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Do you think House Republicans really give a damn about people whose health insurance plans have been cancelled? Think again. It's all part of the agenda that's been driving them for four years: Stopping Obamacare. Back in July, House Speaker John Boehner laid out a strategy of "targeted strikes" against the law, repealing it a bite a time.

And in a conference with his members Thursday morning, Boehner said the bill from Rep. Fred Upton to allow insurers to keep offering substandard policies is all a part of that larger plan.

“Remember the strategy for stopping Obamacare we laid out to you back in July. It had two components: Aggressive, coordinated oversight, and targeted legislative strikes aimed at shattering the legislative coalition the president has used to force his law on the nation,” Boehner said, according to a person in the room.

“That plan is being executed as we speak. But none of it will be effective if we aren’t communicating. If we aren’t telling the stories our constituents are sharing, then we’re letting them down. It means we aren’t doing our best to stop this law,” he added.

Never mind the millions of constituents in red states and districts who don't have insurance at all and don't have any prayer of getting it if Obamacare is repealed. Those aren't people who matter. The only thing that matters is killing the law.

President Obama will be making an announcement on the "keep your plans" issue today at 11:35 ET. Join us for our live coverage of the event.

Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Thu Nov 14, 2013 at 07:13 AM PST.

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  •  Tip Jar (19+ / 0-)

    "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. [...] There would be no place to hide."--Frank Church

    by Joan McCarter on Thu Nov 14, 2013 at 07:13:55 AM PST

  •  Some People Understand Republican Nature (6+ / 0-)

    Others champion bipartisan legislation.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Thu Nov 14, 2013 at 07:19:04 AM PST

  •  Appears that each GOP senator is standing up and (2+ / 0-)
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    ericlewis0, shoeless

    telling a tale of woe.

    •  Boxer punching back. (0+ / 0-)
    •  Boener probably gave them homework ... (1+ / 0-)
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      ...assigning each senator requirement to bring personalized horror storys of their "ObamaCare" tragedies...the greater exaggerated the constituent report greater the reward. These ongoing kabuki-dramas have to be getting way old with the majoring of American population. POTUS Obama admin must know this and start campaign shining light on them. Change the subject already!  When repubs say ObamaCare tragedy...We say millions of American citizens cannot afford preventive and reactive healthcare which causes higher healthcare costs for those who do have healthcare insurance...ACA, ObamaCare is an effective way to mitigate that escalating cyclical cost to our economic well being...etc., ...over and over and over...and then even helps businesses, small and large by offsetting one of their more difficult areas of business expense...employee healthcare. yadda yadda. On and On and On. And then add, It's's's working...and throw out some numbers...which they will refute...then we throw out some more numbers etc., they have to respond. And guess what, our numbers are more real then their's we win...eventually.
      Just saying

      Our nations quality of life is based on the rightousness of its people.

      by kalihikane on Thu Nov 14, 2013 at 07:59:50 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  House Democrats better keep their heads (9+ / 0-)

    Democrats in the House who are getting scared better remember that the ONLY goal of House Republicans is destroying Obamacare. Signing onto Upton is signing onto destroying Obamacare.

  •  Divided government no longer works (2+ / 0-)
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    Vatexia, scott5js

    Many people saw what Clinton and the GOP did and then go on to say how divided government works.

    But that was because the GOP thought they could destroy Clinton using Monica and Whitewater.

    Obama is mostly clean, no scandals monetary or personal so the only way they GOP can destroy him is by basically trying to destroy the economy and rob him of any legislative successes.

    I'm not sure this will keep them in power and really after all THIS do you think the dems if they have one house are really going to cooperate with a GOP president like they did with Bush?

    •  Yes: (0+ / 0-)
      and really after all THIS do you think the dems if they have one house are really going to cooperate with a GOP president like they did with Bush?
      Absolutely.  They cooperated with Bush after the GOP impeached Clinton.  Look at how frightened congressional dems are now after a week of bad publicity for ACA in the media.  Once the corporate media starts asking why congressional dems are being obstructionist under a republican president, they will fold like a cheap card table.

      "When I was an alien, cultures weren't opinions" ~ Kurt Cobain, Territorial Pissings

      by Subterranean on Thu Nov 14, 2013 at 08:27:53 AM PST

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  •  It'll never come to the floor for a vote. (1+ / 0-)
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    The only bill that will come to the floor for the vote is one that explicitly gives the insurance company the right to cancel the policy, raise rates or delete coverage.  Grover Norquist has spoken.

    "One faction of one party in one House of Congress in one branch of government doesn't get to shut down the entire government just to refight the results of an election."

    by Inland on Thu Nov 14, 2013 at 07:27:26 AM PST

  •  Thank You Bill Clinton, ANd Other Democrats. (4+ / 0-)
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    DRo, Subterranean, mchestnutjr, Matt Z

    When this passes, and itr brings down the ACA.. We know who to thank.

  •  Rethugs will try (4+ / 0-)
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    exreaganite, shoeless, wishingwell, Matt Z

    ANYTHING, anything at all, no matter how
    big or small, to destroy the ACA -  and by extension, the
    Obama administration.

    "The past is never dead. It's not even past". Faulkner.

    by mchestnutjr on Thu Nov 14, 2013 at 07:30:04 AM PST

  •  Someone should show this report to (1+ / 0-)
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    With the Decision Points Theater, the George W. Bush Presidential Library becomes the very first Presidential Library to feature a Fiction Section.

    by Its the Supreme Court Stupid on Thu Nov 14, 2013 at 07:30:11 AM PST

  •  President to announce his fix (2+ / 0-)
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    skillet, shoeless

    With the Decision Points Theater, the George W. Bush Presidential Library becomes the very first Presidential Library to feature a Fiction Section.

    by Its the Supreme Court Stupid on Thu Nov 14, 2013 at 07:32:18 AM PST

    •  I hope it is by regulation (3+ / 0-)

      Basically, Landrieu's approach isn't terrible -- existing policies to existing customers can continue and will be phased out over time, if there are no new purchasers.  Regulatory oversight of notices to customers of such policies is also a good idea.  So long as there is some regulatory authority to do this, it makes sense.  If there were not so many technical problems with the transition this would not be necessary, but because there have been, a longer transition makes absolute sense.  From a technical standpoint, this also really emphasizes the current problems the government has with contracting for technology and it is not limited to this particular program by any means.  It's a longstanding problem that most people don't see because they don't actually come face to face with most of the technology that is procured by government.

  •  President himself is to blame (1+ / 0-)
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    Victor Ward

    for firestorm.   His "you can keep your policy" babble is his "47% comment".

    What a pratfall.

    From Neocon to sane- thanks to Obama- and Kos.

    by satrap on Thu Nov 14, 2013 at 07:34:21 AM PST

    •  It's more than that (3+ / 0-)
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      satrap, Subterranean, Matt Z

      His comments wouldn't have been such an issue if the website were not having such difficulty because these are people who are now justifiably scared they will have no coverage.

      •  Of course, if Republicans would join with (0+ / 0-)

        Democrats to help people get enrolled in spite of the website problems, then this could all be dealt with.  That's what Democrats did when Medicare Part D had problems.  But of course, that's the opposite of what Republicans are doing now.

  •  What Boehner calls a "legislative coalition" (4+ / 0-)
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    skillet, shoeless, stellaluna, Matt Z

    is what one might call an overwhelming majority elected by the people. Funny, I thought that's what democracy is about, elections leading to laws being passed. Oh well.

  •  and knowing this... (3+ / 0-)
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    satrap, Losty, Victor Ward

    Obama not only left the door ajar, he left it wide open. He had three years to get this website right. Several States succeeded in getting exchanges set up. The president (for whom I voted four times counting primaries) failed. A failure so complete his competency as an executive seriously comes into question. After four+ years of on the job training....

    •  I want to agree with you, but (1+ / 0-)
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      I can't get my head around it in a logical way.  The story of the federal exhange failure, is I think, the story of a gargantuan project that may have TRULY needed more than 3 years.  

      I just have a hard time seeing him as a poor exec.

      From Neocon to sane- thanks to Obama- and Kos.

      by satrap on Thu Nov 14, 2013 at 07:47:26 AM PST

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    •  So Naive... (4+ / 0-)
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      Miggles, barkingcat, IM, Matt Z

      Y'all have never worked for either the Federal Government or a tech firm, right?  You do know that there are procurement rules, requirements definition challenges, contract monitors, budget limitations, etc., that must be adhered to?  Massive projects get set on deadlines that cannot be changed regardless of readiness?  Testing gets shortchanged in the name of roll-out?  Bugs get worked out in operation rather than beta testing?  None of what has actually happened with the main federal website is at all a surprise to anybody with even a hint of experience in these areas.  It's time to take a deep breath and just have patience with the process.  The law is a good one, and the website is just a tool.  Tools get fine-tuned as they are used.  All that is happening now is just political Chicken Little posturing and the I-told-you-so brigade making hay.  Each and every person signed up is a victory, those that have not yet are just little tiny future victories.  All y'all that keep wanting to push this back on Obama as a personal matter are acting like children.  Grow up and stop whining that your own personal expectations are not being met.

    •  Right. Because all of his "failures" happened (5+ / 0-)
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      Jerry056, barkingcat, Mgleaf, asm121, Matt Z

      under completely normal conditions.  No Congress refused to fund essential parts of the implementation.  No Congress refused to implement the necessary changes to make implementation run smoothly.  No billionaires spent billions trying to discredit and repeal the bill.  No politicians lied repeatedly about the bill, it's effects and it's scope (apparently the only "lie" that ever mattered was the President's) and the media has been 100% truthful and supportive of the ACA since it's inception.  And the President didn't have to deal with cabinet and essential Administration vacancies that the GOP blocks.  And of course, he hasn't had anything else to worry about like the GOP shutting down the Government, refusing to shut down the Government and refusing to pass a budget.

      I'm OK with saying the rollout is a disaster.  But to say this is indicative of the President's "competency as an executive" just simply ignores everything associated with the passage and implementation of the ACA.  And it totally discounts the unusual disrespect and obstructionism that this President has had to uniquely face.

      "Speak the TRUTH, even if your voice shakes."

      by stellaluna on Thu Nov 14, 2013 at 08:06:00 AM PST

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  •  Vote straight democratic party forever (2+ / 0-)
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    scott5js, catilinus

    Every single republican top to bottom needs to be voted out of office.
    No republican office holder should be allowed to run without an opponent.
    And the current democrats in office in the house and senate need to be reminded that should they become cowards and cut and run, that their money for reelection won't be forthcoming.

  •  Keep Your Crappy, Nothing's-Insured Insurance (5+ / 0-)

    The Party of Stupid supports their local charlatans who sell worthless insurance policies to desperate suckers......private death panels too.

  •  Obama to allow plans to be kept (0+ / 0-)

    Duration and scope unclear.

    "When dealing with terrorism, civil and human rights are not applicable." Egyptian military spokesman.

    by Paleo on Thu Nov 14, 2013 at 07:45:40 AM PST

    •  And that practically ends the ACA. (0+ / 0-)

      If they can keep selling inferior policies, they will.

      there go all good policies, There goes the mandate for good policies, and there goes the ACA.

      Time of Death: 11:15 AM EDT Today.

      •  No, they can't. Unlike some of the other bills th (2+ / 0-)
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        IM, Matt Z

        regulation will only allow people who already have such plans to keep them.  In other words, all existing plans will be grandfathered in but no new plans can be written unless they meet the new standards.  No different than how most building codes work.

        You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

        by Throw The Bums Out on Thu Nov 14, 2013 at 08:21:02 AM PST

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  •  If they keep their old plans (2+ / 0-)
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    stellaluna, barkingcat

    they do not get a subsidy.  They have to pay their own way and would be out of the bottom line of what the insurance would cost the treasury.  They are not very good plans to begin with and if the rubes insist on paying for a crap sandwich, let them.  That way there will be more funding for those that truly want and need it.  As the rubes say, freedom is not free.  So if they run out of coverage, no soup for them.  If they have to pay for their wellness, me cry.  If they get stuck with a huge drug bill for a cancer or other dread disease, see the freedom is not free above.  You cannot cure stupid with a mandate.  

  •  Boehner's violent war rhetoric regarding ACA (1+ / 0-)
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    is sickening.  He could've just as easily said, "we will take out our Bushmasters and our Sig Sauers and blow holes in this disgraceful law."  Faster Republicans!!  Kill Kill Kill!!!

    Please know I am not rude. I cannot rec anything from this browser. When I rec or post diaries I am a guest at some exotic locale's computer. Ayn is the bane!

    by Floyd Blue on Thu Nov 14, 2013 at 07:51:44 AM PST

  •  I wrote a diary on this today: (1+ / 0-)
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    Republicans Now Apparently Support an Actual Government Takeover of Health Care

    What I mean by that is, basically, the only way to guarantee that every insurance policy currently in effect will remain in effect in perpetuity and can never, ever be cancelled or changed is for the government to take over all the health insurance companies. Otherwise, these Keep Your Health Insurance Policy For Ever and Ever Because Obama Is A Lying Liar Act of 2013 bills are completely bogus.

    Republicans don't actually care if anyone gets to keep their health care. They just want to strut around feeling smugly self-satisfied that they were right all along and can now successfully kill the ACA.

  •  Who is Boehner pledging allegiance to in that pic? (0+ / 0-)

    Merlot bottles?

    Please know I am not rude. I cannot rec anything from this browser. When I rec or post diaries I am a guest at some exotic locale's computer. Ayn is the bane!

    by Floyd Blue on Thu Nov 14, 2013 at 08:06:30 AM PST

  •  I think they'll eventually succeed in repealing it (0+ / 0-)

    I mean, all that it takes is to get the Democrats in Congress to start quivering and playing along with Repubs in a misguided attempt to save themselves.

    The worst part is that this administration handed the Repubs plenty of ammunition.

    So, whether it's repealed entirely or totally hobbled, the ACA is probably going down, which plenty of help from Democrats.

    Remind me again why I bother voting?

  •  We believe ... They believe (1+ / 0-)
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    We believe that the PACA is the first step on the path to Single Payer ...  

    They believe that allowing substandard policies to be sold is the first step to repealing the Act.

    See ... EVERYONE HAPPY !  

    Especially the AHIP. (America's Health Insurance Plans)

  •  Boner shut the F**CK!! up (0+ / 0-)

    They are full of nothing but HATING the President

  •  Democrats In The House Better NOT Go Along With (0+ / 0-)

    this stealth "kill Obamacare" bill. It's called "junk insurance" for a reason - and the ACA mandated minimum health care coverage be provided by insurers for a reason. For years insurance companies have been getting away with taking people's money and not providing them with real coverage - the exclusions are a mile long. Then when someone gets sick or has an accident, people find out they have no coverage, despite paying the insurer thousands of dollars over the years. The taxpayer ends up footing the bill for health care for these "underinsured" people, all so the insurers can reap huge profits off of people who are either too unsophisticated to read the fine print in their policies, or are too poor to pay for a more expensive policy but not poor enough to qualify for Medicaid, or just plain desperate to get some type of health care coverage due to a pre-existing condition. It's time for that to stop, and I'm glad the ACA is putting a stop to it. Time for Obama to go on the offensive about this, and the Dems to stop panicking about it. However, to be blunt, Obama SHOULD HAVE explained this situation better to the public. Boehner's bill needs to be voted down - Dems should not give the Republicans any opening to destroy the ACA.

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