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I can't understand the ongoing, intense Al Gore hatred of climate science deniers.

Leonardo DiCaprio & Al Gore @ Live Earth, Giant Stadium It made some sense when An Inconvenient Truthcame out, but that was seven years ago. Gore stepped back from a leadership role in the climate action movement around the time of his divorce in 2010 and now rarely makes public appearances.

But far-right conservatives apparently still hate Gore with the fury of a thousand global warming-fueled wildfires. What's weird is they simultaneously try to portray Gore as this big fat pathetic loser AND as this wealthy jet-setting holier-than-thou asshole.

Are they still trying to prove he didn't win that election that he would've won via a full recount if the Republican-controlled Supreme Court hadn't ordered it shut down? Or that while George W. Bush's disastrous presidency destroyed the Republican brand, Gore is in many ways MORE respected than he was in 2000?

Gore went through something that would've left most people angry at the world. Just look at how much John McCain hates Barack Obama and opposes everything they once agreed on from climate action to immigration reform - and McCain lost fair & square.

Yet Gore went on Saturday Night Live to laugh about the experience and never stopped fighting for what he believes in.

Is that what grates Fox News types the most - that they haven't been able to break Gore's spirit and make him shut up & go away?

Cross-posted from The Green Miles

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  •  fyi (3+ / 0-)
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    annecros, valion, chimene

    Are they still trying to prove he didn't win that election that he would've won via a full recount if the Republican-controlled Supreme Court hadn't ordered it shut down?

    ----

    From you wikipedia link...

    "Following the election, recounts conducted by various United States news media organizations indicated that Bush would have won if certain recounting methods had been used (including the one favored by Gore at the time of the Supreme Court decision) but that Gore might have won under other scenarios."

  •  They have an ongoing, intense hatred (10+ / 0-)

    of anybody who falls into the categories of "not-them" and "doesn't-agree". That includes, Gore, Obama, any Clinton, most professional climate scientists, and of course you and me. So this should come as no surprise...

    If you probe a bit deeper, you'll find that they also hate people who ARE them and appear to agree, because they might be lying. They just hate them a little less.

    •  If they didn't hate, they would be - empty (2+ / 0-)
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      Linda1961, chimene

      If you have no sense of responsibility, no sense of duty, no love, no joy, no kindness, no compassion, no empathy, and no ideals, what is left but hatred, paranoia, and envy?

      Warren/Grayson 2016! Yes We Can!

      by BenFranklin99 on Thu Jan 09, 2014 at 04:35:56 PM PST

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    •  They currently hate (1+ / 0-)
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      Mayfly

      Blacks and other minorities

      Women

      Immigrants, legal or illegal

      Muslims

      LGBTs

      Workers

      The poor

      The young

      The old

      and each other.

      There's no one left but We and Thee,
      And We're not sure of Thee!
      The John Birch Society, sung by The Chad Mitchell Trio

      Ceterem censeo, gerrymandra delenda est

      by Mokurai on Thu Jan 09, 2014 at 09:59:35 PM PST

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  •  Part of their 'bubble'. (6+ / 0-)

    They live in a media environment completely closed off from the real world.

    Time marches on in the real world, and Gore, a climate spokesman from several years ago, is now mostly a historical footnote in the larger story of climate change and the evidence we see around us.

    Yet, they are unable or unwilling to accept, or even see the progress of the understanding of climate change in the real world.

    So, in their stasis bubble, Al Gore is still the climate change messiah.

    It's really weird.

    •  It's Probably Name Recognition. Carter Was Their (5+ / 0-)

      whipping boy all the way till Clinton became competitive for the 92 nomination. About 12 years after leaving office.

      Gore's by far the biggest name Dem who's championed the issue.

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Thu Jan 09, 2014 at 12:51:06 PM PST

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      •  The big thing that stuck out to me about the (1+ / 0-)
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        1996 election was that it was the first of the elections I was old enough to vote in where the Republicans weren't running against Jimmy Carter.

        Unfortunately when smart and educated people get crazy ideas they can come up with plausibly truthy arguments. -- Andrew F Cockburn

        by ebohlman on Thu Jan 09, 2014 at 03:18:34 PM PST

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  •  It's probably nothing personal. (4+ / 0-)

    Everyone knows that your low-information voter doesn't think about issues; (s)he thinks about personalities.  Throw enough mud at the personality, and you win, even if your side of the issue is bankrupt.

    That's why every conversation about privacy and national security on this very site, for instance, immediately gets dragged down into a debate over the real or imagined personality flaws of Assange, Manning, Greenwald, and Snowden.

    Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

    by corvo on Thu Jan 09, 2014 at 12:41:50 PM PST

  •  Al Gore is creepy (2+ / 0-)
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    annecros, Kvetchnrelease

    I voted for Al Gore in 2000, because we Democrats were stuck with him, his being the sitting vice-president and all.  But I never liked his persona.

    He has an irritating habit of talking to people as though they are in the second grade, exceeded only by Libby Dole, who sounded like a kindergarten teacher. His sighing when the other person is talking is offensive.  His getting in George W. Bush’s space during the debate was weird.  And the big sloppy kiss he gave his wife at the convention put me off sex for three days.

    In short, it is simply very easy not to like Al Gore.  Those who deny climate change would naturally have a certain amount of animus toward anyone who affirms it, but it is intensified by his grating personality.

    •  Creepy? Speak for yourself. (4+ / 0-)
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      TheGreenMiles, flevitan, Radiowalla, ROGNM

      Sighing? Getting in Bush's personal space? Patronizing?  Adam Clymer, is that you? Perhaps it's Margaret Carlson?

      "Valerie, why am I getting all these emails calling me a classless boor?"

      by TLS66 on Thu Jan 09, 2014 at 01:17:52 PM PST

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    •  I know what you mean (1+ / 0-)
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      Mayfly
      He has an irritating habit of talking to people as though they are in the second grade,
      I've known other people like that.  I don't think they realize it, but it's very irritating and makes you not want to even talk with them.  

      That said, I don't get that sense from Al Gore, which leads me to think that kind of reaction springs more from how one processes statements by other individuals than about anything intrinsic to their personality or conversation style.

    •  He's from Tennessee (1+ / 0-)
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      Mayfly

      He's from Tennessee.  Anyone with an IQ higher than his shoe size who lives in Tennessee would get used to talking down to people.

      Warren/Grayson 2016! Yes We Can!

      by BenFranklin99 on Thu Jan 09, 2014 at 04:39:08 PM PST

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      •  Many of my dear ones were from Tennessee--east, (1+ / 0-)
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        Neuroptimalian

        middle, and west. You have no idea how hard it was to make a living and successful career  in east Tennessee where Gore and his family lived. No one below average could have accomplished it.  

        Gore's Dad was from east Tennessee--where at that time a  compliment  was--"He could make a living on a rock."

        My experience is that they are tough people--some narrow, but most bright.

        The right of the women of this State to be secure in their persons against unreasonable searches shall not be violated by the State legislature.

        by Mayfly on Thu Jan 09, 2014 at 06:08:35 PM PST

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      •  What? People with above average IQs ... (0+ / 0-)

        are only born in elite states?  Who knew.  I wonder how Mother Nature is able to differentiate?

        /s

        Perhaps Gore's blatant hypocrisy is the reason some people dislike him.  If he believed in what he preaches, he wouldn't lead the lifestyle he does.

        "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the universe." -- Albert Einstein

        by Neuroptimalian on Thu Jan 09, 2014 at 06:38:55 PM PST

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  •  Same reason they hate Saul Alinsky (3+ / 0-)
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    TheGreenMiles, blueyedace2, Mayfly

    even though most of them have no idea who he was.

    •  Glenn Beck has made a career (3+ / 0-)
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      of getting people to hate relatively obscure people they otherwise would have never heard of.  I mean, really, Frances Fox Piven?

      Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

      by corvo on Thu Jan 09, 2014 at 12:53:21 PM PST

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    •  This one is easy (3+ / 0-)
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      TheGreenMiles, Kvetchnrelease, Mayfly

      Saul Alinsky was probably more of a leftish version of Barack Obama (one of his acolytes) than he was a hard left dead ender.  And the right has paid Alinsky the ultimate compliment: they use his tactics much better than we do, with a few extra enhancements.

      On the other hand, if you were writing a screenplay about sixties campus radicals, you'd try to come up with a name like "Saul Alinski" for the older radical-guru-agitator type, because it sounds so 1960s.  It just does.  I'd always assumed he was a guy with unkempt long gray hair, a beard, and hippie beads.  In fact, he looked and dressed like a GE executive circa 1967.  

  •  Heck, they hate George Soros, too (2+ / 0-)
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    TheGreenMiles, blueyedace2

    and he hasn't EVER sent me that check! lol

    I don't love writing, but I love having written ~ Dorothy Parker // Visit my Handmade Gallery on Zibbet

    by jan4insight on Thu Jan 09, 2014 at 01:07:56 PM PST

  •  Al Gore MUST come out with a sequel (4+ / 0-)

  •  Al should give 'em something to hate (4+ / 0-)
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    TLS66, limpidglass, jan4insight, Mayfly

    Gore in 2016!

  •  Why They Hate Gore (5+ / 0-)

    Because deep down, they know Al's right about climate change, and they know he won the election, if you bothered to count the votes.  

    That, and from a marketing perspective, they've invested so much time and effort in building up his negative image among their target audience, it would be foolish to throw it away.

  •  they hate him because he's too smart (3+ / 0-)
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    and he doesn't bother to hide it.

    People are intimidated by superiority. I'm not talking about someone who affects a superior attitude. I'm talking about someone who is superior.

    People fear that, and they resent it, and this resentment finds expression in all sorts of ways, big and small. It's a sort of way of taking revenge on the superior person for his/her superiority. And this is true not just on the right-wing but in all walks of life.

    "Al, why do you care about high-speed computer networks?" "Why are you so worried about the environment?" "Why don't you think we should go into Iraq and knock Saddam off so he doesn't use WMD?" "Robosourcing? What's that?"

    Yet when he identifies an issue as important, it nearly always turns out to be.

    He has a trait very rare among statesmen(women). He sees the world holistically, in terms of interacting systems.

    Most politicians conduct politics at the level of personalities. Heroes, villains, personal charisma, myths and legends, etc. This is how most people perceive politics, and it's how they get emotionally involved in it.

    Gore operates at a more abstract level, and people aren't used to that. Still, he's done an excellent job reaching people and helping them understand these complex, arcane-seeming issues in concrete terms that they can grasp.

    "In America, the law is king." --Thomas Paine

    by limpidglass on Thu Jan 09, 2014 at 04:55:07 PM PST

  •  subconscious guilt (3+ / 0-)
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    Mayfly, TheGreenMiles, Calamity Jean

    Lend a friend money, and over the years  they don't pay it back.  Eventually you will notice that they are angry at you, not from doing them harm, but from being the focus of their guilt for not paying you back.  I believe the same scenario is working here.  Subconsciously and evenly consciously republicans know they stole the 2000 election big time.  They harbor guilt for this malfeasance and transfer it to Mr. Gore as a means to make themselves feel better.  Worst people on earth.

  •  They hate Al Gore because he is plausible & right, (2+ / 0-)
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    TheGreenMiles, Calamity Jean

    The right of the women of this State to be secure in their persons against unreasonable searches shall not be violated by the State legislature.

    by Mayfly on Thu Jan 09, 2014 at 05:57:00 PM PST

  •  Easy: because personal attacks are easier to make (3+ / 0-)
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    Mayfly, TheGreenMiles, Calamity Jean

    ...than substantive policy disagreements. It's the same reason President Obama gets attacked as snobbish and egotistical, or Mrs. Obama as fat, or Hillary Clinton as uncaring, to give just a few examples. Attacking a person for personal failings, real or imagined, pushes away the problem of giving his or her arguments proper consideration, and possibly (horror of horrors!) deciding that he or she might just be right.

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