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The year's thread begins anew.
The first weekend of the new year. Let's get it off to a good start, shall we?
  • At Rolling Stone, Jesse Myerson has five big reforms that millennials should be fighting for right now. My favorite?
    You know what else really blows? Wall Street. The whole point of a finance sector is supposed to be collecting the surplus that the whole economy has worked to produce, and channeling that surplus wealth toward its most socially valuable uses. It is difficult to overstate how completely awful our finance sector has been at accomplishing that basic goal. Let's try to change that by allowing state governments into the banking game.
    Absolutely. There needs to be a push for state infrastructure banks whose goal is to provide capital to the public sector, rather than loot it using interest rate swaps and the like.
  • Dave Weigel's takedown of the insufferable opinions of Ruth Marcus and David Brooks on marijuana use is exquisite.
    There's already a first-order danger of wasting time or embarrassing yourself from experimenting with any drug, legal or otherwise. The prohibitionists are defending the enforcement of a second-order danger, the complete elimination of a person as a productive member of society. Marcus worries "that the number who perceive great risk from regular use has been plummeting, from 58 percent to 40 percent among 12th-graders." Why wouldn't it plummet? The greatest risk is from arrest, not from use—and anytime you use something that's supposed to ruin your life, but doesn't, won't you naturally mistrust the nannies who warned you against it?
    Bingo. Personally, I think there's much more danger from the recreational consumption of tired Beltway pundits like David Brooks.
  • So, I'm sitting here in Los Angeles enjoying 80-degree weather right now, but for many people across the country, this is really going to suck next week:
    For days, it’s appeared on computer model maps in the form of deep blue and purple shades. Now it’s about to get real and up close and personal. Some of the coldest air in years, if not decades, is poised to pour into the U.S., with mind-boggling low temperatures.
    Basically a large whirlpool in the atmosphere originating at the north pole – in geek speak known as the polar vortex – is diving into the Lower 48.
    How bad will it get? Well...for all those watching NFL playoff games tomorrow, we just  might see the coldest game ever on record. So, that bad.
  • You can't make up headlines like this. Well, I guess you can if you're Gawker:
    Sea Lion Shit is California's New Sriracha
    The point is, a bunch of rich people in the wealthy San Diego suburb of La Jolla are suing the city to take down a fence that prevents the cleanup of an accumulation of sea lion waste. Clearly, Mitt Romney's adopted home community and its fellow car elevator owners have nothing better to do with their time.
  • You can purchase and smoke pot legally in Colorado. But that doesn't mean your employer has to keep you on the job if you do:
    On New Year’s Day, Colorado became the first state in which it’s legal to recreationally smoke pot. But that doesn’t mean it’s not a fireable offense. Under U.S. law, private companies can fire employees for almost anything they do at home or at work. And while Colorado has bucked the trend by banning firings for “lawful” outside-work activities, that protection doesn’t extend to pot.

    “I’m not going to get better any time soon,” paraplegic plaintiff Brandon Coats told reporters after his 2010 firing by Dish Network was upheld in a precedent-setting Colorado Court of Appeals case last April. “I need the marijuana, and I don’t want to go the rest of my life without holding a job.” As the Denver Post reported, Coats alleged he was illegally fired by the cable company Dish Network for using medical marijuana to mitigate muscle spasms. (Coats was fired three years before Colorado voters legalized recreational marijuana use; his case rested on the state’s Medical Marijuana Amendment, which went into effect in 2009.) Dish did not respond to Salon’s Thursday morning inquiry.

    “If Mr. Coats can’t win this case, then nobody can,” Coats’ attorney Michael Evans told Salon. “He’s about as bad as you can get in terms of physical disability … He was a great employee, and they admit that he was never impaired [at work] … He was following all of the laws.”

    Along with new expansions of personal rights comes the need for new protections for employees who engage in now-legal activities.
  • Just for fun: a couple of optical illusions that prove that your brain is basically lying to you.

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  •  --And By Once Again Taking Conventional Banking (10+ / 0-)

    for profit out of the gambling investment game.

    I have to wonder if this should be done for insurance as well.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 12:03:25 PM PST

  •  Fund the Infrastructure Banks with money (7+ / 0-)

    repatriated from off-shore cash stashes. Waive income taxes on this repatriation after they've invested in the Infrastructure Banks for at least 5 years. With trillions of dollars available for repatriation, we could be swimming in infrastructure investment funds. Which we use to fund large-scale projects like roads, bridges, water treatment facilities, water/sewer projects, electric grid renovation, alternative energy programs, broadband access and the like. Great jobs programs, economic revitalization, etc.

    "radical, ideological wet dream"

    by Scottsdalian on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 12:10:42 PM PST

    •  How would this be any different than a state (0+ / 0-)

      or the Federal government taking on debt directly through bonds instead of indirectly through state or federally owned banks?

      The only difference I can see would potentially be not reporting the debt owed by the government, even though it would be a debt they owe.

      To me it just looks like an unnecessary accounting fiction.

      The most important way to protect the environment is not to have more than one child.

      by nextstep on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 12:53:09 PM PST

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      •  It's a means to repatriating foreign cash without (1+ / 0-)
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        dealing with the whole tax issue, which is a VERY sticky wicket. Trade today's tax income for tomorrow's massive infrastructure spending. The increase in economic activity will offset the lost tax income.

        And keep it out of Jaime Dimon's grubby paws. Direct funding of infrastructure improvements without the capital markets digging their greedy claws into the money first.

        Every dollar deposit goes directly into infrastructure.

        No state, federal or other bonding. The Infrastructure Bank could issue its own debt and price it based on its credit strength, and not the credit strength of the US or States. Like the Federal Home Loan Bank System, which raises funds for residential lending. FHLBs are pretty efficient and effective. (Altho the FHLBs do have indirect Federal guarantees.)

        "radical, ideological wet dream"

        by Scottsdalian on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 01:28:42 PM PST

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        •  What is the source for payment for interest and (0+ / 0-)

          principle? I would think it would be government entities, unless all they built had user fees such as tolls. Without government being on the hook for payment, how does the risk of massive cost overruns such as the Big Dig in Boston (projected to cost $2.8 billion became $14.6 billion?

          The cost of borrowing if this entity did not have its debt guaranteed by government would be much higher than treasuries.  There is no advantage there.

          The tax forgiveness you propose has a very high effective interest rate.  Taking the Federal rate of 35% forgiven after 5 years, works out to be about 10.4%/yr  after tax return, a very high interest rate.  Maybe this is more so a political payoff situation  - Democrats get the hundreds of billions in infrastructure spending they want, and Republicans get a large tax cut for repatriation of foreign earnings.

          What you propose would just mean much higher direct and indirect financing costs.  In no economic sense is this a less expensive way to finance.

          Just accept that these public works get funded with public debt.

          The most important way to protect the environment is not to have more than one child.

          by nextstep on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 03:32:12 PM PST

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          •  Unfortunately, good luck getting a huge stimulus (1+ / 0-)
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            package along with huge income tax resolutions if you want to repatriate something like $2 Trillion of off-shore cash.

            Is this putting lipstick on a pig? Perhaps, but I think it could be done politically.

            And the 5 years thing - that was just a starting number that I threw out there. Go ahead and make it 10 years if you want.

            Can phase in the annual tax savings but disallow withdrawal for 5 - 10 years. As this phase-in kicks in, private companies could pledge the net balances after the phase-in benefits accrue. This way, the private companies could still have access to these funds through additional outside borrowings. No borrowings from the Infrastructure Bank - let Jaime Dimon assess the value of these ongoing, increasing net balances.

            Don't get too bogged down in my specifics - I'm trying to propose a whole new idea, with the details to follow. But it has to work for all parties involved in order to gain political acceptance.

            Thoughts or improvements???

            "radical, ideological wet dream"

            by Scottsdalian on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 03:45:44 PM PST

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          •  Source of funding would be regular, steady, (0+ / 0-)

            ongoing government funding of these projects. Unfortunately the guv can't layout trillions of dollars for these projects, but they CAN fund ongoing improvements/upgrades on an annual budgeted basis. They would provide 5-10 year funding to the Infrastructure Bank that financed each project.

            This is a matter of FINANCING projects, not FUNDING them. They are FINANCED by repatriated funds and this financing is repaid by FUNDING provided by traditional government funding.

            "radical, ideological wet dream"

            by Scottsdalian on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 03:55:07 PM PST

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    •  Great idea! (2+ / 0-)
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      KingBolete, GleninCA

      But, besides public infrastructure projects,  I would include investing in repatriating whole industries back to the US.

      You want start-up funds to build an appliance assembly/manufacture plant somewhere in America devastated by globalization?  What better funds to use than repatriated profits?

      •  This would be equivalent. New jobs are new jobs, (0+ / 0-)

        no matter where they came from.

        But these infrastructure jobs would be much better-paying jobs than gaining the shitty/cheap labor/assembly/ factories from China.

        And we improve our national economic efficiency with these infrastructure projects.

        "radical, ideological wet dream"

        by Scottsdalian on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 03:50:46 PM PST

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        •  Uh.. no.. (0+ / 0-)

          For every manufacturing job created, multiple jobs are created in supply chains, etc.

          Further, a thriving manufacturing sector could go on for many years, if not decades.  Infrastructure jobs, while I believe necessary, are very temporary.

          No, it is vital to our economy to have a mix of both. Infrastructure spending to give a quick boost, but also industry to sustain growth.

          •  But industry WOULD benefit by their (0+ / 0-)

            repatriated funds. Right now, they have zero inducement to bring those funds home. Actually, they have greater inducement to reinvest those funds globally. So aren't we really financing global investment - as opposed to American investment - by keeping those funds offshore???

            As I proposed, they will start benefiting from these infrastructure bank deposits after the first year and can use the projected future availabilities as payments/collateral for financing - to finance their American investments. And that's how manufacturing returns to America.

            "radical, ideological wet dream"

            by Scottsdalian on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 04:42:50 PM PST

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    •  far simpler, fund the infrastructure bank (0+ / 0-)

      by borrowing from the Federal Reserve.

      Say the Bank of California, starts serving as the
      primary lending and receiving bank of the state
      of california and for the municipalities

      and the state checking accounts move there.

      the BoC then borrows from the federal reserve
      discount window at 0.25  and lends to the california
      treasury at 3.25 for munis etc...

      it can bootstrap from zero because california itself
      has good credit.

  •  9000 casualties in Iraq last year (8+ / 0-)

    and Fallujah and Ramadi are back in the hands of al-Qaeda backed militants.  After $2 trillion, some 4600 dead US troops, and who really knows HOW many dead Iraqis...what was accomplished there?  

    There was never, ever a chance of success there.  And if the Republicans regain the mark my words, we will be revisiting that fiasco with fresh American troops.

    L'enfer, c'est les autres....Jean-Paul Sartre

    by Keith930 on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 12:11:38 PM PST

  •  As state efforts march forward to legalize (7+ / 0-)

    both same sex marriage and marijuana legalization...what, if anything, is happening on the Death With Dignity, or "Right to Die" front?  I can't believe that Oregon and Washington state are the only two states in the country that have passed this legislation.

    I think New Jersey may be considering it...but really...why is this even controversial?

    L'enfer, c'est les autres....Jean-Paul Sartre

    by Keith930 on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 12:18:23 PM PST

  •  Is smoking marijuana a health risk? (1+ / 0-)
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    Somehow breathing smoke from burning leaves doesn't seem like a good idea, whether it's MJ or tobacco. At least MJ smoke doesn't contain nicotine, which is highly addictive.

    What's the evidence?

    •  Good news on that front (6+ / 0-)

      because this is true to a certain extent:

      breathing smoke from burning leaves doesn't seem like a good idea, whether it's MJ or tobacco
      But as you note, not a gazillion chemicals besides tobacco going on here. So it's nowhere near the risk that regular cigs are.

      That good news is that vaping can be done with pot now, just like it can with nicotine and e-cigs. I just wish the price would come down on the equipment. Last time I looked, it was still over 100 bucks to get yourself set up...

      This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

      by lunachickie on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 12:32:23 PM PST

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    •  Brownies work! N/t (1+ / 0-)
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      "Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everybody gets busy on the proof.” ― John Kenneth Galbraith

      by Urban Owl on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 12:49:10 PM PST

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  •  Charles M. Blow had an interesting column today (1+ / 0-)
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    Lucy Montrose

    which I used as the starting point for a post I called infidels are deserving of your enmity, not your empathy, where I have borrowed what I think are appropriate words from Blow for my title.

    The post has an interesting comment thread that is also very well worth reading.

    Thought I might call it to your attention.


    "We didn't set out to save the world; we set out to wonder how other people are doing and to reflect on how our actions affect other people's hearts." - Pema Chodron

    by teacherken on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 12:20:30 PM PST

  •  I like the term "Yuppie Prohibitionists" used by (5+ / 0-)

    Matt Tiabbi. All the rich white folks (not to mention Obama) who used to avail themselves of marijuana, then outgrew it, went on to big careers, never faced the problems that minorities faced, e.g. 5 or 6X the risk of arrest. Now you can't use it because they thought it made them stoopid or leads to moral decay (Brooks) some such lame, privileged thinking.
    He specifically mentions Joe Scarborough, Tina Brown, and "Yale blowhard-in-residence" David Brooks (what an idiot).

    Read more:

    "You can die for Freedom, you just can't exercise it"

    by shmuelman on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 12:21:56 PM PST

  •  Caught in the polar vortex (4+ / 0-)
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    viral, atana, Lucy Montrose, JeffW

    The low temp tomorrow night is projected as -19 deg where I live in W-central IA. Monday the predicted "high" will be -6 deg.

  •  La Jolla seals (4+ / 0-)

    (I'm pretty sure they're harbor seals, not sea lions.)

    It's not a crazy complaint, to be honest. It doesn't just smell; it's a reeking miasma. (And I'm not a delicate flower with smells.)

    More importantly, it's in the commercial/tourist area, not the mansion area, and since the Cove (where the seals are) is basically the tourist draw of La Jolla, it's a legit problem for the businesses near the Cove.

  •  Pot is not different than anything else (0+ / 0-)

    Come to work drunk and you can be fired.  Come to work stoned and you can be fired.

    Come to work hungover and you can be fired.  Come to work fried from smoking all night and you can be fired.

    Further if you as part of your employment agreement say you will not use drugs its fair to fire you if you do.  If you want to smoke pot then dont take a job that doesnt all it.  There are LOTS of jobs that could care less if you smoke pot.  

    It is well that war is so terrible -- lest we should grow too fond of it. Robert E. Lee

    by ksuwildkat on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 12:32:35 PM PST

  •  Oh, great (6+ / 0-)

    so the war on pot smokers who just want a goddamn job will continue. Weed is legal in certain places, just like alcohol is. Drinking on the job can get you fired. Smoking pot off the job can get you fired for a month after you smoked.

    What a boatload of bullshit. Though that Salon article link in this diary on Brandon Coats' case gives me a little hope, anyway...

    If the court doesn’t recognize that “you can’t give a constitutional right and then have it taken away by employers,” Evans argued, the state Legislature would have to step in to address what he called “a Catch-22 and a double standard.”

    This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

    by lunachickie on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 12:38:58 PM PST

    •  A month? (1+ / 0-)
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      Lucy Montrose

      Yeah no.  Frequent users (like daily) tend to build up THC in their systems so it takes longer to flush out.  The Army screens at 50 NG/ML (Nanograms per milliliter) and charges people at 15 NG/ML.  I know occasional users (like once eery few months) who have passed less than a week after smoking a shared joint (i.e. 3 people and a single joint).  

      I would guess that employers will eventually have to come up with some standard other than zero to determine what is fireable.  

      Im not sure I want airline pilots being allowed to smoke pot.  I know I dont want my fellow soldiers to be allowed.

      It is well that war is so terrible -- lest we should grow too fond of it. Robert E. Lee

      by ksuwildkat on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 12:56:16 PM PST

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      •  Oh yeah--30 days is an average (2+ / 0-)
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        Inland Jim, Lucy Montrose

        some take less, some more. Employers better come up with something better, though, because it's a bullshit double standard in the meantime.

        Beyond that, I see no point in debating about "who should be allowed to smoke and who should not". It's been done to death.

        This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

        by lunachickie on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 01:05:23 PM PST

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      •  Colorado's first pot customer was a vet (0+ / 0-)

        I remember a scene from the film "Hearts and Minds", I believe, that showed soldiers using  the barrel of a dismantled mortar cannon as a bong in Vietnam.  

        I believe the Veterans Admin is the worlds leading provider of substance abuse services, for what it's worth.

        L'enfer, c'est les autres....Jean-Paul Sartre

        by Keith930 on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 01:07:45 PM PST

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      •  Not until the Federal Law is changed. (1+ / 0-)
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        It is STILL illegal to smoke pot in the United States. Just because the Feds aren't pushing it does not exempt your employer from enforcing it. Federal Law takes precedent over State law. I work for a Pham. Manufacturing Company and I can't fail a piss test and say 'Hey, I just got back from Colorado and it's legal there.' Another example would be: The FBI expects you have done something wrong. They stop you and find a half ounce of pot. See how well 'But this is Colorado?' works for you.

        "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience." Mark Twain

        by Urbee on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 04:47:13 PM PST

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      •  The question employers may be asking... (1+ / 0-)
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        is: Which job candidate or employee, other things being equal, will be more productive: The one who does use marijuana or the the one who does not? In a former life, my business involved producing print material: Ads, direct mail, etc. It involves lots of detail, proofreading, graphic design.  It was learned, the hard way, that the pot smokers in the field had to be supervised more..details slipped away from them,  followup did as well...but they weren't that upset about it. Were the same faults observed in those who recreated with alcohol instead? Sure. But my point is, you likely wouldn't knowingly hire a boozer over a sober person, all things considered. Likewise a pot smoker.
        Just my personal experience as an employer.

  •  one of the best part of Az's med MJ law is full (4+ / 0-)

    protection for workers with a legal card.  They can not fire you for metabolites, they can still fire you for being intoxicated on the job but other than that,  a med mj patient has job protection.

    Vaya con Dios Don Alejo
    I want to die a slave to principles. Not to men.
    Emiliano Zapata

    by buddabelly on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 12:51:21 PM PST

  •  would you like some anchovies with that (1+ / 0-)
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    sea lion poop?

    Some stories require a visual...

    L'enfer, c'est les autres....Jean-Paul Sartre

    by Keith930 on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 12:55:18 PM PST

  •  That optical illusion was AMAZING!!! (2+ / 0-)
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    Mr Robert, cocinero

    Last item on Midday open thread is really worth a look see.

  •  I wish we could have some of that Polar Vortex (0+ / 0-)

    here in So Cal; I'm sick of running the air conditioner in the middle of winter.

    Subzero temperatures were common at this time of year when I was growing up in the midwest. But the temps they they are predicting for this polar vortex -- -15F to -30F -- would have been unusually cold even back then.

    You can bet that people will cite this as proof that global warming is a hoax.

  •  On the cold front... (3+ / 0-)
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    PSzymeczek, wintergreen8694, JeffW

    Be careful where it's REALLY cold.

    For those folks who live somewhere where it doesn't get cold often, please keep in mind that 20 degrees can be dangerous.  It's warm enough that folks don't worry much, but cold enough that if you don't have enough layers, or if you get too far from shelter it can be deadly.

    I live in Alaska and ~20 degrees seems to be the most common temp for hypothermia.  

    Democracy, if done properly, is rude, messy, and loud

    by allensl on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 01:00:17 PM PST

  •  Fired for pot (0+ / 0-)

    I'm having trouble thinking of a reason why "pot-smokers" should be a protected class.

    •  Because no one should be fired... (1+ / 0-)
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      ... for their off-work conduct. That also goes for firing someone for their off-work Facebook postings, political activity, etc.

      One reason people may actually be going crazier, carrying more guns, etc. is because the consequences for small infractions have gotten more severe. Firing for Facebook postings, calling the cops on kids who write on desks, etc. I'd like to see someone do a study on that-- whether harsh consequences really do deter problem behaviors, or whether they just make more extreme behaviors more likely.

      Real Democrats don't abandon the middle class. --John Kerry

      by Lucy Montrose on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 02:36:45 PM PST

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      •  Apples and oranges (0+ / 0-)

        Facebook postings and political activity are free speech issues.  But your choice of intoxicant is not.

        If I don't want to rent an apartment to a cigar smoker, or employ a pot-smoker, why should I be forced to do so?

  •  Drug testing will be a big minefield. (2+ / 0-)
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    xanthippe2, snazzzybird

    Firing people for conduct that is utterly private and lawful is gonna be problematic. Sure, an employer could toss someone who shows up for work high, but if they're sober at work, that should trump any form of punishment.

    Coming Soon -- to an Internet connection near you:

    by FischFry on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 01:57:08 PM PST

  •  God forbid that the La Jolla 'La-Tee-Das' be ... (1+ / 0-)
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    forced to put up with some sea lion shit.

    Maybe now the 1% knows what it is like for the 47% to be forced to put up with their shit.  

    Caution: The reality in the mirror may be closer than it appears.

    by glb3 on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 02:25:29 PM PST

  •  My brain has been lying to me for years now (0+ / 0-)

    Crappy brain chemistry

    Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

    by a gilas girl on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 02:29:46 PM PST

  •  Indiana Jones on Cruz' choice to drop (1+ / 0-)
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    his Canadian citizenship over his adopted American citizenship:

    "He chose poorly."

    What we call god is merely a living creature with superior technology & understanding. If their fragile egos demand prayer, they lose that superiority.

    by agnostic on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 02:49:35 PM PST

  •  state banks for state purposes. (0+ / 0-)

    there is no reason why a city should issue Tax Free Municipals and then send them out to wall street,
    when the city could go to a state bank,
    have the state bank borrow from the fed for these
    and issue the bonds.

    any profit rolls back to the state treasury.

    it would be a simple way to keep the flow of funds

  •  like (0+ / 0-)

    my buddy's step-aunt makes $82/hr on the computer. She has been out of work for 10 months but last month her paycheck was $18010 just working on the computer for a few hours. read this...http://WWW.dub30.COM

  •  Smoldering cow chips? (0+ / 0-)
    Bingo. Personally, I think there's much more danger from the recreational consumption of tired Beltway pundits like David Brooks.
    I think a better analogy would be to second-hand smoke.

    My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right.—Carl Schurz
    "Shared sacrifice!" said the spider to the fly.—Me

    by KingBolete on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 07:11:19 PM PST

  •  No justice (0+ / 0-)

    Just heard an NPR story about the successor to the college championship BCS system which is being replaced by a small number of playoff games.  The entrants and seeding is going to be handled by a committee.  When asked about how well it could be expected to work, the reporter replied that since the committee had people on it like Condi Rice, it had a lot of credibility.  Isn't it neat to live in a country where large-scale war crimes provide credibility rather than culpability.

    My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right.—Carl Schurz
    "Shared sacrifice!" said the spider to the fly.—Me

    by KingBolete on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 07:17:07 PM PST

  •  Pot Protections (0+ / 0-)

    Problem is that most likely these protections, if passed in state, would potentially lose a SCOTUS challenge if they reach that far in appeals.  Until it's legalized nationwide there will be little protection I'm guessing.

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