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Shaming the GOP for its determination to shave a few points off Democratic election turnout obviously hasn't had an impact. Unblushable, the party is still at it. Instead of doing all they can to encourage every eligible person to vote, Republicans have been relentlessly imposing new restrictions to make it harder:
Working ballot by ballot, county by county, the Republican Party is attempting to alter voting laws in the biggest and most important swing states in the country in hopes of carving out a sweeping electoral advantage for years to come.

Changes already on the books or in bills before state legislatures would make voting harder, create longer lines, and threaten to disenfranchise millions of voters from Ohio to Florida, Pennsylvania to Wisconsin, Georgia to Arizona and Texas.

In Florida on Monday, for instance, the secretary of state imposed new restrictions requiring completed absentee ballots to be returned solely to local supervisors' offices. This raised the eyebrows of a number of local election supervisors, including:
"The potential effect on voters is that it reduces opportunities for them to return their ballots," said Pinellas County Supervisor of Elections Deborah Clark, adding she was not consulted by the state. "This is not promoting ballot accessibility. I'm very worried about this. I'm just stunned."

Detzner's order could have its biggest impact in Pinellas, where Clark promotes voting absentee and is planning for the upcoming special election [in March] in Congressional District 13 to replace the late Rep. C.W. Bill Young.

In 2012, 250,000 voters cast absentee ballots in Pinellas county, more than in any other Florida county and more than 10 percent of the statewide total for absentees. Some 105,000 of those ballots, 42 percent, were dropped off at 14 branch locations chosen by Clark. Those are barred under the new rules.

The Brennan Center for Justice, which closely follows changes and attempted changes in voting laws, released a list earlier this month of what's been happening in the year since the 2012 presidential election. Among the findings:

• At least 90 restrictive bills have been introduced in 33 states.
• 18 of those bills are still pending in seven states.
• Eight states have already passed nine restrictive bills this session.

But there's a flip side. Brennan also found that at least 234 bills to expand access to voting have been introduced in the past year in 45 states. Ten states have passed 13 such bills and 78 bills are still pending in nine states.

The Presidential Commission on Election Administration set up by President Obama last March as a consequence of the long queues and other obstacles to voting last year is charged with improving the voting experience to establish best practices for states and localities holding elections. The commission began holding hearings in September and is supposed to present its report later this year. But its mandate is far too narrow. As Common Cause stated in a letter to the commission:

“The problems we saw on Election Day presented as long lines, inadequate poll worker trainings, and too few options to cast a ballot. But it is what is underneath these problems that should be the focus of our reform. The root cause of the problems we saw were antiquated voter registration systems, under-resourced election offices, and restrictive voting laws and deceptive practices targeted at minimizing participation by specific populations.”
Depending on a bipartisan commission to resolve issues that are, in great part, partisan in nature is a non-starter.

Originally posted to Meteor Blades on Tue Nov 26, 2013 at 10:20 AM PST.

Also republished by Daily Kos.

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  •  Tip Jar (119+ / 0-)

    Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

    by Meteor Blades on Tue Nov 26, 2013 at 10:20:17 AM PST

  •  I'm terrified of the manner in which this (52+ / 0-)

    is happening at the local level and thereby flying under our national radar.  This really needs to be fought at every level.  I hope we can put Howard Dean or a Howard Dean type on it.  

    Life is good. Injustice? Not so much.

    by westyny on Tue Nov 26, 2013 at 10:37:46 AM PST

    •  Don't be terrorized...Get angry... (0+ / 0-)

      ...controlled angry mind you...nonetheless get angry enough to give yourself the courage to ask your like minded friends to form writing groups to write impacting effective Lte's targeting the suppression of voters and list the states and policies being implemented. All the while growing your circle of like-minded members. Always keeping your Lte's factual...listing your suporting sources.

      Our nations quality of life is based on the rightousness of its people.

      by kalihikane on Wed Nov 27, 2013 at 09:20:20 PM PST

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  •  Conservatives hate American equality. (24+ / 0-)

    Voter suppression proves that.

    I think that would make a good and fair bumper sticker, highway sign, etc.

  •  Bipartisan (12+ / 0-)

    Is that even possible in today's politics? It's the stuff that would have violated the voting rights act that was recently gutted by the Supreme Court that's the issue, and the fact that at least 40 senators and the majority of the House want the VRA to remain broken isn't helping. I would put Ben Ginsberg in the "keep-it-broken" camp too.

    No, I don't have high hopes for this commission.

    •  "Bipartisanship" is a non-starter (10+ / 0-)

      It gave Reagan a free pass on Iran/contra.  It led to the unanimous Scalia confirmation, the Thomas confirmation,  and the acceptance of the theft of the 2000 election.  It gave us NAFTA, the Patriot Act, and the IWR.  It may give us the TPP in the not-too distant future.

      It should be avoided as a general rule, not pursued w/ great ardor.

      Some men see things as they are and ask why. I dream of things that never were and ask why not?

      by RFK Lives on Tue Nov 26, 2013 at 11:39:57 AM PST

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      •  Bipartisan suggests a different party than the GOP (1+ / 0-)
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        I think it's possible. The risk is that the GOP will be replaced by a Koch Tea Party, but it is clearly as bankrupt as the federalists were in 1812.

        Have you heard? The vice president's gone mad. - Bob Dylan, 1966

        by textus on Tue Nov 26, 2013 at 01:41:31 PM PST

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        •  The Republican Party, as a whole and (1+ / 0-)
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          as represented by its major factions, the 1%, the former Jim Crow/White Supremacist/Segregationists, the Religious Right, and the Tea Parties, is on its way out. The old racists, bigots, and misogynists are dying off at the regular rate in the regular way, and being replaced by people who just don't care about hating people. That leaves greed and the 1%, and a few more percent of 1% wannabes and hangers-on.

          Just as with the Federalist implosion, there is a possibility of a period of one-party Democratic government, and just as with the old time Democrats, there is a possibility of fracturing, with one of the fragments getting co-opted by the 1% and creating yet another party of wealth and big business, the Whigs. But the Federalists were irrelevant from 1815 until their complete disappearance and replacement by the Whigs in 1833. If we can get 18 years between the Republicans and their successors, we can get a lot done.

          Ceterem censeo, gerrymandra delenda est

          by Mokurai on Tue Nov 26, 2013 at 03:58:55 PM PST

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          •  It will happen more quickly (1+ / 0-)
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            Imagine, for a minute, Christie realizing a national GOP nomination is unattainable at the same time that a hunk of the party wants nothing to do with anyone else. Either he starts an Indie campaign or state parties break off their ballots from the national convention.

            Not impossible. Weird. Outrageous, but not impossible.

            Have you heard? The vice president's gone mad. - Bob Dylan, 1966

            by textus on Tue Nov 26, 2013 at 06:22:55 PM PST

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    •  Well, Deb Clark, the election supervisor (1+ / 0-)
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      quoted in the news piece as "stunned" by the Florida Sec of State's voter suppression tactics, is a Republican. Not all Republicans are rabid racist Tea Partiers.

      "All governments lie, but disaster lies in wait for countries whose officials smoke the same hashish they give out." --I.F. Stone

      by Alice in Florida on Tue Nov 26, 2013 at 04:29:19 PM PST

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  •  great to hear about the flip side (8+ / 0-)

    we often hear about the restrictive voting bills, which is maddening and frustrating. and some say democrats sitting on our asses, which is demotivating.

    but the flip side is good news. There have been more bills to expand voting rights  introduced than bills to restrict voting rights and more states have taken this step.

  •  Trying to sweep back the ocean with a broom (19+ / 0-)

    The GOP base, conservative whites, are getting old and dying. Instead of trying to expand their base by becoming less reactionary, they are trying to delay the day of judgement by trying to sweep back the ocean with a broom.
      It isn't going to work. At best it will delay the day of reckoning by a few years.

    None are so hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free. The truth has been kept from the depth of their minds by masters who rule them with lies. -Johann von Goethe

    by gjohnsit on Tue Nov 26, 2013 at 10:48:52 AM PST

  •  Who says the GOP doesn't pass bills? (16+ / 0-)

    They pass anti-Democratic AND anti-democratic bills pretty often.

    Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

    by a gilas girl on Tue Nov 26, 2013 at 11:03:33 AM PST

  •  Nothing is going to make voting more (11+ / 0-)

    popular then telling people they can't do it. If nothing else, theses legislative initiatives are keeping people engaged year round in something that used to only get highlighted every four years.
    Republican efforts are going to be counter-productive for the simple reason they can't look ahead. Though they've given up battling communists, they can't get off hippies and long hairs (which includes women, by the way) and all people who talk "funny."
    What Democrats need to do is recruit competent candidates for all public offices. All those 55+ people who are unemployed should be tapped for public positions. If they're collecting unemployment or disability insurance, so much the better. Some may not be customer to public speaking, but they need to be encouraged to give it a shot. It's not unusual for people to think they have stage fright and then when they get on their feet, they discover it disappears.
    We now know we can fund any campaign. There's plenty of money. We just have to move it around quicker.

    Obamacare at your fingertips: 1-800-318-2596; TTY: 1-855-889-4325

    by hannah on Tue Nov 26, 2013 at 11:11:28 AM PST

    •  Recruiting competent candidates (1+ / 0-)
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      means recruiting people who do have jobs--the fact is, someone who is unemployed and not of independent means is not going to make a credible candidate. People aren't looking for someone like themselves, they want candidates who inspire confidence. Anyone can take positions on issues, a candidate has to show leadership qualities and even a bit of charisma. It's not something that can be learned overnight, and people who have those qualities generally have good jobs. it's a matter of persuading those kinds of people who believe in Democratic principles to step up..we've been doing much better at this in Pinellas county in the last four to six years, it's starting to pay off.

      "All governments lie, but disaster lies in wait for countries whose officials smoke the same hashish they give out." --I.F. Stone

      by Alice in Florida on Tue Nov 26, 2013 at 04:23:07 PM PST

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      •  Republicans routinely put up trust-fund (0+ / 0-)

        babies who dabble in some enterprise or other. The attraction for the voter is the belief that people who are already rich won't be in public office to steal. The same argument can be made for a pensioner on a guaranteed income or even someone drawing unemployment. Indeed, the latter can be presented as people wanting to give something back for the benefits they've got.
        Who better to address whether or not public programs work than someone who's been a recipient?

        It's true that the instinct-driven respond to superficial optics, but we know that "appearances are deceiving" and that's precisely why we have so many do-nothings with good hair in office.

        Obamacare at your fingertips: 1-800-318-2596; TTY: 1-855-889-4325

        by hannah on Wed Nov 27, 2013 at 02:13:29 AM PST

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  •  I think this is one of the biggest threats we face (11+ / 0-)

    from the Republicans.  Demographic shift and likely far better Dem performance in 2020 will end the gerrymandered fake majority for the next decade - unless they can manage to block a lot of Dem voters from being able to vote, or make it difficult enough that wishy-washy voters don't bother.

    Republican threats amount to destroying the present if we don't allow them to destroy the future too. -MinistryOfTruth, 1/1/2013

    by sleipner on Tue Nov 26, 2013 at 11:11:32 AM PST

    •  U.S. Residents relocate their residence, on (5+ / 0-)

      average, every two years. That's whom the Cons are trying to keep from voting. "Transients" is how they typically refer to them.  Transients are annoying because, like cats, they are hard to herd. They expect public services, but refuse to do what they are told. So, the Cons can only cross their fingers and hope that roadblocks will keep them from the voting booths.
      The Cons don't feel they are discriminating because transients don't deserve to vote, in their estimation. Universal suffrage was OK as long as they assumed wives would vote like their husbands told them and youth would vote like mom and dad. But the demise of "family values" has thrown all those expectations out the window. So, more aggressive steps must be taken.

      Obamacare at your fingertips: 1-800-318-2596; TTY: 1-855-889-4325

      by hannah on Tue Nov 26, 2013 at 11:23:19 AM PST

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  •  We need a national Bill of Voting Rights (16+ / 0-)

    Sadly it'll probably never make it past the House, but if we push it and publicize it enough perhaps the blowback will hurt the local efforts and prevent the most egregious abuses.

    Republican threats amount to destroying the present if we don't allow them to destroy the future too. -MinistryOfTruth, 1/1/2013

    by sleipner on Tue Nov 26, 2013 at 11:12:44 AM PST

    •  And it would not need to be a complicated bill (4+ / 0-)

      Something like this:

      1) Three weeks prior to any federal election, early voting shall be allowed at any county or state registrar of voter office, from the hours of 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. Monday through Friday.
      2) Two weeks prior to any federal election, early voting shall be allowed at any county or state registrar of voter office, from the hours of 8 a.m. to 6 p.m. Monday through Friday, and from 9 a.m. to 2 p.m. on Saturday.
      3) One week prior to any federal election, early voting shall be allowed at any county or state registrar of voter office, from the hours of 8 a.m. to 6 p.m. Monday through Friday, 9 a.m. to 2 p.m. on Saturday, and noon to 4 p.m. on Sunday.
      4) The Monday before a Tuesday election voting shall be allowed at any county or state registrar of voter office, from the hours of 8 a.m. to 8 p.m.
      5) On election day, all polling places shall be open from 7 a.m. to 8 p.m. Every voter who is in line at 8 p.m. shall be allowed to vote.
      6) All absentee ballots shall be counted, and all challenged or provisional ballots that are determined to be valid shall be counted before an election is certified.


      --
      As through this world I've wandered,
      I've seen lots of funny men;
      Some will rob you with a six-gun,
      Some with a fountain pen.
      -- Woody Guthrie

      by Senor Unoball on Tue Nov 26, 2013 at 11:38:39 AM PST

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      •  "any county or state registrar of voter office" (3+ / 0-)
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        I think you can see the problem already.

        Asshole R's will just close and move offices as necessary.

        There needs to be provisions for locations based on population and distance.


        The Fail will continue until actual torches and pitchforks are set in motion. - Pangolin@kunstler.com

        by No one gets out alive on Tue Nov 26, 2013 at 12:43:58 PM PST

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        •  Good ideas (0+ / 0-)

          There should also be something to the extent that all precincts must have sufficient voting machines (if machines are used), or sufficient privacy booths (if paper ballots are used) to ensure that voting takes no longer than 15 minutes per person.


          --
          As through this world I've wandered,
          I've seen lots of funny men;
          Some will rob you with a six-gun,
          Some with a fountain pen.
          -- Woody Guthrie

          by Senor Unoball on Wed Nov 27, 2013 at 08:45:14 AM PST

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      •  You are being too reasonable.... (1+ / 0-)
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      •  You should take that to ALICE (2+ / 0-)
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        Ahianne, Senor Unoball

        the Progressive alternative to ALEC. ALICE is transparent and open to public participation.

        I have just submitted a model law proposal there for putting Keynesian stimulus spending during recessions into state constitutions, along with adequate taxes to create adequate rainy-day funds, and started a discussion with them on putting it into the correct form for further development. Its working title is the Unbalanced Budget Amendment, but I will ask whether George Lakoff can come up with something easier to sell.

        American Legislative and Issue Campaign Exchange

        Ceterem censeo, gerrymandra delenda est

        by Mokurai on Tue Nov 26, 2013 at 04:08:09 PM PST

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    •  I'm sure ALEC has one ready to go. (5+ / 0-)

      Voter ID required to cast the ballot.

      Voter ID must be obtained by one of a very limited set of conditions - two original (not photocopied) forms of government issued ID (one of which must bear a recent photo).  The other may be a social security card.  The address on the photo ID must match the voter registration address (to exclude people who are transient per hannah above).  The name on both IDs must exactly match the name being registered (which is the problem Texans including Wendy Davis ran into).  For purposes of this, a school ID is not considered a government ID, so this rules out many students (who would likely also have been ruled out by the address being different).  They'd probably also rule out anyone voting who isn't a citizen, in case there might be some election where a category like "resident alien" might be allowed to vote.

      New registrations will not be accepted in the 30 days (or whatever period is required for ballot initiatives or candidates to be on the printed ballot, whichever is greater)  prior to the election (getting rid of same-day registration and voting) since that encourages younger or more recently motivated populations to register.

      Get rid of online voter registration - require all registrations to be done in person, at government offices, so that the photo ID can be verified.  This also rules out voter registration drives.

      Signature at the polling place must exactly match the signature on record.  Signatures can be challenged by any of the party officials on hand to witness the voting and upon a challenge, the vote will be placed into a provisional status, only to be counted if the person returns to the government office by the end of the week to satisfy the clerk that their signature does indeed match.

      Unacceptable addresses for voters are PO boxes, apartment houses, group homes or business addresses, unless your name is on the lease as the owner of the business.

      I'm sure there are plenty more that could be thought up that might seem reasonable for some purpose but then when you start looking at all the ways it could cause a problem for a Democratic demographic, you'll see that it shaves points in favor of Republicans.

    •  I loudly applaude the idea of An American Voting (3+ / 0-)
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      Rights Bill. DO IT! DO IT! DO IT!  Just what did people think the Republicans were going to do after the SCOTUS struck down Section 5 of the original Voting Rights Bill? Those states that have Republican controlled governments are busy codifying every voting restriction text package that ALEC (working overtime) is able to produce. These legislatures are working at a frantic pace to make sure that the elections of 2014 are dominated by a massive Republican turnout and minimal access to the ballot box by Democratic populations. The Republicans are  practicing what I call "POLITICAL VOTE COMPOUNDING".

      This is a dogged scheme where the Republicans are busy disenfranchising Democratic voters by using all forms of registration rejection and other legislative obstacles with the long term goal of generating the highest level of voter fatigue among Democrats. This eventually will result in reducing the number of Democratic candidates winning local and national elections, thereby strengthening the hold of the Republican party's control over the government. The total effect is very similar to the monetary compounding effects that occurs over time in financial investments.

      A clear eyed perspective of the state of the nation where 30 plus states who have placed a tangled gross thicket of  exclusionary anti-voting legislative bills on the books which will take at least a decade to repeal - shows that the only reasonable cure is to codify voter's rights for unobstructed access to the ballot box must be guaranteed and enforced  from the national level.

      It has become crystal clear that this cannot be secured on the state level as demonstrated already in over 30 states.
       

  •  Maybe we should start pushing mail in voting in (8+ / 0-)

    more states. We have two good working models, Oregon & Washington state, that have been doing so for a number of years. Our turnout is consistently higher than average and pretty much trouble free.

    I know that there is some abuse of absentee voting in the Cuban enclaves of Florida, but by and large it seems to work well.

    I'd kind of like to counter the GOP's efforts by pushing mandatory voting, like Australia does, but that would likely cause more pushback and hurt things rather than help. Mail in voting should work better.

    Information is abundant, wisdom is scarce. ~The Druid.
    ~Ideals aren't goals, they're navigation aids.~

    by FarWestGirl on Tue Nov 26, 2013 at 11:42:35 AM PST

    •  Arizona early voting by mail (3+ / 0-)
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      is under attack by Republicans. The state passed a bill to remove voters from the early voting rolls and made it illegal for canvassers to pick up these mail ballots at voters' houses.
       Picking up ballots is a great way to GOTV.
       Busy working people tend to put away the ballots when they arrive so we visit our voters at home, get them completed and take them to the city or county.

      •  Unsurprising. A pain to not be able to drop the (0+ / 0-)

        votes directly, but even if you put them in the voter's mailbox, onsite, it puts them in federal custody and automatically makes messing with them from there a federal beef. Not a great solution, but advertising the rationale behind it should at least have some chilling effect against tampering.

        Information is abundant, wisdom is scarce. ~The Druid.
        ~Ideals aren't goals, they're navigation aids.~

        by FarWestGirl on Wed Nov 27, 2013 at 10:01:59 AM PST

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  •  Anyone here know if it's true that... (0+ / 0-)

    ...Repubs are proposing that expired hunting licenses be considered valid id for voting but not expired driver's licenses or current library cards or "welfare" cards?

    Government works when you elect those who want it to. --askyron (2013)

    by Simul Iustus et Peccator on Tue Nov 26, 2013 at 12:21:26 PM PST

    •  Hunting licenses (0+ / 0-)

      and gun permits are not accepted as valid ID in Florida (maybe because the state is too damn cheap to put people's pictures on them). And Florida is a solid ID state, has been over a dozen years, they don't even let you sign an affidavit any more--no ID, you get a provisional ballot, period.

      "All governments lie, but disaster lies in wait for countries whose officials smoke the same hashish they give out." --I.F. Stone

      by Alice in Florida on Tue Nov 26, 2013 at 04:14:11 PM PST

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  •  "Shaming" them?! (3+ / 0-)
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    Who has even tried? Certainly not our piece of shit mainstream media, which all but ignores their flagrant racism.

    #boycottmedia

    TS

    twitter: @Timeslayer_

    by Timeslayer on Tue Nov 26, 2013 at 12:36:34 PM PST

    •  Calling Spike Lee! (0+ / 0-)

      Spike,

      Make a movie about a Rethuglican pollwatcher in deepest Bedford-Stuyvesant who's a total dick but some unemployed street corner brothers save his life when for some reason there's a mistake and gunmen sent by the Koch Brothers are trying to kill him.  Maybe explain it by having the intended victim be "Al Sharpton" but this guy's name is "Albert Sharp" or something like that.  

      The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. -- John Kenneth Galbraith

      by Kangaroo on Tue Nov 26, 2013 at 01:45:53 PM PST

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  •  They may just push it too far (3+ / 0-)
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    Delays at the polls this month due to glitches with voters’ identifications could signal a bigger problem to come next year, when many more turn out for state and county elections.

    Thousands of voters had to sign affidavits or cast provisional ballots on Nov. 5 — the first statewide election held under the state’s new voter identification law — because their name on the voter rolls did not exactly match the name on their photo ID.

    Among those who had to sign affidavits were the leading candidates for governor next year, Republican Greg Abbott and Democrat Wendy Davis.
    http://www.dallasnews.com/...

    “Texas is a so-called red state, but you’ve got 10 million Democrats here in Texas. And …, there are a whole lot of people here in Texas who need us, and who need us to fight for them.” President Obama

    by Catte Nappe on Tue Nov 26, 2013 at 01:36:55 PM PST

  •  What amazes me (3+ / 0-)
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    are the number of people who legitimately believe that the vote is somehow not secure.

    Here's the deal: even without requiring voter ID, the registrar can probably figure out if you're not the person trying to cast the ballot.  Either you don't know the address on the registration card, or it's fairly obvious you're not the person.  Let's face it, if I show up and claim to be a dead person who was born in 1923, it's going to be pretty damn obvious to the registrar that I'm not 90 years old.

    And, after the fact, you can go in and look at the signatures.  If they don't match, you don't count the vote.  Simple as that.

    My favorite line, of course, is "well, you have to have ID to buy alcohol, why not to vote?"  To which my response is, have you ever bought alcohol?  Because even as a fairly young-looking 29-year-old, I rarely have to show ID to buy alcohol.

    29, white male, TX-07 (current), TN-09 (born), TN-08 (where parents live now)

    by TDDVandy on Tue Nov 26, 2013 at 01:39:54 PM PST

    •  After the fact, you can't not count (1+ / 0-)
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      the vote--it's already in the ballot box with all the others. Secret ballot you know, they aren't signed.

      And the fact the you haven't had your ID checked is not a persuasive argument for anything--maybe they recognize you because you buy so much booze (kidding!) or they're lazy…

      Of course, the real reason that IDs matter for alcohol is because kids will try to get it, the reason it's required for cashing a check is because people will try to pass bad checks, but no one really tries to vote twice because frankly most people don't consider it worth the trouble to vote once. All you get is an "I voted" sticker and the pride of having done the responsible thing--which you wouldn't have if you cheated.

      The only actual ballot fraud that ever happens involves things like elections for a local judge or other office where almost no one votes and it only takes a few dozen extra ballots to make a difference. Extra care in verifying identities and addresses of those requesting absentee ballots should be sufficient to deal with that sort of problem.

      "All governments lie, but disaster lies in wait for countries whose officials smoke the same hashish they give out." --I.F. Stone

      by Alice in Florida on Tue Nov 26, 2013 at 04:10:25 PM PST

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  •  These folks would impose laws restricting (5+ / 0-)

    the vote to male property holders and reintroduce the Poll Tax* if they could. Hell, the Koch Bros. and their cronies want to return the election of Senators to the state leges.

    This should be totally alarming to everyone, including main-stream Republicans.

    * I posit that these odious Voter ID laws are nothing but an end run around the prohibition of a Poll Tax.

  •  Nothing says "The GOP is toast" more than this (1+ / 0-)
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    An expanding, or confident, or honest political party never does this sort of thing. A political party - or ideology - that believes in what it is preaching and that it's principles are right, never does this sort of thing.

    This is what Hitler does. This is what Hugo Chavez (I know I'm gonna get angry comments about listing him here, but I don't care), or Stalin, or Pol Pot, or every single tin pot dictator or military putsch on the left or the right has done throughout history as a prelude to the massive civil rights crackdown on the opposition.

    The next step would be the confiscations of property, bank accounts and businesses. Then...the imprisonments, disappearances, and street violence.

    Finally, comes the full blown police state and '1984."

    That's where we're all headed unless we stop these people.

    •  Your historical ignorance is showing (0+ / 0-)

      The easy way to fix elections is to have only your candidate on the ballot. That is what Stalin and Saddam Hussein both did, along with many others running single-party states.

      What you should be talking about in the US context is Tammany Hall in New York City and Mayor Daley in Chicago and a number of other political machines that bought votes, arranged for people to vote multiple times in the names of other voters and the dead, rigged voting machines, threw away ballots, stuffed ballot boxes, and so on.

      The worst case of voting fraud in history from a Republican point of view is that of "Landslide" Lyndon Johnson in Texas, which led to his distinguished and frequently corrupt career in the House, the Senate, and the White House as both a war criminal and the champion of the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act, and the Great Society. Jackie Robinson said of the Republican reaction to these measures that he had never seen such hatred directed at a White man.

      So don't tell Republicans that voter fraud isn't a problem.

      Ceterem censeo, gerrymandra delenda est

      by Mokurai on Tue Nov 26, 2013 at 04:23:07 PM PST

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  •  Is it not time to go RICO? (2+ / 0-)
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    The National Republican Party is a corrupt organization devoting its energies to violating the 15th Amendment, through it the 14th amendment, the first four articles of the Constitution, and in particular any enforcement of Baker v Carr. It codified dirty tricks, obscured political finance, a perversion of both freedom of speech and freedom of association in which money is speech and organizations that don't exist have the right to raise unlimited money. It gerrymanders. It pulls pranks like the 2000 Florida purge of supposed felons who happened to have similar names of Texans convicted of misdemeanors.

    There isn't fixing such an organization. If aggressive litigation can destroy Arthur Anderson, why not the GOP. It really needs destroying.

    Have you heard? The vice president's gone mad. - Bob Dylan, 1966

    by textus on Tue Nov 26, 2013 at 01:46:38 PM PST

    •  No. It's time for a new VRA. (2+ / 0-)
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      It should be agenda item number 1 in January 2015 when the Dems control everything.

      Kill the legislative filibuster, then pass a sweeping federal voting rights protection act.

      Then, require any voter regulations beyond those permitted in the act in all 50 states to be presumptively invalid unless the state can produce evidence in a court of law, beyond a reasonable doubt, that more than 1% of the votes case in any federal election were fraudlent, or that any single election was decided by a fraudulently cast vote.

      So, the new laws can only be passed if a Court shows beyond a reasonable doubt they meet the voter fraud thresshold. And, that evidence will be vetted by federal judicial procedures.

      Also, anyone who is deprived of the right to vote can sue the jurisdiction that committed the offense for up to $1 million, and the restoration of their vote. And, the jurisdiction -- or officers of the Jurisdiction - shall be liable if the voter can prove they were a valid voter at the time of the offense, and made a good faith effort to establish that, but were denied the right to vote in any case.

  •  Hey dumb lady from Obama's press conference... (0+ / 0-)

    ...this is what "a political war" actually looks like.

  •  I think resisting voter ID may be a mistake (2+ / 0-)
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    Even if the perception of fraud is way overblown, it doesn't make Democrats look good if they fight against it.  Many people I know who are not even close to being Republicans are OK with some kind of voter ID.  I would rather devote resources into removing barriers from obtaining such IDs that currently exist. such as charging a fee or requiring a visit to the DMV even if you don't drive.  

    •  That's the thing about voter ID (3+ / 0-)
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      It sounds like such an obvious idea.  By itself, requiring photo ID to vote is not at all offensive and in fact sounds like a really good idea.

      Honestly, the better track for Democrats to take is to go along with the voter ID laws but just make sure that every voter has the proper ID.  This will help people in other ways as well: try cashing a check if you don't have photo ID, for example.

      29, white male, TX-07 (current), TN-09 (born), TN-08 (where parents live now)

      by TDDVandy on Tue Nov 26, 2013 at 01:57:15 PM PST

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    •  We should propose a national ID be created (0+ / 0-)

      that every citizen has a right to have to ensure their right to vote even if they do not drive--it would be a great idea, because the Tea Partiers would be terrified of it.

      "All governments lie, but disaster lies in wait for countries whose officials smoke the same hashish they give out." --I.F. Stone

      by Alice in Florida on Tue Nov 26, 2013 at 03:57:21 PM PST

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  •  Shine a spotlight, the cockroaches flee. (2+ / 0-)
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    Very entitled, very greedy cockroaches--a moneyed old political guard of aging, angry white males--will take longer to flee. But it'll sooner or later find itself surrounded, given relentless publicity, and see no choice but to slink off.

    Thanks for the diary.

    It's here they got the range/ and the machinery for change/ and it's here they got the spiritual thirst. --Leonard Cohen

    by karmsy on Tue Nov 26, 2013 at 01:58:13 PM PST

  •  Thank you, once again :) n/t (2+ / 0-)
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  •  Sad indeed (0+ / 0-)

    that we who so loudly proclaim our great Democracy, have sat by long enough that we are now fighting just so that we may all vote.

    Common Sense is not Common

    by RustyBrown on Tue Nov 26, 2013 at 02:37:18 PM PST

  •  Is it really any harder to mail the ballot to the (0+ / 0-)

    public official that actually will be counting it?   It would seem that having a lot of remote sites could lead to ballots getting "lost" from unsecured remote ballot boxes.  

    This seems to be a way to prevent any hanky panky, not create it.   What am I missing?

    Unwitting privileged genetic lottery winner and economic engine

    by SpamNunn on Tue Nov 26, 2013 at 02:52:26 PM PST

    •  In 2004, a bunch of ballots got lost (0+ / 0-)

      in the Supervisor of Elections office in our county (most were for Kerry, but not enough to make a difference). There have not been any notable problems with the remote sites, other than the fact that they make it too convenient for non-Republicans to vote (actual Republicans never have to worry about their absentee ballots being turned in, the party has had an excellent ballot wrangling operation since the early 2000s).

      "All governments lie, but disaster lies in wait for countries whose officials smoke the same hashish they give out." --I.F. Stone

      by Alice in Florida on Tue Nov 26, 2013 at 03:51:32 PM PST

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    •  And what "hanky panky" (1+ / 0-)
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      would you be suggesting? Do you realize that there is absolutely no individual advantage to be gained by voting? That's one reason most people hardly ever vote--there's really nothing in it for them other than the satisfaction of having done their civic duty.

      "All governments lie, but disaster lies in wait for countries whose officials smoke the same hashish they give out." --I.F. Stone

      by Alice in Florida on Tue Nov 26, 2013 at 03:54:38 PM PST

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      •  The Greeks had a name for this view (1+ / 0-)
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        That name is "idiotes", meaning a person who considered politics solely as a matter of personal benefit and declined to take part. In opposition to the concepts of shared benefits and civic duty.

        Whence our word, "idiot".

        Ceterem censeo, gerrymandra delenda est

        by Mokurai on Tue Nov 26, 2013 at 04:27:57 PM PST

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  •  looks like they'll get Illinois next (0+ / 0-)

    in part because the state did not set up its own healthcare exchange.

    "Your victory has demonstrated that no person anywhere in the world should not dare to dream of wanting to change the world for a better place." -- Mandela

    by agoldnyc on Wed Nov 27, 2013 at 12:14:35 PM PST

  •  Call it what it is...Republican extremists... (0+ / 0-)

    ...attempts to control election outcomes via restrictive State voter policies that have to be anti-American and in violation of our Constitution and Bill of Rights.  

    Our nations quality of life is based on the rightousness of its people.

    by kalihikane on Wed Nov 27, 2013 at 09:13:06 PM PST

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