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For those just joining us: a chemical spill in the Elk River has tainted the water supply for all or part of nine counties around Charleston, WV, affecting around 250,000-300,000 people and thousands of businesses. Schools are closed, and officials are warning that the water is only safe for "flushing toilets and putting out fires."

Governor Tomblin's press conference, originally scheduled for 1:30, has just begun. I'll post updates as I get them.

Meanwhile, there's no clear indication when the emergency will end:

Water company officials still do not know how long it's going to take remove an unknown amount of a hazardous chemical that contaminated water for potentially 300,000 people.

West Virginia American Water President Jeff McIntyre said the company is still learning about the chemical and how to remove it from the 1,500 miles of pipeline that could be affected.

11:21 AM PT: Here's the current list of water distribution sites in the affected region. It's being regularly updated.

11:23 AM PT: Some information from the Charleston Daily Mail about the chemical itself. They've done great reporting on this, and deserve a lot of credit for how they've been on top of events.

The chemical, 4-Methylcyclohexane Methanol, is used as a foaming agent to separate coal from clay particles in the coal-cleaning process.

Paul Ziemkiewicz, director of the West Virginia Water Research Institute, said the chemical is potentially most harmful in skin contact or inhalation.

"It will absorb through your skin," he said. "It will cause irritation to your skin or irritation to your lungs."

It's important to note that the smell of the chemical isn't harmful on its own -- the chemical itself must come into contact with the skin or lungs, or be ingested.  

11:29 AM PT: Dept. of Environmental Protection says that the leak was a total of about 5,000 gallons, not all of which made it to the river. The Governor is continuing to urge people to abide by the water restrictions and not use their tap water for cooking, bathing, drinking, or anything other than flushing toilets.

11:31 AM PT:From Del. Meshea Poore, who is standing front-and-center at the press conference to get info for her constituents:

11:43 AM PT: Disturbing comment from the DEP: they don't know what happens to the chemical when it contacts chlorine, which is used for water treatment. Mobile labs have been brought in to run tests.

11:45 AM PT: The good news, at least in the short run, is that there have only been 4-6 hospital admissions for symptomatic people so far. DHHR Secretary Karen Bowling says that there have been no serious or critical patients at this point.

11:49 AM PT: Press conference concluded. You can listen to further discussion of the event on 58 WCHS's live radio stream: http://player.originpull.cdn.liquidcompass.net/...

11:52 AM PT: BIG RELIEF: the WV Department of Agriculture is declaring that there is no risk posed by livestock being exposed to the contaminated water.

12:06 PM PT: The Governor has set up a donation drop-off site in front of the Capitol for people who have extra supplies. The site is on the Boulevard in front of the Capitol until 6:30 PM. Please note this is NOT a pickup or distribution locations, only a collection point.

12:21 PM PT: Here's the official update page from WV American Water. There's apparently a hoax spreading that's telling people WVAW is cutting off their water and they should fill a bathtub if they want to be able to flush their toilets. WVAW denies that any shutoffs are taking place (and would probably prefer that people not keep large amounts of contaminated water).

12:23 PM PT: LilithGardener, in the comments, notes that there's a chemistry subreddit on 4-methylcyclohexane methanol.

1:38 PM PT: The governor is asking for water, paper plates, cups, etc. - things that would need to be washed and the thing you'd wash 'em in if you had any - so they can be taken to different distribution locations. This is at the Capitol.

Del. Poore adds on Facebook: "If you are elderly, disabled or ill and cannot access water, please call the Emergency Operations Center at 304-746-8828 for assistance. Water will not be delivered to homes unless there is a serious illness."

1:57 PM PT: More information for residents, from Sen. Manchin's office.

4:02 PM PT: There's a need for drivers to help distribute water throughout the area. Since emergency services can't do it alone, Del. Poore and others are working to organize deliveries to seniors and those who can't get to distribution points. If you're in the area and can help, please call.

5:51 PM PT: Efforts to get water to seniors in the affected counties are still underway.

6:10 PM PT: Important reminder from Weatherdude (whose FB feed you should be following anyway:

7:07 PM PT: Suggestions for people outside the area looking for ways to help organized relief efforts:

Originally posted to JR on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 11:19 AM PST.

Also republished by Maryland Kos.

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  •  Tip jar (49+ / 0-)

    Disclaimer: I am a fundraising consultant for Del. Meshea Poore's campaign for Congress from WV-02. This crisis is centered on her constituency, and she's been all over this emergency since it began.

    "Speaking for myself only" - Armando

    by JR on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 11:18:41 AM PST

  •  ... (13+ / 0-)
  •  Isn't the smell (6+ / 0-)

    the chemical in volatile, gaseous form? How is this not 'in contact' with the lungs?

    Or does the smell come from some other volatile associated with the chemical, rather than the chemical itself?

    •  I'm not a chemist by any stretch... (3+ / 0-)

      ...but I have to imagine the odor is pretty noticeable even at very low concentrations, and since the substance is liquid at current temperatures, I don't think it's actually also the vapor people are smelling.

      "Speaking for myself only" - Armando

      by JR on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 11:35:51 AM PST

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      •  From my environmental chem days (7+ / 0-)

        Some things are noticeable as odor at the parts per billion range, which might be far below any toxic level.

        Or far below any economical chemical detection level.  We used to do analysis for sulfur in drinking water, which had a detection limit of about .5 parts per million on the bench test.  I would tell people on the phone not to waste their $25 dollars - if they smelled it, they had it, and we were unlikely to give them anything better than "not detected".

        Sure, we could have put the sample through a gas chromatagraph (GC), but at that point you were talking about $150-200 for the analysis...

      •  Every liquid (3+ / 0-)
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        has a 'vapor pressure' associated with it when it's in equilibrium, which is really the chemical in 'gas form' (e.g. gasoline has a pretty high vapor pressure).

        The later post might be on to something suggesting that this is just two low a dose to cause problems, even if it is the chemical itself being inhaled/smelled.

    •  Smell is due to olfactory receptors in your nose (5+ / 0-)
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      and mouth that respond to specific classes of chemicals.

      Some people are inert to some smells (e.g. Truffles do absolutely nothing for me! I can't tell the difference between something made with truffle oil and something made without.)

      Natural gas, which is methane, is odorless. Because it is dangerous and explosive they add a really obnoxious smelly chemical to it so that people will notice when it's leaking.

      Carbon monoxide is also oderless, and often lethal because by the time someone realizes there is a problem they are already paralyzed.

      Really stinky smells may have not hazard at all - e.g. sulfurous compounds stink to high heaven. IMO, we evolved very sensitive olfactory receptors for those compounds so that we don't eat rotten foods & drink spoiled milk.

      "The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.” — William Arthur Ward

      by LilithGardener on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 12:05:32 PM PST

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  •  Bad situation, I hope the best for people (13+ / 0-)

    in the area. And hope the EPA can hold Freedom Industries responsible to the law's fullest extent. Just another reminder of coal's tragic stronghold in this part of the country.

    "Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell." ~Edward Abbey ////\\\\ "To be a poor man is hard, but to be a poor race in a land of dollars is the very bottom of hardships." ~W.E.B. DuBois

    by rovertheoctopus on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 11:31:06 AM PST

  •  This chemical's a complete unknown. (10+ / 0-)

    Google Scholar searches on the chemical name only find papers on similarly shaped molecules, not this one.

    And the CAS number yields nothing.

    I can't even find out what it takes to measure this stuff's cocnentration in watr.

    •  Yeah - the linked article sums it up (11+ / 0-)

      pretty well:

      I don't love writing, but I love having written ~ Dorothy Parker // Visit my Handmade Gallery on Zibbet

      by jan4insight on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 11:41:29 AM PST

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    •  It's "known" (2+ / 0-)
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      just improperly named in the article

      information is here

      •  Just not known very well. (4+ / 0-)
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        Toxicology data: nil.

        Reactivity data with other substances: nil.

        I can't even find instructions on how to measure its concentration in water.

        •  Probably gas chromatography (3+ / 0-)
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          The chemical is not very soluble in water. It is very volatile and will segregate itself to the surface and evaporate.

          "The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.” — William Arthur Ward

          by LilithGardener on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 12:52:00 PM PST

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        •  Well, a quick drawing of the stucture (5+ / 0-)

          in ChemDraw shows that predicted boiling point is 489 K (or  213 C) - which is over 100 C degrees above that of water.

          Therefore, it should be a fairly simple process to take a set amount of water, boil it at 100 C until all water has evaporated, and measure how much of this chemical remains.  And then verify it's structure by mass spec and NMR.

          Unless I'm missing something quite obvious, this seems to be not all that complicated.

          •  Well done, RG (4+ / 0-)
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            If there was no other water available and no juice, milk, beverages, etc. to give to my aging relative or my infant, to keep them hydrated, and I absolutely had to use the water, I would do exactly what you suggest.

            This is one reason I love Daily Kos. People are willing to dig in and think things through for themselves.... and then share what they think they understand.

            "The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.” — William Arthur Ward

            by LilithGardener on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 01:06:08 PM PST

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            •  You know, I totally agree that it's an outrage (1+ / 0-)
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              that "Big Coal" contaminated hundreds of thousands of people's water with this chemical.

              But OTOH, it rather rankles me that people adopt adopt  a helpless posture (oh gee, there's no way to know about this) - the bottom line is no, this is a rather solvable problem.   Basically any competent undergraduate chemistry major student can figure it out, I'm quite sure.

              •  they called our chem dept.... (4+ / 0-)

                from the newspaper and he said something similar with regard to boiling point.  It floats on water surface, probably accounting for the evaporation.  They are probably dumping this stuff in the water all the time in the mining areas- folks recognized the smell.

                Could be leak was caused by the very low temps- we had lots of broken pipes, and there could have been soil contraction and expansion.  We had a real mess when some of the sprinkers system on an unheated walkway froze and now we have water damage all over our college of science building- with water on asbestos tiles so now we need remediation.  Its a mess- the region has power losses in the past week- some folks just arrived back home in Putnam county.

                You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad. Aldous Huxley

                by murrayewv on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 03:01:49 PM PST

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      •  Hmm. 2 different CAS reference #'s (5+ / 0-)
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        Yesterday I was looking at this one:

        http://www.tcichemicals.com/...

        You're pointing at this one:

        http://www.guidechem.com/...

        The molecular structures seem identical. Is it a chirality difference? Either way, I still can't find any reference material about this stuff.

        •  Great question, oschwar (5+ / 0-)
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          Your link yesterday is to the structure that represents a mixture of stereoisomers.

          The alpha and beta denote the orientation of the methyl or the methanol substituent with respect to the cyclohexane ring.

          The guidechem link points to one of the stereoisomers.

          "The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.” — William Arthur Ward

          by LilithGardener on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 01:22:40 PM PST

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        •  Hmm, I'm not sure why there'd be 2 different (3+ / 0-)
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          CAS numbers.

          Perhaps the data base is not all that well curated and different people entered the same chemical but under different names (which almost makes one pine for some hard-assed IUPAC nomenclature enforcement, for sure!)

          •  One link is a single chemical compound (4+ / 0-)
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            the other link is a mixture of closely related chemical compounds, that have the same composition (number of atoms) but have slightly different structural arrangements.

            "The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.” — William Arthur Ward

            by LilithGardener on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 01:24:44 PM PST

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            •  this was listed as not pure.... (3+ / 0-)
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              so likely a mixture of isomers.

              You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad. Aldous Huxley

              by murrayewv on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 03:02:37 PM PST

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              •  Exactly (2+ / 0-)
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                and since both have the desirable foaming properties it's not necessary to separate them for this industrial use.

                "The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.” — William Arthur Ward

                by LilithGardener on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 03:50:46 PM PST

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                •  MSDS from the impure chemical..... (2+ / 0-)
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                  http://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net/...

                  this suggests there are other chemicals as well as isomers.

                  You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad. Aldous Huxley

                  by murrayewv on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 03:52:53 PM PST

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                  •  Those are all byproducts of (2+ / 0-)
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                    making the chemical.

                    It's reasonable that they weren't using highly purified material for a process that is essentially scrubbing crushed coal.

                    One thing I noted - that MSDS said the solubility in water is "appreciable" which seems at odds with chemical structure and with other reports.

                    "The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.” — William Arthur Ward

                    by LilithGardener on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 04:13:53 PM PST

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                    •  apparently it stunk up the city.... (3+ / 0-)
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                      before they dealt with the problem.

                      Video of Freedom Industries CEO giving a press conference while swigging bottled water like Marco Rubio.

                      You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad. Aldous Huxley

                      by murrayewv on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 04:51:37 PM PST

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                      •  Shades of Rubio? nt (1+ / 0-)
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                        "The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.” — William Arthur Ward

                        by LilithGardener on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 05:17:50 PM PST

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                        •  and the plot thickens.... (2+ / 0-)
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                          here is the latest on Freedom Industries, which has only existed for 2 weeks.  Three companies merged recently and the CEO has been dodging the press until the ill-fated press conference.

                          link  

                          You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad. Aldous Huxley

                          by murrayewv on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 06:14:48 PM PST

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                          •  Did you see his wife/girlfriend's comments? (2+ / 0-)
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                            Here they are from her facebook status this evening:

                            You all know about the chemical leak. It has been an inconvenience and concern to everyone. Going without water usually is. However, no one and no thing, has been harmed due to this leakage.

                            I would like to set a few things straight. But first, I want to thank all of our FRIENDS for your kind words and support. It means more to both Denny & I, than you can imagine, as he has received some very frightening, negative, inappropriate, threatening feedback from many people, mostly strangers, from all over the world. We are not happy about this either folks, but I ask you all to keep in mind that this was an ACCIDENT.

                            The amount actually leaked is yet to be determined but I can tell you it was minimal and this chemical is only a danger to your health in very large amounts. The leak was contained yesterday. The crew at the plant worked diligently to accomplish that. Denny and many others worked yesterday, thru the night and today to make this right, many, including Denny, going without sleep or food. I'm not asking for anyone's sympathy but a little empathy wouldn't hurt. And just so you know, the boys at the plant made and drank coffee this morning! I showered and brushed my teeth this morning and I am just fine!

                            There has been criticism from many about how Freedom Industries is handling this. Denny is not a spokesperson and has no desire to be. His expertise was much needed elsewhere. If he had taken the time to talk to the numerous media networks, giving statements, he would not have been able to react to the situation and perform his job accordingly. It wasn't his decision to hire a spokesperson and it isn't his job to be one.

                            If you have further questions, please refer to the statement issued by the company's President, on WSAZ.

                            Thank you.

                            She could have just come out and said "The little people need to remember their place" and it would have saved her time.  Disgusting people.
                          •  I know- (2+ / 0-)
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                            I think it was neglect, not an accident.  And the stuff really stinks the place up, so that was how they figured it was in the city water.  The water company has 40,000 miles of pipes- and they need to flush them all.

                            You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad. Aldous Huxley

                            by murrayewv on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 08:59:53 PM PST

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                          •  Agreed. (3+ / 0-)
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                            I nearly did a spit take when she said "no one and no thing has been hurt by this leakage."  Who is she kidding?  Nobody can work or go to school, we've got people showing up at the hospital with symptoms, businesses are losing money, and people are panic buying water.  I guess she doesn't see that from the top of her Ivory Tower, though.

                            I've had to completely close off our bathroom here, because the smell coming from the toilet is so strong.  It's also extremely strong outside where I live on the South Charleston side of the river near the stamping plant.  Folks around here are posting videos showing them holding an open flame under running water, and the water won't extinguish the flame.  I won't try it myself, I don't want anywhere near this poison.

                          •  Good part is the wake up call.... (1+ / 0-)
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                            if they start looking at this water.  I work on water toxicology and have been very concerned for a long time.  It is worse for wildlife , since usually water treatment plants do a good job getting stuff like arsenic and selenium out of the water.  But they don't know how to get this stuff out of the now contaminated treatment facility.  My water quality colleagues are very concerned.  I think the crumbling chemical valley infrastructure is coming home to roost too.  Maybe people will being to see a value in EPA now?

                            You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad. Aldous Huxley

                            by murrayewv on Sat Jan 11, 2014 at 05:33:40 AM PST

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                          •  Only if FOX News (0+ / 0-)

                            Can link it to Obama.

  •  Here's the twitter feed, which is often (5+ / 0-)

    the most time-sensitive source of info:

    https://twitter.com/...

    I don't love writing, but I love having written ~ Dorothy Parker // Visit my Handmade Gallery on Zibbet

    by jan4insight on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 11:38:38 AM PST

  •  Tipped, Recced & Tweeted (12+ / 0-)

    Thanks so much for alerting DKos to this unfolding emergency.

    I'm a chemist and will do some research on the toxicity/hazard of 4-Methylcyclohexane Methanol.

    "The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.” — William Arthur Ward

    by LilithGardener on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 11:47:54 AM PST

  •  Chemistry Subreddit had a good dialogue going (8+ / 0-)

    on the chemistry of 4-Methylcyclohexane methanol:

    http://www.reddit.com/...

    This chemical is not new. It is not unknown. I find nothing on it in the Pubmed or even in Pubchem, and that leads me to guess two things:

    1) Human exposure is exceedingly rare - If human exposure Were common, there would be toxicity/metabolism studies readily available.

    2) It might not be toxic - lack of toxicity studies is not proof of that though.

    The chemical has been known for a long time and had an expired 1989 patent for use in Industrial process to separate coal particles from ash and other impurities.

    Process for coal flotation using 4-methyl cyclohexane methanol frothers, US 4915825 A
    It is a foaming agent (like a detergent) what coats chemicals and material that hate water helping them to float. The coal particles sink and the foam/impurities can be separated by skimming.

    Think of the way we can use chicken bones to make homemade broth, we boil, strain the bones and then scrape off the junk from the top of our broth.

    "The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.” — William Arthur Ward

    by LilithGardener on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 12:17:11 PM PST

  •  How did the spill happen? (2+ / 0-)
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    I have been following this and I still haven't seen a word on HOW the spill occurred.  Did I miss it?  

    •  there was a 46000 gallon tank.... (8+ / 0-)

      that developed a leak in the bottom.  That flowed out to the overflow impoundment and then went into the nearby Elk River about 10 AM yesterday.  The tank may still be leaking.  Not sure if the tank completely emptied or if it is still leaking- water company seems VERY concerned and taking precautions.  The alert went out about 5:30 yesterday.  I suspect the worst is near the site of the leak, but the water treatment plant doesn't want to contaminate all their treatment equipment.

      “Contaminants that reach the plant's intake site are removed from the water through the plant's multifaceted treatment process, which includes filtration through advanced Granular Activated Carbon filters," officials said in a statement. "While the treatment process at the Kanawha Valley plant is sufficient to remove contaminants resulting from this chemical spill, our water quality experts will continue to monitor the situation closely and remain in direct contact with the WV Department of Environmental Protection and the chemical supplier.”
      link

      Not affecting Huntington where I live (except everyone is buying bottled water), but it closed schools, restaurants and issues for hospitals and nursing home.  State capitol closed offices, and sent legislature home from their 2 month Jan-Feb work session.

      You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad. Aldous Huxley

      by murrayewv on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 12:50:16 PM PST

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      •  You know they are putting that stuff.... (3+ / 0-)
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        in all the coal washing impoundments.  You know it must be in the water all along.  But they didn't look for it in the water in Kanawah County, just here in Huntington.

        You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad. Aldous Huxley

        by murrayewv on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 12:54:46 PM PST

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        •  The spill was 1 mile upstream.... (5+ / 0-)

          from the water intake.  That is why it is so bad.  Local NPR is reporting the spill was at least 5000 gallons, but it went into soil and then into the river, so actual amount in water is an estimate.

          The Elk is a lovely river with some unique species of crayfish and the endangered diamond darter.

          “The Elk River supports more than 100 species of fish and 30 species of mussels. Protecting diamond darters will help ensure that this river is still a treasure for future generations of people, as well as freshwater animals,” said Curry.

          The diamond darter became a candidate for Endangered Species Act protection in 2009. In 2011 the Center and the Fish and Wildlife Service reached a settlement to speed protections for all the species on the candidate waiting list as of 2010. The Center and a coalition of 16 other conservation groups submitted comments in support of the fish’s protection. More than 4,800 Center supporters submitted comments to the Service in favor of protecting the darter.

          The West Virginia Oil and Natural Gas Association, West Virginia Coal Association, West Virginia Forestry Association and West Virginia Chamber of Commerce all submitted comments opposing the fish’s protection. The industry groups claim that the fish is threatened by inbreeding and not by water-quality degradation, stating that existing laws are adequate to safeguard water quality. In 2011 a law firm representing the National Mining Association made similar claims when a peer-reviewed scientific study revealed that pollution associated with mountaintop removal coal mining is linked to increased incidence of birth defects in humans. The firm alleged that the higher incidence of birth defects could be attributed to “consanguinity.”

          The diamond darter once occurred in the Muskingum River in Ohio; the Ohio River in Ohio, Kentucky and Indiana; the Green River in Kentucky; and the Cumberland River Drainage in Kentucky and Tennessee. It has not been seen in Ohio since 1899, in Kentucky since 1929, and in Tennessee since 1939. The Southeastern Fishes Council named the diamond darter as one of the “Desperate Dozen” — the 12 most imperiled fish in the southeastern United States.

          Diamond darters feed on insects on the stream bottom by burying themselves in the sand and then darting out to ambush prey. They are dependent on clean water to survive because silt fills in the spaces between rocks that they need for egg laying and harms the insects on which they feed. They live from 2 to 7 years.

          link

          You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad. Aldous Huxley

          by murrayewv on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 02:56:18 PM PST

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    •  Leak from a 45,000 tank (5+ / 0-)

      About 5,000 gallons were spilled, though we're told that much fewer actually reached the Elk River. No word yet that I've seen about what caused the leak, when it first began, or why the company didn't see fit to inform the authorities.

      "Speaking for myself only" - Armando

      by JR on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 12:51:46 PM PST

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  •  About - 4methylcyclohexane_methanol (8+ / 0-)

    I can't personally vouch for the accuracy of the post below, because I haven't ready the MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheet). Bear in mind that lay people reading a MSDS will lead to fear and panic, because MSDS documents are written for scientists and specialists who will rely on lots of other context-dependent information to assess hazard, reduce risk of exposure, and decide how to deal with accidental spills. Hazard categories and interventions listed on the MSDS are for direct exposure to large quantities of material, such as might be encountered in chemical manufacturing.

    MSDS are NOT very useful for addressing concerns about  trace amounts. For that we would need to look at toxicity of chronic exposure to small amounts.

    The chemical is volatile. That means is disburses in air very easily and quickly, even without heat. It doesn't like to be in water and will segregate to the surface and evaporate, all by itself over time.

    A top entry in this reddit thread is found here:
    www.reddit.com/r/chemistry/comments/1uunyw/4methylcyclohexane_methanol/

    It derives from this NBC news story comment section
    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/...

    Originally posted by: Eichmann-5916588

    Chemist here, this is being blown way out of proportion and dramatized. Not that uncommon, my inorganic [chemistry] professor used to have us critique stories like this one as part of our normal assignments. So lets have some facts:

    1.    This material is only slightly soluble in water, which means that the concentrations in the water will max out in the 3% range. Directly drinking this water, while still not a good idea, will not result in surface burns or respiratory problems. The concentration and vapors are just. not. there.

    2.    The Rat LD50 on this is 1660 mg/kg. For comparison, the LD50 for table salt is 3,000 mg/kg, and the LD50 of Caffeine is 192 mg/kg. So yea... Don't go around drinking a lot of it, but unless you're seeking it out to eat/drink, you're going to be OK.

    3.    The tanks in the picture have an berm and a dike wall around them. Both would have had to fail for the water to be contaminated, so something else happened. I still haven't heard the quantity released yet, but by the response several thousand gallons (which isn't as much as you think) would have had to breach the containment in order to elicit this type of response.

    4.    The material is lighter than water, so it's going to float on top. Should make cleanup easier & faster and dissolution happen faster, but increase the risk of it moving downstream. The half-life in rivers is estimated at ~4 days, as in gone. Not just dissolved away. Gone through a combination of microbacterial digestion, volatilization, and photoracial based degradation.

    5.    The "Hazards" given are based straight off the MSDS sheet which assumes direct exposure. (eg. splashing the material directly into the eyes or onto the skin, or working with the material at normal handling temperatures: which is why the SDS for water lists a burn potential.) Also, since SDS's are a legal document EVERY known or suspected hazard is on it. In the SDS world it's covering any "alleged significant adverse reaction" reported through TSCA.

    6.    I GUARANTEE you this incident is going to be investigated by OSHA, EPA, NIOSH, and the CSB who will all take this very seriously from an environmental and PHA standpoint. The company will suffer very serious fines for allowing the spill, and given the impact, I would not be at all surprised if they were forced to shut down.
    In the end, it really depends on how much was released, the substance itself isn't that bad. The dose makes the poison, and when dealing with the public it is usually better to overreact than underreact. These I understand.
    (edited for formatting and links)

    My initial assessment is that the authorities are acting on an abundance of caution.

    Residents should follow the guidance given to them. If they already have had accidental brief exposure to small amounts of water contaminated with trace amounts of the chemical, it is probably not going to be an issue but they should contact their physicians/local public health authorities to register their concerns about their own specific exposure.

    Local public health authorities need to be made aware of how many people are affected by this.

    Summary and Disclaimer



    Anyone in the affected areas who is concerned about their own exposure or who is having a medical problem should seek medical advice.

    - This chemical has not new. It has a long history of use in industrial chemical processes. Process chemistry is a specialty at the intersection of chemistry/engineering. I am not a process chemist and do not work in the oil/gas/energy industry. (Please pass the salt. This post is something you read on the internet.) This initial assessment is my personal opinion, and should not be construed as medical advice.

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    by LilithGardener on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 12:45:05 PM PST

  •  my colleagues who know more about coal.... (5+ / 0-)

    say it will affect the water systems coming downstream from the Ohio River soon.  They are somewhat more concerned about it.

    You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad. Aldous Huxley

    by murrayewv on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 12:57:07 PM PST

  •  One aspect I have not seen mentioned. (2+ / 0-)
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    A note about the official guidance. This is about the advice to avoid all human exposure, and use water only for toilet flushing and fires.

    The authorities have wisely dropped demand on public water services to a practical minimum. That was a smart move, both from a public health policy and from an industrial clean up perspective.

    The drop in demand will reduce/prevent extended distribution of contaminated water within the water treatment plant, and within the water distribution system.

    It's quite possible that all of the contaminated intake has been contained/diverted within the treatment facility and has not made it past the plant and into the distribution system.

    "The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.” — William Arthur Ward

    by LilithGardener on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 01:02:02 PM PST

    •  Yeah (3+ / 0-)
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      My wife said she could smell it strongly in the water in Charleston yesterday.

      I can't smell it in my water but I live like 40 miles away so I assume that people not using the water and living up a hollow it hasn't made it to me.

      Tomorrow I'm going to turn the meter off and switch the supply to the house to my well.

      All the eating places are closed around Charleston.

      She says it won't dissolve in water so they are not exactly sure how they are going to get it out of the pipes.

  •  The # of people affected = 16% of WV population (6+ / 0-)

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    by jan4insight on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 01:33:55 PM PST

  •  Good points from the subreddit. (5+ / 0-)

    [quot]
    Here's a pretty decent MSDS for "Crude MCHM": http://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net/...

    This is technically for MCHM still mixed in with what are presumably the other chemicals involved in its industrial synthesis, but it's still 68-89% MCHM, and oftentimes companies purchasing chemicals for industrial use will use unpurified product like this because they're buying tens of thousands of gallons or more and purification is expensive. For all we know, this is actually what was spilled, rather than lab-grade MCHM. And the "Hazard Triangle" ratings in this MSDS (Health - 2, Flammability - 1, Reactivity - 0) are consistent with those shown in the video posted earlier: http://www.wchstv.com/...

    Also, this data sheet has toxicity data for both land animals (rat) and aquatic life, so lacking such details for pure MCHM (which, again, is probably uneconomically pure for this company to have been using in an industrial process), this gives us a decent idea of what we're dealing with.
    [/quot]

    This particular molecule might not be the only thing spilled.

    •  This is a good point (4+ / 0-)
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      The Christian Science Monitor has a nice summary article on the leak and the industrial process.

      http://www.csmonitor.com/...

      This point is why they are "shutting off" the public water supply, and going with an abundance of caution.

      This particular molecule might not be the only thing spilled.
      There is no reason to assume they would use highly pure chemical for this process. But, at the same time, they would not have any incentive to add impurities to their process that are regulated by OSHA, EPA, DEP. That would just create headaches for them elsewhere and when the coal is burned.

      "The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.” — William Arthur Ward

      by LilithGardener on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 01:53:01 PM PST

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  •  Cease and desist operations order just issued to (14+ / 0-)

    Freedom industries with required integrity studies on storage tanks prior to restarting.

      •  they are getting threats.... (5+ / 0-)

        and Freedom Industry is now getting police protection.  There were altercations over water at a local Walmart as well.

        You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad. Aldous Huxley

        by murrayewv on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 03:10:49 PM PST

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        •  just watched official from Freedom Industries (6+ / 0-)

          Give a press conference.  It wasn't good.  Definitely a small company with no media training.  Said some unfortunate things such as it being a long day for him- not met well with the reporters.  Appears to be not much info on how much or why the failure.

          •  Problem is.... (2+ / 0-)
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            Back In Blue, murrayewv

            They did not do this, it was done TO them, they were sittin there minding their own business drawing water from the Elk River like they always do, and some assholes upstream from them dumped chemicals in the river.

            This looks like more of an issue for the company that owns the tanks and a problem with the regulation of industry, like in so many states that are either Rethug-governed or Rethug-leaning....

            Sorta like allowing some assholes to stack up tons on ammonium nitrate a few blocks away from a small town....What could go wrong?

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            by leftykook on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 04:08:01 PM PST

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            •  Freedom Industries is (7+ / 0-)

              the company that owns the tank farm and trans-loading facility where the spill occurred.  They are a tiny privately held company which is almost certainly out of business and without the resources to make whole the problem they caused.  The problem they caused should not have been allowed to exist in its potential, but that is an over-arching problem.  This is pretty similar to the Lac-Magantic issue, IMO.

              American Water Company is a huge multi-state corporation which initially denied that there was a problem, even after learning the compound involved, claiming 'our carbon filtration will handle it.'  The former Penzoil tank farm at issue has been there (just a fraction of a mile upstream of the intake) for decades, and actively handles loading and offloading of barges with an obvious spill potential, WV-American was certainly aware of it, and should have taken prudent steps to protect customers.  

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              by benamery21 on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 04:24:22 PM PST

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              •  they just merged 2 weeks ago.... (1+ / 0-)
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                with three companies.  link

                On the last day of 2013, Freedom Industries, which distributes chemicals used in coal mining, merged with three other companies: Etowah River Terminal, Poca Blending and Crete Technologies, a Delaware company.

                Poca Blending, in Nitro, and Etowah River Terminal, in Charleston, now comprise the two branches of Freedom Industries.

                The company's website says the Charleston branch, which spilled the chemical, "can process large volumes of chemical rapidly, and cost effectively."

                Smells from the spill were reported early Thursday morning, but Freedom mostly stonewalled media inquiries -- releasing only a bland news release through a public relations firm -- until a 10-minute news conference Friday evening.

                At the news conference, Freedom Industries President Gary Southern gave few details about the company, made several statements seemingly in conflict with what government officials have said, and was whisked away by a public relations handler with reporters still shouting questions.

                From press conference.

                You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad. Aldous Huxley

                by murrayewv on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 06:30:12 PM PST

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              •  I agree about the water intake.... (1+ / 0-)
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                LilithGardener

                it reminds me also of West Texas.  Less permanent damage, but lots of people affected.

                You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad. Aldous Huxley

                by murrayewv on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 09:04:15 PM PST

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  •  WV voted solidly for Romney (4+ / 0-)

    …an endorsement of weak government regulation and corporate freedom at the expense of everyone else.

    Those who vote Republican are subscribing to this kind of misery. The fact that the company involved in named, "Freedom Industries" is entirely apropos.

    •  A Faustian bargain (1+ / 0-)
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      murrayewv

      many in West Virginia are well aware of the hazards of business as usual, but see crushing poverty as its alternative.  They have developed a siege mentality with regard to the industries on which they believe their livelihood depends.
       

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      by benamery21 on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 04:38:15 PM PST

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      •  No, that's what they WANT (3+ / 0-)

        I personally know West Virginians, and they are adamantly opposed to government regulation as a matter of principle.

        But, they'll request and get federal bailout money anyway.

        •  My uncle's name is Lilly (5+ / 0-)

          My father grew up in the state, I know plenty of WV natives.  While there is certainly a strong strain of 'mind your own damn business, and leave me the hell alone' the extension of those principles to large predatory corporations is well cultivated by those interests.  Getting a West Virginian to bad-mouth big business, coal companies, and polluters is not usually difficult.  If they see alliance with those interests as the lesser of two evils, and thence begin to identify those interests as in-group, that is a slightly different matter.  

          There's no reason we should question federal relief in this case, there is plenty of unregulated stupidity in all states which increases our risk profile.  Coastal dwellings in blue states, or forest homes in western states, for example.

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          by benamery21 on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 05:07:17 PM PST

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          •  What I hear is far different (1+ / 0-)
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            pitbullgirl65

            …typical Republican opposition to government assistance and regulation, and typically accompanied by nasty assumptions about the kind of people who take government help.

            Of course, the federal government will help WV. It's the law. But, Democrats need to point out how it would be for WV if all the rest of American embraced their politics.

            •  Pressing an uncomfortable point (3+ / 0-)

              isn't necessarily the best way to gain allies.

              Give WV everything they want and need, do a good job on executing the response, let some idiot RW nuts in the House ask for pay-fors, and then let the local Dems who have their mouths set right to talk to WV folks capitalize on the situation between now and November.

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              by benamery21 on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 05:26:46 PM PST

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              •  You're thinking like a Democrat (0+ / 0-)

                …not like a Republican. You expect them to see the obvious and, as most of us know, that doesn't happen without a lot of external effort to educate them…and maybe not even then.

                Republicans, you can be sure, are already developing a spin to absolve themselves of responsibility. Without a progressive response, most voters will buy the propaganda.

          •  >50% of WV..... (2+ / 0-)
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            is owned by out of state industry.  The folks are realistic in realizing coal is important to the economy, but seem powerless to get the out of state coal companies to do much for retraining folks.

            Culturally, miners were heroes of the industrial revolution, braving their lives to bring energy and electricity and heat to the nation.  Now that we know coal is so bad for our health, they are somehow blamed for mining coal.  It is complex, national and international demands that drive this industry.  The individual miners are still working hard to "keep the lights on" and kind of resent you folks using their power to blog about how bad their work is.

            If we want alternative energy, we should also come up with retraining for displaced energy workers.  We did when Bush I worked to end acid rain with cleaner power plants, which affected the industry.

            You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad. Aldous Huxley

            by murrayewv on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 06:36:33 PM PST

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            •  a song nominated for a grammy.... (2+ / 0-)
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              benamery21, Grainpaw

              about modern coal miners called "Keep your dirty lights on."

              For perspective.

              You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad. Aldous Huxley

              by murrayewv on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 07:34:55 PM PST

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              •  I work for the power company, thanks (2+ / 0-)
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                murrayewv, LilithGardener

                I'll be sharing that.    Miners are still heroes to me, companies never were.  I have an anthracite coal miner on my bureau.  Power to the people and keeping the lights on have an even greater resonance when you mean it literally.

                As an engineer I'm very aware of the tension between different progressive objectives.  You can't optimize for all variables simultaneously.  

                Take it as read that I think providing opportunity for all, including those disadvantaged by economic transitions caused by 'the genius of capitalism' and/or intelligent regulation, is a basic part of the progressive platform that has been given little more than lip service by the corporate wing of the party.

                P.S. The majority of SOx scrubbers have been installed in just the past decade due to the stockpile of cap and trade credits created by switching to low sulfur PRB coal.

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                by benamery21 on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 08:09:23 PM PST

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                •  it is tough..... (1+ / 0-)
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                  LilithGardener

                  When I moved to WV 1 years ago, everyone knew we had 2-25 years of mining.  Then they went to mountaintop removal, and that was worse for the environment and hired fewer workers.  Every downturn in the economy that reduces manufacturing reduces energy and coal use and hits the miners, not the mine owners.  they just leave the coal in the ground  and then fire the miners and cut their pensions and health care.  I teach science at university, so my students usually are coming from rural areas and hoping to get good jobs.  I have a good track record with students going to grad/medical school, starting companies to hire other students, getting students the career they want.  But the state keeps cutting budgets, not giving folks raises.  And it is harder to do the job I want to do to transform the economy without some federal help, which is nowhere in sight.  The place has real drug problems, but most of my students steer clear.  Last year I lost one to an overdose and it broke my heart.  He was so smart, and I had no idea.  

                  So like many, I support an end to carbon burning.  But I think we need to help the folks doing the work of mining.

                  You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad. Aldous Huxley

                  by murrayewv on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 08:55:15 PM PST

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            •  I NEVER said that! (0+ / 0-)

              You wrote:

              The individual miners are still working hard to "keep the lights on" and kind of resent you folks using their power to blog about how bad their work is.
              I said NOTHING about the work of coal miners. I certainly never made any remark about "how bad their work is." How dare you put words in my mouth!
            •  ^^^ this (1+ / 0-)
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              It is complex, national and international demands that drive this industry.  The individual miners are still working hard to "keep the lights on" and kind of resent you folks using their power to blog about how bad their work is.

              If we want alternative energy, we should also come up with retraining for displaced energy workers.  We did when Bush I worked to end acid rain with cleaner power plants, which affected the industry.

              Resentment against the people of WV is a lighter shade of the Christie thug who said, "Those are the children of Buono voters." I agree with you that we will not make any in roads unless/until we can find a way to listen to our better angels an ignore the others.

              "The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.” — William Arthur Ward

              by LilithGardener on Sat Jan 11, 2014 at 09:56:22 AM PST

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          •  No one questioned sending relief (1+ / 0-)
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            I simply pointed out the hypocrisy in Republican political rhetoric and policies.

            Pointing out the flaws in Republican policies is what Daily Kos does. .

            Next time, try responding to what I've actually said instead of putting words in my mouth.

        •  I'm from WV (6+ / 0-)

          I don't think your statement is entirely accurate.

          WV'ians want to personally be left alone but are not against gov't jobs or protection.

          However in recent years the Democratic party has not really done much for working people, esp poor working people so with no alternative jobs people are wary of govt regs removing what jobs they have.

          Used to be nobody would go against a coal company but now with mountaintop removal where millions of dollars of coal are removed but with only a few people you see more natives opposing mountaintop removal.

          So there's sort of an economic cost benefit  thing going on in their minds.

          •  I miss Byrd and earmarks.... (4+ / 0-)

            seriously.  Not kidding.  Spending money bringing stuff to WV has been positive for the state- hospitals, university buildings, research labs, FBI center, Bureau of the Debt.  WV doesn't have a major military bases like VA, MD, NC or KY.

            You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad. Aldous Huxley

            by murrayewv on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 06:39:02 PM PST

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          •  And the GOP is so pro working class (1+ / 0-)
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            However in recent years the Democratic party has not really done much for working people, esp poor working people so with no alternative jobs people are wary of govt regs removing what jobs they have.
            I agree the Democratic party has been weak at best with working poor, but voting GOP?  And they've fallen for the GOP talking points about the evil government and its' pesky regulations.

            Of course we're talking about the same people who voted for a Texas inmate over President Obama.

            How's that poison water working out for you W.V. GOP voters?
            Inmate gets 41% over Obama.
             

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            by pitbullgirl65 on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 07:57:18 PM PST

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          •  I don't think they do "cost benefit" (0+ / 0-)

            analysis. I think they do what Fox News tells them to do. The grip that Fox has on their thinking is frightening to witness.

  •  So far not many people hospitalized, but reports (1+ / 0-)
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    of people experiencing symptoms number in the hundreds with more coming in, according to WV poison control center.

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    by jan4insight on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 06:57:33 PM PST

  •  This is a big karmic slap in the face (3+ / 0-)

    for Senator Joe Manchin, who has made a career out of saving WV from the EPA, and for all the pro-extraction, anti-regulation politicians in state government. It's finally big enough that they can't sweep it under the rug. West Virginians victimized by mining and Marcellus Shale drilling have been crying for help for years, and ignored by bought politicians.
    In my own rural neighborhood, we have been subjected to an industrial strength skunk smell (mercaptan) (depending on wind direction) from leakage from a gas dryer installation on a Marcellus pipeline which is being pushed beyond the capacity of the dryer. This has been going on since Nov. 19. My wife and I, neighbors, and animals are having various medical symptoms from methane poisoning. The state Dept. of Environmental Protection (AKA Dept. of Easy Permits) has finally been stirred into visiting a couple times, but has no test instruments other than noses. Just when we felt we were getting somewhere with a man in the EPA Criminal Division in Charleston, he is busy with this chemical spill. Things much worse than this happen across the state daily. In a newspaper article a week ago, WV House Speaker Tim Miley stated that he did not anticipate or desire any restrictions on the gas drilling industry in the current legislative session. And I'm sure you've all heard of mountaintop removal coal mining. Communities and lives, air and water are being destroyed daily in the name of short-term profit and long-term desolation.
    A MoveOn petition started circulating just two days ago The originator sent an email today asking us to call or email Governor Tomblin's office to say, "No more!" I'll copy that into another post. You can read comments from the petition signers. Thanks for your time and attention.

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    by Grainpaw on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 07:54:37 PM PST

    •  Call request and petition link (2+ / 0-)
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      OldDragon, LilithGardener

      Wow!! Thanks to YOU this petition has 180 signatures in just 48 hours!

      Given the horrible news today coming on the heals of Governor Tomblin's now famous "Garden State of the State" that 9 WV counties can not drink, bathe or cook with their water following a catastrophic chemical spill in the Elk River, NOW would be a great time to pick up the phone and/or send Earl Ray a strongly worded letter or e-mail that West Virginia has had enough!

      Can I count on you to contact Gov. Earl Ray Tomblin and demand that he take immediate action to empower the WV DEP to do the job of protecting West Virginia's environment?  Tell him we will no longer stand idly by as the state we love and call home is sacrificed in the name of fossil fuel extraction. We deserve better and demand that he does better.

      http://www.governor.wv.gov/...

      Thanks for all you have done and continue to do to let our leaders know this is OUR West Virginia. Even if you don't live here, what happens in WV clearly has impacts on our neighbors up wind and down stream.

      Can I also ask you to please continue sharing this petition via e-mail, twitter, blogs and social media?

      http://petitions.moveon.org/... .cr&r_by=4440446

      Peace as we Rise Up,

      Jody

       

      The man who worries morning and night about the dandelions in the lawn will find great relief in learning to love the dandelions. Liberty Hyde Bailey, 1910

      by Grainpaw on Fri Jan 10, 2014 at 07:57:20 PM PST

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