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Truth died on my radio Wednesday.

I thought I had one more day, but when I turned on my radio in the kitchen on New Years Day I realized within a few seconds that truth had died on what had been my favorite station. The choking of what started out as a beacon of hope, San Francisco's Green 960, was now complete. The last gasp of factual foundation was silenced, with the duck tape of CORPservative power stretched tight over a motionless mouth.

Instead, in those first few seconds I heard Sean Hannity saying, "I think this era will be remembered for the rise of radical Islam." I'm pretty sure that this was a phrase crafted by Karl Rove, Frank Luntz, or a Koch brothers proxy. It was a statement made to stand alone without substantiation, as are most propaganda salvos. I turned my trusty unit off, knowing that my need for AM access during the cooking and snacking processes had ended. A ritual that had delivered equal parts vital information and consternation into my world had been snipped.

It was the same every morning; after I put the toast into the toaster, Green 960 would always plug me into what would be important for the day. But Romney's minions changed that last summer. Since Bain Capital owns Clear Channel, and thus 960 AM, the station lost its "green." Stephanie Miller and Thom Hartmann lost their live spots to -- gulp -- Glenn Beck and a financial show. Miller and Hartmann were pushed out to 7 p.m. and 10 p.m., instead of airing locally at 6 a.m. and 9 a.m. They changed their hopeful station tagline, too, to the drab, "Opinions, finance, advice." My guess is that Romney wanted to limit the scope of his gaffs, like his "47%" comment as November closed in.

So I entered the kitchen with iHeart radio on my iPhone, drawing from progressive stations in Denver, Asheville, N.C., and Minneapolis. My kitchen radio stayed silent thereafter in the morning. It still was the first thing I reached for when it came time for a midnight snack.

Progressive radio locally didn't start until noon with Randi Rhodes, followed by Norman Goldman who consistently won his time slot against conservatives on other channels. But that didn't matter. He's been banished, along with all progressive voices on 960 AM which now calls itself The Patriot. Randi has been saved the axe and moved to 910 AM, KNEW's other frequency, and still will be live for the second and third hours. Her syndication is through Premier Networks, the same folks that distribute Rush Limbaugh. LA is losing their national progressive talkers too, to join Portland, Ore. and Seattle as liberal areas who have lost their sole progressive talk stations to a third sports talk station in an over-saturated market or a non-English station.

They say it's just a business decision. That talk radio as a whole is suffering, and these were the lowest-hanging fruit. But that's hogwash. These stations will suffer financially for abandoning the left. But that's OK with Clear Channel. They may already be $300 million in the red, but keeping a GOP majority in the House is more important. So truth must not flow. Too much hypocrisy and corporate favoritism within the GOP power brokers that can't become common knowledge. Too much liberal infrastructure to allow unity on a broad range of issues. Keep them focusing on their own little slices of the progressive pie; don't let them focus on Keystone Pipeline, racism, and the Trans-Pacific Partnership on consecutive breaths.

KNEW 960 shifted into propaganda mode weeks ago. After news of their format change was out there, they ran spots to say that Randi was "moving up to the big leagues" to 910 AM or "being promoted." Belittling the left is crucial in maintaining the level of arrogance, division, piety, and patriotism required for effective lemming guidance.

But I think the cat is already out of the bag. We are approaching a tipping point when actual conservatives will finally realize just how the "liberal media" has been parroting the precise talking points to use their patriotism and religious fervor against them. They will realize that the super-rich have made them strident serfs, tending to the financial bounty of the 1% by backing the CORPservative Republicans who are out for CEOs not Average Joes. While corporations and billionaires shield America from tens of billions in tax revenue, the induced austerity on average folk leeches from their paltry abundance. Some conservatives will understand, in time, that they have been played like the sucker who buys a baggie of baking soda from a back-alley coke dealer. To this point, even when they snort the stuff their minds tell them they're high because of the bullhorn of substantiating rhetoric in their faces. Meanwhile the body knows the kick is absent.

And that's the disconnect that is about to dawn on well-meaning conservatives. And Clear Channel has to slow down the inevitable as long as possible. The dots are getting so close together that the Republican rank and file soon won't be able to avoid connecting them. Global climate change? Record cold, heat, drought, and tornadoes. Job creators? Nothing that's made their lives better; stagnant wages, jobs sent overseas, and Main Street drying up. Obamacare? No exclusion for pre-existing conditions. No lifetime cap on what insurance will pay for your care. And for many, big savings.

Right-wing radio spreads Swiss cheese Christianity with gaping holes where compassion should be. Live and let live can't be allowed the same weight as punishing promiscuity. Helping the poor must give way to the Calvinistic modality where the rich got that way because of being closer to God.

And the villains the GOP mouthpieces point to, the "Democrat Party," have the gaul to talk about helping people. But sooner or later, conservatives will realize that the poor can't eat bootstraps. Consumer protection is not a bad thing. Women have a right to choose, even if the results are gut-wrenchingly sad. And trickle-down is really a power vac held by billionaires.

These awakenings are happening. Clear Channel knows the fuse is lit. By limiting the flow of truth, they just make it a little longer. If they're lucky, it will still be sparkling next November.

But truth is winning. And that's bad for some Democrats, too, because the corporate alliances of the DLC members, the Democratic Leadership Council, will be brought to light as well. And if truth happens fast enough, progressives will take their places in the primaries.

The fissure between tea party and mainstream Republicans means that truth is gaining momentum. The wacko right may win in the primaries, but many will be cannon fodder in November. The GOP lost big time on the government shutdown and debt ceiling debacle. If they are to cave to the Ted Cruz's of the world and use the debt ceiling as the gun to America's financial head, it can't be with us all watching. Or listening.

So as of Jan. 1, tens of millions of liberals lost their direct pipeline to info over the airwaves. Ironically, iHeart Radio is owned by Clear Channel, and that's what I'll use to vault over their informational barricades.

And every time I turn on that kitchen radio and find it on FM instead of AM, it will strengthen my resolve to spread truth any way I can.

Originally posted to ProgToddNorCal on Fri Jan 03, 2014 at 09:15 PM PST.

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  •  Not really accurate (6+ / 0-)

    to say truth died. After all, even lefty radio isn't immune from being wrong.

    But it's very accurate to say that lies, fraud and swindling found a new lease on life in America's most liberal radio market.

    "Much of movement conservatism is a con and the base is the marks." -- Chris Hayes

    by raptavio on Fri Jan 03, 2014 at 09:25:55 PM PST

  •  radio (14+ / 0-)

    Glad you have an iPhone. Streaming and podcasts are the way to go now.

    •  And if you don't? nt (2+ / 0-)
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      "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."........ "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." (yeah, same guy.)

      by sidnora on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 05:05:11 AM PST

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      •  radio (6+ / 0-)

        Streaming live on computer. If the station has a Web site, most shows will stream, but you have to catch it at the time it's live. Same as the radio though.

        iPods, anything you can download a podcast to. Doesn't have to be an iPhone.

        •  That assumes (3+ / 0-)
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          I spend my days in front of a computer, which I mostly don't - I work a blue-collar job. I do have an iPad, which is pretty big and clunky to use in place of a portable radio, and I don't think I'll be walking around town listening on it.

          "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."........ "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." (yeah, same guy.)

          by sidnora on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 06:47:36 AM PST

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          •  I didn't assume (4+ / 0-)
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            anything. You asked a question, and I tried to help. What did you do when it was on radio? Stay by a radio in the home or on the job? Have a portable to walk around with?

            iPod shuffles are $49 at Apple. Maybe cheaper at stores like BestBuy, or maybe used on Craig's list or elsewhere. Maybe your iPad was a gift. If not, you might be able to afford a new iPod.

            There are options out there, but yes, not for everyone. Maybe you will just not hear progressive talk.

            •  I have (0+ / 0-)

              what is now called a Sony Walkman. It's not what you think if you're thinking 30 years ago, but rather a small wearable radio that has no speakers, only a headphone jack. I'm going to look at mp3 players.

              "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."........ "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." (yeah, same guy.)

              by sidnora on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 03:17:19 PM PST

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              •  The sony walkman is a mp3 player now, I got (1+ / 0-)
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                a 16GB one for about $60 so I could use my Music Unlimited subscription without draining my S3's battery.  Sadly many podcasts are exclusive to iTunes which means you can't use them on a regular mp3 player unless you use ugly hacks like feedflipper.

                You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

                by Throw The Bums Out on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 04:15:21 PM PST

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          •  more (4+ / 0-)
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            Sawgrass727 mentions below he/she has a $20 mp3 player.
            Maybe there are options out there at Target, Kmart, Amazon, etc.

          •  I think that it's fair to say (4+ / 0-)
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            that we are in a transition period from traditional terrestrial radio to digital and wireless formats.

            As such, the prices for smart phone technology will start to fall.  Walmart was already offering the latest iPhone 5c for $50 during the holiday period.

            Thus habits and listening patterns have and will continue to change.

      •  And podcasts on your computer or MP3 player (4+ / 0-)
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        I rarely listen to live radio  and listen to podcasts or my own music selection instead.  e.g., Here's the podcast page for Randi Rhodes. The files can be played online or downloaded.   And I see there's a live stream connection on the page.  I currently have about 8 hours of downloaded podcast interviews to listen to.  

        When away from the computer, I play the podcasts on an inexpensive but excellent $20 MP3 player.  For listening in the kitchen, I use a set of $15 AC-powered speakers.  Some car radios have an input jack so you can play the MP3 player headphone output through the car speakers.  My ancient van only has a cassette player but there's an adapter that allows the same connection.  Can't do any connection in our CD-player car so earbuds are needed. Technically not legal to wear while driving in our state but I can hear ambient sounds just fine.  

        •  Randi (3+ / 0-)
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          For most of the podcasts, including Randi's, you have to be a paying member. That's the only bummer for me. I subscribe to Sam Seder's show, but that is all.

          My car has the input jack for my iPod, very cool.

          I didn't know there were $20 mp3 players. That opens it up to most people. Thanks.

        •  Ok, then what do you use for podcasts on iTunes (0+ / 0-)

          then?  Do you just listen to them on your computer only or do you rely on ugly hacks like feedflipper (which is often in a cat and mouse game where Apple breaks it and then they have to reverse engineer the changes to make it work) to make them work?

          You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

          by Throw The Bums Out on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 04:17:01 PM PST

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      •  You could try hooking up your computer (0+ / 0-)

        To one of those inexpensive speaker set ups and listen to podcasts.

        Or whatever you are using now to write this diary.

        Women create the entire labor force.
        Sympathy is the strongest instinct in human nature. - Charles Darwin

        by splashy on Sun Jan 05, 2014 at 07:59:08 AM PST

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    •  AAAARRRGGGGHHHH. (10+ / 0-)

      it's about sitting in traffic.
      it's about sitting in traffic and listening to the radio.
      it's about living in the western US where the driving distance are long and everyone uses a radio.
      it's about the red red valleys having something else to listen to on long drives.
      it's about choice.
      i'ts about caring for those few liberals out there and building on that, one by one.
      it's about the fairness doctrine.
      it's about money and one voice.
      it's about truth on the airwaves.
      it's about the FCC.
      it's about the Koch's slowly owning NPR, so that there's no voice of reason, anymore, anywhere.

      we have to continue to fight this AM radio scandal, and this newspaper/TV/radio/cable ownership deal.
      we can't give up and say, "well, you can listen to a podcast."

      we can't.
      i just...

      I am tired of laughing at the irony of their stupidity.

      by stagemom on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 08:39:46 AM PST

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    •  Exactly. And, instead of bemoaning (0+ / 0-)

      the demise of Librul Talk Radio why not build your own?
      That's what we've done.  Need help?  Just ask for myself or Justice Putnam.
      Justice lives right there in "the Bay area."
      Netroots Radio is "open source" radio in the biz of helping others get up and running from sea to shining sea.  As OLinda pointed out the trend is away from "terrestrial" radio and on to Streaming radio on places like  Get on the radio!

    •  won't fix the problem before the planet burns (0+ / 0-)

      until we've got free high speed in every car all over those big states with 2 senators and no free alternatives for politics while driving or working, alternative radio is mostly only supplemental to what has to be done soon- like before this next election to make sure we get the house back and keep the senate-- it is NOT a in direct competition with the loudest and most effective propaganda tool the country has ever had and it probably won't disrupt the huge messaging advantage they enjoy with their low tech AM radio monopoly any time soon.

      This is a list of 76 universities for Rush Limbaugh that endorse global warming denial, racism, sexism, and GOP lies by broadcasting sports on over 170 Limbaugh radio stations.

      by certainot on Sun Jan 05, 2014 at 07:53:42 AM PST

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  •  Actually, in portland, our morning lefty (11+ / 0-)

    carl in the morning, is now online and on itunes. Thom Hartmann is on our community station, KBOO.

    "Money is better than poverty, if only for financial reasons." - Woody Allen

    by blueoregon on Fri Jan 03, 2014 at 10:22:16 PM PST

  •  glad you noted this (17+ / 0-)

    I like(d) (have to get accustomed to past tense) to listen to Norman Goldman in 3-6pm slot when I was on business and stuck in bay area traffic.  I've been a subscriber to subsidize his show and pod casts.

    Thom Hartmann is a national treasure. If you need to explain to anyone why the US is doomed say the following: - Limbaugh and Hannity are on 600 stations and Hartmann can't get on the air.

    My work requires focus on writing and reading such that I can't listen to talk, although music is OK.

    I was even finding Dave Ramsey's financial advice show less annoying even though he couches his basically sound avoidance of consumer debt with shilling for his personal revenue streams.
    As to the business model of ClearChannel 960 I can't quite fathom their new lineup. Someone or group must be paying them millions to lose money. No rational business person would do what they do.

  •  I know how you feel. (27+ / 0-)

    My radio is in the kitchen too and I will have to reach for my phone to listen to Thom or Randi. This also means I and you will be paying for data to listen instead of free radio.

    This cuts out all the people that cannot afford a smartphone and data charges, so they have cut out the free radio during an election year which is their plan of course.

    The only foes that threaten America are the enemies at home, and those are ignorance, superstition, and incompetence. - Elbert Hubbard -9.62/-8.15

    by GustavMahler on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 12:32:20 AM PST

  •  Same thing here Todd (11+ / 0-)

    Bay Area radio used to be so great with Ray Taliaferro doing the early mornings on KGO, and then listening to Thom and Randi on 960 during the day.  Since I was a kid I have enjoyed AM radio in the Bay Area-- listening to Dr. Donald D Rose on KFRC every morning to start my day as a typical 1970's prepubescent.  I even had an electroncs kit where I put together a basic AM radio and listened to it on really cheap headphones.
     I don't even listen to Bay Area radio anymore.  Clear Channel morons think that their generic approach will work in all markets.  As the right wing sinks in popularity, so will AM radio.   After Clear Channel goes under, AM radio will, hopefully, become localized and vital again.

    •  I used to listen to KGO 800 miles up the coast (0+ / 0-)

      as a child in the '60's. The only rock station went off the air at dusk, and so I would pick up the "skip" from CA.

      Talk about low tech: I had this crystal radio in the shape of a rocket ship, you pulled the nosecone up or down to tune it. It used a single ear plug...that way I could listen without my parents hearing.

  •  24/5/365 Progressive Radio IS available-FREE! (9+ / 0-)

    Nurse Kelley says my writing is brilliant and my soul is shiny - who am I to argue?
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    by Bud Fields on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 12:52:34 AM PST

  •  Check out Netroots Radio... (18+ / 0-)

    ... it's not like turning on the radio in the kitchen, but almost.

    We carry Kagro in the Morning, The Amato & Armando Show, Hartmann, Nicole Sandler, Shannyn Moore, Carl Wolfson, Mike Malloy, the Virtual Speaking shows, FlashPoints with Dennis Bernstein, BradCast with Brad Friedman, Democracy Now and a lot more.

    We have our own live shows as well, The After Show with Wink & yours truly, for instance, broadcasts live Mondays, Wednesday - Friday at 9am pacific.

    I post a diary here each morning with the Netroots Radio player and other items of interest, but you can always find us and the station schedule at Netroots Radio.

    Listen to The After Show & The Justice Department on Netroots Radio. Join us on The Porch Tue & Fri at Black Kos, all are welcome!

    by justiceputnam on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 12:57:22 AM PST

  •  Only a matter of time (5+ / 0-)
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    Before CC has to auction their bandwidth leases and transmission equipment in bankruptcy court.

    But even so, broadcast commercial radio is dying (even the music menus are prepackaged corporate think tank focus group approved ad gorged hypno pop garbage) - we should be looking to more valuable uses for the bandwidth.

    “Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.” ... Voltaire

    by RUNDOWN on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 12:58:22 AM PST

  •  Same disappointment (11+ / 0-)

    With KLSD in San Diego in 2008, and now KTLK. Funny how they always do this in big election years...?

    TIP: I found a website/app called TuneIn Radio, and they have an AWESOME station called "Progressive Voices". Steph in the morning, Bill Press, Ed Schultz, Thom Hartman, and even old favorite Mike Malloy. All live, no podcasts.

    I'm over Clear Channel so I was planning to kill iHeart Radio, but it turns out that Randi has her own channel on iHeart that runs her show live too. So I kept iHeart to listen to her.

    So screw broadcast radio. By the time the old redneck racist idiots figure out what wifi is and how it works with the intertubez and such, we will have completely dominated new media. Hell, we already do.


    "Mediocrity cannot know excellence." -- Sherlock Holmes

    by La Gitane on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 02:06:05 AM PST

    •  i dearly miss KTLK (2+ / 0-)
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      used to listen to it almost all day, via I Heart Radio, since I live in Boston.

      I took KTLK off my favorites list and was planning to switch to Tune In completely until I saw your message about Randi still being available live on I Heart.  I will check that out--I thought that was a pay service.

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      by TrueBlueMajority on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 06:45:25 AM PST

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  •  Collateral damage from the Limbaugh boycott (7+ / 0-)

    One of the sides effects of the Limbaugh boycott you never read about in the diaries here is the huge impact it's having on progressives radio hosts.

    When an advertiser acquiesces and agrees to pull their spots from Limbaugh's show, it's gleefully reported here as a major success. What isn't reported is that what really happens is that the advertisers are, in almost all cases, asking that their ads not be run on any political or issue driven shows. They want to avoid controversy altogether, and don't want to offend their conservatives any more than they do liberal listeners. So every time you read about an advertiser leaving Limbaugh, remember that that's also ad support that probably isn't going to be airing on a progressive show anymore either.

    The result, as Thom Hartman, Miller and other liberal radio voices have noted, is that this boycott has been much more devastating to progressive voices than it has to Limbaugh. Why? Because Limbaugh, with his huge ratings, ability to sell new ad space to replace lost advertisers, and unique way his program program is licensed to stations, is much more equipped to fight the boycott than smaller, progressive voices have been.

    Dammit Jim, I'm a lawyer, not a grammarian. So sue me.

    by Pi Li on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 02:56:43 AM PST

    •  You are correct, but not about this... (2+ / 0-)
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      Rush 'ratings' are mainly a result of him being carried on 5 zillion stations and CC is carrying him on 5 zillion stations because that is they only way they have a chance of breaking even for giving him and that Glenn Beck idiot $100 million in contracts....

      •  I'm not sure I completely agree (0+ / 0-)

        Yes, he's on a lot of stations, but those stations have individual ratings books.  People either listen or they don't, no matter how many stations he's on. No one listens to Limbaugh just because he's on a million other stations; they listen because they want to hear him.

        That's like saying just because a movie is released in 3,500 theatres it will be a smash.  People still have to go...and in Limbaugh's case, they have to listen for him to get the ratings he does.  And a lot of them do (though clearly not anywhere near his peak).

        You're correct that Clear Channel wants him on the air to recoup their investment, and from what I've read part of the recent station realignment for his show involves moving him to CC stations. But again, people still have to listen, and he far and away continues to be the dominant voice in the talk radio market.

        Dammit Jim, I'm a lawyer, not a grammarian. So sue me.

        by Pi Li on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 09:31:02 AM PST

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    •  it's not market driven (0+ / 0-)

      that's largely due to the left ignoring RW radio and non-listeners believing the lie that all talk radio is the same.

      the boycott is absolutely necessary - it is the ONLY organized opposition, though very limited, taking on the most important tool the right has.

      liberal radio is a completely different animal than the propaganda operation that is the RW radio monopoly. in blue parts of the country why wouldn't progressives and their businesses support liberal talk radio?  they do where there are distinct progressive stations with local focus- maybe not so well where they are token symbols of 'free speech' for RW monopoly owners disinterested in selling advertising to progressive businesses (the growth of which would be the end result of any real progress in this country).

      if the left realizes how many times they've gotten their asses kicked by the right because they have that huge radio messaging advantage and does something about it, advertisers will realize there's a distinction.

      This is a list of 76 universities for Rush Limbaugh that endorse global warming denial, racism, sexism, and GOP lies by broadcasting sports on over 170 Limbaugh radio stations.

      by certainot on Sun Jan 05, 2014 at 08:14:43 AM PST

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  •  They are all the same (5+ / 0-)

    haranguing and yelling at me. Before I learned to recognize them it would often take a few moments to tell  which side of things a screamer was on. They both go on and on and on about Obama.

    I listen to music or the soft right wing of NPR, or with luck the BBC.

    The only enjoyment, and it's a mean one,  is when the Republicans take a huge beating, at the polls, or on the courts, and then I like to listen to Rush just to hear him cry. When Rush hurts he genuinely hurts, the anguish a lullaby to my soul.

    If I'm around and driving at 10 AM I'll listen to both stations because, Ed Shultz and Rush Limbaugh both come on for their original 10 minutes that they've been thinking about all night. Rush is usually better, more angry, but sometimes Big Ed touches me in my blue collar place. I can't stand either for more than about 5 minutes, Rush maybe less.

    Seriously though, tune that stuff out, it's entertainment but in general a downer. They make their living off anger, it matters not what their politics are.

    The reason talk radio doesn't take off on the left is because we are smarter than that.

    “Conservation… is a positive exercise of skill and insight, not merely a negative exercise of abstinence and caution…” Aldo Leopold

    by ban nock on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 03:12:20 AM PST

  •  I keep WCPT streaming all the time during the day; (4+ / 0-)

    they've been my lifeline to progressive radio for quite a while, and one of the few options in the entire state of Ohio (I think there's one progger left—in Cleveland—but that's it).

    Thanks again, Clinton :(

    I usually stream it via TuneIn Radio and through the TuneIn Android app.

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    by here4tehbeer on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 03:28:52 AM PST

  •  I feel your pain (5+ / 0-)

    We lost our progressive AM station here in Detroit one year ago on New Years Day.
    No advance warning or anything, just static.
    I can still listen to podcasts on my own time but not at work anymore.  I drive a utility truck and used to listen to progressive talk all day.
    Now I have to settle for bland, safe NPR.

    I can see Canada from my house. No, really, I can.

    by DuzT on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 04:37:23 AM PST

    •  And anyone who suggests (11+ / 0-)

      that NPR is an adequate substitute isn't paying attention. And I say that as someone who does listen to a fair amount of it. It is not the same thing. Not only bland and safe, but more and more "fair and balanced".

      "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."........ "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." (yeah, same guy.)

      by sidnora on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 05:12:21 AM PST

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      •  NPR, a plutocrat's idea of what we should hear (5+ / 0-)
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        I don't think DuzT was describing NPR as an adequate progressive substitute - or progressive at all.  I know I listen to it when driving, not because it is good or even adequate, but  because the alternatives are so much worse.  It took a while for our plutocratic overlords to bring that network to heel.  That project is now pretty complete.

        •  Oh dear, it wasn't meant as (4+ / 0-)
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          a criticism of DuzT's comment at all! I had it in mind because I was reading some of the comments on the station's FB page, and people were suggesting that.

          It's not quite completely corporatized here. We have a couple of local shows on our NPR station here that are often worth listening to. Our other real alternative is our local Pacifica station, WBAI. But neither of those are commercial. It would appear that commercial progressive radio is dead.

          "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."........ "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." (yeah, same guy.)

          by sidnora on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 06:05:25 AM PST

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  •  What's a "local station"? (2+ / 0-)
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    Wait, I take that back, I found some here, we have 3 around here on a good day...

    I know how the government can make money!  Let's lease the state parks and government land to the highest bidder to maintain and provide service to the public for their own land! Don't laugh, it works out great  for the radio, television, and cellphone spectrums, doesn't it?

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    by geekydee on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 06:15:42 AM PST

  •  My question: Did you support the radio station? (0+ / 0-)

    Commercial radio—progressive, liberal, or otherwise—requires advertisers, and advertisers are only going to pay for ads if they think the benefit in increased business justifies the cost of advertising. Therefore, supporting progressive commercial radio doesn't mean listening to the shows or even calling in sometimes.

    In order to support progressive commercial radio, you need to listen to the commercials (instead of switching over to NPR or the classic-rock station when they come on), buy the products they're selling, and then specifically tell the companies that you're buying them because they advertised on progressive radio.

    Absent that, it's tough to justify the cost of buying an ad spot on progressive commercial radio to an advertiser—and without ads, commercial radio just isn't a viable business model.

    The right-wing gets around that by pumping millions of dollars into losing ventures; unless we've got a foundation or ten that's willing to do the same, the only way progressive radio will work is either over the satellites/internet (much lower transmission costs), going to a listener-supported format like NPR with the attendant pledge drives, or explicitly supporting the companies that advertise on progressive commercial radio.

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    by JamesGG on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 07:08:21 AM PST

    •  Actually it's more simple than that. (0+ / 0-)

      Advertisers bundle their wares and sells them to network conglomerates at a discounted rate.  That's why independent, non network stations go out of business because they can't compete with the network.

      Advertisers offer a discount because they figure that they can be heard by larger audiences -- it doesn't matter if they are 'listening' to the commercials or not -- offering a discounted rate to reach tens of millions of listeners is a better business decision for them than having to negotiate with thousands of independent stations in varying markets reaching smaller numbers of people...

  •  This is a good place (4+ / 0-)

    for the Parable of the Siberian Husky Mix in the Full Sun on a Summer Day.

    We had such a dog. She used to take naps outside. Sometimes, she would wake up in the full sun, far hotter than she liked. She would pant. She would shift herself this way and that. But she couldn't see how to end her misery, and she wouldn't move to the shade.

    "It takes her a while to figure out what hurts," my father commented.

    Many political conservatives directly hurt by food-stamp cuts and penurious social-security checks are exactly the same way. They know they're miserable. They just can't fathom what is actually causing their pain.

    The pinched, hard-up-against-it every-day person, though, is an easy mark for RW propaganda. The greediest and most destructive among us, know it.

    I'd like to share the optimism of this diarist, that the RW has painted itself into a corner, that the scales will fall from the eyes of its acolytes when they register one indignity too many. But I guess I'm just not that optimistic about human nature.

    It's here they got the range/ and the machinery for change/ and it's here they got the spiritual thirst. --Leonard Cohen

    by karmsy on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 07:20:56 AM PST

  •  KB 1520 in Buffalo went Sports as well (0+ / 0-)

    I knew something was up when the 'right wing station guys' (WBEN) were doing commercials on 1520 for various products.

    They are both owned by  Entercom Communications

  •  i wonder if (4+ / 0-)
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    the greater familiarity with technology on the left is accelerating this.

    it makes no sense, for example, that the Boston-Cambridge area cannot support a progressive radio station.  for a while we had Revolution Radio 1510 AM, a weak AM station on the far right of the dial, but that station changed to sports radio some time back, and Revolution Radio survives as an internet only stream for a few hours a day.

    Could part of the reason be that liberals don't listen to "the radio"?  We are streaming on line, listening to our phones, buying satellite radio, downloading podcasts, getting Free Speech TV on Roku, etc., and cannot drive ratings over broadcast radio in the same way?

    Stephanie Miller lost her flagship station when KTLK switched over.  She had to build a studio in her own home so she could still send a show to her affiliates.  Fans sent in money so she could be on Free Speech TV.

    Corporate radio knows we are out here, but they are choosing to ignore us.  They would rather lose money than help our message get out, so for now we have to pay for access to our voices, like a self-funded Radio Free America.

    I know there is a political reason for all these station switch overs by Clear Channel.  2014 is a pivotal election for us--if we take back the house and hold the Senate their fear of a Black President will increase exponentially.  There won't be any way for them to stop him from helping "those" people!

    Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D.
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    by TrueBlueMajority on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 07:42:50 AM PST

    •  No. (5+ / 0-)
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      It's because Bill Clinton's administration changed the rules of ownership under the FCC, allowing for entities to own multiple stations in the same markets.

      This then led to 'networks' buying up and monopolizing the airwaves all over.   Instead of local DJs deciding on what music to play (including playing cuts from XYZ's latest album), corporate whizkids decided on a set format of songs that happened to top the charts.  That's why you would hear the Top 10 on Billboard's charts played 100x a day.  And I would venture that is also part of the reason today's music is mostly trash.  

      Instead of local talk show talents, more and more individuals came under the net of being 'syndicated'.  Before Rush Limbaugh became the King of Rightwing mania, he was just your typical annoying talk show host who has a gift for gab, but was also an incredible product pitchmen.

      One of Rush's first major sponsors was this company selling a non-carbonated soft drink in a variety of flavors -- basically a bottled version of Kool-Aid.  Rush pushed that product so much that the company sold its product to the Coca-Cola corporation for millions of dollars.  

      That was Snapple and I remember Rush by in those days when I was a kid myself, in my truck out in the field working and having to listen to that moron because WLS out of Chicago had the strongest signal with me being some 300 miles away from it.

      No.  It's all about the Benjamins.   And now with the advent of digital and wireless technology, the investment in all of those radio stations isn't so profitable anymore.  The millennials are used to listening to Pandora on their apps, as well as other digital stations.  They listen to only what they want to listen to, whenever they want to listen to it.  They no longer have to sit thru AM XYZ and wait to hear their favorite song or call a station 5 million times a day to request it.  It's just another reason why records don't sell anymore --  kids can just listen online to what they want to hear for free.

      Cars and trucks are now being outfitted with wireless technology and now you can hear Pandora and others in your vehicles.  

      Terrestrial radio is going by the waste side, but not before the Gekko-like maneuvers of the Bain Capital Clear Channel corporation breaks it down and sells the parts for a dime on the dollar.

      I think that it's a good time for the airwaves to become public again and free for all under government regulation to re-establish open and fair competition.

      •  i remember the snapple "boycott" (3+ / 0-)
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        but here it looks like you agree with me:

        with the advent of digital and wireless technology, the investment in all of those radio stations isn't so profitable anymore.  The millennials are used to listening to Pandora on their apps, as well as other digital stations.  They listen to only what they want to listen to, whenever they want to listen to it.  They no longer have to sit thru AM XYZ and wait to hear their favorite song or call a station 5 million times a day to request it.  It's just another reason why records don't sell anymore --  kids can just listen online to what they want to hear for free.

        Cars and trucks are now being outfitted with wireless technology and now you can hear Pandora and others in your vehicles.

        Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D.
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        by TrueBlueMajority on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 08:45:52 AM PST

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    •  when i see that question i ask this one: (1+ / 0-)
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      is it really possible that 95% of the people who would listen to talk radio are ignorant fools who prefer the unfunny ignorance and lies and pro corporate propaganda and hate of limbaugh and hannity?

      no, that would be a huge insult to all americans.

      there are no free alts for politics while driving or working in most parts of the country. the loud stations are the ones with the college sports mascots on them, the place for local news weather traffic and sports - that's the model, and it would work just as well with liberal talkers telling truth and facts for liberals and all those other people who are too busy or disinterested in politics to have strong views but absorb that RW crap (especially when something important's happening) and vote against their own interests when the time comes.

      it's a well protected monopoly that's been very effective selling war, deregulation, tax breaks, and global warming denial worth trillions.

      This is a list of 76 universities for Rush Limbaugh that endorse global warming denial, racism, sexism, and GOP lies by broadcasting sports on over 170 Limbaugh radio stations.

      by certainot on Sun Jan 05, 2014 at 08:41:33 AM PST

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  •  The disconnect between corporate 'reality' and (0+ / 0-)

    what's going down on the ground is huge, IMO.

    I like your idea of the dots being so close together that they cannot be ignored - so true - but there are some really interesting psychological phenomenon that are going to play out in large portions of our populace, and I'm not sure that all will see the appropriate picture - they won't believe their lyin' eyes...

    I could see some crazy stuff going down as the picture starts to come into focus piece by piece. I think it already is...

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    by k9disc on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 08:06:08 AM PST

  •  Learn spanish & discover a political world on AM. (4+ / 0-)
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    I'll never forget that moment: heading down the I-5 at velocities best unmentioned, somewhere between Los Banos and Bakersfield, under after-hours stars... this is the radio desert, where Billboard Charts are precious. I finally settled on the Spanish AM station because, well, that's what an Anglo does I suppose, when all other options are exhausted.

    And for the next three hours I listened to one of the most intelligent, passionate, critical dissertation on the political economy of globalization I have ever encountered.

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    by opendna on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 08:35:10 AM PST

  •  You realize, of course... (0+ / 0-)

    ...that iHeartradio is owned by the same company -- Clear Channel -- that owns Premiere Radio Networks, 910 AM, and 960 AM.

  • and Progressive Voices (1+ / 0-)
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    You can find all the pro chatters on Progressive Voices at, as well as our home team, Netroots Radio. also has streaming through Stitcher and TuneIn as well as iTunes Internet Talk radio.

    Better get back to the web. The internet isn't going to surf itself.

    by RodSerling on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 09:18:04 AM PST

  •  Louie Gohmert was subbing for Sean Hannity when (0+ / 0-)

    I turned on my car radio to listen to Randi Rhodes. Despite knowing that it was going to happen I felt a surge of helpless rage when I heard Louie Gohmert introduce himself and announce that he was subbing for Sean Hannity. It didn't stop me from feeling a bit of admiration for Hannity for finding someone even stupider than himself to introduce the Hannity show to the Sf/Bay area audience. After Gohmert, Hannity will look like a rocket scientist.
     I'm really upset about Norman Goldman's removal from the KNEW airwaves. He got consistently great reviews. But I realize it's not about that. It's about the upcoming elections and blanket 24/7 right wing hate propaganda. Thank the Goddess the Bay area has a really great public radio station, KPFA, and a corporate right one, KQED. Some parts of the country have neither.

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    by slouching on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 10:56:54 AM PST

  •  Randi Rhodes Moving to 910 (0+ / 0-)

    I don't know about the rest, however.  :(

  •  NYC no longer has Ed Schulz, Hartmann, or Rhodes (1+ / 0-)
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    WWRL went Spanish last week. Mark Riley gone. That's it for AM Progressive talk in the Big Apple and by extension most of NJ. FM has WBAI. And there are no plans for any other station to pick the aforementioned up. instead we have WWOR and WABC competing to see who can have the most wingnuts. The only conservative that is sometimes tolerable is John Bachelor, mainly when he has an author on who might be a real academic and bachelor manages to shut the fuck up. Even Coast to Coast has gone conservative, though Jerome Corsi should take note that he is often a guest on a show that talks mainly about UFO's ghosts and bigfoot.

    •  OWS protests should have included ABC (union stati (1+ / 0-)
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      station), one of the initial limbaugh stations.

       WABC was/is working for wall st, airing constant attacks on them, egging on the cops and pushing city govt to evict the flee bitten scum.

      many protestors walked right by the station/building, a small part of the monolithic propaganda megaphone making OWS necessary in the first place and making it go away afterwards.

      This is a list of 76 universities for Rush Limbaugh that endorse global warming denial, racism, sexism, and GOP lies by broadcasting sports on over 170 Limbaugh radio stations.

      by certainot on Sun Jan 05, 2014 at 08:49:20 AM PST

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  •  There's all kinds of radio I used to listen to (1+ / 0-)
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    here in the Bay Area before the neocon corporate thought police took over the air. Now, KGO is a pathetic shell of its former self (Dunbar and Wygant must get ill every time they listen to their old station); 960 is rendered into a useless drone of dittohead squealing and grunting, and 710 is litterally ALL news All the time - whether it's news worth mentioning or not.

    And yes, I DID support them through participation in talk shows, donations and patronizing sponsors before they went dark.

    Allowing the corporatization of every damned thing that a human being is capable of producing continues to be shown to be poisonous to the dissemination of facts and the minds that need them.

    And as a matter of taking in The Big Picture, here's something to chew on: if progressive media has no local outlet in which to flourish here in the San Francisco Bay Area because of the neocon's shotgun corporatization of broadcast markets, what in hell makes anyone think they can make it work anywhere else? They have a lock on it, folks - bought with cold, hard cash while their goons running the FCC looked the other way. It's the broadcast version of what happened to the banking industry - only without the fees.

  •  This about elections AND the digital divide! (1+ / 0-)
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    Please note that ALL of the options I have found for replacing the now vanishing Progressive talk format involve 1) digital devices that cost a lot of money -- and come with monthly fees as well. and 2) they require a level of understanding about the Internet and how streaming audio works that many people simply do not have.  I know I am a geek, and I have no problem making my computer do pretty much what I want -- but that is NOT the story of most computer users.  There are many barriers to listening to any progressive talk IN REAL TIME.  Make not of that, because audience participation is important.  But how can you paprticipate when your MP3 player is playing a program that was live YESTERDAY?  So much for audioence participation -- and that is even if you do have an ISP, etc.  My MP3 player is no substitute for live radio, period.  

    Paying the likes of AT&T or Verizon for "streaming" audio ala "I Heart Radio" (A Clear Channel product that carries only Clear Channel radio station audio, by the way) is no substitute either because of the expensive "data caps" in place on most 3G and 4G telephone networks.  Again, this is clear digital discrimination, intended to deprive the average person from even hearing the likes of Thom Hartmann, Norman Goldman, or Randi Rhodes.  

    Show me how Joe Sixpack can listen to Norman in his trucki without paying a monthly fee in excess of $10 per month just to listen to "radio" that used to be totally free.  Now say it isn't so.  I dare you!  

  •  I stopped listening to green 960 a long time ago (0+ / 0-)

    When Stephanie Miller was replaced with Glenn Beck, and the progressive news commentator disappeared.

    We want you to terminate the GOP's command. With extreme prejudice. (from "Utopia Soon")

    by oddmike on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 09:39:06 PM PST

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