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LOS ANGELES, CA - JANUARY 26:  Daft Punk performs onstage during the 56th GRAMMY Awards at Staples Center on January 26, 2014 in Los Angeles, California.  (Photo by Kevin Winter/WireImage)

The big winners at the 56th annual Grammy Awards were Daft Punk (aka Guy Manuel de Homem-Christo and Thomas Bangalter) in all their robotic glory, who won Album and Record of the Year, Best Dance/Electronica Album, Best Engineered LP, as well as Best Pop Duo/Group Performance for Get Lucky with Pharrell and Niles Rodgers.

Macklemore and Ryan Lewis also made a big splash last night with awards for Best New Artist, Best Rap Song, Best Rap Album and Best Rap Performance for Thrift Shop. One of the highlights of the night's program was their performance of Same Love, which featured Queen Latifah officiating the marriage of 34 straight and gay couples, and Madonna coming out dressed like Boss Hog with a grill and a cane singing Open Your Heart to the newlyweds. Also, Paul McCartney, Dave Grohl, Krist Novoselic and Pat Smear won Best Rock Song for the collaboration Cut Me Some Slack, and 16-year-old Lorde won Song Of The Year and Best Vocal Pop Performance for Royals. The entire list of winners for all 82 categories can be found here.

Reviews for the telecast are still coming in, but there have been arguments for years about how relevant the show and the distinction of "Grammy Winner" is as far as being a significant reflection of musical greatness within the culture for the given year? For example, this is an awards show occurring in the year 2014 that had Paul McCartney, plus members of Nirvana, beating out Black Sabbath and the Rolling Stones for Best Rock Song, and Led Zeppelin winning Best Rock Album over Queens of the Stone Age for a live album of their greatest hits recorded in 2007. When you pull away all the pomp and spectacle, the Grammys are a 4-hour TV commercial for a dying music industry. And just as people argue about who should and shouldn't be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, people argue about the nominations and winners at the Grammys. The biggest criticism of the ceremony is that the Grammys are a collection of older voters out of touch with the genres they attempt to honor, which has led to some infamous instances of artists being given awards for excellence in genres their music arguably doesn't belong to over other acts who many thought were more deserving.

So is there anything from last night to argue about? More after the jump.

The best thing about the Grammys are the performances and spectacle.

Beyond that is where the arguments start. Any awards program in any medium is going to be subjective. So there's always going to be some arguments. But many feel the major flaw of the Grammys (and arguably most of the other major awards in the arts) is that it's predicated on a system where the representatives of yesteryear are weighing in on the acts of today with their biases.

From Chris Richards at the Washington Post:

In his 1992 book “Broken Record: The Inside Story of the Grammy Awards,” author Henry Schipper argues that out-of-touchness was written into the Grammys’ genetic code. When the founders of the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences (NARAS) assembled in 1957 hoping to create an awards show, they were flummoxed by the rise of rock-and-roll — “ a kind of antimusic — lyrically inane, shoddily produced, a mockery of any reasonable set of musical standards,” Schipper writes.

To honor “artistry” and “excellence,” NARAS hosted the first Grammy Awards in 1959. There were 28 categories. Henry Mancini took home album of the year. Other winners included Ella Fitzgerald, Perry Como and “the Chipmunks.“

So what the Grammys have done in the past is expand the number of categories so everyone can have their own award, while also deflecting some of the criticism for why certain artists aren't nominated or honored. It's sort of like how the Oscars give animated films their own category so they don't have to feel bad about not honoring an animated film that might be better than any of the live-action ones. But the Grammys have found ways to screw even this up in the past. For one thing, it diluted the show into a bloated mess that reached 109 categories at one point, where people were voting on and nominating things they never listened to. For example, back in 1989 the Grammys added a category for Best Hard Rock/Metal Performance. In its inaugural year Jethro Tull's album Crest of a Knave beat Metallica's ...And Justice for All, for an album that even Jethro Tull didn't think belonged in that category, but won because it's a name the older voters of the academy recognized.

And that's usually a bigger problem in the Album of the Year category. It's long been treated by the Grammy voters as a lifetime achievement award. In 2001, Steely Dan's Two Against Nature beat out Radiohead's Kid A and Eminem's The Marshall Mathers LP. In 2008, Herbie Hancock won Album of the Year with a Joni Mitchell covers record over Amy Winehouse's Back to Black and Kanye West's Graduation.

And then there's the Grammys spotty history with rap and hip-hop.

Never in the history of the Grammys has a hip-hop track won for Song or Record of the Year. In all 56 years of the Grammys' existence, there have only been four rap nominees for Song of the Year. Not four winners. Four nominees. And that's in an era where in the last twenty years rap and hip-hop singles have dominated Billboard Hot 100 charts, iTunes downloads and radio airplay.

So that's led to a little bit of debate over Macklemore and Ryan Lewis' success in the rap categories last night. Most of the criticism is not that The Heist was a bad album or Thrift Shop a bad track, or a denial that Same Love has a great message, but in the grand scheme of things was The Heist really better than the material on Kanye's Yeezus, Jay-Z's Magna Carta…Holy Grail, Kendrick Lamar's Good Kid, M.A.A.D City, and Drake's Nothing Was The Same?

From Steven Hyden at Grantland:

I’m tempted to say it won’t be significant at all, because deep down I don’t think award shows (least of all the Grammys) ultimately shape how the history of art forms are remembered. That “Hey Ya!” didn’t win Record of the Year obviously hasn’t affected the love people have for it. (As much as I like “Clocks,” it probably won’t outlive “Lose Yourself” or “Crazy in Love,” either.) “Jesus Walks” is better regarded today than John Mayer’s “Daughters,” even though the latter beat the former for Song of the Year in 2005. Jay Z has as many Song of the Year nominations as Hoobastank, and yet Jay Z could pay to have the members of Hoobastank dropped into a South American rain forest and hunted like wild game by billionaires. This is as it should be. Awards never stick around as long as truly great music does.

But while I believe everything I just typed, it’s not exactly true. The Grammys do matter — maybe not as an arbiter of quality, but certainly as a signpost for the current state of the recording industry and unquestionably as a driver of sales (or at least plays on streaming services). Because the media inevitably focuses way too much attention on these empty, self-congratulatory displays, their professed importance becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy, at least in the short term. (I plead guilty to this charge.) A Grammy victory reiterates and amplifies trends in pop music that the Grammy voters see as worthwhile, which then makes those trends appear to loom even larger in the culture.

Originally posted to 医生的宫殿 on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 11:47 AM PST.

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  •  Tip Jar (29+ / 0-)

    Grammys fashion:

    From left, Rita Ora in Lanvin, Taylor Swift in Gucci, Ciara in Emilio Pucci and model Chrissy Teigen in Johanna Johnson
    From left, Kacey Musgraves in Armani Privé, Katy Perry in Valentino and Anna Kendrick in Azzaro
    From left, Stevie Nicks, Madonna in Ralph Lauren, Yoko Ono and Cyndi Lauper in Alexander McQueen
    From left, Pink in Johanna Johnson, Gloria Estefan in Memeka by Gustavo Cadile, Colbie Caillat in Ezra Santos and Miranda Lambert in Pamella Roland
    From left, Robin Thicke and Paula Patton in Nicolas Jebran; Guy-Manuel de Homem-Christo, left, and Thomas Bangalter of Daft Punk; and Jamie Foxx, right, with his daughter, Corinne
    From left, Willie Nelson, Abel Tesfaye of the Weeknd, Austin Mahone in Sanctuary 28 and Miguel in Saint Laurent

    From Rolling Stone: Trent Reznor Blasts Grammys With 'A Heartfelt F--k You' Tweet

    Music fans weren't the only ones disappointed by CBS pulling the plug early on the Grammys finale last night. About 45 minutes after the broadcast, Nine Inch Nails frontman Trent Reznor unleashed an invective on Twitter at the awards show's organizers, playing with its tagline. "Music's biggest night. . . to be disrespected. A heartfelt FUCK YOU guys," he wrote.

    The awards show had been running about 15 minutes late by the time Nine Inch Nails took the stage with Queens of the Stone Age, Fleetwood Mac's Lindsey Buckingham and Dave Grohl. The supergroup was able to play two songs – NIN's "Copy of A" and most of Queens of the Stone Age's "My God Is the Sun" – before the TV network ran ads for its programming and for an airline sponsor, all with the music going on in the background. Considering the group members had all played together in various configurations, the rest of their set remained a mystery to TV viewers. In actuality, according to RS reporters in attendance, the set ended shortly after the broadcast ended. And perhaps unbeknownst to Trent, the final performance of the Grammy telecast is often pre-empted by closing remarks and ads.

  •  Lorde was fantastic. the weddings were an (12+ / 0-)

    imperfect lovely gesture, and love should be celebrated

    beyonce does not actually "sing" "songs"

    "The poor can never be made to suffer enough." Jimmy Breslin

    by merrywidow on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 12:16:54 PM PST

    •  i don't 'get' lorde (5+ / 0-)

      i'm sure it's me. i find her unlistenable.

      "What you do speaks so loud that I cannot hear what you say"~Ralph Waldo Emerson

      by 73rd virgin on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 12:23:11 PM PST

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    •  Lorde looked like she was 35 years old (5+ / 0-)

      what with the black lipstick and dour expression.

      •  Ha! Isn't black lipstick and a dour expression (5+ / 0-)
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        a right of passage for teenagers?

      •  The message. (11+ / 0-)

        Yea, she looked a little out of place but I think that's what's her song is all about. Not buying into the conventional wisdom as to what should be deemed beautiful and successful.

        Maya Angelou: "Without courage, we cannot practice any other virtue with consistency. We can't be kind, true, merciful, generous, or honest."

        by JoanMar on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 07:22:16 PM PST

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        •  Broken glass, everywhere? (1+ / 0-)
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          "Reagan's dead, and he was a lousy president" -- Keith Olbermann 4/22/09

          by kovie on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 07:30:03 PM PST

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          •  What are you talking about? (4+ / 0-)

            Just a little of the song:

            But everybody's like Cristal, Maybach, diamonds on your timepiece.
            Jet planes, islands, tigers on a gold leash.
            We don't care, we aren't caught up in your love affair.

            And we'll never be royals (royals).
            It don't run in our blood,
            That kind of luxe just ain't for us.
            We crave a different kind of buzz.
            Let me be your ruler (ruler),
            You can call me queen Bee
            And baby I'll rule, I'll rule, I'll rule, I'll rule.
            Let me live that fantasy.

            [Verse 2]
            My friends and I—we've cracked the code.
            We count our dollars on the train to the party.
            And everyone who knows us knows that we're fine with this,
            We didn't come from money.

            Maya Angelou: "Without courage, we cannot practice any other virtue with consistency. We can't be kind, true, merciful, generous, or honest."

            by JoanMar on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 07:55:25 PM PST

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        •  She's (6+ / 0-)
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            17 years old from New Zealand. What an accomplishment. The song is sweet younger generational sound and a nice buffer, to a lot of 4square radio vibe, to land onto from someone who loves music and switches channels non stop (radio stations know how to adddddd commercials nowadays, also).

          March AGAINST monsatanOHagentorange 3/25/13 a time warp

          by 3rock on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 07:56:10 PM PST

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        •  That's just it. (2+ / 0-)
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          I don't think she looked out of place at all. She fit right in with all the other artists trying really hard to convince us how original and unique they are.

          I thought her styling choices for the Grammy performance actually undermined the message of the song. It struck me as somewhat ironic for someone trying to establish their indie cred on the world's biggest stage. I wasn't particularly impressed or convinced by the performance.

          My initial comment was a toss-off on the fact that last night she looked twice her age. It wasn't meant as comprehensive critique or review of her hit song or her artistic abilities.

          I like her music too and appreciate the fresh and brilliant song writing; especially from someone so young. I wish her and her co-writers all the success in the world. And if in a year from now she has diamonds on her timepiece I won't hold it against her.

      •  I'd never heard of her or Royals (4+ / 0-)
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        before last night's Grammy's, and based on her performance she looked to me like an aging goth with a not terribly great complexion who finally got a break fairly late in her career. It was only later, through the magic of Teh Google, that I found out that she's a pretty and very conventional-looking teen who happens to be very musically talented. Kind of like Taylor Swift, but darker.

        You know you're old when you haven't even heard of over half the performers at the Grammy's. I have no idea who that woman who performed with Carol King was. Nor did I know that Sir Paul co-produced a song with 2/3 of Nirvana. Although, I'd heard of Macklemore when I lived in Seattle.

        "Reagan's dead, and he was a lousy president" -- Keith Olbermann 4/22/09

        by kovie on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 07:35:04 PM PST

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    •  I like her too. I love the message in her song. (3+ / 0-)

      I love the messages in Macklemore songs -  especially  Thrift Shop and Same Love - but I don't know that he deserved the win over Kendrick Lamar.
      I'll leave it at that rather than comment on the racial aspect of the Grammy and its history.
      Macklemore especially doesn't deserve to have the negativity being directed at him because of the over-enthusiasm of the people who make up that voting body.

      Maya Angelou: "Without courage, we cannot practice any other virtue with consistency. We can't be kind, true, merciful, generous, or honest."

      by JoanMar on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 07:19:52 PM PST

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      •  my 17 yo daughter is in an absolute funk - (1+ / 0-)
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        over the fact that Kendrick Lamar didn't win a single award.  Unfortunately, I have completely lost control over the music she listens to but based on her constant harassment of me to get outside of my musical box, I have gotten a little exposure to Kendrick and his album does seem to be the work of a truly innovative artist.  Believe it or not, I hadn't even heard of Imagine Dragon before the Grammys and I thought the Kendrick/Imagine Dragons collaboration was the highlight of the night.  I completely loved it.  My problem is that I can't figure out how to fit anymore music or discovery of new artists into my life.  I am already drowning in parenting, e-mail, work, community activities - so I watch the Grammys with my kids and learn something new every year.

  •  to quote woody allen (10+ / 0-)

    they give awards for that music?

    The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

    by Laurence Lewis on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 12:22:03 PM PST

  •  i actually adored the musical collaborations (14+ / 0-)

    that were put together, especially stevie with daft punk, and kendrick lamar with imagine dragons. the latter especially. i was transfixed. i would watch a night of those types of performances, with or without the awards :D

    "What you do speaks so loud that I cannot hear what you say"~Ralph Waldo Emerson

    by 73rd virgin on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 12:22:26 PM PST

    •  i don't know how to embed video (1+ / 0-)
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      link to rolling stone article about the collaboration, which includes embedded video

      "What you do speaks so loud that I cannot hear what you say"~Ralph Waldo Emerson

      by 73rd virgin on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 12:27:25 PM PST

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    •  The awards are largely irrelevant. (5+ / 0-)
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      I watch for the performances and I suppose spectacle.  

      Some performances were good, some bad.  I surprisingly liked Carole King and the gal she sang with and Daft Punk with Stevie and hated Metallica.  Not impressed by the NIN performance either.  

      While I support gay rights, I hated that McLemore song, but liked the wedding aspect.  

      "So listen, oh, Don't wait." Vampire Weekend.

      by Publius2008 on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 12:50:22 PM PST

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      •  I agree about Stevie & robots + Pharell (sp?) (3+ / 0-)

        And it was fitting that Nile Rogers got yet more mileage out of his famous bass line that launched like a thousand songs. Another One Bites Good Delights!

        "Reagan's dead, and he was a lousy president" -- Keith Olbermann 4/22/09

        by kovie on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 07:39:08 PM PST

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        •  That's not Nile's bass line. The bass player for (4+ / 0-)

          Chic, Bernard Edwards, wrote it. Nile plays guitar.

          If reality clashes with your belief, then the problem clearly is reality.--God

          by Flyswatterbanjo on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 07:49:59 PM PST

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          •  That's right (4+ / 0-)

            But he wrote or co-wrote the song and is the best-known member, no?

            "Reagan's dead, and he was a lousy president" -- Keith Olbermann 4/22/09

            by kovie on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 07:53:38 PM PST

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            •  Correct. I was just talking about the famous (3+ / 0-)

              bass lline, which Bernard most definitely wrote.

              If reality clashes with your belief, then the problem clearly is reality.--God

              by Flyswatterbanjo on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 07:57:35 PM PST

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              •  Did he actually write it? (1+ / 0-)
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                Or did it come to him during early practice sessions? I'm not a musician so I have no idea how songs are typically "written"?

                Btw to those who don't know what we're talking about, google it. It's pretty interesting. It's to modern rock, pop and rap what I've Got Rhythm was and still is to Jazz, a foundation upon which many variations have been built.

                "Reagan's dead, and he was a lousy president" -- Keith Olbermann 4/22/09

                by kovie on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 08:30:06 PM PST

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                •  In rock, pop, funk, soul, R&B, etc, (1+ / 0-)
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                  the musician has "written" his or her part when they invent it in a rehearsal or jam session. That's really how it is in a band situation, like Chic. For a big production, like a Celine Dion song, the strings and horn parts may have been written by an orchestrator or producer. But even with Celine Dion, the drummer, bassist, guitarists and keyboardists might have written their own parts. They don't get songwriting credit for that.

                  Edwards (the bassist for Chic) does have songwriting credit for "Good Times," I don't know if that means he contributed to the melody and lyrics, which is usually how songwriting credit is doled out.

                  Now people don't usually care or make note of who wrote the bass line of a particular song, but in the case of "Good Times," they do, because it's iconic now and it's the hook of the song. "Good Times" is the most sampled song in history, with that bass line making an appearance on subsequent hits such as Sugarhill Gang's "Rapper's Delight," and inspiring the bass lines for Blondie's "Rapture," and Queen's "Another One Bites the Dust." BTW, Queen's bass player was in the recording studio with Chic when they recorded "Good Times."

                  Edwards and Rodgers wrote the song. Edwards wrote the bass line. Rodgers wrote the guitar parts, and they both played the shit out of them!

                  If reality clashes with your belief, then the problem clearly is reality.--God

                  by Flyswatterbanjo on Tue Jan 28, 2014 at 11:39:33 AM PST

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                  •  I was going to add Tom Tom Club's Genius of Love (1+ / 0-)
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                    which also has one of the most covered bass lines, but it has a different one, albeit similar funk-sounding (at least to this non-musician's ears).

                    (Tried to embed various versions but none worked.)

                    Another one that comes to mind is the bass line from Herb Albert's Rise:

                    "Reagan's dead, and he was a lousy president" -- Keith Olbermann 4/22/09

                    by kovie on Tue Jan 28, 2014 at 12:42:37 PM PST

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      •  the NIN performance was less cohesive, sure (2+ / 0-)
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        but any time dave grohl is behind the drum kit, mama's happy :))  

        "What you do speaks so loud that I cannot hear what you say"~Ralph Waldo Emerson

        by 73rd virgin on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 09:57:44 PM PST

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    •  Also loved the Carole King/Sara Bareilles (1+ / 0-)
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      performance. It was cute and simple.

    •  That's what I tune in for. The juxtapositions. (1+ / 0-)
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      I also like nostalgia, and the older performers add a little class to the show, IMO.

      "The soil under the grass is dreaming of a young forest, and under the pavement the soil is dreaming of grass."--Wendell Berry

      by Wildthumb on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 07:46:24 PM PST

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      •  i will never get tired of seeing stevie wonder (2+ / 0-)
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        but, imo, mccartney needs to pack it in. or play the old, good stuff. not the lazy crap he writes now.

        "What you do speaks so loud that I cannot hear what you say"~Ralph Waldo Emerson

        by 73rd virgin on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 09:54:39 PM PST

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        •  Agreed. My wife adores him, and I don't say (1+ / 0-)
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          what I think about his present "lazy crap" as you say. She's viewed his Gershwin prize performance in the WH many times and went to his concert in Portland, OR. She's still a Paul groupie from the old days.

          But hey, I kind of adore the guy, too. I was there in the beginning, in the army in Panama, when I saw "Paulie" and the boys in A Hard Day's Night in 1964.  I wanted to be a Beatle.

          But yeah, reluctantly, his later stuff is far below his earlier work. All in all, though, I'm glad Paul McCartney has been on this planet. And I love that he's still around.

          "The soil under the grass is dreaming of a young forest, and under the pavement the soil is dreaming of grass."--Wendell Berry

          by Wildthumb on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 10:47:19 PM PST

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  •  My favorite Grammy winner: (7+ / 0-)

    Of course it was at the pre-Grammys Grammys held at the Nokia
    Theater earlier in the day.

  •  The Beatles put out 14 albums between 1963-1970... (21+ / 0-)

    for which they won 6 Grammy Awards.

    Taylor Swift has released 4 albums since 2006, for which she's won 7 Grammys.

    Need I say more?

    Note: The Beatles won an additional 3 Grammys in 1997 for The Beatles Anthology & "Free As a Bird," and got a Lifetime Achievement award last night.

  •  The Grammys (2+ / 0-)
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    are irrelevant since they decdied to throw classical music under the bus along with non-rock/hiphop/rap categories.  

    twitter was afire with the question "Who are The Beatles"? Jaye-Z was onstage using the n-word, and some people were pissed that white recording artists receiving awards.

    I love self-mockery

    "My case is alter'd, I must work for my living." Moll Cut-Purse, The Roaring Girl - 1612, England's First Actress

    by theRoaringGirl on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 04:10:10 PM PST

  •  Soon to be 63, (2+ / 0-)
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        so I REMEMBER the snubs to the Beatles…
        The entire entertainment industry is in the wallows. It's the set, that it is dependent on corporate now VERY creepy commercials "reality." So the whole carte blanche is on a WAY right media curtain, quasi cult, I heart (owned by clear channel, bain) "mold." Extremes op the extremes. I.e. it's down to vamps v, how quaint.
        The "crux" in the battle is the videos that go along with the song. One will hear a song, an emotion vision will form, then one sees the video. A vision of ugliness to wreck the mood, words and perception of the song. Not many vids have followed MJ's and early MTV's entertainment lead. Simplified: Lorde's song "Royals" (very sweet, nice mood & sounding. I love the song) won best song of the year and best pop solo performance. The vid of, HAD TWO YOUNG MEN BOXING! Grammy's been punked :) We are tired of war.
        Believe me I've seen it over the years, they can't even get this boxing and cigars off the drawing board, to failure yet again, this worn out ol time...
        The Grammy's, who cares as the artists who love music and the younger gens people, because of tech, who listen, are in a plane far above, beyond and out there. Music right now is really ON, though you wouldn't know it from the yodeling vs vs on FM at this junction of time. The dj's who think they know more than those who actually play the strings, chords, hit the keys and make the music. The same beat riffs that the dj is fixated on, "their sound" sampled from different songs OVER & OVER & OVER. One needs enhancement, one declines that enhancement as one doesn't need that kind of enhancement to dull absolute boredom…
        So where is pop music at, just my opinion, right at this time? What's their plan? The vamps & latin yodeling mix Vs… ? Honestly it's funny.
        Being older, I love all music. I have to say seeing Madonna, who I love, in that outfit, reminded me of a mom who in not realizing their non acceptance of control, in the loss of a daughter at the daughter's wedding, wears something outrageous distracting from her daughters wedding. That outfit was plain old UGLY. Puke. Sad really. I hope before "Sunset Blvd." sets in… Which brings me to a Thank You for the fashion highlights in this diary. 99 buzzes to not many diffs.
        Music is always astonishing. I thought the song "Same Love" was sung by two black people. Compliment.
        Finally, one the the best songs I've heard in many moons "I See Fire" by Ed Sheeran, from the current "Hobbit" movie, I've yet to hear on radio. Hobbit isn't I heart.
            The entire entertainment industry is in the wallows.
        P.S. LOVE LOVE LOVE to Yoko Ono. She's going to be there when the Grammy's finally rock.

    March AGAINST monsatanOHagentorange 3/25/13 a time warp

    by 3rock on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 06:55:05 PM PST

    •  I'm hardly a close follower of today's music (4+ / 0-)
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      wader, rocksout, tobendaro, 3rock

      But I'm guessing that the best stuff being made today is to be found in clubs and on "underground" web sites. As always.

      "Reagan's dead, and he was a lousy president" -- Keith Olbermann 4/22/09

      by kovie on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 07:43:36 PM PST

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      •  Alot on YouTube and other media-sharing sites (2+ / 0-)
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        I feel.  Still lots of touring and shows to get local recognition and try to make it bigger, faster . . . but, the Internet is helping out many, I feel.

        So is Satellite radio - by genre selection with lots of repeated playlists.

        "So, please stay where you are. Don't move and don't panic. Don't take off your shoes! Jobs is on the way."

        by wader on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 08:04:22 PM PST

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      •  Lots of people (2+ / 0-)
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        make music and lots of it is wonderful.  My own son is an incredible musician but the playing out scene is a drag to him and his buddies.  They just like to play and the hoopla involved in sharing is annoying and life reducing.  So they rarely do it.  I think many people are like that.  The success stories, by that I mean financially successful from music, have a personality that embraces show and pomp.  Many musicians don't care about any of that.

        Everyone! Arms akimbo! 68351

        by tobendaro on Tue Jan 28, 2014 at 04:39:39 AM PST

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  •  I am a record collector. Mostly, Edison cylinders (3+ / 0-)
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    and discs up to the 20's.

    I also went to the same High School as Ms. Knowles.

    Pope Francis: the Thumb of Christ in the eyes of the Pharisees.

    by commonmass on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 07:03:13 PM PST

  •  Don't knock McCartney, but Ringo... (5+ / 0-)

    Ringo made me laugh, singing a remustered version of 1973's "Photograph" and then saying "Let me Hear YOU!" to the audience.. uh, Ringo, most of these people don't know the lyrics.  If you wanted to do a catchy number you wrote in your solo career you could do something like Weight of the World or something.

    As far as McCartney's win, his performance as it was in that collaboration - that one track - was fantastic.   He deserved the nom.  And the Rolling Stones nomination was not deserved, it was the most rehashed work they have had in years, nothing original at all.

    It was an imperfect gesture the Macklemore bit, but it was a reminder for when protest music mattered, the late 60s, etc.. hell, the last real protest stance anyone took I remember recently was the completely brilliant 'Not Ready to Make Nice' (Dixie Chicks) which was one of the best grammy performances ever.

    It was a good show.    Madonna looked too much like the Quaker Oats guy.

    Taylor Swift got her wanna-be-a-rap dancer on:

    Gandhi's Seven Sins: Wealth without work; Pleasure without conscience; Knowledge without character; Commerce without morality; Science without humanity; Worship without sacrifice; Politics without principle

    by Chris Reeves on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 07:09:14 PM PST

  •  I threw up in my mouf (0+ / 0-)

    I don't really remember hearing any music from last year. Oh yeah thats right, none of that crap is music.

    If I said anything that offended anyone, you probably deserved it.

    by Mokislab on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 07:09:41 PM PST

  •  Keep in mind (8+ / 0-)

    ...that Confucius once said, in 400 BC:

    "This new generation is ruining the culture with their music!"

    “The Internet is the first thing that humanity has built that humanity doesn't understand, the largest experiment in anarchy that we have ever had.” ― Eric Schmidt

    by Pluto on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 07:10:35 PM PST

    •  Nobody asked me (5+ / 0-)

      …but I think you should know that "new music" is a mathematical feedback code that rains down from the Universe constantly. It only finds receptors and expression in the most sexually influential of the species -- who reinterpret it and give it meaning in order to evolve conscious life.

      Ya gotta keep up.

      In his younger and sexier days, Confucius also said:

      Those who can understand the sacrament of music can rule the world as though it were spinning on the palm of their hand.

      “The Internet is the first thing that humanity has built that humanity doesn't understand, the largest experiment in anarchy that we have ever had.” ― Eric Schmidt

      by Pluto on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 07:32:46 PM PST

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  •  Ah, The Grandmother Awards (1+ / 0-)
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    Lovely people.

    Be of good comfort, Master Ridley, and play the man; we shall this day light such a candle by God's grace in England as shall never be put out.

    by Bollox Ref on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 07:11:13 PM PST

  •  I confess (5+ / 0-)
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    that I see very little musical art in rap music.  I allow that it is popular, but as a musical artform, I am eager for its demise in popular culture.

    Okay, I'm an old fart, but bad rhyming to a beat isn't music nor worthy of an award.  Then again, I also understand that this is more about marketing than an actual acknowledgement of musical talent. So, hey you kids,  get off my lawn.

    You can't spell CRAZY without R-AZ.

    by rb608 on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 07:13:15 PM PST

  •  Sheesh, people. You're overthinking it. (5+ / 0-)
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    It's all about the fashion disasters.

  •  What I find really really sad (2+ / 0-)
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    is the fact that music today is little more than corporate disneyesc crap.

    Here we have a whole generation of young people coming up in a world where they have no jobs waiting for them, they'll never get to retire. we have destroyed their planet, Govt spy on everything they do, We are tossing more and more of them in jail then ever before, we have loaded them with unreal debt loads, and on and on... and what... their music reflects basically none of this.

    Its a bunch of actually embarrassing music.  I was at a stop light the other day. Im an old middle class white guy who has had a good life, but still Im there blaring Queensryche Operation Mind Crime, with songs like Revolution, and next to me comes up these suppose young hard asses in same lame kia, and the music they were blaring was like some kiddie musical dance crap, it was embarrassing,and this happens all the time.

    Music is suppose to be about and reflect on the current culture, well music today makes a pretty sad statement about this current generation. They are basically spoon fed corporate crap, and they seem to be OK with it.

    •  Music has many roles. (3+ / 0-)
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      Escape is a long-honored role of music.  

      In World War II, some popular music rallied support for the war effort, other music reflected the longing of individuals parted "for the duration" and yet other music offered an escape from the realities of war.  The Sixties had their share of protest songs in multiple genres, but heartfelt raging at the Vietnam War and social injustice was blended with some truly vapid pop and no little experimentation with whatever "rock" was.  The Nineties' "grunge" music included quite a few yawps and no few "boy bands" singing saccharine love ballads.  

      "Politics should be the part-time profession of every citizen who would protect the rights and privileges of free people and who would preserve what is good and fruitful in our national heritage." -- Lucille Ball

      by Yamaneko2 on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 07:46:14 PM PST

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      •  yet one of the most important (0+ / 0-)

        roles of music is to give a voice to that generation, something completely missing now.

        50's had motown and r&B rock
        Sixties had protest, and rock
         70s had folk, progressive rock
        80s had punk and heavy metal
        90's had grunge, rap

        and since... nothing

        and the point , the kids and young people today are more screwed then ever.

  •  All Award Shows... (2+ / 0-)
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    ...and that includes the Oscars, Emmys, Tonys, and the American Country Peoples Choice Critics Awards are crap. They're just a PR stunt to convince people that the shit on offer is real art. What should you and I care whether a book/movie/TV show/record that we like gets an award? Do you like it better if it wins or less if it loses?

  •  my DVR quit recording before the end... (0+ / 0-)

    Wasn't that Joe Walsh sitting on the front row? what did he end up doing? was he in the marathon band at the end with Lindsey?

    What Fresh Hell is This? -- Dorothy Parker

    by chazz509 on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 07:24:09 PM PST

  •  Ok, Pharrell's park ranger hat was awesome. (6+ / 0-)

    Nile Rodgers played like the ace he is--so fun to watch. Omar Hakim, brilliant. And the bassist was fantastic. These are the live players on the Daft Punk song. And of course, Stevie.

    See, now that was a perfect marriage of the old and new (people AND sounds).

    If reality clashes with your belief, then the problem clearly is reality.--God

    by Flyswatterbanjo on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 07:24:46 PM PST

  •  The show was too f'ing long... (3+ / 0-)
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    and boring.
    There were a few memorable moments but we had to suffer through...what? 4 hours?

    Your link to Same Love is broken. Here is that most beautiful song:

    Maya Angelou: "Without courage, we cannot practice any other virtue with consistency. We can't be kind, true, merciful, generous, or honest."

    by JoanMar on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 07:25:13 PM PST

  •  I guess it's official now...I'm a coot (7+ / 0-)

    I've actually been INVOLVED in the music industry since the '70s, starting with the punk scene, and have always found great music to be a fan of up to now. But when I see people raving over that Beyonce/Jay-Z mess, and the second-tier tired club music of Daft Punk, not to mention the rest of the utterly forgettable pap I heard last night... well I guess it's time;


    "All lives end. All hearts get broken. Caring is not an advantage." - Mycroft Holmes

    by Fordmandalay on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 07:25:29 PM PST

  •  I did not watch (1+ / 0-)
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    But most of your comments sound on point to me, except maybe the suggestion that Drake should have won something for his rap. I just can't get past what a poser he is. I was watching him on Saturday Night Live, and he does the opening monologue as Canadian as you can be. Then he does his musical numbers and suddenly, he has morphed into someone who grew up in da hood. And how does someone who grew up privileged come across as credible singing about his hard life?

    Oh wait, he was an actor before he was a rapper. Maybe that explains it. Drake winning a Grammy for rap would be like a more talented version of Vanilla Ice winning one. But based on Vanilla Ice's voice on the latest reality show he is on (a cooking show in which all his dishes have ice in the name), at least his speaking voice matches his singing voice.

    I know I should be able to get past it...I mean why should rap have to be more genuine than say, country, which has Norwegian singers putting on a twang?

    Ok, end of my Drake rant. I did think he showed some decent acting skills on SNL and he has a nice voice. I would just like him better without all the posing.

    **Electing Republicans to the government is like hiring pyromaniacs as firemen. They all just want to see everything burn to the ground.**

    by CatM on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 07:28:56 PM PST

  •  Jumped the Shark Tank in the 80s (2+ / 0-)
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    for me when Jethro Tull won for best heavy metal album.


    Of course, they probably nominated Abba for best instrumental at some point in the 70s and I was too young to notice.

    The name of the Tull album was "Steel Monkey"....steel... heavy metal...oh, I get it...

    The folks at the Grammy's don't have a clue about music!

    As soon as that thought entered my mind, I felt much better about things.

    And I haven't watched it since.

  •  At least no Macklemore bashing here (3+ / 0-)
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    I am sick of all the white rapper bashing that has been going on in slate and salon.
    Macklemore is deserving of all of his nominations. Wins are a crapshoot at the grammys. Many deserving white and black musicians have been denied in the past, so Kendrick ishardly alone.  Every year, the voters have their comfort zone. Last year, it was Adele. This year, at least they spread it around . Sure Kendrick got denied. But Vampire Weekend which had not only a good album, but an album full of catchy tunes that would play well on an awards show didn't even get a single live spot on the show and instead we had to watch QOSA(I thought the Trent Reznor part of the set was more interesting), Metallica(Hetfield's vocals didn't keep up with the rest of the electrifying performance of ONE),

    It would have been nice if one of the legacy sets(I would single out Chicago's only because they didn't have the full band back and Robin THicke was such a bad fit with them) was shuntedout  in favor  of a R&B/Soul band form the past.

    •  Here I come (0+ / 0-)

      Macklesuck is not hip hop - it's pop.

      And I say this as someone who likes the song they performed - it's catchy and poppy who wouldn't like it?

      Oh, and Kendrick?  He didn't deserve the award either.

      The people who judge this stuff don't know/like actual hip hop, that's why the awards go to the most commercial act that can be shoe horned into the category.

      Rant off.

      •  I ask this not to be challenging or anything... (1+ / 0-)
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        ...but how exactly are Macklemore and Lewis not hip-hop? I mean yeah, it's definitely mainstream-friendly hip-hop, but then so was "I Left My Wallet in El Segundo." Lewis is definitely laying down beats, and I don't see how we can get around categorizing Macklemore as an MC: he's definitely speaking rhymes, and with (to my subjective ear) pretty good flow.

        It's maybe hip-hop that you don't much luck like, or hip-hop fusion, or hip-hop that can be argued as too mainstream friendly, but not hip-hop at all? Doesn't make sense to me. Reminds me of how people have often described this or that band as "not punk" because it doesn't meet their narrow perception of punk (usually the misguided purist notion that only choppy three-chord hardcore is punk). I've actually heard people claim that not only Green Day (pop-punk, no question), but even the Clash and Television, aren't punk on such terms.

        Mind you I'm much better versed on punk than on hip-hop, so I'm more'n willing to be educated, but I just don't see it.


        "No, no, we are not satisfied, and we will not be satisfied until justice rolls down like waters and righteousness like a mighty stream." --MLK

        by Progressive Witness on Tue Jan 28, 2014 at 08:07:41 AM PST

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        •  "you don't much luck like"? (0+ / 0-)

          Jesus, I need to learn not to type a damn thing until I've had at least a gallon of coffee, apparently. "You don't much like." Yeesh.

          "No, no, we are not satisfied, and we will not be satisfied until justice rolls down like waters and righteousness like a mighty stream." --MLK

          by Progressive Witness on Tue Jan 28, 2014 at 08:12:32 AM PST

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      •  Macklemore can be both (0+ / 0-)

        Just like Weezer was part of indie rock and pop.
        Puffy as much as one can make fun of his pop  songs was part of rap - merits of which can be debated.

        The Grammys are supposed to be mainstream. Hell, Black Keys is a pure retro mainstream act and they won for best alternative album not too long ago.

        Grammys are kind of weird with their timing eligibility. Macklemore does not feel like a new artist still. Lorde got nominated for a bunch of stuff, but not new artist? And then you had Bruno Mars who had a lot of great stuff, but all of it seemed like last year's news.

  •  Gabriel era Genesis Never Won (4+ / 0-)
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    So screw everybody.

    Remember, the road to victory is paved with big words and professorial arrogance. Passion need not apply.

    by The Lone Apple on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 07:38:02 PM PST

  •  Madonna Is Not Aging Well (3+ / 0-)
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    Combine it with a Colonel Sanders impression and really it's not pretty.

    Her singing voice even sounded awful.

    Is she well?

    She looks skinny and sick.

    "I think that gay marriage is something that should be between a man and a woman.” - Arnold Schwarzenegger 2003

    by kerplunk on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 07:46:09 PM PST

  •  What's more irrelevant than the Grammys? (0+ / 0-)

    A FP diary about it.

  •  Colbert won! (0+ / 0-)

    I'm sure he will mention that early and often.  

    "In 20 years, the GOP will be small enough to drown in a bathtub." - me

    by estamm on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 07:52:34 PM PST

  •  I was glad to see Daft Punk win (5+ / 0-)

    I was glad to see Daft Punk win something.  Not so long ago, they were way, way underground: my Second Life avatar used to host a series of parties where a blue squirrel-like creature spun quirky electronic pop music.  Daft Punk was one of my DJ's staples.  For 2 or 3 years we were literally underground as well as underwater: my DJ had a club built below the water table level (which was 25 metros above the bottom of the grid.)

  •  Madonna Received A Granny This Year (1+ / 0-)
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    "I think that gay marriage is something that should be between a man and a woman.” - Arnold Schwarzenegger 2003

    by kerplunk on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 08:01:11 PM PST

  •  Starland Vocal Band beat out Boston in 1976 (6+ / 0-)

    I decided the Grammys were hopeless in 1976 when the
    Starland Vocal Band beat out Boston for best new artist.

  •  Hey, it was great to see Paul Williams (1+ / 0-)
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    again winning a grammy for album of the year, and not just in Love Boat reruns.  What could be more relevant.

  •  The Grammys exist for one reason (1+ / 0-)
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    So next Christmas when Grandma and Grandpa go shopping for Junior's present, they'll be hip to all the most happenin sounds.

    Grandpa: "Ah, here it is.... that Train band from the Grammys! Billy will love it!"

    Grandma: "Let's get it. Oh, and here's the John Mayer fellow. I believe he's won six or maybe seven Grammys...."

    Grandpa: "Six, I think. Do they have it on the cassette? I think Billy's got the Walkman thingy, doesn't he?"

  •  Daft Punk? Seriously? (0+ / 0-)

    That "get lucky" song is the most vapid thing I've ever heard.  Serious not-music.  Ugh.

    Can you call yourself a real liberal if you aren't reading driftglass?

    by CJB on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 08:23:43 PM PST

    •  It's the only radio song in years (1+ / 0-)
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      that makes this AARP-eligible fat man make me want to shake my oversized groove thang. A Nile Rodgers guitar line can do that to a fella.

      Hige sceal þe heardra, heorte þe cenre, mod sceal þe mare, þe ure mægen lytlað

      by milkbone on Tue Jan 28, 2014 at 10:51:14 AM PST

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  •  I've always enjoyed Daft Punk's creativity (1+ / 0-)
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    Doctor RJ

    and sense of what's a groove from what never seems groove-worthy to begin with.  They're excellent live DJs.

    Looks like my favorite drummer, Omar Hakim, playing on this creative melding of various songs from Daft Punk, Chic and Stevie Wonder in a highly satisfying performance:

    "So, please stay where you are. Don't move and don't panic. Don't take off your shoes! Jobs is on the way."

    by wader on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 08:29:27 PM PST

    •  Dying industry (1+ / 0-)
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      Amen to that and about time! The advance of digitization
      increasingly puts the means of production in the hands of the people. Up Marx and Lenin! Shall we bury the music industry or let it rot aboveground?

      " last in virtue's narrow cell, the wretched bondsman sits"-Auden

      by pixelate on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 08:55:50 PM PST

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  •  Worst Grammies Ever (0+ / 0-)

    Mostly poor performances by overrated artists and geezers.  Totally stupid judging. The only things worthwhile were Carol King/Bareilles duet and the Everly Brothers tribute.  Serious artists ought to boycott this POS and start their own award shows.  Call it the Antigrams.

  •  Little Big winner: Albany Symphony Orchestra! (3+ / 0-)
    The ASO was awarded best classical instrumental solo for its recording of composer John Corigliano's "Conjurer — Concerto For Percussionist & String Orchestra," released on Naxos and recorded in the Troy Savings Bank Music Hall.  This 36-minute percussion concerto was conducted by David Alan Miller, a Delmar resident and music director for the ASO since 1992.

    While many Albany Times-Unionn classic works, the ASO plays and records pieces that have never been made available before. "We focus on the best living American composers," said Miller. "We give voice to their beautiful music that would otherwise never be heard by a broad audience."

    The ASO is small, often struggles for funds and is composed of part-time musicians. That puts it in stark contrast with some of the competition it faced in its Grammy category, including the New York Philharmonic.

    Albany Times-Union

    Dame Evelyn Glennie, the great percussionist, was the soloist.

    The ASO has been punching above its weight for some years now; under conductor David Alan Miller their technique and musicianship progressively improved.  I heard them this month play the Brahms 2d Piano Concerto with Andre Watts, and they sounded like a big-league orchestra

    There's no such thing as a free market!

    by Albanius on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 10:20:10 PM PST

  •  It was sad to see Willie, Chris Krisstofferson, (3+ / 0-)

    and that Blake guy singing along with Merle Haggard doing that "Okie from Muskogee" song.  Okie from Muskogee was adopted by Nixon and his people as the anthem of the "Silent Majority" which Merle played along with for years, making the bucks while those "hippies" got bashed to its words and notes.  

    Okie from Muskogee was the theme song of everything that was wrong with this country at the time...hubris, bullying, pig headed ignorance and fear, and just plain failure to accept or tolerate anything that was different.  It was sad to hear it sung in a nostalgic way since I place it as one of the most hateful songs every written.

    And it feels like I'm livin'in the wasteland of the free ~ Iris DeMent, 1996

    by MrJersey on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 10:50:36 PM PST

  •  every year (2+ / 0-)
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    the Grammy Show becomes less about songs and more about looks. And those who post here about looks are the reason why. Hey, as long as her boobs are half out and she wears odd lipstick, then we'll talk about that, hey? Note that daft punk doesn't play an instrument, they manipulate samples and that passes for songwriting.

    I think Harry Connick Jr. nailed it when he, on American Idol, was critiquing a contestant about over use of pentatonics in her singing, aka "urban yodeling". And J- Lo looked at him like he was talking Chinese, even when Harry tried to explain it to her.

    "Whenever the people are well-informed, they can be trusted with their own government" T. Jefferson

    by azureblue on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 11:13:50 PM PST

  •  freezing cold in that hotel (1+ / 0-)
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    To those who think the old school is running things, I had no idea who Daft Punk was. I just don't pay attention to that stuff but it usually filters down. Carson Daly is my canary, giving me a heads-up on what;s happening. For my druthers, I could listen to Metric or Lady Gaga all day. The performance at the Grammys that knocked me out was Metallica with that classical pianist. Infreakingcredible. Too bad about the ending rock fest cut off. It's called closing time.

  •  I was a NARAS member (2+ / 0-)
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    Carol in San Antonio, 3rock

    for one year.  It was the year Hootie and the Blowfish were nominated, along with a host of other now-forgotten mediocrities, and I decided there were better ways to waste $500/year.  

    Shirley Chisholm was right. Our Republic is in deep trouble.

    by Big River Bandido on Tue Jan 28, 2014 at 04:17:48 AM PST

  •  Just a little correction, Macklemore and Ryan (2+ / 0-)
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    Lewis won for their album "The Heist". The first popular single off that album last year was "Thrift Shop".

    I think it's significant to remember that they made "The Heist" without a label. I'm getting old but my kids are younger so I listened to Macklemore and RL a lot this year and I like their songs. They are a lot more positive and socially redeeming than a lot of the music aimed at young people.

    I'm glad Lorde won too.

    Daft Punk and their song "Get Lucky" don't do anything for me but when it 's with the Soul Train line it's not too bad.

  •  As a huge music nut (1+ / 0-)
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    I've always felt short-changed by the Grammy's general crapulence compared to the Oscars.

    I know most film buffs would say they are equivalent but really they aren't.  The Oscars does seem to make a conscious effort to reward the highest quality of the mainstream - it doesn't always succeed and personal taste is subjective, but usually when you see those top five films, directors, actors/tresses, etc... it is fairly consistent with the better quality films that enjoyed wide mainstream success.

    The Grammys on the other hand favors sales and name recognition above all, and when they do get it right it's many years too late (Daft Punk).  The Oscars would never have, for example, 5-6 summer blockbuster movies up for best picture.

    The Oscars provides some room for foreign films, challenging films, shorts, etc...etc...   The Grammies provides nothing comparable.

    Basically what I am saying is that I never expect the Grammies to sync up with what is actually exciting, cutting edge and interesting in music right now - and good pop music, and good old people music/reissues does deserve recognition and rewards, but frankly they need to hire the Republicans to purge their voter rolls and replace them with the right kind of voters, or at least have different pools for different categories and have those pools feed up to the big awards - i.e. weight the pools towards younger music journalists who do actually beat the bushes and listen to everything that comes out and have well-formed and relevant opinions on current movements.

    If it was at least as credible as the Oscars I would be a constant viewer, its funny, I don't pay attention to film most of the year than watch the Oscars, I pay a lot of attention to music and never watch the Grammys.

  •  Anyway (0+ / 0-)

      Thank You for this diary. It seems to me most think some fine tuning would be nice.
       Hope you post another next year. We'll compare.
       Still sending LOVE to Yoko Ono, as always, forever.
       I'm 63, I remember the fun of the Beatles and their mind expanding intelligence. Space ships still beepin...

    March AGAINST monsatanOHagentorange 3/25/13 a time warp

    by 3rock on Tue Jan 28, 2014 at 11:36:12 AM PST

  •  I don't watch, mostly don't care. (0+ / 0-)

    One of my core beliefs is that music is both an expression of the soul and a window into someone else's.

    I codify this as

    music is a language that we may not understand, but we can appreciate its character and nuance.
    That is all.

    May peace and happiness stay with you.

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