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One thing Republicans might want to consider about blocking emergency unemployment insurance—aside from that it's heartless and economically damaging—is that it hits their voters, too. There are plenty of people who've been jobless for six months or more in Republican areas, and plenty of Republican voters who find themselves in that predicament. In fact, the AP's Nicholas Riccardi notes, "Economists generally say the longer-term unemployed tend to be older—a slice of the population that has become more supportive of Republicans in recent elections."

Republicans are trying to blame Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid for somehow causing them to block the unemployment aid extension. But if they're counting on voters to fall for that, they might want to rethink:

The standoff infuriates people such as Lita Ness, who lost her job as a civilian contractor at Peterson Air Force Base in August 2012 and just received her final check from the unemployment office.

"I'm registered as a Republican, but if they continue to use this not extending our (aid) I'm probably changing to Democrat," Ness, 58, said as she took a break from a computer training class at the Pikes Peak Workforce Center. "People in our district who vote `No' on this, I'm not going to support them."

The thing is, someone who is losing the money they count on to eat and pay the rent doesn't give a damn about whether Harry Reid is allowing dozens of amendments to a simple unemployment aid extension. They just need it extended, and the question that counts is who votes yes, who votes no, and who stands in the way of a vote happening at all. Similarly, someone who's sending out job application after job application, dealing with rejection on a daily basis, probably notices and takes offense when politicians—their elected representatives, even—talk about jobless people as lazy, unmotivated moochers. And the people noticing these things do include Republicans in Republican districts. Even if their representatives stopped caring about them when they lost their jobs.

Sign and send a petition to your Republican senator or senators, demanding that they restore benefits to the Emergency Unemployment Compensation program.

Originally posted to Daily Kos Labor on Tue Jan 14, 2014 at 07:15 AM PST.

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  •  Unfortunately, the idiots are looking in the (3+ / 0-)
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    shoeless, IndieGuy, politicalceci

    mirror saying "Good enough for ya!"

    Ted Cruz president? Pardon my Vietnamese, but Ngo Pho King Way.

    by ZedMont on Tue Jan 14, 2014 at 07:17:20 AM PST

  •  As long as 'those people' get screwed, R voters (17+ / 0-)

    really, really don't care. They'd happily sink the boat they're on and drown themselves, their families, and everything they love as long as it takes some of Those People with them. They've proven this mindset over and over the past decade or so, and it's only gotten worse - and this is what the Republican politicians know and plan on.

    "You don't know me, but I'm your brother - I was raised here in this living Hell. You don't know my kind in your world - fairly soon, the time will tell." - Doobies

    by Fordmandalay on Tue Jan 14, 2014 at 07:21:04 AM PST

    •  It Was the Basis of the Southern Strategy (10+ / 0-)

      pioneered not by Reagan or Nixon but by Goldwater in 64.

      It goes back that far.

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Tue Jan 14, 2014 at 07:43:56 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  Specifically, it goes back to Goldwater (1+ / 0-)
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        hiring Harry Dent, Sr., who was previously Strom Thurmond's political strategist. Lee Atwater, Reagan's strategist, credited Dent with inventing the Southern Strategy, and working out how to Dog Whistle it so that the South knew what the appeal was, but the North could overlook it.

        Rockefeller Republican and sports hero Jackie Robinson wasn't fooled, and publicly called Goldwater out on it. Goldwater got clobbered, though not primarily for that reason, and Dent went on to work for Nixon.

        Ceterem censeo, gerrymandra delenda est

        by Mokurai on Tue Jan 14, 2014 at 09:45:26 AM PST

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        •  At least Goldwater repented later. (1+ / 0-)
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          Be Skeptical

          And I do not believe he really had conservative principles for "racist" reasons; they were just his principles and he felt that the Constitution did not countenance solving civil rights problems, even those he considered real problems, by federal legislation.  The fact that many others did NOT want those problems solved, and so repeated his basic principles as an EXCUSE not to solve them, was for him simply a "happy coincidence" that he hoped would put him in the White House.  Years later, when he saw the monster he had helped create, he condemned the newer crop of "conservatives" (in the 1990's) as only crooks with no scruples at all.  And he said that he was happy the Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act eventually led to what he had hoped would happen without them, the full participation in American life of non-poor black people.

          I wouldn't give him a complete pass, but compared to the 1990s crowd, he looked like an angel.  And compared to the Ted Cruz crowd today, THEY look like angels.

          Full disclosure: as a high school junior in 1964, way too young to vote, I toyed with the conservative ideology, but in college I learned about its flip side.  My first vote for President was in 1972 against Nixon (I was only 20 when he ran the first time, and the voting age was still 21 ... until the next year!).

    •  I wish I could believe.... (9+ / 0-)

      that impacted GOP voters would begin to realize how badly GOP policies screw them, but they don't.

      My brother, working in a minimum wage job position with no raises and no benefits is rabid GOP and so are many of his friends....all of them lower middle class and being raped in the process.

      Part of it, quite frankly, is racism, much as I hate to say it....and part of it is having been bombarded with right wing propaganda so long they can't separate fact from fiction.

      The greatest gift this country could bestow upon itself would be a restoration of the fairness doctrine in broadcasting.

      Free markets would be a great idea, if markets were actually free.

      by dweb8231 on Tue Jan 14, 2014 at 08:05:09 AM PST

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      •  SO what alternative (2+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        Josiah Bartlett, politicalceci

        are we offering that they can see have any real value?

        •  Those who grew up in the bubble (1+ / 0-)
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          and adopted it as their defense against everything cannot generally be reached. But their children can, because the parents can no longer maintain the bubble intact in the age of cable TV and the Internet.

          Ceterem censeo, gerrymandra delenda est

          by Mokurai on Tue Jan 14, 2014 at 09:47:47 AM PST

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          •  Yes! (2+ / 0-)
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            Kentucky DeanDemocrat, emyrphe

            And I am the perfect example of that.  I came of age in the recession of the 70s.  Already blue color workers like my family were starting to suffer.  I had no resources for college and could not buy a job.  

            Along came the ‘prosperity’ of the 80s and it only got worse.    After one term of Reagan I went from GOP to a socialist.

            I do give my family credit that they eventually also moved back to the left leaning their of their early lives and I am proud to say that my 92 year old mother voted in her first election for FDR and her last for Barack Obama.

        •  The alternatives we offer..... (0+ / 0-)

          ..... include, but are not limited to:

               a living minimum wage;

               the restored right to organize in a meaningful and empowering way;

               re-adjustment of our trade policies so our workers
               are able to support themselves on the terms OUR nation
               (NOT China or Bangladesh) and its economy demand;

               a full commitment to full employment (read: ZERO
               unemployment and ZERO underemployment);

               a public education system which creates high school
               graduates who are fully equipped and qualified for
               job positions which will enable any single one of them
               to exchange no more than 40 hours of work per week
               for a paycheck sufficient to support a family;


          This is the only way I can conceive of that we're going to have social order in the future. We need to become what we once were and are no more: "The Land Of Opportunity" -- and that means for the non-rich.

          Keep your Powder Dry and your Data Local!

          by thanatokephaloides on Wed Jan 15, 2014 at 04:02:52 PM PST

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    •  That's precisely how Lee Atwater (0+ / 0-)

      Reagan's political strategist, explained the Southern Strategy that they were extending into the North by whipping up racism and entitlement among blue-collar Reagan Democrats.

      It's OK as long as Blacks get hurt worse.

      Ceterem censeo, gerrymandra delenda est

      by Mokurai on Tue Jan 14, 2014 at 09:39:39 AM PST

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    •  true, (0+ / 0-)

      I couldn't have said it better myself. These people are used to voting against themselves,and I honestly believe most of them know they're stupid,but if it hurts those other people,it's OK.

  •  They don't care if their voters are also punished; (10+ / 0-)

    Their goal is total domination. They have the RWMSM lie & blame the Dems.

    nosotros no somos estúpidos

    by a2nite on Tue Jan 14, 2014 at 07:24:18 AM PST

  •  Still a bit hard to feel sorry for (13+ / 0-)

    People who vote for Republicans then finally wake up when they get victimized by themselves.

    Republicans: Taking the country back ... to the 19th century

    by yet another liberal on Tue Jan 14, 2014 at 07:29:13 AM PST

    •  Its even more difficult to feel sorry for (10+ / 0-)

      people who vote for Republicans but do not wake up when they get victimized themselves.

      Jesus loves Republicans, and shares their hatred of homosexuals and Hilliary Clinton.

      by shoeless on Tue Jan 14, 2014 at 07:42:56 AM PST

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    •  A century ago, Walter Lippmann wrote (2+ / 0-)
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      Amber6541, Mokurai

      A Preface to Politics. In it, there is a passage I frequently quote:

      "Nor can the person who reads one corrupt newspaper and then goes out to vote make any claim to having registered his will. He may have a will, but he has not used it."
      Yes, the Republican Party has more than its share of fearful, spiteful, and meanspirited people. But we should not only ask ourselves how they got that way, we should think about all those who are merely misguided. They have been lied to all thei lives (for "corrupt newspaper", read FOX News or ignorant/racist relatives). Many of us here could have been among them, if born into different circumstances. In fact, from what I have read on this site, a sizable minority of us were among them at one time, before seeing the light.

      I'm just saying, it's not that hard to find room for pity for those too easily duped. It is the con artists running the scam I primarily blame, not their marks.

      My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right.
      --Carl Schurz, remarks in the Senate, February 29, 1872

      by leftist vegetarian patriot on Tue Jan 14, 2014 at 08:41:30 AM PST

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    •  I have no trouble feeling sorry for them (2+ / 0-)

      Everybody in this World of Sin and Sorrow, as Christians call it, or Delusion and Suffering, per Buddhism, has to come to grips with this fundamental problem. It is equally hard on everybody, to begin with. But it is hardest on those who choose to, or are taught relentlessly to cope with suffering by attempting to shuffle it all off on somebody else, and with karma by pretending that it doesn't apply to them. They put themselves into the deepest Hell, where they have none for companions but those like them, and they can't understand how it all went so horribly wrong.

      Oscar Wilde, in the depths of his despair, put it thus in The Ballad of Reading Gaol [read Redding Jail]

      Each man kills the thing he loves.
      By each let this be heard.
      The coward does it with a kiss,
      The brave man with a sword!
      As George Orwell put it in 1984, O'Brien knows that Winston Smith has definitively cracked when he screams
      No! No!! Do it to Julia!

      Ceterem censeo, gerrymandra delenda est

      by Mokurai on Tue Jan 14, 2014 at 10:00:29 AM PST

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  •  Gotta break a few eggs to make a mess. (2+ / 0-)
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  •  Did you notice the glaring... (5+ / 0-)

    ...false equivalence in this story?

    Democrats crunched data to reach a conclusion

    Conservative Heritage stooge pulls dogma out of his ass.

    Both are treated as equally valid by the author.


  •  Right now.... (10+ / 0-)

    I'm playing the world's smallest violin for people who voted republican and are now getting screwed on unemployment insurance.
    It's been pretty clear for a long time where the republican party stands on this issue. Sounds like very maladaptive behavior on the part of these voters.

    Just another day in Oceania.

    by drshatterhand on Tue Jan 14, 2014 at 07:35:08 AM PST

    •  yeah, but ... (2+ / 0-)
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      Tea Party Necropsy, METAL TREK

      they didn't expect to join the ranks of "those moochers" when they voted for the Rs. I know it's a huge failure of the imagination on their part.

      But we're guilty of a similar lack of empathy when we fail to cut them some slack after they see the light.


      "Let us not look back to the past with anger, nor towards the future with fear, but look around with awareness." James Thurber

      by annan on Tue Jan 14, 2014 at 07:47:14 AM PST

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      •  I don't agree (0+ / 0-)

        There's no indication that these Rs who want their employment insurance have seen any "light" at all.  They just want theirs.  They always did.  They haven't changed at all.  Now, if one of these Rs who's crying over the end of his unemployment benefits suddenly connects the vicious philosophy that's now costing him personally to other people's loss of food stamps, THAT would be seeing "light."

        "If there are no dogs in heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." - Will Rogers

        by Kentucky DeanDemocrat on Tue Jan 14, 2014 at 11:38:03 AM PST

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  •  One problem with republicans, (23+ / 0-)

    like Lita Ness cited in the diary is that they seem completely unable to understand this as a problem until they personally are affected.  

    "Remember, Republican economic policies quadrupled the debt before I took office and doubled it after I left. We simply can't afford to double-down on trickle-down." Bill Clinton

    by irate on Tue Jan 14, 2014 at 07:37:45 AM PST

  •  John Boehner always says , , , (2+ / 0-)
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    annan, Amber6541

    Republicans listen to the American people.

    How many times have we seen him and the rest of the Republicans use that phrase? Looks like they lied again since the polls show people want unemployment benefits restored.

    •  Just because they are listening... (0+ / 0-)

      doesn't mean they are going to do what they are being asked to do.

      They are the daddy party and will not give in when the children want more ice cream.

      (Also the A**hole party but that's not "G" rated.)

      The republicons moan, the republicons bitch. Our rich are too poor and our poor are too rich. Ferguson Foont

      by Josiah Bartlett on Tue Jan 14, 2014 at 09:41:41 AM PST

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    •  That is a version of the No True Scotsman fallacy (2+ / 0-)
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      BlueSue, a2nite

      much practiced in the old Soviet Union, where the constitution guaranteed the Soviet people freedom of speech, but anybody who tried to use it was automatically an Enemy of the People, and thus not covered.

      No Real American could possibly believe what the Democrats profess, and the Republicans only listen to those they define to be Real Americans. Republicans lie, cheat, steal, bloviate, propagandize, and demagogue. How can they believe that Democrats are doing anything different?

      But at the same time, many Republicans believe the nonsense. How can they believe, then, that Democrats are doing anything different?

      But Progressives who apply themselves to living and working in a fact-based and also empathy-based world can see the differences.

      It gets head-hurting when you get past the third level of what we believe that they believe that we believe, but with practice it all starts to make sense.

      Ceterem censeo, gerrymandra delenda est

      by Mokurai on Tue Jan 14, 2014 at 10:28:48 AM PST

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  •  I just made the mistake of reading the comments in (12+ / 0-)

    Eugene Robinson's piece today and this is one of the comments I came across:  

    Where is Democrat outrage over their creation of unemployed millions through job-killing socialist policies ? Why aren't Democrats outraged over perpetuating the this non-recovery - going for FDR's record of 17 years? As far as the GOP goes, how many poor/unemployed vote for them? Why then should the GOP give them their money? Let the Democrats give them their money. Democrats want the votes, Democrats pay for them.
    To which another commenter replied something to the effect of:
    "Fine, you'll be getting a bill for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan next week".
    which misses the point entirely but was still a pretty good rejoinder.

    Conservatives seem to believe that the rich will work harder if we give them more, and the poor will work harder if we give them less. E.J. Dionne

    by blueyescryinintherain on Tue Jan 14, 2014 at 07:45:55 AM PST

  •  "I'm probably changing to Democrat" (15+ / 0-)

    Better late than never I suppose, but I have to say that it kinda pisses me off that people don't vote D until they are personally affected by right wing policy.

    Fucking over OTHER people is fine and dandy, but god forbid your own ideology actually has an impact on you and your own family.

    "Give to every other human being every right that you claim for yourself." - Robert G. Ingersoll

    by Apost8 on Tue Jan 14, 2014 at 07:46:45 AM PST

  •  I think Lita Ness is in a minority of Republicans. (13+ / 0-)

    The Republicans I know would vote for the very Republicans who denied them unemployment compensation.

    Jesus loves Republicans, and shares their hatred of homosexuals and Hilliary Clinton.

    by shoeless on Tue Jan 14, 2014 at 07:47:32 AM PST

  •  In those areas that vote heavily Republican, (5+ / 0-)

    their news sources blame Democrats for the failure of the extension. It's up to us to make sure the truth reaches those unemployed voters.

    Peace is not merely a distant goal that we seek, but a means by which we arrive at that goal. - Martin Luther King, Jr.

    by Gentle Giant on Tue Jan 14, 2014 at 07:53:16 AM PST

  •  That's what I don't understand. (4+ / 0-)

    It wasn't just Democrats who lost their jobs over the last seven years.

    Why do they think they are only going to hurt Democratic voters?

    Or do they just think voters are all so stupid that they will blame the Democrats for not voting for every stupid little poison pill amendment to this thing?

    It's kind of like the way so many used to believe that millions of people all suddenly lost their skills at the same time back in 2008, and so they needed to be fired. Is it starting to dawn on these folks the same way that they aren't special flowers just because they are Republicans?

    Maybe a little misery has concentrated the thoughts of a few more people who are finally realizing just who their tormentors are.

    "The difference between the right word and the almost-right word is like the difference between lightning and the lightning bug." -- Mark Twain

    by Brooke In Seattle on Tue Jan 14, 2014 at 07:57:07 AM PST

  •  Demographics on longtime unemployed? (1+ / 0-)
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    Ages? States and Counties? Previous industry of employment?

    I don't think I have seen any breakdown other than unemployment rates.

    Does anyone know what is out there?

  •  This needs to be made specific and personal (2+ / 0-)
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    BriarRose, Amber6541

    We have all sorts of information available on this blog about political districts and their representatives, lots of arcane number-crunching about polling and voter behavior over years, there HAS to be a source of data that can give us a Congressional District-focused list of the numbers of unemployed persons in each district in every state, and such info ought to be a tool we can use via social media to bypass the blackout enforced by right wing media.

    There's GOT to be a ton of unemployed people in districts represented by Teahadi morons, between Thuggish intransigence over UI extension and Sequester-generated cuts to jobs related to the Defense Department in these places, I can't believe that a few districts can't be pried outta the R column....

    "Ronald Reagan is DEAD! His policies live on but we're doing something about THAT!"

    by leftykook on Tue Jan 14, 2014 at 08:13:44 AM PST

  •  There is some funny math in unemploment figures (1+ / 0-)
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    JJ In Illinois

    There are so many sites on the Internet that profess to know what the "true" unemployment number is it is hard to actually determine the truth.  The Bureau of Labor Statistics gives us a government number but it leaves out many that probably could or should be included.  

    If I understand what is being said on this site, the actual people unemployed in America is somewhere around 20 mil vs the 10 mil the BLS is putting out.  It give convincing logic and the data they are citing for their reasoning is backed up by the BLS site.  

    Is the unemployment figure really above 13%?  I don't know.  I think it is above 6.7% though.  

    Something has to be done about the chronic unemployed people besides just extending continued benefits to them.  There are solutions to this problem and I think both sides are remiss in finding them.  Just throwing money as a problem has never been a good long term solution.  

    •  Look up U3, U4, U5, and U6 (2+ / 0-)
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      saucer1234, Joe Bob

      There are different definitions of unemployed. Should someone who is working 20 hours a week at a part-time minimum-wage job be counted, when they used to have a good paying full-time job, and haven't been able to find one like it since the great recession hit? Does it matter if they are still looking? Here are the BLS definitions:

      Alternative measures of labor underutilization

      There's a better explanation and a state-by-state breakdown on this page:

      Alternative Measures of Labor Underutilization for States, Fourth Quarter of 2012 through Third Quarter of 2013 Averages

      It always used to bother me that Republicans would not recognize anything other than the official U3 employment rate, even when it didn't include some people who were struggling and really needed help. For years, Democrats tried to raise this point, but the Rs would never acknowledge it.

      Then, a black guy got elected president and suddenly Republicans discovered that the "real" rate of unemployment was the U5 or U6 number.

      I think the important thing is to compare apples to apples when looking at trends (comparing U3 today to U3 before the recession, although changes in the participation rate and demographics complicate the picture), and to work for policies that improve conditions for everyone, whether or not they are included in the official unemployment rate.

      We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly.

      by dconrad on Tue Jan 14, 2014 at 09:37:15 AM PST

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  •  Only exception to the rule (1+ / 0-)
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    The rule: Don't interrupt your enemy, while they are making a mistake

    It is time for Ds to higlight what Rs think of the unemployed & then vot to extend

  •  Party of Stupid & Offensive Voters (1+ / 0-)
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    Kentucky DeanDemocrat

    only need to see an "R" on the ballot to know who to elect -- candidates, their beliefs and values, and the issues have no bearing on their kneejerk reactionary bigotry.  Straight Party Stupid is the way they vote.

    The filthy rich, psychopathic GREEDmongering billionaire and millionaire oligarchs whose development was arrested at age 2 will always vote "R" -- they want to pay no taxes and have no government bridling their insatiable GREED and Selfishness.

    The right-wing programmable idiots who are John Birchers, secessionists, NeoNazis, teabaggers, and Ku Klux Kristians will always vote "R" too, a fact that the filthy rich conservative oligarchs can bank on reliably -- they will blindly, obediently, and unquestioningly vote against their own interests and those of 99% of the people because their authoritarian brain is so defective and dysfunctional.  You can't fix Stupid.*

    *SEE 2011 brain scan studies -- Conservatives use their emotional brains (amygdala) to process information resulting in a disdain of Facts and TRUTH and a tendency to be bigotted and stupid and they have poorly developed or non-existent temporoparietal junctions making empathy and even symapthy impossible.  Liberals use their logical, reasoning, rational brains (anterior cingulate cortexes) to process information resulting in respect for Facts and TRUTH and the tendency to be intellectually curious and intelligent and they have a well developed temporoparietal junction enabling them to easily sympathize and empathize with others.

  •  The thing of it is... (1+ / 0-)
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    Kentucky DeanDemocrat

    The party relies on their voters' stupidity and blind hatred for Obama, which makes it easier for the party to manipulate them into voting against their own interests.

    •  It started with hatred for Blacks (0+ / 0-)

      in slavery and Jim Crow. It expanded to other minorities, women, LGBTs, workers (especially in unions), and more. Nowadays it has become hatred for everybody, including each other. The Tea Parties, the Religious Right, the Military-Industrial Complex, and the Country Club/Wall Street/1% crowd in part overlap and in part despise each other. They have lost the ability to cooperate in national political campaigns while being quite effective so far in maintaining their power regionally in the South and the extended Bible Belt.

      Ceterem censeo, gerrymandra delenda est

      by Mokurai on Tue Jan 14, 2014 at 10:40:50 AM PST

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  •  Psstt, Congress.. people want jobs (2+ / 0-)
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    a2nite, Ranger1

    Yes, I would like to see unemployment insurance extended for a while until the economy gets better.

    But.. people really want jobs.

    Neither Congress - both parties - nor the President seems to much care about doing anything to bring back private sector jobs to America.

    Unemployment insurance is a band aid.. let's concentrate on the underlying problem - the bleeding of jobs to other countries that took place over the last 30 years.

    Where are the programs to build emerging industries?  Robotics?  Automation?

    Where are the tax policies to entice manufacturing and assembly line jobs back to American soil?

    •  You know where they are... (1+ / 0-)
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      ``Where are the tax policies to entice manufacturing and assembly line jobs back to American soil?''

      They're being used as a placemat on the desk of some Republican committee chairman. Democrats passed those changes to the tax code before 2010 and the Rethuglicans in the Senate filibustered them. That's why we've got to bust our collective hump to retake the House. And keep the Senate.

    •  See the Congressional Progressive Caucus (0+ / 0-)

      Back to Work budget. The only reason you don't hear more about it is that Republicans control the House and can still filibuster legislation in the Senate.

      We know of remedies for both of those conditions.

      Ceterem censeo, gerrymandra delenda est

      by Mokurai on Tue Jan 14, 2014 at 10:42:36 AM PST

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      •  Those are government-provided jobs (0+ / 0-)

        which could temporarily help during a transition period.  But they are not a permanent solution.

        We need millions of private sector jobs.

        •  It's called "priming the pump"* (0+ / 0-)

          Put people to work and they'll buy and grow the economy and put more people to work.

          * - FDR

          "If there are no dogs in heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." - Will Rogers

          by Kentucky DeanDemocrat on Tue Jan 14, 2014 at 11:44:22 AM PST

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          •  Not in a global economy (0+ / 0-)
            Put people to work and they'll buy and grow the economy and put more people to work.
            That was fine in a closed economy back in the FDR days.  What was spent here, stayed here.

            But now, all those salaries will go to buy stuff made in other countries.  If you want to prime South Korea's economy, that would do it.  But without the manufacturing infrastructure here in the US, it would do next to nothing to the American economy.

            Retail might kick up for a while.  But as soon as those temporary jobs go away, so does the stimulus to the private sector.

            Nope.. the answer is more private sector jobs along with those temporary infrastructure jobs.

        •  We need millions more government jobs (0+ / 0-)

          teachers, police, firefighters…permanent jobs, as long as Republicans don't get to wreck everything, as so many did in firing so many of them, and taking away union rights, and a lot more. And we need to restore many of their pension benefits, and give them union rights again.

          Infrastructure is also not temporary jobs, at least if we do it right. We need to move from "deferred maintenance", running decades behind, to taking care of things before they become problems. We are trillions of dollars behind on bridges, roads, schools, dams, airports, local mass transit…all of which supports industry and creates further jobs. And by the time we do those, we will have more to do. There is also private infrastructure to be built, including a smart power grid. It is an option for high-speed rail.

          Ceterem censeo, gerrymandra delenda est

          by Mokurai on Tue Jan 14, 2014 at 02:27:34 PM PST

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  •  Got to be rich or ignorant to vote republican (0+ / 0-)

    and Fox "news" is not news it's propaganda. "Fair and balanced" is a blatant lie.

    If we lie to the government, it's a felony...but if they lie to us it's politics.

    by rmb on Tue Jan 14, 2014 at 08:56:42 AM PST

  •  Yeah, but it is different when a socialist Muslim (0+ / 0-)

    is doing it compared to a white male authority figure.

    "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin

    by politicalceci on Tue Jan 14, 2014 at 08:56:52 AM PST

    •  No, it isn't (1+ / 0-)
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      At the 1964 Republican National Convention, Jackie Robinson, at that time still a Rockefeller Republican, commented

      That convention was one of the most unforgettable and frightening experiences of my life. The hatred I saw was unique to me because it was hatred directed against a white man. It embodied a revulsion for all he stood for, including his enlightened attitude towards black people.

      A new breed of Republicans had taken over the GOP. As I watched this steamroller operation in San Francisco, I had a better understanding of how it must have felt to be a Jew in Hitler's Germany.

      That White man was LBJ, after the War on Poverty, continuing enforcement of school desegregation, the Civil Rights Act, and the Voting Rights Act. The convention was dominated by Goldwater forces. Goldwater had hired Harry Dent, Sr., previously Strom Thurmond's poltical strategist, to create the Republican Southern Strategy.

      Ceterem censeo, gerrymandra delenda est

      by Mokurai on Tue Jan 14, 2014 at 10:50:51 AM PST

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      •  Even LBJ wasn't hated as much as Obama. (0+ / 0-)

        Today, the RW and the Teabaggers don't care what is done to them as long as Obama fails or gets out.

        They don't even care that white supremacists and other assorted racists take prominent positions within the GOP.  The members aren't even ashamed of the racist propaganda they tote in front of the cameras maligning the POTUS or people of color in their quest to seize authority of this country.

        Because of that rabid, seething hatred of their base, the RW can slip anything past them and laugh all the way to the bank.  Anything Mr. Obama does is seen as an abomination and must be stopped.

        Mr. Robinson was a great man, but his shock at the hatred against President Johnson does not even compare to what Mr. Obama and his family experienced by just being present in the White House.

        Mr. Obama, as a leader and a Black man, is reviled by the GOP. As a person of color, nothing he says or does in the White is taken as an authoritative position by those in the GOP.  

        Mr. Johnson's policies are only being reviled.  He was still considered by the people of his country as a leader. Therein lies the difference.

        "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin

        by politicalceci on Tue Jan 14, 2014 at 11:28:24 AM PST

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  •  No kidding... (3+ / 0-)
    Economists generally say the longer-term unemployed tend to be older
    But we're not ALL Republicans. In fact, many of us in our 50's are (and always have been) liberals (and Democrats).

    But they hit the nail on the head when they say that it is older workers suffering. No one will hire us. We're "used goods"  and somehow not worthy of consideration for just about any job posted.

    This is the dirty little secret few want to talk about. The right wing wants to raise the eligibility age for Medicare and Social Security. But how the holy f*ck are we supposed to work longer when we can't find a decent job?

    I am working at Trader Joe's, and so making barely above poverty level. Yes, TJ's pays better than most, but it's not easy to survive, even on 12 bucks an hour. And it is not easy work. I come home most nights feeling like I've been hit by a Mack truck.

    I'd love to use my wealth of experience in journalism  and as office manager for a marketing firm (which also allowed me to be creatively involved) for some company's benefit. But every resume sent is met with complete and utter silence. Once they see how much experience you have you are deemed "too old."

    I'm sick of f-ing HR managers who are probably in their thirties and can't fathom hiring someone "as old as my mother" Get a clue kiddies, We are the ones with experience and work harder than most kids half our age. Try hiring one of us sometime.

    end of rant...

    Isn’t it ironic to think that man might determine his own future by something so seemingly trivial as the choice of an insect spray. ~ Rachel Carson, Silent Spring ~

    by MA Liberal on Tue Jan 14, 2014 at 09:10:20 AM PST

  •  Voters like these are the reason why Dems (2+ / 0-)
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    should not cave.  The tea party has made it abundantly clear to even the most politically apathetic that the Republicans are the antigovernment of any kind party.  As GOP members come from more rural and often poorer districts as compared to the 1980s a, the GOP finds itself voting against the interests of its own voters, like the one featured in this diary.  

    A lot of times they get away with it, but over a period of years, these actions erode their viability.  They got thrown out of office in 2006 and 2008 because of the Iraq War and a sluggish economy. It wasn't a revolt in blue states that caused this change; it was change in red states and red areas within blue states. In 2008, the vast majority of congressional districts voted substantially more Democratic than in the previous election (that includes districts that Republicans won)  Now, the GOP's interests are even more antagonistic to those of their voters on pocketbook issues.  Keep pushing this issue without compromise and Democrats can reach that tipping point across GOP held districts.

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    by khyber900 on Tue Jan 14, 2014 at 09:11:52 AM PST

  •  People need jobs instead of the moldy crumbs (1+ / 0-)
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    Of UI, life sustaining jobs.

    I forgot the evil TGOP & their vile voters dont care.

    nosotros no somos estúpidos

    by a2nite on Tue Jan 14, 2014 at 09:18:59 AM PST

  •  If you (0+ / 0-)

    hit me just one more time, I will walk out that door! ""I'm registered as a Republican, but if they continue to use this not extending our (aid) I'm probably changing to Democrat,""

  •  I need a job too (0+ / 0-)

    I have been unemployed for 18 months, having resigned to care off my child who has since recovered.  But because I resigned I can collect unemployment, so I rely on my savings and budget cutting.  I have  my MBA and have been on countless interviews, but I am told I am over qualified.  So I am about to start looking for a job at Home Depot or Lowes, just to be back in the work force.  It might only be $8 per hour but at least I will be working and meeting new people who might know of a full time job.  But this months job numbers showed continued growth, more people are working today then were  when Obama entered the White House, so prospects are great.  Good luck to all who are looking, I will pray for each of you.  

  •  Harry Reid's fault (0+ / 0-)

    This is the Republican version of the devil made them do it but it is no more convincing that "the dog ate my homework."  They intended to cut off unemployment insurance- as Rand Paul says, it fosters dependency.  The unemployed actually think they should be able to buy food and pay for housing.  Those moochers!  Everyone knows only corporations are entitled to hand outs- that is why food stamps were cut but assistance to factory farms wasn't. It will be interesting to see how they sell this.  If the answer to Christie is- Benghazi; then the end of unemployment insurance and food stamps answer will probably be- Obamacare.

  •  That's true,however, (0+ / 0-)

    don't believe for a minute these people won't still vote for republicans. These people are IGNORANT.I'm not saying this as an imsult.IGNORANT,means "don't know". As long as they sit back and listen to Faux news all day,they will forever blame the democrats for whatever the republicans say the Democrats are doing to them. The rethugs tell them they wouldn't be poor if it wasn't for those "takers"out there taking all of their money,not the real takers on wall street,the corporate takers,but the welfare Queens that don't exist. A few might come to their senses,but I highly doubt that hard times will make any of them any smarter.They're not going to blame the rethugs, or ex president bush they're going to blame Obama,the African communist,Marxist,socialist,and the Democrats.

  •  it's a sad thing to say, (0+ / 0-)

    but most of the people voting republican know that the republican party has no use for them unless they're rich,and most of them aren't. However,they do need their vote,so they play this game called"the republican party is the white mans party".What the sheeple don't do is read the small print,that says,"the RICH white mans party".I have a vacation home in Arizona,and believe me I've seen more poor white people there then I've ever seen Black and other minorities in cities like Chicago,New York,etc. There are SIMPLY WAY MORE WHITE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY,THEN ALL OTHERS PUT TOGETHER. Therefore, MOST of the people on food stamps ARE WHITE.MOST OF THE PEOPLE RECEIVING ANY KIND OF ASSISTANCE ARE WHITE.MOST PEOPLE ON SOCIAL SECURITY,MEDICARE,MEDICAID,and any other program are WHITE. The republicans know these people that vote for them aren't very intelligent,and they can tell them anything,therefore "THOSE PEOPLE" are sucking up all the aid we should be giving you.

  •  +yeah she'll vote Democrat alright (0+ / 0-)

    Until she get's back on her feet,and start looking down on people with less then her again. At least she finally realizes why she's been a republican all these years,it's because she thought she was big shit all that time. Now,reality has slapped her in the face,and bingo,she's a regular,average,unemployed,person again. Maybe this is the first time she's ever been unemployed. It's amazing what getting broke can do for your intelligence.

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