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Ah, the joys of Republican presidents....

“The old bitch !!” said Richard Nixon of Indira Gandhi."Indians are cunning, traitorous people." “I don’t know why the hell anybody would reproduce in that damn country but they do."  

So he and Kissinger, the original NeoCon, supplied guns and bullets and covered up with media for Pakistan's Muslim army killing 300,000 mostly Hindus and driving 10,000,000 Hindus out of Bangladesh. Another 800,000 civilians were killed by one hand or another.

It's something in the Republican water.

There's Ronald Reagan ordering the gunners on U.S. Navy ships off Beirut, Lebanon to open fire on the suburbs. All told they killed 1,500 civilians, much of it after reagan had been driven out of his mini-occupation. The justification from Ronnie: "Teach them a lesson."

Or Bush43. Attacking the wrong country after 9/11 so he could be a War President.

Lovely people, not.

You want to read "The Blood Telegram" by Gary J. Bass to get the full flavor of masculine fantasy among Republicans. To understand what comes when these txrd/shxts do murder to show off for their country club cronies.

Why avoid Republican presidents ??? Because the GOP nominates high-function psychopaths?

Do you need more of a reason than that?

Reader reviews of the book add eye witness reportage. Below the orange muffin:

The story won't be complete without the gallant, humane and honest officers in the State Dept, Sen.Ted Kennedy and journalists like Sydney Schanberg of NYT. Archer Blood, the Consul General in Dacca, and his deputies put up a tremendous struggle against the policy conducted by Nixon. In the process, many of them jeopardised their careers for good. Kenneth Keating, the US ambassador to India, was another sterling personality, fighting his own govt's indifference to genocide. Ted Kennedy visited India and toured the refugee centers and fought for the Bengalis in Capitol Hill. In a lighter vein, it so happened that while the massive blood letting and killings were going on in East Pakistan, the three officers in the Dacca Consulate who fought for justice for the Bengalis, were named Blood, Butcher and Killgore!"

For me as a person of Indian origin, it was a surprise to read that 90% of all those 10 million refugees from East Bengal were Hindus. This information was never highlighted in the Indian media in 1970-71. I think it was good that they did not because otherwise, we might have had to deal with sectarian groups in India which would have tried to convert the crisis into a crisis for Muslims in India. The other point is that India, for all its proclamations of non-alignment and third-world solidarity, found itself completely without friends from the world at large and was censured in the UN General Assembly. India had to depend on the USSR mostly for diplomatic support and had to fund the refugee relief mainly from its own impoverished masses. India's 'friends' in the Islamic world, like Jordan, Turkey, Iran and Egypt, transferred fighter aircraft to bolster their Islamic bretheren in Pakistan, even though India had more Muslims than Pakistan in 1971!

It shows the deep failure of India's conduct of foreign policy in the early years after independence. The Indian edition of the book has the strange title 'India's Secret war in East Pakistan'. Even for ordinary citizens like me in India in 1971, there was nothing secretive about India's involvement in East Pakistan as early as March 1971. We used to habitually joke that it was probably the Bengal regiment of the Indian army that is euphemistically called Mukti Bahini! Finally, it is a matter of pride for India's pluralist society that the three Generals who conducted and won the war were a Sikh (J.S.Aurora), a Parsi (Sam Manekshaw) and a Sephardic Jew(Rafael-Jacob).

-- Ragu Nathan

And similarly:

The Blood Telegram is an absolutely critical book, outlining not only the mass-murder of Bengalis in 1971 but also the absolute and utter degradation of the spirit implicit in imperial policy (in this case that of the U.S.). While the slaughter in Vietnam continued under the bellicose and paranoid regime of Nixon and Kissinger, another, more time-intense slaughter happened a little to the West in one of the world's poorest countries- what is now Bangladesh. Very likely millions were wantonly slaughtered (and scores of thousands raped) in the West Pakistani pogrom against an East Pakistani population yearning to be free.
-- Romi Mahajan

The book quotes Nixon from his own audio tape archive. The comments about India parallel Nixon and Kissinger's hatred for the Vietnamese.

We're the civilized people in America. They're not.

Consider McCain and Mitt Romney. What would those two be like if they had the U.S. military to use for murders?

Nothing has changed. It's not going to change. Not with Republicans while they pick leaders same as 1960 to 2012.

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  •  Hoaxes 101: "They all do it." (21+ / 0-)

    Republicans push the notion that all politicians are crooks and killers. That every president is a psycho under the public mask.

    They aim to devalue voting. To discourage Democrats from going to the polls. To tell their voters that anti-abortion votes are all that matters.

    Really ???

    The worst we have with Democrats was Bill Clinton ignoring the genocide in Uganda. He certainly did not support the killers.

    Agha Mohammad Yahya Khan was supported with guns and ammunition to help carry out this 1971 genocide. Nixon decided on that policy with full knowledge of what was happening.

    Co-conspirator Nixon.

    Reagan was a piker way of comparison. Murdering 1,500 civilians at Beirut in 1982/1983/1984 barely gets him into Hell.

    Ronnie was no Nixon, no Bush43.

  •  Yikes! (8+ / 0-)

    I knew Nixon was bad but I had no idea.

    If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low... oh you oughta see it sometime. It's a sight. A big plane like a '52... varrrooom! Its jet exhaust... frying chickens in the barnyard!

    by Major Kong on Mon Dec 02, 2013 at 10:47:55 AM PST

  •  um.. (14+ / 0-)

    LBJ

    Vietnam

    Cambodia

    God spare me the Heart to fight them... I'll fight the Pirates forever. -Mother Jones

    by JayRaye on Mon Dec 02, 2013 at 10:59:36 AM PST

    •  And Indonesia (12+ / 0-)

      God spare me the Heart to fight them... I'll fight the Pirates forever. -Mother Jones

      by JayRaye on Mon Dec 02, 2013 at 11:07:22 AM PST

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    •  Um... consult timeline for Vietnam War. (5+ / 0-)

      Sure thing, Johnson and McNamara and crew were fools to get into Vietnam after the Kennedy assassination. there's more ways to be crazy than following Kissinger/NeoCon power politics.

      Johnson didn't run in 1968.

      Then the Cambodian invasion was in the 1970s with Nixon. And that was kicked off when PAVN moved four divisions into Cambodia.

      The genocide with Pol Pot reached its peak in 1975 when his Khmer Rouge captured Phnom Penh and slaughtered tens of thousands of city dwellers. The killing went on for years.

      (Reportedly, Pol Pot was not a Republican.)

      •  Operation Menu (9+ / 0-)
        An official United States Air Force record of US bombing activity over Indochina from 1964 to 1973 was declassified by US president Bill Clinton in 2000. The report gives details of the extent of the bombing of Cambodia, as well as of Laos and Vietnam. According to the data, the Air Force began bombing the rural regions of Cambodia along its South Vietnam border in 1965 under the Johnson administration. This was four years earlier than previously believed. The Menu bombings were an escalation of these air attacks. Nixon authorized the use of long-range B-52 bombers to carpet bomb the region.
        http://en.wikipedia.org/...

        Neither is Pol Pot a U.S. President, this diary is about U.S. Presidents.

        No one here supports Pol Pot, so you can put that canard away.

        God spare me the Heart to fight them... I'll fight the Pirates forever. -Mother Jones

        by JayRaye on Mon Dec 02, 2013 at 11:26:14 AM PST

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      •  I remember when the Vietnam War started--in order (9+ / 0-)

        to save them/us from Communism or some such. Totally stupid.  Casius Clay/Mohammed Ali was so right when he remarked that no Vietnam person had ever harmed him. And he was so brave to refuse the draft.

        At the time I wrote a letter to the editor suggesting that instead of bombing north Vietnam we just parachute down farm implements and consumer goods to lure 'em away from Communism.  Much less costly and much more effective.

        Our Cold War tactics set us up for nearly endless war. It was the stupidest we have been up until the Bush Jr. era. By then the "neo-cons" had figured out that the draft was too democratic and resulted in civil disobedience.  So they just set up a system where young people who had few or no options were suckered into our steal-the-oil war in Iraq.  (Not, of course, steal the oil from Bush partners the Saudies.)

        The right of the women of this State to be secure in their persons against unreasonable searches shall not be violated by the State legislature.

        by Mayfly on Mon Dec 02, 2013 at 01:40:02 PM PST

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        •  Such an appropriate notion--parachuting useful ite (5+ / 0-)

          My friend who lives in Laos sends me photographs of the tons of ordnance dropped on that country being used still for countless things--from homemade bellows, to bridges, to supports for houses, to fence posts.  In those poor, rural cultures, our discarded bombs represent significant wealth even these decades later.  The mismatch in power between the US and Laos, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Yemen--it makes calling these massacres "wars" shameful.  We don't give a second thought to the millions of dollars wasted bombing farmers in Southeast Asia, certainly few of us seem to remember then millions of deaths caused by lying politicians who still seem to be making the decisions.

          Secrecy is a hot bed of vanity. - Joseph Brodsky They who have put out the people’s eyes reproach them for their blindness. – John Milton 1642

          by geomoo on Mon Dec 02, 2013 at 02:55:03 PM PST

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        •  You can probably guess who volunteered (1+ / 0-)
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          for that war.

          "Totally stupid."

          You're too kind. To all of us who got sucked.

          •  No, it is all too easy to fool an idealistic young (1+ / 0-)
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            person to the accompaniment of flying flags, drum beating, and  Super-Bowl fervor.  

            IMO the most important thing to teach our children is skepticism, and very few parents do that.

            The right of the women of this State to be secure in their persons against unreasonable searches shall not be violated by the State legislature.

            by Mayfly on Tue Dec 03, 2013 at 05:55:30 AM PST

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    •  Book makes Nixon & Kissinger look very bad (2+ / 0-)
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      (I've read the book).  But they were/are (Kissinger is still alive) no more neoconservatives than LBJ was.

      The influence of the [executive] has increased, is increasing, and ought to be diminished.

      by lysias on Mon Dec 02, 2013 at 02:15:00 PM PST

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    •  Nope. (1+ / 0-)
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      Gulf of Tonkin, not Cambodia.

      LBJ, Van Cliburn, Ike, Wendy Davis, Lady Bird, Ann Richards, Barbara Jordan, Molly Ivins, Sully Sullenburger, Drew Brees: Texas is NO Bush League!

      by BlackSheep1 on Mon Dec 02, 2013 at 06:54:53 PM PST

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      •  They're confusing Nixon going into Cambodia (1+ / 0-)
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        full force with what LBJ did. Always blame a Democrat !!

        Vietnam has been forgotten more than not.

        On balance that puts us at greater risk. Easier for Bush & Co. to sell us on fighting in Afghanistan. Easier to go into Iraq.

        Easier the next time.

      •  Not confusing anything: (2+ / 0-)
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        An official United States Air Force record of US bombing activity over Indochina from 1964 to 1973 was declassified by US president Bill Clinton in 2000. The report gives details of the extent of the bombing of Cambodia, as well as of Laos and Vietnam. According to the data, the Air Force began bombing the rural regions of Cambodia along its South Vietnam border in 1965 under the Johnson administration. This was four years earlier than previously believed. The Menu bombings were an escalation of these air attacks. Nixon authorized the use of long-range B-52 bombers to carpet bomb the region.
        See link above (which you would have seen had you bothered to read further).

        Of course those of us in the peace movement knew that Johnson was bombing both Vietnam and Cambodia, that information was available long before Clinton declassified those records in 2000.

        God spare me the Heart to fight them... I'll fight the Pirates forever. -Mother Jones

        by JayRaye on Mon Dec 02, 2013 at 07:47:55 PM PST

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      •  Cambodia one of the most heavily bombed countries (2+ / 0-)
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        The still-incomplete database [Released by Clinton] (it has several “dark” periods) reveals that from October 4, 1965, to August 15, 1973, the United States dropped far more ordnance on Cambodia than was previously believed: 2,756,941 tons’ worth, dropped in 230,516 sorties on 113,716 sites. Just over 10 percent of this bombing was indiscriminate, with 3,580 of the sites listed as having “unknown” targets and another 8,238 sites having no target listed at all. The database also shows that the bombing began four years earlier than is widely believed—not under Nixon, but under Lyndon Johnson. The impact of this bombing, the subject of much debate for the past three decades, is now clearer than ever. Civilian casualties in Cambodia drove an enraged populace into the arms of an insurgency that had enjoyed relatively little support until the bombing began, setting in motion the expansion of the Vietnam War deeper into Cambodia, a coup d’état in 1970, the rapid rise of the Khmer Rouge, and ultimately the Cambodian genocide.
        http://walrusmagazine.com/...

        God spare me the Heart to fight them... I'll fight the Pirates forever. -Mother Jones

        by JayRaye on Mon Dec 02, 2013 at 08:15:42 PM PST

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  •  The Republicans will not be satisfied (4+ / 0-)

    until the next duly elected GOP President is crowned Emperor of the World. I would suggest that after that coronation, he should immediately make a pilgrimage to the the tomb of Wilhelm II and make a state visit to the Emperor of Japan.

    ;)

  •  well after the partition (2+ / 0-)
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    where 3 million people died in hand to hand fighting,

    this seems small.

    Someday, I should write a book about the 1st Sikh Battalion and the defense of Srinigar.

  •  People are upset about the New Jersey Shelling? (1+ / 0-)
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    Seriously, in this day and age?  

    It shot some anti-aircraft positions, and killed several high ranking members of the Syrian military.  "Hundreds" of civilian casualties were alleged, but no one was able to produce any corresponding bodies.

    I haven't heard of that "controversy" in something like two decades...

    •  That bit about bodies missing (0+ / 0-)

      is absurd. They keep excellent records.

      And the New Jersey was kept around to flatten residential areas through into May of 1984. The peak firing rate ran to 288 and 290 16" shells a day. Those firings happened after the Marine BLT Barracks retaliation bombing in October, 1983.

      Syrian AA batteries ??? That's ridiculous. The Syrians were out to the east of the city, not engaged with Christian Felangists. Syrians and Iranians who got killed were among the many, many who got killed from point-and-shoot mayhem.

      All the NJ firings came after Reagan had turned tail and pulled out the U.S. troops. No purpose at all, but "Teach them a lesson."

      Yeah, Reagan was a murderer. Kinda loopy about it.

      •  Care to share these excellent records? (1+ / 0-)
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        Syrian AA batteries ??? That's ridiculous. The Syrians were out to the east of the city, not engaged with Christian Felangists. Syrians and Iranians who got killed were among the many, many who got killed from point-and-shoot mayhem.
        They shot at the US aircraft as they went over, until they were shelled by the USS New Jersey.  I guess you could argue whether they were actually destroyed by the bombardment or not, but further flights were not attacked.
        •  The Syrian AA batteries were too far east (0+ / 0-)

          for NJ to hit. Believe it, the Syrians had a copy of Jaynes.

          What did happen is that the AA took down two U.S. planes in December 1983. Other U.S. planes tried to retaliate. Then after a week sitting around, BigJ was used to fire rounds on Syrian positions in close to the new U.S. embassy compound. That was not an AA site.

          The problem with trying to shoot up the AA positions from BigJ is that the 16-inch shells have a 28 mile range. That's not enough to come in near shore and hit the AA batteries without risking missile attack.

          Yeah, cruise missiles and kamikazi light planes are cheap. Send them 30 at a time and it gets messy. Modern shape charge weapons and thermobarics -- enough to raise Hell down a smokestack.

          The crew runs close to 2,000 sailors as well. After the Marine barracks, imagine losing that.

          The battleships got used again during the Gulf War. As decorations.

    •  Sledgehammers make rather poor flyswatters (3+ / 0-)
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      If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low... oh you oughta see it sometime. It's a sight. A big plane like a '52... varrrooom! Its jet exhaust... frying chickens in the barnyard!

      by Major Kong on Mon Dec 02, 2013 at 01:25:08 PM PST

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    •  Well, however many it may have killed, it amounted (1+ / 0-)
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      to taking sides in a civil war, and so provoked the Muslims in Lebanon that they proceeded to bomb first the U.S. embassy, and then the Marine barracks.

      The influence of the [executive] has increased, is increasing, and ought to be diminished.

      by lysias on Mon Dec 02, 2013 at 02:16:57 PM PST

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      •  Reagan had also allied with Saddam (0+ / 0-)

        so's he could help kill him some Iranians.

        That got Iran interested in getting retaliation.

        The locals got the embassy. Then for the Marine barracks, Iran explained the mechanics of doing thermobaric shock waves.

        Liquid butane + PETN + marble base = Hell of a blast.

        Powders reinforced concrete.

        That truck bomb flattened Marine BLT Barracks. Killed 241.

        Latrer the Lebanese tried to copy Iranian technology in Kuwait. But their attempt failed.

  •  UN Peace Keeping in Beirut (1+ / 0-)
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    was "Reagan's mini occupation"? now, that's revisionist

    "My case is alter'd, I must work for my living." Moll Cut-Purse, The Roaring Girl - 1612, England's First Actress

    by theRoaringGirl on Mon Dec 02, 2013 at 04:08:10 PM PST

    •  Peacekeeping --> Siding with Christian (1+ / 0-)
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      Felangists.

      Yeah, that's moving a sensible idea, copying Eisenhower, over to a mini-occupation.

      Reagan also opened the door for the Felangists to slaughter Palestinians at Sabra and Shatila. Thousands of unarmed victims: older men, women, children.

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