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Senator-elect Bernie Sanders (I-VT) is interviewed by a Reuters reporter at Sanders' office in Burlington, Vermont November 28, 2006. Sanders, a 16-year veteran of the House of Representatives who swept 65 percent of the vote in Vermont running as an inde

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) had a productive holiday break, asking the National Security Agency if "the NSA spied, or is the NSA currently spying, on members of Congress or other American elected officials?" The NSA responded:
“NSA’s authorities to collect signals intelligence data include procedures that protect the privacy of US persons. Such protections are built into and cut across the entire process. Members of Congress have the same privacy protections as all US persons. NSA is fully committed to transparency with Congress. Our interaction with Congress has been extensive both before and since the media disclosures began last June.

“We are reviewing Senator Sanders’s letter now, and we will continue to work to ensure that all members of Congress, including Senator Sanders, have information about NSA’s mission, authorities, and programs to fully inform the discharge of their duties.”

In other words, yes, they are treating members of Congress like every other American, and thus are collecting mass data from them along with everyone else, though apparently they're working on a more complete response. Given that the NSA has admitted to baldly lying to Congress, further clarification probably won't be too convincing.

Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Mon Jan 06, 2014 at 01:49 PM PST.

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  •  Tip Jar (53+ / 0-)

    "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. [...] There would be no place to hide."--Frank Church

    by Joan McCarter on Mon Jan 06, 2014 at 01:49:59 PM PST

  •  Of course they're spying on Sen. Sanders, (18+ / 0-)

    he's a Socialist.

    I think it's a damned shame that J. Edgar Hoover isn't alive to see it, with Clyde Tolson and DeLoach in tow.

    Pope Francis: the Thumb of Christ in the eyes of the Pharisees.

    by commonmass on Mon Jan 06, 2014 at 01:53:11 PM PST

    •  Here, let me fix that for you (23+ / 0-)

      Of course they're spying on Sen. Sanders, he's a Socialist an American.

      The weaseling in that response was discussed at length around here this weekend, with the authoritarian caucus trying to assure us everything was hunky dory with the NSA.  A very representative sample is included above:

      “We are reviewing Senator Sanders’s letter now, and we will continue to work to ensure that all members of Congress, including Senator Sanders, have information about NSA’s mission, authorities, and programs to fully inform the discharge of their duties.”
      They make no undertaking to provide accurate or complete information, of course.  Until somebody goes to jail for lying to Congress, they won't either.

      We have always been at war with al Qaeda.

      by Dallasdoc on Mon Jan 06, 2014 at 02:16:55 PM PST

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      •  Don't you love how (16+ / 0-)

        The Media fell all over itself to bury Sanders' request in the Friday News Dump and then the NSA put out their disingenuous bullshit response on Saturday? Who the fuck in Official Washington answers a sitting Senator on a weekend?

        I seriously think this latest blatant attempt at news burial--and the attendant result of it (that Congress is spied on as well) needs a blogathon. I really do. MSM isn't talking about it at all as of this morning, near as I can tell. Oh, too much New News! Losing Liz Drops Carpetbagging Attempt!

        This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

        by lunachickie on Mon Jan 06, 2014 at 02:30:22 PM PST

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      •  Bingo! (1+ / 0-)
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        NSA: "Members of Congress have the same privacy protections as all US persons."

        Translation: None.

        Everything we have that counts as privacy is granted at the judgment of the Permanent Government bureaucracy.

        There are no "rights."

        The Fourth Amendment died years ago.

        "9/11 changed everything." It opened the door for a shift of power.

        They have to "protect" us. And gawd knows what "protect" means. We should have gotten a clue when General Petraeus, a competent general and anti-terror expert and basically honest, was trashed for fxcking an adult, legal piece of xss.

        They are power mad and they are anti-sex.

        Interesting formula.

        •  First, let's look at some known facts (1+ / 0-)
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          Each house of Congress has a SCIF, where classified information can be reviewed. They have SIPRnet and JWICS in particular, so secret, top secret and SCI information can be viewed.
          That is really, really ancient news.

          Snowden accessed data that was available via JWICS and SIPRnet. Period. He had no special access that anyone else didn't have to access the files that he did.
          That was a result of the 9-11 intelligence debacle, where information was not shared, so all of the pieces of the puzzle was in a dozen different agencies. So, access was streamlined to share. Then came Manning, now Snowden.

          Meanwhile, Congress retains access to the data as part of their oversight duties. If Congress lost access, the agency restricting Congressional oversight access would lose funding.
          Lose funding in a New York minute.

          So, for Congress to not know and accept the NSA programs that have long been running, one of two things has happened.
          Either a half dozen committees per house of Congress didn't do their job in oversight or they know damned right well what has been going on.
          Want my take on it? They knew, they know, they are fine with what was and is going on and the only ones making noise are giving bread and circuses to the unwashed masses.
          Otherwise, the NSA would've had its funding threatened on day one of the Snowden leaks.

    •  They're spying on Dianne Feinstein too (2+ / 0-)
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      waterstreet2013, OldDragon

      just saying, the Socialist part of the equation is neither here nor there in the bigger scheme of things

  •  Wonder if the NSA spies on itself (14+ / 0-)

    Bad habits are SO hard to break.

    Shall we go? Yes, let's go.

    by whenwego on Mon Jan 06, 2014 at 02:01:25 PM PST

    •  Through a scanner (5+ / 0-)
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      Rogneid, kurious, OHdog, NonnyO, stevemb


      If I ran this circus, things would be DIFFERENT!

      by CwV on Mon Jan 06, 2014 at 02:33:58 PM PST

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    •  oh yes - people with security Most spied upon (11+ / 0-)

      he makes this point in his talk and his book

      i had not noticed him before -

      note the title of his book AMERICAN COUP

      the Cspan statement about his talk

      William Arkin talked about his book, American Coup: How a Terrified Government Is Destroying the Constitution, in which he argues that unelected officials in our national security establishment are undermining our constitutional rights. He argued that these bureaucrats, in the name of fighting terrorism, have figured out ways to work between the letter of the law and continue to remain largely untouchable, despite the many whistle-blower disclosures.
      he has spend decades writing about national security

      here is link to Cspan presentation

      he co authored a book with Dana Priest in 2011 and I recall the title

      Top Secret America: The Rise of the New American Security State
      Book by William Arkin and Dana Priest
      The top-secret world that the government created in response to the 9/11 terrorist attacks has become so enormous, so unwieldy, and so secretive that no one knows how much money it costs, how many people ... Google Books

    •  The NSA does not spy on itself (5+ / 0-)
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      quill, Sandino, Creosote, sidnora, stevemb

      It contracts out the spying to corporations such as Booz Allen Hamilton (which has connections to The Carlyle Group which has connections to ex-CIA director Poppy Bush before he became VP & P, as well as James A. Baker III... AND has connections to the Bin Laden family, et cetera and so on and so forth; really, the name dropping in the Wiki article is a Who's Who list of unindicted criminals).

      If anyone is spying on the NSA, it's Booz Allen Hamilton and/or any other corporations who are busy spying on us!  The business of corporations is to make record-setting profits.  They'll no doubt sell various aspects of the info to other corporations for such things are targeting ads and other nefarious nonsense.

      I think I know one way now which is involved with this new thing of TV networks adding a week to when shows can be watched for free (with ads, of course).  If you go to the ABC site to see if you can watch a new show there the morning following, now they want people to "voluntarily" give them the name of one's online streaming video provider (which I don't have because I adamantly refuse to pay good money to receive ads I loathe and can see for free no matter what), and they want permission for you to "voluntarily" allow them to place tracking cookies on your computer.  (Really?!?  What kinds of cookies?  Is "voluntarily" allowing spying cookies a way for these idiots to say we give up our rights to privacy by doing so and try to claim one has no right to privacy if one has consented to letting them acquire whatever info they want, that we're fully aware they're spying on us???)  No voluntary info, no streaming services you've already signed up for, you can't view.  You have to wait a week to view the latest video of any new series shows on Hulu (I think; we are not to next week yet; I just tried to watch Sunday night's Revenge @ 5 a.m. this morning, and it's a no go)..., and one can subscribe to paid services on Hulu, but it's no different from free Hulu because the paid side also shows ads.  From whichever kind of corporate TV broadcasting streaming web or cable services:  If I pay, you can't show me the f#cking ads I loathe!!!

      In any case, one can be spied on illegally and unconstitutionally without consent... or give consent to another corporation who can spy on people through tracking cookies.  As you might have guessed, I didn't click on any consent to tracking cookies and backed out of that idiocy.  I can wait another week to watch the show on Hulu.  Or never.  I don't really care, but I won't consent to tracking cookies or pay to get ads and I won't pay for "bundled" services if it means sports networks get even one penny of my money for networks I'd never, ever watch.  Really, how many channels can one person watch?  I get to pick and choose if I pay for these bits of idiocy.

      I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

      by NonnyO on Mon Jan 06, 2014 at 04:49:56 PM PST

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      •  Booz Allen Hamilton (0+ / 0-)

        I worked with them on our network accreditation. They were contracted by DISA to provide a nice software package to document DoD networks for accreditation.
        Once we learned the software, documenting the network was easy, but not trivial.
        We turned a seven year old IATO (interim authority to operate) into a full ATO (authority to operate) in around a month.
        The older system took longer, due to cumbersome procedures that were smoothed out with the Booz Allen Hamilton system.

        Know what data went back to Booz Allen Hamilton? Feedback on the utility of the software and bug reports.

        Now, do they have other federal contracts? I'm sure. They also have some Fortune 500 contracts as well.

        This "contractors are evil" crap really needs to get some sanity.
        Evil? No.
        Ready to suck up every penny that they can? Yes, they're a business, that is what businesses do.
        The biggest problem with government contractors is oversight. In the DoD in particular, there is a moderate degree of regulatory capture, as the companies hire military officers upon retirement. Officers that previously supervised the contracting firm that they were hired by after they retire.

    •  NSA spying on itself? (0+ / 0-)

      In a word:

      Data in and out is monitored. They also monitor all DoD traffic.
      I used to get alerts for the DoD network I was responsible for information assurance on, when suspect traffic (largely malware) was detected.
      Got an alert for a couple of spills as well (classified information on the wrong classification network, such as secret on an unclassified network, TS or SCI on a secret network, etc).

      The NSA is part of the DoD. Hence, police powers are prohibited to them unless an emergency has been declared when the civilian law enforcement is overwhelmed.
      Of course, the FBI has liaison officers working alongside of NSA personnel.
      That said, anything intercepted without a warrant and acted upon would get the almighty flush by even the secret courts.

  •  Bravo Bernie! (8+ / 0-)

    Of course when they spy on everyone, that includes Congress!

    If I ran this circus, things would be DIFFERENT!

    by CwV on Mon Jan 06, 2014 at 02:35:25 PM PST

  •  I don't think they're that concerned... (1+ / 0-)
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    with Senator Sanders.

    I'm not paranoid or anything. Everyone just thinks I am.

    by Jim Riggs on Mon Jan 06, 2014 at 02:37:15 PM PST

  •  The surreal truth... (13+ / 0-)

    If someone had asked me, even 15-20 years ago, whether I'd be discussing the reality that our government spies on everyone, including elected officials, on a virtually universal basis, I would have thought that person was out of their mind.

    Now, virtually our entire government's out of its mind and many people, even here, never mind in the MSM where denial also runs rampant (at least those with no understanding nor context of 20th Century American History), discuss this matter-of-factly.

    'Tis a profoundly sad state we're in.  

    "I always thought if you worked hard enough and tried hard enough, things would work out. I was wrong." --Katharine Graham

    by bobswern on Mon Jan 06, 2014 at 02:46:10 PM PST

  •  not that I have any direct info... (4+ / 0-)
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    Betty Pinson, Don midwest, NonnyO, stevemb

    ...but I would assume so, along the lines of The Question from the billiant mid-2000s Justice League cartoon:

    Question: ...or eating Peanut Butter and Banana sandwiches.

    Supergirl: You went through my TRASH?

    Question: Please. I go though everyone's trash

    I just assume the NSA is monitoring everyone.

    We have no desire to offend you -- unless you are a twit!

    by ScrewySquirrel on Mon Jan 06, 2014 at 02:57:34 PM PST

  •  Also, Senator Sanders wants to know (7+ / 0-)

    what you think about the government spying on YOU.  All zip codes accepted.

    •  Interesting results, too... thus far (3+ / 0-)
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      Sunspots, dharmafarmer, stevemb

      Not that many people have answered yet and I don't know when those two questions were put online, but if these early numbers are any indication, 'NOT necessary' and 'Too much intrusion' will be between 95-100%.

      I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

      by NonnyO on Mon Jan 06, 2014 at 05:17:12 PM PST

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  •  Judging by their reply (5+ / 0-)
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    annieli, foresterbob, NonnyO, Sunspots, stevemb

    I'd say the answer is "yes".  If they weren't they would have said so.

    If cutting Social Security & Medicare benefits for low income seniors is what Democrats do after they win a budget standoff, I'd hate to see what they do after they lose one.

    by Betty Pinson on Mon Jan 06, 2014 at 02:59:13 PM PST

    •  And if... (2+ / 0-)
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      raboof, OldDragon

      they said they were not, we would know they were lying.

      "[I]n the absence of genuine leadership, they'll listen to anyone who steps up to the microphone...They're so thirsty for it they'll crawl through the desert toward a mirage, and when they discover there's no water, they'll drink the sand."

      by cardboardurinal on Tue Jan 07, 2014 at 05:40:48 PM PST

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  •  Haven't you heard, Senator? (4+ / 0-)
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    maryabein, Don midwest, NonnyO, stevemb

    Some people, around here at least, think the NSA NEEDS to "keep an eye on Congress."

    To make sure y'all aren't trying to start wars or anything.

    These people are few in number, but their idiocy oftentimes manages to find its way into these posts.

    I hope this diary, likely destined for the front page, will be spared.

    Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us. ~ J. Garcia

    by DeadHead on Mon Jan 06, 2014 at 02:59:31 PM PST

    •  or, better, (5+ / 0-)

      to make sure that they ARE starting wars.

      Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

      by corvo on Mon Jan 06, 2014 at 03:11:46 PM PST

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    •  I am sure he already knows... (2+ / 0-)
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      Sunspots, stevemb

      He just want's to get the rest of Congress, and the rest of us, to think about the implications.

      "Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana." --Townes Van Zandt

      by Bisbonian on Mon Jan 06, 2014 at 05:21:18 PM PST

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      •  Already knows what? (1+ / 0-)
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        Mr Robert

        That there's a dedicated, but ever-dwindling number of authoritarian NSA apologists still prancing around DailyKos, dutifully propagating their talking points — talking points only they and the few individuals misguided enough to rec their comments actually take seriously?

        That was the gist of my comment above.

        Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us. ~ J. Garcia

        by DeadHead on Tue Jan 07, 2014 at 06:01:18 PM PST

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  •  Greenwald tweet on Sanders & media (8+ / 0-)
    Glenn Greenwald ‏@ggreenwald 1h

    Bernie Sanders the latest member of Congress to praise Snowden, calls for a form of clemency or "leniency"

    another tweet showing our brave media who is doing the work of propaganda
    Glenn Greenwald ‏@ggreenwald 1h

    Inside DOJ: "isn't it awesome how we don't even need to advocate for the prosecution of sources, since we have journalists doing it for us?"

    in addition to journalists, there are politicians working for the security state

    Senator Chuck Schumer who was trying to get free the Israili man who stole National Security Information from the US wants to prosecute Snowden. Schumer was on TV on the weekend saying that Snowden should come back for trial knowing full well that evidence could not be brought out in the court.

    Zaid Jilani ‏@ZaidJilani 2h

    Chuck Schumer wants Edward Snowden in jail but wanted clemency for spy who gave Israel U.S. secrets … @ggreenwald

  •  Probably the FBI is spying on him for the NSA... (4+ / 0-)
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    maryabein, NonnyO, Sunspots, stevemb

    Meet the Spies Doing the NSA's Dirty Work

    "...Lost in the commotion has been the story of the NSA's indispensable partner in its global spying operations: an obscure, clandestine unit of the Federal Bureau of Investigation that, even for a surveillance agency, keeps a low profile.

    When the media and members of Congress say the NSA spies on Americans, what they really mean is that the FBI helps the NSA do it, providing a technical and legal infrastructure that permits the NSA, which by law collects foreign intelligence, to operate on U.S. soil..."

    Although, the NSA could "wiretap anyone,  from you or your accountant, to a federal judge or even the president..."

    And: "other agencies clamor for data NSA compiles". There's the "NSA-DEA police state tango" where the..

    ...DEA has been using the immense pools of data collected by the NSA, CIA, FBI and other intelligence agencies to go after American citizens for ordinary drug crimes...
    DEA Agents Are Told To Cover Up Spying Program Used Against Americans and "IRS manual detailed DEA's use of hidden intel evidence"...

    Senator Sanders probably doesn't have to worry about that if he "hasn't done anything wrong" though. (snark)

    If Senator Sanders has called or corresponded with anyone outside the US, his activity was likely duly noted by one of the 3-letter agencies:  N.S.A. Said to Search Content of Messages to and From U.S.

    It's not as if anyone in government has ever monitored the personal conversations of innocent Americans or tried to use intelligence information against critics or to spy on First Amendment Activity.

    Congress members who don't think their conversations and communications are, have been, or will be of great interest to someone with access to the massive amounts of data being gathered on Americans may just be a wee bit naive, and Senator Sanders is not naive.

  •  The NSA is one of some 17 spy agencies.... (5+ / 0-)

    Frankly, the focus on NSA is getting tiresome.  We are all getting duped.  They may become the sacrificial goat--we have some hearings, pass a law restricting them, and go home.  Except that all the other spy agencies continue business as usual.

    For a bunch of otherwise intelligent and informed commentators, I am stunned by the naivete of the postings on this board about spying.  

    1.  If we shut down NSA, there are other agencies still doing this.

    2.  If we shut them all down, others will sprout, probably in even deeper secrecy.  It's like cancer.

    3.  All of this skullduggery depends on access to the telecom and internet channels run by supposedly private corporations.  NSA doesn't have infrastructure of its own--we make calls using Verizon and search for stuff using Google.  We aren't going to make a dent in this spying stuff until we do something about corporate data hoarding.

    But, oh, no, getting strangers to "like" us on line is more important than protecting our personal privacy.  We get what we deserve.

    The Wanderer, from somewhere over the Pacific...

    by Wanderer1961 on Mon Jan 06, 2014 at 10:08:34 PM PST

    •  "Even if NSA's controversial program were shut... (3+ / 0-)
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      down tomorrow, another government agency that is busy collecting and retaining...

      ...personal data would keep humming along. True accountability for the government’s surveillance activities should also include an airing of -- and tighter restrictions on -- the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s power to collect and store substantial amounts of innocuous information about Americans.

      Since 2008, for instance, the FBI has had the authority to conduct “assessments” -- investigations that require no suspicion of criminal activity...

      ...And what does the FBI do with all of the information it has gathered on innocent Americans? The bureau maintains it for decades, just in case it may be useful in the future...

      The official guidelines governing the agency’s activities are explicit: All information it collects is kept and sometimes shared, “regardless of whether it furthers investigative objectives,” because it may “eventually serve a variety of valid analytic purposes” -- even if that means keeping the information in an FBI database for as long as 30 years...

    •  And it's FBI grabbing the domestic data. (0+ / 0-)

      That's including whatever they've got tracking Congress.

      They have first-dibs on all of it.

      Not NSA.

  •  If Congress is being (5+ / 0-)

    'monitored' then there can be no whistleblowers because they would get cut off at the pass before they could make contact with a legislator.

    See how that works?

  •  Short Answer, Bernie: For-effin'-sure. n/t (2+ / 0-)
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    Mayfly, OldDragon

    Fiat justitia ruat caelum "Let justice be done though the heavens fall."

    by bobdevo on Tue Jan 07, 2014 at 04:12:56 AM PST

  •  That's One Way To Put It (0+ / 0-)
    Members of Congress have the same privacy protections as all US persons.
    It's amazing how many flawlessly polite and impeccably tasteful ways there are to write "FUCK YOU".

    On the Internet, nobody knows if you're a dog... but everybody knows if you're a jackass.

    by stevemb on Tue Jan 07, 2014 at 07:14:28 AM PST

  •  I wouldn't characterize a statement (1+ / 0-)
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    that all Americans are subject to spying means a Congressperson is being subject at the same level.  And there is no denial that they be subject to closer scrutiny which NSA thinks is appropriate and legal.

    "So listen, oh, Don't wait." Vampire Weekend.

    by Publius2008 on Tue Jan 07, 2014 at 05:35:19 PM PST

  •  Are they? Not intentionally. (0+ / 0-)

    More is expected from us. The challenge in life is finding out the names of those who really give a rip.

    by glb3 on Tue Jan 07, 2014 at 05:48:33 PM PST

  •  If I may be so bold to play One Word Answer Man.. (0+ / 0-)


    The USA and the rest of the world face a dangerous enemy that not only threatens our freedom but our very existence. This enemy is deeply embedded within society and is actively working towards our annihilation. That enemy is ignorance.

    by Ex Con on Tue Jan 07, 2014 at 06:05:00 PM PST

  •  Spying on all of Congress (2+ / 0-)
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    OleHippieChick, OldDragon

    The Cheney/Bush administration was likely spying on and blackmailing republican members of Congress with what they found in emails and phone calls.

    Doubtful?  Just think of all the stupid, asinine things republicans said and did and continue to say and do.  What in the world could make them do what they do and say what they say other than blackmail and fear of exposure?

  •  LoL (0+ / 0-)

    Yes, collecting metadata that two judges, living in two different worlds, both declared NOT to belong to you…  with one stating the obvious, that if you want this to change, Congress will need to do it.

    So…  let's give the Senate up by joining the GOP chorus of the Evil Tyrannical Obama.


    None of you are serious about this AT ALL.  FAUX (FOX) outrage.

    'Slower Traffic - Keep Right!'

    by luvbrothel on Tue Jan 07, 2014 at 06:37:21 PM PST

    •  Why (0+ / 0-)

      Don't you ever reply to the replies made to your douchey, NSA-luvin' comments?

      Here's a clue, genius:

      If we lose the Senate, it'll be Obama's fault, just like it was when we got "shellacked" in 2010. Yes, I blame him.

      We don't like our rights shit upon by him, his spy agencies, and his sycophantic enablers.

      Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us. ~ J. Garcia

      by DeadHead on Tue Jan 07, 2014 at 09:23:03 PM PST

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  •  So many are embracing the elitist premise (0+ / 0-)

    that is inherent in Sanders' question.  For the question's premise is, "Spying on Americans is bad enough, but spying on any member of Congress is even more outrageous, so much so that I'm going to make a specific issue about that."

    NSA's bulk surveillance obviously would catch communications by Congressmen along with everyone else.  Sanders' question almost implicitly complains that NSA didn't make an effort to exclude Congressmen's communications from surveillance, that NSA should have made an exception for Congressmen.  That is an elitist position, surprising for a socialist.

  •  sen sanders (0+ / 0-)

    is legitimately left of center and because of his political views you can bet your life the nsa is spying on him and reporting their findings to the right wingers (including dems) that call him friend.

  •  No they are not spying (0+ / 0-)

    but magically knoew the contents of his letter within nanoseconds of his writing it.

    Democrats give you the Bill of Rights; Republicans sell you a bill of goods!

    by barbwires on Tue Jan 07, 2014 at 08:10:39 PM PST

  •  NSA Spies on everyone (1+ / 0-)
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    Bernie, you know they are spying on you just like everyone else. The NSA has to know all about all of us. What's left to know? Want to know what brand of toilet paper I buy? Oh yeah, you know that from my credit card. Consider your privacy officially gone.

  •  Dear Bernie, gee... ya' think? Sincerely, Duh (0+ / 0-)

    elipsii: helping the masses express aposiopesis for...

    by bnasley on Tue Jan 07, 2014 at 10:19:21 PM PST

  •  Short for YES we are. (0+ / 0-)

    Yes, they are.
    By now, we all know what's going on.  We know the truth.
    Why do we know now ?  One guy.  One guy decided he was willing to throw his life away, so people like Bernie Sanders could ask questions.  So people like Bernie Sanders could ask if this was legal, and who we wanted to be.

    Who's the guy ?

    " With religion you can't get just a little pregnant"

    by EarTo44 on Wed Jan 08, 2014 at 04:53:26 AM PST

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