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The 'Best' of Fox 2013 Tournament continues with a great matchup between Bill O'Reilly's claim that Jesus lived in order to free the Jews from taxation and Fox's (short-lived) decision to try to rename the debt limit to be "the spending limit." Which was crazier? We report—you decide.

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  •  Changing the language (7+ / 0-)

    Renaming things is a frequent conservative propaganda technique. I don't know that they ever matched their success at making "liberal" a dirty word. That's a pretty high bar. Hard to do worse than trying to rename suicide bombers as "homicide bombers". Didn't take, and who knows why they thought that would help. "Spending limit" was potentially pernicious because it played into the common ignorance of what the debt ceiling is, and it sounds like a common sense good idea as long as no thought is put into it. We may have dodged a bullet that this one failed.

    •  One thing's clear (2+ / 0-)
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      TrueBlueMajority, TerryDarc

      fox can't do it by themselves.  They think they can, but they can't. That's pretty much why "homicide bombers" failed. No one else would refer to them as such.  Even with the help of their political wing, the republican party, fox cannot do it by themselves.

      A learning experience is one of those things that says, 'You know that thing you just did? Don't do that.' Douglas Adams

      by dougymi on Tue Dec 24, 2013 at 08:55:28 AM PST

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      •  Homicide bombers (1+ / 0-)
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        I think the real reason it failed is that "homicide bombers" makes more sense when it's applied to combatants who drop bombs from a distance with little to no risk to themselves. Too many people noticed that a phrase like "homicide bombers" - when used in the most sensible and logical manner - is really a direct slam on the military.

        Much better to use "suicide bombers" and "bombers" instead of dragging "homicide" into the phrases.

        Patriotism is the FIRST refuge of the scoundrel.

        by Tony Seybert on Tue Dec 24, 2013 at 11:43:17 AM PST

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    •  It started with "Pro-Life" (2+ / 0-)
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      And we got the "death tax".

      But the one that gets to me the most is "entitlements".  Those are our savings accounts.  But it makes us all sound like we feel "entitled".

      Government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth - Abraham Lincoln

      by Gustogirl on Tue Dec 24, 2013 at 10:21:43 AM PST

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    •  "It's A Beautiful Thing, The Destruction Of Words" (0+ / 0-)
      Of course the great wastage is in the verbs and adjectives, but there are hundreds of nouns that can be got rid of as well. It isn't only the synonyms; there are also the antonyms. After all, what justification is there for a word, which is simply the opposite of some other word? A word contains its opposite in itself. Take ‘good,’ for instance. If you have a word like ‘good,’ what need is there for a word like ‘bad’? ‘Ungood’ will do just as well – better, because it's an exact opposite, which the other is not. Or again, if you want a stronger version of ‘good,’ what sense is there in having a whole string of vague useless words like ‘excellent’ and ‘splendid’ and all the rest of them? ‘Plusgood’ covers the meaning or ‘doubleplusgood’ if you want something stronger still. Of course we use those forms already, but in the final version of Newspeak there'll be nothing else. In the end the whole notion of goodness and badness will be covered by only six words – in reality, only one word. Don't you see the beauty of that, Winston? It was B.B.'s idea originally, of course," he added as an afterthought.

      Men are so necessarily mad, that not to be mad would amount to another form of madness. -Pascal

      by bernardpliers on Tue Dec 24, 2013 at 10:31:59 AM PST

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  •  As the Finance Police pull you over for Spending (2+ / 0-)
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    TerryDarc, annieli

    2 Trillion in a 1 Trillion Zone.

    I want 1 less Tiny Coffin, Why Don't You? Support The President's Gun Violence Plan.

    by JML9999 on Tue Dec 24, 2013 at 08:54:53 AM PST

  •  Jesus died for the sins of the Romans (taxation). (5+ / 0-)

    Christianity was then founded to provide a path for mankind to have eternal 501(c) tax status.

    O'Reilly was a history teacher in the day. He should know this complicated stuff. Read his books. It's all in there.

    Caution: The reality in the mirror may be closer than it appears.

    by glb3 on Tue Dec 24, 2013 at 09:03:14 AM PST

  •  Democrats are the New Centurions! (0+ / 0-)

    Ave O'Reilly Caesar

    Warning - some snark may be above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ eState4Column5©2013 "I’m not the strapping young Muslim socialist that I used to be" - Barack Obama 04/27/2013

    by annieli on Tue Dec 24, 2013 at 09:28:41 AM PST

  •  Not even close. (0+ / 0-)

    And this seed is only #14?  Do we even want to know what #1 is?

    The thing about quotes on the internet is you cannot confirm their validity. ~Abraham Lincoln

    by raboof on Tue Dec 24, 2013 at 09:52:26 AM PST

  •  Anything from Fox combining the words (3+ / 0-)

    "Jews" and "Jesus" will shoot way to the top of the batshit insane chart. It never fails.

    And God said, "Let there be light"; and with a Big Bang, there was light. And God said "Ow! Ow My eyes!" and in a flash God separated light from darkness. "Whew! Now that's better. Now where was I. Oh yea . . ."

    by Pale Jenova on Tue Dec 24, 2013 at 10:08:35 AM PST

    •  Let there be light... (1+ / 0-)
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      Pale Jenova

      December 25th is Sir Isaac Newton's birthday, according to the calendar in use in England at the time.  Fittingly enough, the entire calendar had to be changed because of the slowing down of the rotation of the earth from gravitational forces.

      But then, there's this:

      Nature and nature's laws lay hid in night;
      God said "Let Newton be" and all was light.
      It could not last; the Devil shouting "Ho!
      Let Einstein be!" restored the status quo.
  •  I LOVE THIS ! (0+ / 0-)

    CRAZY , huh ?

  •  Every Real Republican Christian who (0+ / 0-)

    believes the Bible is literal truth knows that when Jesus said "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's" he really meant "let's lock and load and take back this country so the rich don't have to pay any taxes."

    Just another underemployed IT professional computer geek.

    by RhodeIslandAspie on Tue Dec 24, 2013 at 11:51:48 AM PST

  •  This was one of the few easy matchupst (0+ / 0-)

    Fox reinventing the vocabulary of government economy is more a sign of stupid than crazy.  But O'Reilly theology ... now that's hands down bat shit crazy wackaloonery worthy of Fox.

    by larryfeltonj on Wed Dec 25, 2013 at 03:12:05 PM PST

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