  So, think about, get advice about, any issues, including copyright, etc.  Try to adapt or comply with whatever you can, so you minimize the angles of attack.

    The one thing the RW is really good at is blowing tiny discrepancies or quibbles into major attacks, detracting from the actual content. So, I'd think about that part a bit and try to "armor up" a bit. :-)

    Best wishes!

    "The law is meant to be my servant and not my master, still less my torturer and my murderer." -- James Baldwin. July 11, 1966.

    by YucatanMan on Thu Nov 07, 2013 at 04:18:20 PM PST

  •  Your book sounds very exciting! (1+ / 0-)
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    I've none of  the skills you need honed to the correct degree, but I hope others here who do will step forward. I expect some might be more comfortable private messaging you than posting here. If you care you might say. Or not.

    Best wishes in getting this readable to the public in a timely way! Please keep us informed on how you are progressing.

    I think this is "hot" too. It would be great to have all the convincing data in one place to whip out to show. I bet Rachel Maddow would be enthused...her show is very data driven.

    Again, best wishes. And don't be shy about posting diaries as updates. Your project isn't only a book of some random topic that one Kossack is writing. The topic is extremely important to most of us. I could imagine writing a diary about hearing that Someone is writing such a book. Yay for us! Because Dems suck at messaging. If they widely have access to the same data very easily maybe they'll get better at it.

    I am of course imagining this book going crazy, all politicians reading it and pundits talking about it.

    I want this published, myself.

  •  I think you should get approval for everything you (4+ / 0-)

    found on the Internet and borrowed. Otherwise you will be open to attacks on the method, and not even on the content. Note: Rand Paul ;)

    •  It is not that Black and White. (0+ / 0-)

      By definition facts do not come from the author. They come from some one else. I have attributed thousands of sources. Of course one does not need approval for every fact that one cites - attribution is sufficient. Sometimes attribution is not even necessary if the information is ubiquitous.

      How often have you seen quotes from Fox, written by other Journalists - do you really expect that I have to write to Roger Ailes for his permission?

      Here is a quote from Roger Ailes " The Truth is what ever people will believe"

      Shall I ask Ailes for his approval - or should I write to the lawyers at Wikipedia. May be I got the quote from the NYT or may be from Kos, who got it from the radio.

      Now I am not remotely worried about KOS coming after me, I am only worried about Ailes - not because he has grounds, but because he and his people have deep pockets and is a very dangerous individual that is a threat to me, my family, our community and our planet.

      •  If you think you have the say over what copywrited (2+ / 0-)
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        material is published if your book is published, you are very wrong. Any reputable publisher has a team of lawyers who go over the material to ensure that the law is followed, because the publisher is on the legal hook for what they have published.

                            To be clear,

        Torture is ALWAYS wrong, no matter who is inflicting it on whom.

        by Chacounne on Thu Nov 07, 2013 at 06:47:20 PM PST

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      •  you have admitted to copying artwork (0+ / 0-)

        which is a far cry from fair use of a one-liner.  Also, facts are not subject to copyright - work product is.  And you seem to be confusing proper attribution with getting permission.  Perhaps you need to understand the rules regarding copyright better.

  •  I can't help with the legal stuff but (0+ / 0-)

    I would be willing to read it and make suggestions for edits.  I'm not a pro editor but then I wouldn't charge you anything for my services.  I've been doing free editing for family, friends, etc. for most of my 55 years.  I wouldn't be able to start reading it for a week or so though.    

    •  Please feel free to contact me (0+ / 0-)

      My email is dbeall@optonline

      and I can discuss in more detail as to what help I am looking for. It needs another pair of eyes, it needs some relatively simple technical help (also some more advanced technical help).

      Another poster mentioned hiring a freelance picture editor that could sort out much of the copyright issues that concern me, as this task would be beyond me (for reasons that will become evident on understanding the project)  - leaving me to focus of the faux libel issues - which I am far more concerned about.

  •  I do have some experience in this area. (1+ / 0-)
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    The way you describe the quotes sounds like fair use to me, as long as it doesn't include poetry or song lyrics.

    The artwork needs to be identified and you need to send out permission letters. In my experience, most of those are granted with no fuss or cost. Just describe the book and ask how they wish to be cited. You can hire a free lance picture editor to track that down for you.

    The best way to track down the source of charts is to type the title of the chart, if it has one. Then use google image search. Also use the word "chart" or graph in the search string. It will pop up eventually. Just follow the breadcrumbs until you get to the source.

    If you've already compiled the book and it is in PDF format -- I think it would be a mistake not to shop it first with NY publishers. To find the right editor, look for similar books or political themes in a bookstore. Then call the publisher and ask who the editor of that book was. That's your pigeon. Feel free to make multiple submissions, but only a few at a time. Be careful not to send it to different divisions of the same publisher. A librarian can help here. There are reference books behind the desk that will clear all of this up.

    Don't bring them problems in your query letter or submission. Tell them you are in the process of securing all permissions. Don't mention getting help from their legal department. Do mention copyediting has not been done and a good editorial eye is no doubt needed.

    Only a book publisher can distribute in a way that would be meaningful to you.

    "A strange game. The only winning move is not to play."
            -- Joshua, aka WOPR (War Operation Plan Response) automated nuclear-launch super-computer. "War Games," 1983.

    by Pluto on Thu Nov 07, 2013 at 07:01:28 PM PST

    •  Thank you - much food for thought. (1+ / 0-)
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      1) No poetry or lyrics
      2) Happy to hire a free lance picture editor.
      3) Charts etc are all properly attributed.
      4) NY Publishers - my concern, legal departments would slow it down beyond 2014 elections - although I would be happy to work with an editor. Having said this I will certainly think very seriously about your suggestions....
      5) I am not convinced that publishing via Amazon Create Space is not a viable option- only the legalities and lack of some technical skills are holding me back (I am not really interested in making money on it - I just have to get the facts out there in a fun, provocative, easily accessible/readable format that has not been attempted before) To do nothing in the face of such overwhelming dishonesty and misinformation is something that I find difficult to live with).

      •  I'm not sure you understand enough (1+ / 0-)
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        ...about publishing to fully understand what I wrote.

        (You'll need to send out permissions letters on those charts, too. However, since you are using so many different sources, you're really assembling a "compendium" and I seriously doubt anyone is going to come after you for damages. Especially if you self publish and the book doesn't break out.)

        But, that's okay.

        Based on the self-publishing track you're determined to follow, I recommend contacting Vook, a NY ebook packager that can provide most of the services you need.

        They produce Publishers Weekly's ebooks -- and they are pretty cool, too.

        "A strange game. The only winning move is not to play."
                -- Joshua, aka WOPR (War Operation Plan Response) automated nuclear-launch super-computer. "War Games," 1983.

        by Pluto on Thu Nov 07, 2013 at 07:57:09 PM PST

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        •  I will look into that. (1+ / 0-)
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          I am not determined to follow any specific path, but time is a driving force since data gets old, or targeted individuals become less relevant, or web links disappear. Today I can make some stunning assertions - that by the end of 2014 are likely to be less poignant.

          Plus I am suspecting a certain chain of events to unfold between 2014- 2022 that make it important to move by mid 2014 at the latest.

          I have done dozens of charts myself - by manually entering data onto my own spread sheets. But of course I have to get data from some where. I have the source material for virtually everything bar the cartoons and some photos.

          I really appreciate your input and will be investigating both Vook and the freelance picture editor. I bet that he will say that some of the pictures at least will not require permission - I just need some one to identify that issue properly. Before posting this diary I had had some expert feedback - but I need more.

          •  If you work on it every day (0+ / 0-)

   will get published on time.

            Plus I am suspecting a certain chain of events to unfold between 2014- 2022 that make it important to move by mid 2014 at the latest.
            I'm a numbers and chart person, myself.

            Best wishes for your success.

            "A strange game. The only winning move is not to play."
                    -- Joshua, aka WOPR (War Operation Plan Response) automated nuclear-launch super-computer. "War Games," 1983.

            by Pluto on Thu Nov 07, 2013 at 08:58:01 PM PST

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